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I LOVE evernote... can't live without it... but as I start to use it for more than just scans and clippings.... I have the WORST time with formatting in Evernote... it's absurd... it's the type of stuff I expect in cheapo, immature app... but evernote in pretty much all other ways seems extremely mature... so I don't understand why such simple things dont work well...

Example

Right now I am making a checklist note... (It's a labor hospital bag checklist)... been working on it for a few months... adding things as we think of it... I have a couple sections... each with a new list of checkboxes... randomly... my note... or parts of it get all messed up... like there will be new lines between checkbox and text, so it goes

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

etc

I put the cursor AFTER the check box and hit DELETE (NOT BACKSPACE) and it deletes the check box... 

OK... that SHOULD work... but it doesn't... whatever... not a huge deal... i'll just try another way... so instead I try putting the cursor at the start of a text line and hit BACKSPACE... it deletes the line break AND the check box... groan...

Forget it... I'll just delete all the check boxes and start over... so I delete all the check boxes... I just have a list of items one per line... highlight them all and click the check box button... and I'm back where I started... 

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

etc

At this point I'm getting pretty annoyed... If this was an isolated incident I would not care... but stuff like this seems to be the norm... I have had SO MUCH TROUBLE with this note over the past few months... I don't know if it has anything to do with editing on my android phone app sometimes or not... but even so, the various apps should be compatible!!

Other problems include pasting stuff from other sources and the text being ridiculously large, or other various problems with line breaks from pasted text. 

Am I the only one?  At first I just let it go and figure it's bugs that will get worked out... but I have been using the app for years now and it still sucks at this... and this one note, which I have been working on adding things here and there for months has pushed me over the edge... so curious if others have problems, and if so any way to fix this?  And/or are the bug fixes in the works for this stuff?

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Hi.  I can understand your frustration,  but due respect - once it starts to be annoying,  just stop banging your head!  Quite a few of us (I think) use Workflowy for outlines and lists because it does that really well,  is available from any browser and can be copied and pasted into Evernote if/ when required.  Evernote is improving its editor software,  but it still has a ways to go to get something that will work in any support OS on every supported device.  I'm grateful for the stuff it does well - for everything else there's workarounds...

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Lol :-) Yea... banging my head on a wall was getting tiring which landed me here looking for advice.  Thanks for the tip!  Workflowy looks pretty snazzy, I might have to give it a try... I do hope evernote gets their act together though... (or there are perhaps some tips/workarounds I can use in the meantime)... I do like having evernote has my universal reference material app.  One search box for everything.  I suppose until then though I may have to add workflowy as another app to organize my life.  

Question about workflowy... I see I can hover and click complete... but can I get checkboxs for easy one tap completion on my phone?  Part of what I want with this labor bag list is to be able to easy check things off as I pack last minute items.... 

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On 1/26/2016 at 8:54 PM, Glyph said:

I LOVE evernote... can't live without it... but as I start to use it for more than just scans and clippings.... I have the WORST time with formatting in Evernote... it's absurd... it's the type of stuff I expect in cheapo, immature app... but evernote in pretty much all other ways seems extremely mature... so I don't understand why such simple things dont work well...

What versions of OS and Evernote are you running?

EN Win seems to be having more issues with this than EN Mac.  I'm running EN Mac 6.4 on Yosemite (10.10.5), and rarely have formatting issues like this.

Evernote is in the process of developing and rolling out a new common editor.  You might voice your issues in one of these threads:

 

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Thanks!  I'm on windows.  I guess that might be part of my problem... I commented on the Evernote Windows thread to point them here to read about my problems if they want. 

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11 hours ago, Glyph said:

Thanks!  I'm on windows.  I guess that might be part of my problem... I commented on the Evernote Windows thread to point them here to read about my problems if they want. 

HI

I would like to help with the formatting issues you currently having with Windows.  Can you give me some details on the windows problems you are seeing?, so I can help our and/or take up the issues with Dev & Design to improve the experience.

If you don't wish to share all the issues here, my direct email is "J Miller at Evernote Dot Com" <-making it confusing for any bots skimming for email addresses 

If you email please mention this posting in the subject, so I can find your remail faster. 

J

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Hey - thanks!  First - while I have your attention... Evernote is great, except for these formatting issues and one other non-related thing... The glaring and absurdly missing feature.... encrypted notebooks!  I want the ability to encrypt a whole notebook so I can put sensitive notes there and have them protected from other eyes but still have them sync.  I'd prefer this feature be implemented, so that I have option (per notebook) to either require password each time I see notebook (i.e. protect it from you/cloud and from other people on my own PC), or to only require the password the first time I open the notebook on a new PC, so that it's really just to protect it from you/cloud. (i.e. others on my PC could see it... but I don't have to futz around with entering a password everytime I want to see it... but you (evernote) still have zero knowledge)  I see no reason this feature should not be implemented.  If you offer local notebooks and encrypting parts of notes... you should offer encrypted notebooks... they would be like local notebooks except they sync! and I don't have to worry about backing up in case my PC crashes. 

