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Add PDF Directly as a Note

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Upvoted, I would ALSO love to see a PDF/Adobe Add-In! :)

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Two requests for PDFs and Adobe Acrobat Files:

  1. I would love to see an Adobe Acrobat (PDF) add in so I can clip Acrobat files/PDFs as notes.
  2. Additionally, and similarly, I would like to have a way to attach a PDF as a note (as requested here as well: Piggy-Backing)- 

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On August 29, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Kiefer said:

I'd really like an option to just add a PDF as a note rather than as an attachment on the note. It's pretty trivial, but when I'm saving something that's just a PDF (like sheet music for example) it's a little inconvenient to have to open the note and then click the attachment. 

It's already implemented on the Mac platform.  We have the option of viewing pdfs inline or as attachments.

I upvoted to have this feature added to the other platforms

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On August 30, 2016 at 7:17 AM, HEH said:

Two requests for PDFs and Adobe Acrobat Files:

  1. I would love to see an Adobe Acrobat (PDF) add in so I can clip Acrobat files/PDFs as notes.
  2. Additionally, and similarly, I would like to have a way to attach a PDF as a note (as requested here as well: Piggy-Backing)- 

I upvoted

On the Mac platform, we have Evernote Helper, a separate app that allows for screen clips, also several options for pdf conversion 

Macs also have the option of viewing pdfs inline or as attachments

Currently on my iPad, I do a photo screen capture, then crop > pdf > EN via the Workflow utility

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Yes please! Even in the Mac version it could be better: Just make the inline-view of a PDF that is the whole content of a note window-filling.

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Not sure what the issue is -- a PDF file is *always* going to be a part of a note in Evernote: PDF doesn't match the Evernote note format, so it needs to be wrapped up in at least minimal ENML markup (you can't add Evernote tags to a PDF file, for example). And that means that you can add other, non-PDF content to the note, and that a PDF will always be an attachment. Second, the Windows client allows you to view PDF files as "attachments" or as single page display. Could the display be better? Sure: on Windows they use a third-party library to do display (and I guess) annotation; on MacOS PDF support is native.

Oh, and one more thing: in Evernote for WIndows, you can right-click on a note in the note list, and select "Save attachments...".

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I can only assume that the original feature request is not regarding either the Windows or the Mac OS applications.  In the Windows application, you can unselect under Tools -> Options -> Notes (in Note Viewing Options) -> unselect "Always show PDF documents as attachments".  With this option unselected all PDF attachments are rendered as viewable documents with their own hover over page navigation tool.

I realize that I am just expanding on something mentioned in jefito's previous comment, regarding the option in the Windows application.

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On 8/30/2016 at 6:12 AM, Kiefer said:

I'd really like an option to just add a PDF as a note rather than as an attachment on the note. It's pretty trivial, but when I'm saving something that's just a PDF (like sheet music for example) it's a little inconvenient to have to open the note and then click the attachment. 

Thanks!

"a note rather than as an attachment on the note" -- This is perfect! the iOS pdf situation is just weird. Seriously. Having this random little rounded rectangle taking up 1/3 of the note width. On Mac, it's common to accidentally  select the entire PDF and sometimes delete it by mistake, or even drag it causing the need for a re-sync of the note. 

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On 8/30/2016 at 6:12 AM, Kiefer said:

I'd really like an option to just add a PDF as a note rather than as an attachment on the note. It's pretty trivial, but when I'm saving something that's just a PDF (like sheet music for example) it's a little inconvenient to have to open the note and then click the attachment. 

Thanks!

It's really a great idea and a must (other similar application does have the feature).

Despite the fact that, in the Windows application, you can unselect under Tools -> Options -> Notes (in Note Viewing Options) -> unselect "Always show PDF documents as attachments",  this is not available on portable device (smart phone and tablet).

Thanks to take that request in account

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I would also like to see this as an option. The only way at present to have a pdf embedded in the note rather than as a file attachment is to use the desktop application it seems. All the notes I previously created in Mac os all preview. Anything I add on Android, iOS or the web just show a horrible grey attachment icon. Please fix this, it is ruining my workflow.

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Another upvote for this in the Web interface and indeed all interfaces -i t's so frustrating to have something available on you tablet, but not the web and I don't remember when I last used a desktop app other than Photoshop or a Browser!