OK - with that out of the way...

So, the issue described in OP is the main one I am having now. (quoted below)  I described that one in detail.  Other problems I don't recall the details I just know the often involve pasting stuff from other sources and the text being ridiculously large, or formatted strange... editing causes strange results...  or other various problems with line breaks from pasted text. 

It reminds me of some web page wiki rich text editors... where it seems like the underlying html is not being edited in an intelligent way.  Resulting in strange spans or font tags, etc.  

One thing I will say regarding my original problem is that I was poking around and found the "simplify formatting" option.  performing this caused the issue described below to go away.  Since then I have not pasted anything.  (I mostly use evernote for page scans from scansnap, and web clippings using chrome addon... I actually don't do much manual pasting/editing... which means that the issues i have are far and few between... but it seems like a large percentage of manually manipulated notes) But the next time I do and have an issue, I will try the simplify formatting again... perhaps that will help me.  (Might be nice to have that as a button just like bold/italics/strike through, etc for one click mouse access)

In any case - I will post back here (or wherever you like) to describe issues in detail as they come up... or actually I use Jing/screencast a lot so I could even post a video link showing the issue in action.  My reports may be few and far between though because I don't do manual editing much, but I am happy to report if you tell me the best place. 

Thanks again. 

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Right now I am making a checklist note... (It's a labor hospital bag checklist)... been working on it for a few months... adding things as we think of it... I have a couple sections... each with a new list of checkboxes... randomly... my note... or parts of it get all messed up... like there will be new lines between checkbox and text, so it goes

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

etc

I put the cursor AFTER the check box and hit DELETE (NOT BACKSPACE) and it deletes the check box... 

OK... that SHOULD work... but it doesn't... whatever... not a huge deal... i'll just try another way... so instead I try putting the cursor at the start of a text line and hit BACKSPACE... it deletes the line break AND the check box... groan...

Forget it... I'll just delete all the check boxes and start over... so I delete all the check boxes... I just have a list of items one per line... highlight them all and click the check box button... and I'm back where I started... 

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

line with checkbox and no text

line with text

etc

At this point I'm getting pretty annoyed... If this was an isolated incident I would not care... but stuff like this seems to be the norm... I have had SO MUCH TROUBLE with this note over the past few months... I don't know if it has anything to do with editing on my android phone app sometimes or not... but even so, the various apps should be compatible!!

 

 

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I just found a new issue... this one is very minor... not really the type of thing I would call "buggy"... this is more just "not polished"... but since we are on the subject and it just happened I figured I would share...

When there is a long text next to a checkbox the wrapping text should start where the previous line above starts... instead if starts where the checkbox starts... this looks ugly.  (It looks like your bullet and numbered lists do this correctly... but not the checkboxes.)

 

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Hi  

I filed tracking tickets with Dev for these issues - the first (the delete key & backspace key) is our behavior vs what many other apps, thus is the "expected" behavior.  The second issue is are bad handling of world wrapping.  

As for your question, I now get all replies to this thread in my email, so I will any future things you are others post on the subject.  Please keep reporting things. 

 

J

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So you expect the delete key and backspace key to work this way (animated gif done while in google Docs) 

First time was the delete key (then hit undo) and then the backspace key

J

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I'm not totally sure if that last post was a question or a statement... :-)  In any case - just to make sure it's totally clear what was happening I made a quick 1 minute video to show what was happening. 

http://screencast.com/t/XDkWH9SeUH

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6 hours ago, Jason Miller said:

I would like to help with the formatting issues you currently having with Windows.

@Jason Miller, I'd just like to say thanks for offering this great customer support.  It is very good to see you in these forums.  I hope this is an example of the level of support Evernote will continue to offer in the future.

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Agree with poster, I am patiently waiting for note editing to be improved.  Many times I will try to use Evernote during a meeting but always end up spending too much time adjusting formatting issues. Seeing the recommendation to use workflowy and copy/pasting  notes, I searched for out liners that integrate with Evernote and found Xwavessoft Cound Outliner (IPad and Mac only).   Downloaded and works awesome.  Syncs all outlines and notes perfectly with Evernote.   Will use the IPad version and may end up buy the Mac version.  For iPad users I would check it out. 

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1 hour ago, DvcRob said:

I searched for out liners that integrate with Evernote and found Xwavessoft Cound Outliner (IPad and Mac only).   Downloaded and works awesome

I had a hard time finding this product.  For those interested, see:
Cloud Outliner 2 Pro for Mac

It looks cool, but can't tell for sure with just the screenshot.  Need video and trial version.

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13 hours ago, DvcRob said:

Agree with poster, I am patiently waiting for note editing to be improved.  Many times I will try to use Evernote during a meeting but always end up spending too much time adjusting formatting issues. Seeing the recommendation to use workflowy and copy/pasting  notes, I searched for out liners that integrate with Evernote and found Xwavessoft Cound Outliner (IPad and Mac only).   Downloaded and works awesome.  Syncs all outlines and notes perfectly with Evernote.   Will use the IPad version and may end up buy the Mac version.  For iPad users I would check it out. 

Thanks for the recommendation, I will take a look

In addition to not being able to create the type of outlines you want in Evernote.  What other features or improvements would you like to see in Evernote note editing?

 

J

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1 hour ago, Jason Miller said:

What other features or improvements would you like to see in Evernote...

Apologies to be redundant... but I realized you never actually acknowledged my other feature suggestion above... and since this thread has your attention I want to make 100% sure you saw it since it was amidst my huge post...

ENCRYPTED NOTEBOOKS... 

I quite literally have on my RTM list every 6 months to look for Evernote competitors who might offer this along with a good enough set of features that I can abandon Evernote for a product that makes it easier to both have privacy when needed, and cloud convenience.  Your only options for privacy are local notebooks (no cloud backup) or encrypting bits of text I must type a password every time I want to see (Onerous) and I can't encrypt attachments or photos, so no could backup/sync for those if they need to stay private. 

I need to be able to just create notes in a protected/encrypted notebook.  Evernote/you have zero knowledge.  Yet I can access them freely and without password on my own PC/phone if I so choose. (of course I know I would need to enter the password once... I just mean not every time... unless I choose that)

See previous post for more details about how I think it should be done.  

Please.... please... tell me this feature is on the roadmap... Fix that and note formatting, and you probably have me locked in for life... 

 

 

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Sorry about that, it was actually the first thing I passed on to the Product Manager for Windows - who has happy to get the feedback and feature idea.  Thank you

 

J

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4 minutes ago, Glyph said:

ENCRYPTED NOTEBOOKS... 

Since we're going off topic.

My request would be less extensive.  Currently EN allows the encryption of text within a note.  This excludes attachments like pdfs and images.  I'm not happy with the extra work to complete my note encryption.

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Just now, Jason Miller said:

Sorry about that, it was actually the first thing I passed on to the Product Manager for Windows - who has happy to get the feedback and feature idea.  Thank you

 

J

Great - thanks!  I know this has been suggested in the past... what's the status?  Is it on the road-map?  Is it at least a planned feature?  Under serious consideration?  

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The Product Manager likes the idea.  It is added to the list of possible features, and will be taken to the team (since the new feature would have to be supported cross-platform to really work well within Evernote)

 

I don't know the timeline for evaluating the feature (must less actually doing it) - but it is out there for consideration at least.

 

J

 

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18 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

I'm sure that this does not go as far as you would like, but at least there is some progress on encryption.
See [EN] Security - Change in Encryption Process -- Rich Tener, head of EN Security 

Thanks... Good to know... I didn't even realize the whole not history issue... that's a HUGE glaring problem...

My main thing is this... I don't need to encrypt most text on my pc... I don't let people log into my windows profile... and if anyone who ever uses my PC might know how to get to files of a different user, it would be me... Basically... the people I want to protect my note from is the Cloud/evernote.    Which is why I want something completely different.  A notebook that remains unencrypted and fully searchable on my own PC... I can access with no password (except the first time when I login initially)... but that is encrypted before sending up to the cloud such that evernote employees could never access it.  

I know that

#1 this might mean no image text search because I think OCR is done in the cloud... I'm fine with that.

#2 Some people DO want the notes to be stored encrypted locally, which is why I recommend 2 types of encrypted notebooks.  Fully encrypted. (requires password every time you want to open the notebook) and cloud encrypted... works like any other notebook in your local PC app, but is encrypted such that evernote (the company) could never read the note on their servers. (Much like how my lastpass works... I leave it unlocked on my personal PC profile that I never let anyone use... so I can early search and use it... but lastpass the company still has zero knowledge) 

 

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Picking back up on this thread-- I have experienced really frustrating formatting issues with Evernote. Randomly, if I am typing in italics or bold, if I cross a certain word threshold the formatting starts to go wonky-- it will take off the italics or bold on the entire section or portions of my text. It seems related to word count, but sometimes if I go back and undo/redo it a few times, the formatting sticks. This also happens if I select text and then apply italics/bold (not just typing in italics/bold).

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Hi

Sorry you are running into this, there is a bug filed on this issue.  Currently I don't have an ETA on when it will be fixed.  I will chat with the PM about getting the priority raised higher.

 

J

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On 4/10/2016 at 11:17 AM, RGJ said:

Picking back up on this thread-- I have experienced really frustrating formatting issues with Evernote. Randomly, if I am typing in italics or bold, if I cross a certain word threshold the formatting starts to go wonky-- it will take off the italics or bold on the entire section or portions of my text. It seems related to word count, but sometimes if I go back and undo/redo it a few times, the formatting sticks. This also happens if I select text and then apply italics/bold (not just typing in italics/bold).