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Maybe I don't understand what's going on here, and if so, I apologize for wasting your time. I import PDF files directly into Evernote Desktop for Windows by going to File Explorer>finding the PDF>right clicking on the PDF file>hovering over "Send To">clicking on Evernote. They are then saved into whatever notebook I have selected in Evernote Desktop.

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15 hours ago, 49erNut said:

Maybe I don't understand what's going on here, and if so, I apologize for wasting your time. I import PDF files directly into Evernote Desktop for Windows by going to File Explorer>finding the PDF>right clicking on the PDF file>hovering over "Send To">clicking on Evernote. They are then saved into whatever notebook I have selected in Evernote Desktop.

This one has less to do with adding the PDF to a note (with today's desktop you can just drag a PDF into EN) and more to do with the viewing of the PDF, or devolved to it if not the OP's intent.  On the desktop when you access the note the PDF is visible assuming you have not checked Always show PDF documents as attachments.  Not so much on mobile devices, you get an icon which you have to press.  Folks would just as soon not press the icon.  Me included.

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The behavior on the mobile devices is driven by the fact that it only downloads the attachment when it is clicked.

This is not logical in cases when the content belongs to an offline notebook, But even then, as long as there is an internet connection, it downloads the attachment freshly from the server. And this prohibits to show the attachments content prior to downloading it.

Where I disagree: It would not be simple  to use the pdf instead of a note. The note contains a lot of  invisible information, that is used for server  purposes. This information can not be saved in a pdf, and it would on top of  that mean the pdf would permanently be altered - which is against the idea that the attachment should be isolated  against the working of the machine handling it.

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33 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

The behavior on the mobile devices is driven by the fact that it only downloads the attachment when it is clicked.

This is not logical in cases when the content belongs to an offline notebook

With my iPad, flipping through my offline notebooks,  I find all pdfs available

Regardless, as per @CalS, this discussion relates to the inline/attachment display of pdfs 

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My comment is related to the one from CalS, and why desktops (with their local database) show the pdf as a Full preview (from the local copy), the mobiles don’t. 

Sure the offline notebooks contain all information, but as long as there is an Internet connection, the mobile client will not draw anything from the offline data. It will always by default go to the server and download from there when a note is opened, and the attachment clicked.

It falls back to offline only when there is no internet connection. But even then, it will not show a preview of a pdf attachment.

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6 hours ago, CalS said:

Folks would just as soon not press the icon.  Me included.

I'd like the same inline/attachment option I have on my Mac for each individual  pdf    
The setting should be preserved for when the note is revisited

I suspect at one time the mobile platforms lacked the power for inline pdf display.      
I don't think this applies today.  Certainly the delayed  download prevents inline display

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1 hour ago, PinkElephant said:

The behavior on the mobile devices is driven by the fact that it only downloads the attachment when it is clicked.

May be semantics, but to me the behavior is driven by an EN decision to not automatically download PDFs when a note is accessed on an IOS device.  Could have been done either way, they opted to force the download, maybe a bandwidth decision.  Per @DTLow above an option would be great.

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Probably the whole issue is performance driven:

If it would look up whether an offline copy exists, each „call“ in the program would need to ask „if there is a local notebook, then .... else ...“ first before doing anything else. This would eat into response time. So I understand why they only start to look for local, offline data when there is no internet connection. This is then the LAST option to be called before saying „oops, currently out of service“. And then, response time is not important any longer.

 But thinking and designing like this goes back into the early ages of mobile devices. If I look at my iPad Pro, it feels like putting horses up in front, and pull my Porsche out of the garage to take it to the road. And on the engine button someone has printed „Do not push“. The data is there, like on a Desktop, but it is for the most time not used by the app itself.

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28 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Probably the whole issue is performance driven:

If it would look up whether an offline copy exists, each „call“ in the program would need to ask „if there is a local notebook, then .... else ...“ first before doing anything else. This would eat into response time. So I understand why they only start to look for local, offline data when there is no internet connection. This is then the LAST option to be called before saying „oops, currently out of service“. And then, response time is not important any longer.

Who knows, note currency needs to be checked whatever the case so maybe the bandwidth to download the PDF was a concern, which fits early days as well.

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Yes, I think it actually does check, because it builds the icons with a little delay. But this can be done by comparing a date, or a hash, so it should use only little bandwidth. I think the main issue is all the metadata hidden in the note itself.

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