One thing I didn't realize that helped me was "simplify formatting".  If you right click in a note you should see the option... I think it tells the shortcut too... it ctrl+space for simplify formatting and ctrl+shift+space to remove formatting... If you don't need any formatting the latter is great... if yuo want to keep some formatting, but are having issues after pasting from web or something like that the simplify formatting can be a life saver... it's a bit of a hacky work around... but I have found it helpful until evernote gets it's editor in gear. 

 

 

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Hi, 
I use Evernote as a work journal where each day is separated by a horizontal line and comprises a nested bulletted list.
For the last few months, I have been experiencing some frustrating automatic reformatting behaviour when I go back to a note: 
  1. Within bullet points I often use shift-Return to start a new line without creating a new bullet point. A few days later and all these new lines have lost their indentation and now start on the left edge.
  2. On one of my notes, all the horizontal lines got mysteriously replaced by bullet points.
  3. Sometimes I'm unable to use the delete or backspace keys between bullet points.
Also, a great new feature would be the ability to create anchors, so that one can link to a specific place in a note.
 
I'm using the Evernote app 6.0.6.1769 (Public 301769) on Windows 7 Professional (and v7.8.2 on my Android phone).
 
Cheers.

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On May 31, 2016 at 8:01 AM, free-the-tree said:
I use Evernote as a work journal where each day is separated by a horizontal line and comprises a nested bulletted list.
For the last few months, I have been experiencing some frustrating automatic reformatting behaviour when I go back to a note: 

My approach has been a separate note for each day.

I use a template to get started

I try to avoid lengthy notes like your journal process.

I also archive my notes in PDF format - it seems better protection against corruption.

A disadvantage to my process is that I can't scroll down to see entries from previous days.

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When pasting into Evernote use Ctrl + Shift + V to paste without formatting. This will solve the problem you stated. I will also use the default font and formatting allowing you to layout your document as you would like.

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17 hours ago, DTLow said:

My approach has been a separate note for each day.

I use a template to get started

I try to avoid lengthy notes like your journal process.

I also archive my notes in PDF format - it seems better protection against corruption.

A disadvantage to my process is that I can't scroll down to see entries from previous days.

Thanks, for the advice, Guru. 

I like to keep the days together in a month as, like you say, it's easier to scroll to previous days. But mainly, if I do a search, I feel I can find things more easily without opening multiple notes. I'll experiment with it though and see if it makes things easier.

I'll also give templates and PDF archiving a try too.

Cheers.

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In the latest version of the Android app, the Undo-function had been moved into the editing menu. This is really inconvenient and annoying. Please bring it back to the "front page" so I can reach it easily even I make a mistake. 

 

Also, from the latest version pasted text changes font size between cut and paste. If I cut a sentence from the end of a paragraph and paste it into the middle of the same paragraph the inserted text changes to a smaller font. Is this related to Evernote or my keyboard app, Swype? 

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My biggest issue with Evernote is transferring what I've written in a note into a new wordpress post I'm creating. The formatting comes out nothing like I had it in Evernote. There are paragraphs where there were no paragraphs. There are hyphens where there were no hyphens. Sometimes there are no paragraphs where there were paragraphs. I mean, for as amazing as Evernote is, I think this is a horrible issue. I would really love to see you guys fix this issue. Please. Because I love Evernote and don't want to use anything else, but this is becoming a pain in my ass. I have to reformat the document every time using word or pages. Delete everything I originally posted in my wordpress post as to get rid of whatever buggy code is now in the document due to Evernote formatting, and then paste everything from Word/Pages back into the new wordpress post. 

Ugh.

I've attached an example. You can see where there are paragraphs and hyphens, and those weren't there originally when I wrote it. 

PS... Hope you don't mind the writing ;-)

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Hi Kurshot

Sorry for the formatting problems.  How is the information being posted from EN to wordpress - emailed?  Autoposting using an IFTTT recipe? or cut and paste from EN to Wordpress?

And I am guessing you are using the latest version of EN Mac  (I could be wrong) which currently has CE 1.0.x which will be updated in the near future to CE 1.5 which will help with some of the formatting issues.

 

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Copy and paste from EN to Wordpress. And I'm running the latest OSX and latest EN update.

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21 hours ago, Jason Miller said:

CE 1.0.x which will be updated in the near future to CE 1.5

What is "CE"?

I did a google, but no help.

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22 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

What is "CE"?

I did a google, but no help.

Sorry lazy Acronym, it is the new Common Editor for Evernote.

 

 

 

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On August 3, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Kurshot said:

Copy and paste from EN to Wordpress. And I'm running the latest OSX and latest EN update.

Doesn't help much, but I was able to Copy from EN Mac to WP (inside Safari) without a problem, I did get some word wrapping issues after posting, but it might be related to my WP Theme.  So I might be missing a step

 

Running EN Mac latest on 10.11.5

Image 1 - Text in EN.png

Image 2 - Test in WP Editor.png

Image 3 - Published Text.png

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 What other features or improvements would you like to see in Evernote note editing?

for evernote windows:
- a source code button. 
- a reset  formatting button (really working..)
- simple heading formatting (h1 to h6)
- table formatting (spacing, padding..)
- custom color for highlight  (or just use another color ... because yellow is the same of the search results and this is really confusing)

 

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On August 12, 2016 at 7:13 PM, xaa said:

for evernote windows:
- a source code button. 
- a reset  formatting button (really working..)
- simple heading formatting (h1 to h6)
- table formatting (spacing, padding..)
- custom color for highlight  (or just use another color ... because yellow is the same of the search results and this is really confusing)

 

Thanks for the feedback, I shared the suggestions with our Product Manager - some of these features are in the works.  Currently I don't have a time frame or release schedule.

 

J

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Jason,

1st thanks for your involvement in a forum and being the go between us and support / dev

"So, the issue described in OP is the main one I am having now. (quoted below)  I described that one in detail.  Other problems I don't recall the details I just know the often involve pasting stuff from other sources and the text being ridiculously large, or formatted strange... editing causes strange results...  or other various problems with line breaks from pasted text. "

this is my big problem.  As all have said, love scan, email, clip in.  But cut and paste - frustrating.

while don't expect miracles, this thread has been going on since Jan and it is now Sep and what seems simple to implement isn't 

  1. even the editor for this form seems to have more features than evernote
  2. mentioned it think (show code) - would love to see something as simple as in word - button - show format on/off (then at least we could see what was causing the problem)
  3. this editor (forum) doesn't cap 1st word after . Or new line (example is not cap at start of my paras
  4. sorry lets stick to EN (and maybe somewhat random and I am typing quick here) - just get the basics right - maintain list numbering, 
  5. i actually googled "Evernote text format in note" and this topic / forum came up 1st. So be it iPad or win or make, I don't want to have to add an app to do basic editing., and I use iOS, Mac and win platforms and understand differences in key struck and commands, but delete is delete and backspace is backspace, new line is just that, and if I want parra I add back to back new line, not have space line inserted.  Sorry a bit disjointed but caught off guard that my search hey a source of reporting that is exactly what was looking for 
  6. went to test formatting & clear on my iPad (am out at moment) and no size / font change on iPad editor bR in EN - bug, operator error or IOS issue?

again, sorry if disjointed. Will bookmark this note and revisit when time & at Windows.

Thanks

Larry

2016SP11 11:00 Sydney

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2 hours ago, Larry_C said:

what seems simple to implement isn't

Uh yeah. If it actually were simple, rather than just seeming to be, they probably would have fixed it by now. But there's reality, and there's appearances. We all want better and more reliable formatting and editing. They do too. They're working on it. 

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Thought I'd add to the fray with some simply live examples.

 
  1. Test of numbers list
  2. Test of numbers list
 
  • Test of bulleted list
 
Result of "remove formating" on above -
 
- Test of numbers list
- Test of numbers list
 
- Test of bulleted list
 
[if remove is remove, why are the dashes still in ?  To reverse remove formatting I should be able to apply formatting and get the same - nope (notice "-" still in !)
 
  1. - Test of numbers list
  2. - Test of numbers list
 
  • - Test of bulleted list
 
------ Start of insert of email
Numbers
Inbox
x
profile_mask2.png
L
4 Aug
cleardot.gif
 
cleardot.gif
cleardot.gif
to me
cleardot.gif
Hi L
 
numbers are as follows:
 
P               1
V       2
J         1
L           2
H          1
B           2
 
TOTAL 9
 
Thats how they stand at the moment.
 
See you Tuesday.
 
L
 
------ End of insert of email 
 
------ Start of insert of email (same as above but now "simplify formatting" applied)
Numbers
Inbox
x
profile_mask2.png
L
4 Aug
 
cleardot.gif
 
cleardot.gif
cleardot.gif
to mecleardot.gif
Hi L,
 
numbers are as follows:
 
P               1
V       2
J         1
L           2
H          1
B           2
 
TOTAL 9
 
Thats how they stand at the moment.
 
See you Tuesday.
 
L
 
------ End of insert of email (same as above but now "simplify formatting" applied)
 
NOW at least I can see that there appear to text in tables in the email, but if that's "simply" OK.
 
-------- Start if email with simply formating made "remove formatting"
Numbers
 
Inbox
 
x
 
L
 
4 Aug
 
to me
 
Hi L,
 
numbers are as follows:
 
P               1
V       2
J         1
L           2
H          1
B           2
 
TOTAL 9
 
Thats how they stand at the moment.
 
See you Tuesday.
 
L
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[Guess that's better.  More coming with a web clip.
 

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Now this may not be an editor issue, as it was web clipped as an article, but maybe Jason can comment / assist with this as well.

Note the overlap on the "Inside Premier status' list with the "Premier benefits chart".  Will try using "simplify article" or maybe "clearly"

Premier benefits and more

The more you fly, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status.

The more you fly, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status.

The more you fly United, United Express® and select MileagePlus partners, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status, which gives additional benefits to our most active members. These include bonus award miles, upgrades, priority travel services, fee waivers, discounts and benefits when traveling with Star AllianceTM member airlines.

Inside Premier® status

Premier benefits chart

 
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Economy Plus seating benefits1
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary access to Economy Plus At check-in At booking At booking At booking
Economy Plus companions 1 1 8 8
Upgrades
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary Premier Upgrades      
Complimentary Premier Upgrades companion upgrades        
Complimentary Premier Upgrades confirmation (as early as) Day of departure 48 hours 72 hours 96 hours
Instant upgrades on Y- or B-class full-fare economy tickets        
Instant upgrades on M-class economy tickets        
Regional Premier Upgrades eligibility        
Global Premier Upgrades eligibility        
Premier mileage bonuses2
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
500 PQM minimum accrual        
Award miles on United and United Express and select partner airlines (includes Premier bonus award miles) 7 × fare3 8 × fare3 9 × fare3 11 × fare3
Premier priority travel services, including Premier Access®4
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Priority check-in        
Priority security screening, where offered        
Priority boarding privileges        
Priority baggage handling        
Premier Priority Desk phone line       1K 1Call dedicated line
Access to most sold-out flights        
Lounge access when traveling internationally        
Discounts and waivers on service charges and fees
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary checked baggage allowance for economy tickets5 1 bag at 50 lbs. (23 kg) 2 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each5 3 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each 3 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each
Discounted or waived same-day flight changes        
Discounted United Club℠ membership rates        
Discounted or waived phone service charge        
10% discount on inflight Duty Free purchases        
Award travel benefits
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Priority award waitlisting        
Standby for international awards        
Unrestricted access to United Standard Awards on United- and United Express-operated flights        
Better availability for United Saver Awards in economy        
Better availability for United Saver Awards in select premium cabins        
Reduced or waived close-in award booking fee        
Reduced or waived award redeposit fee        
Reduced or waived award change fee        

Travel benefits on Star Alliance member airlines

Premier Silver members receive Star Alliance Silver benefits
Premier Gold, Premier Platinum and Premier 1K members receive Star Alliance Gold benefits

1Complimentary Economy Plus access is determined by the highest Premier status of the travelers on the reservation. Complimentary Economy Plus seating for travelers on award tickets that are issued or re-issued on or after April 15, 2015, is based on the traveler's status at booking for Premier Gold and above or at time of check-in for Premier Silver, rather than the status of the member whose miles were used to purchase the award ticket.

2United Airlines reserves the right to exclude certain flights, fares, tickets, routes, products and/or programs from earning MileagePlus award miles and/or Premier qualifying credits. Learn more about earning miles on United flights

3The fare is the base fare of the ticket plus carrier-imposed surcharges, excluding any government-imposed taxes and surcharges. For tickets purchased in a currency other than U.S. dollars, we will convert the purchase to U.S. dollars using an industry standard exchange rate and then calculate the number of miles you will earn. Please note that the price displayed when purchasing a ticket on united.com includes up to a 7.5% U.S. Federal Transportation Tax on the base amount of the fare on itineraries wholly within the United States. This tax also applies to certain itineraries between the United States and Canada or Mexico. You will not earn PQD or award miles for the full amount of the displayed price for these itineraries because the U.S. Federal Transportation tax is not eligible to earn PQD or miles.

4Customers who do not receive complimentary Premier Access may have the option to purchase Premier Access for a particular flight. A Premier Access purchase includes priority check-in, security lane access (where available) and boarding, but it does not include priority baggage handling.

5For United Economy® tickets issued or re-issued before February 1, 2015, Premier Gold members are eligible for three complimentary checked bags at 70 pounds (32 kg) each. For United Economy tickets issued or re-issued on or after February 1, 2015, Premier Gold members are eligible for two complimentary checked bags at 70 pounds (32 kg) each with the exception of travel to and from select international markets, where Premier Gold members are eligible for three complimentary checked bags at 70 pounds (32 kg) each. To determine specific checked baggage service charges, please use the Baggage Calculator.

MileagePlus rules:

The accrual of miles and Premier® qualifying credits, redemption of awards and provision of benefits through the United MileagePlus program, including the Premier Program, are subject to change and are subject to the rules of the MileagePlus program.

See the complete rules and details of the MileagePlus program

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This is the article using "simplified" article (same result as using "Clearly" - NOTE ALL of the INSIDE PREMIER status list is JUST NOT THERE!  What concerns me, is if we are not careful we might not notice a whole section of a page clipped didn't get included!!!


 

Premier benefits and more

The more you fly, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status.

The more you fly United, United Express® and select MileagePlus partners, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status, which gives additional benefits to our most active members. These include bonus award miles, upgrades, priority travel services, fee waivers, discounts and benefits when traveling with Star AllianceTM member airlines.

Inside Premier® status

Premier benefits chart

Premier benefits chart
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Premier benefits chart
Economy Plus seating benefits1
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary access to Economy Plus At check-in At booking At booking At booking
Economy Plus companions 1 1 8 8
Upgrades
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary Premier Upgrades      
Complimentary Premier Upgrades companion upgrades        
Complimentary Premier Upgrades confirmation (as early as) Day of departure 48 hours 72 hours 96 hours
Instant upgrades on Y- or B-class full-fare economy tickets        
Instant upgrades on M-class economy tickets        
Regional Premier Upgrades eligibility        
Global Premier Upgrades eligibility        
Upgrades
Premier mileage bonuses
Premier mileage bonuses2
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
500 PQM minimum accrual        
Award miles on United and United Express and select partner airlines (includes Premier bonus award miles) 7 × fare3 8 × fare3 9 × fare3 11 × fare3
Premier priority travel services, including Premier Access®
Premier priority travel services, including Premier Access®4
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Priority check-in        
Priority security screening, where offered        
Priority boarding privileges        
Priority baggage handling        
Premier Priority Desk phone line       1K 1Call dedicated line
Access to most sold-out flights        
Lounge access when traveling internationally        
Discounts and waivers on service charges and fees
Discounts and waivers on service charges and fees
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary checked baggage allowance for economy tickets5 1 bag at 50 lbs. (23 kg) 2 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each5 3 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each 3 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each
Discounted or waived same-day flight changes        
Discounted United Club℠ membership rates        
Discounted or waived phone service charge        
10% discount on inflight Duty Free purchases        
Award travel benefits
Award travel benefits
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Priority award waitlisting        
Standby for international awards        
Unrestricted access to United Standard Awards on United- and United Express-operated flights        
Better availability for United Saver Awards in economy        
Better availability for United Saver Awards in select premium cabins        
Reduced or waived close-in award booking fee        
Reduced or waived award redeposit fee        
Reduced or waived award change fee        

1Complimentary Economy Plus access is determined by the highest Premier status of the travelers on the reservation. Complimentary Economy Plus seating for travelers on award tickets that are issued or re-issued on or after April 15, 2015, is based on the traveler's status at booking for Premier Gold and above or at time of check-in for Premier Silver, rather than the status of the member whose miles were used to purchase the award ticket. Return to reference

2United Airlines reserves the right to exclude certain flights, fares, tickets, routes, products and/or programs from earning MileagePlus award miles and/or Premier qualifying credits. Learn more about earning miles on United flights Return to reference

3The fare is the base fare of the ticket plus carrier-imposed surcharges, excluding any government-imposed taxes and surcharges. For tickets purchased in a currency other than U.S. dollars, we will convert the purchase to U.S. dollars using an industry standard exchange rate and then calculate the number of miles you will earn. Please note that the price displayed when purchasing a ticket on united.com includes up to a 7.5% U.S. Federal Transportation Tax on the base amount of the fare on itineraries wholly within the United States. This tax also applies to certain itineraries between the United States and Canada or Mexico. You will not earn PQD or award miles for the full amount of the displayed price for these itineraries because the U.S. Federal Transportation tax is not eligible to earn PQD or miles. Return to reference

4Customers who do not receive complimentary Premier Access may have the option to purchase Premier Access for a particular flight. A Premier Access purchase includes priority check-in, security lane access (where available) and boarding, but it does not include priority baggage handling. Return to reference

5For United Economy® tickets issued or re-issued before February 1, 2015, Premier Gold members are eligible for three complimentary checked bags at 70 pounds (32 kg) each. For United Economy tickets issued or re-issued on or after February 1, 2015, Premier Gold members are eligible for two complimentary checked bags at 70 pounds (32 kg) each with the exception of travel to and from select international markets, where Premier Gold members are eligible for three complimentary checked bags at 70 pounds (32 kg) each. To determine specific checked baggage service charges, please use the Baggage Calculator. Return to reference

MileagePlus rules:

The accrual of miles and Premier® qualifying credits, redemption of awards and provision of benefits through the United MileagePlus program, including the Premier Program, are subject to change and are subject to the rules of the MileagePlus program.

See the complete rules and details of the MileagePlus program

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Hi everyone, I do not understand, why Evernote cannot simply give us the features that are already available.

My understanding is, that Evernote Web uses the editor TinyMCE (www.tinymce.com). And when I checked last time that editor comprised already all the features desired by people in this forum.

What I do not understand, but maybe someone from Evernote reading this can explain, why is Evernote using a version of TinyMCE that is 2 years old? At least the tinymce.js loaded in my Evernote declares itself as being version "4.1.0 (2014-06-18)".

 

 

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Engineering wise you can't just drop in a library, you have to wire it up to make it work - anyway even the web is moving away from TinyMCE it has limits that will impact future growth - other features are coming, though they need to have the same base library and editing experience across all platforms firsts

 

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On 9/12/2016 at 6:57 PM, Jason Miller said:

Engineering wise you can't just drop in a library, you have to wire it up to make it work

You're right, but Evernote is already using TinyMCE, hence there is no new wiring I guess.

On 9/12/2016 at 6:57 PM, Jason Miller said:

other features are coming, though they need to have the same base library and editing experience across all platforms firsts

The thing is, that I am using Evernote now, not in the distant future. And I am also paying for it right now, not in the distant future. So, when is this rewiring and library writing going to happen?

 

Recently, I found out that Evernote dropped one crucial (at least to me) feature: Pasting images from the clipboard directly into the web editor.

So far I did this all the time and it worked very well until the feature was dropped; suddenly it was gone. My bug report was first answered like this:

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I spoke with our development team about this issue and I'm afraid that pasting images from the clipboard is not currently supported on the Evernote Website. They have received and noted this ticket as a feature request, and will consider adding support for this at some point in the future.

After some back and forth emailing we arrived at this answer:

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After speaking with my Senior Advisors, they informed me that the ability to copy and paste images into Evernote Web was recently disabled when we identified inconsistencies with the way that various browsers support the copy and paste functionality. Since not all browsers handle copied and pasted images in the same way, we discovered that in some cases images were not saved to the note which resulted in the loss of the image. To prevent this type of loss, we disabled the paste functionality.

That is a full 180 going from "feature request" to "we disabled it on purpose". Honestly, I do not like it. I like Evernote and use it daily, but with regards to the web editor there seems to be no progress being made since a long time. After reading the forum and Evernote support's answers to my bug report, I get the feeling development to the web editor is on pause.

Dear Evernote support, when do we get a web editor that is on par with the rest of the internet?


 

 

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The Dropped feature (is turned off for now) until they can get a consistent user experience across all web clients - since non-Firefox folks were experiencing data loss - so I also had to switch to using the Desktop client.  I don't have an ETA on when that will be turned back on, however, it is near the top of the list of things to fix.

As for a web editor you want, that is currently being worked on and updates will be rolled out in the months ahead

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On September 11, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Larry_C said:

Now this may not be an editor issue, as it was web clipped as an article, but maybe Jason can comment / assist with this as well.

Note the overlap on the "Inside Premier status' list with the "Premier benefits chart".  Will try using "simplify article" or maybe "clearly"

Premier benefits and more

The more you fly, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status.

The more you fly, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status.

The more you fly United, United Express® and select MileagePlus partners, the sooner you'll achieve Premier status, which gives additional benefits to our most active members. These include bonus award miles, upgrades, priority travel services, fee waivers, discounts and benefits when traveling with Star AllianceTM member airlines.

Inside Premier® status

Premier benefits chart

 
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Economy Plus seating benefits1
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary access to Economy Plus At check-in At booking At booking At booking
Economy Plus companions 1 1 8 8
Upgrades
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary Premier Upgrades        
Complimentary Premier Upgrades companion upgrades        
Complimentary Premier Upgrades confirmation (as early as) Day of departure 48 hours 72 hours 96 hours
Instant upgrades on Y- or B-class full-fare economy tickets        
Instant upgrades on M-class economy tickets        
Regional Premier Upgrades eligibility        
Global Premier Upgrades eligibility        
Premier mileage bonuses2
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
500 PQM minimum accrual        
Award miles on United and United Express and select partner airlines (includes Premier bonus award miles) 7 × fare3 8 × fare3 9 × fare3 11 × fare3
Premier priority travel services, including Premier Access®4
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Priority check-in        
Priority security screening, where offered        
Priority boarding privileges        
Priority baggage handling        
Premier Priority Desk phone line       1K 1Call dedicated line
Access to most sold-out flights        
Lounge access when traveling internationally        
Discounts and waivers on service charges and fees
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Complimentary checked baggage allowance for economy tickets5 1 bag at 50 lbs. (23 kg) 2 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each5 3 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each 3 bags at 70 lbs. (32 kg) each
Discounted or waived same-day flight changes        
Discounted United Club℠ membership rates        
Discounted or waived phone service charge        
10% discount on inflight Duty Free purchases        
Award travel benefits
Benefit Premier Silver Premier Gold Premier Platinum Premier 1K®
Priority award waitlisting        
Standby for international awards        
Unrestricted access to United Standard Awards on United- and United Express-operated flights        
Better availability for United Saver Awards in economy