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Backupery

Backupery - backup Evernote data to your computer automatically

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Hello,

 

I am a co-founder of Backupery, we are making local backup software.

 

I am glad to present you Backupery for Evernote application. It is a lightweight application that makes automatic backup of Evernote notes to local hard drive.

 

Here are some highlights:

  • The application is very small (~700KB) and easy to use.
  • Backup is started by scheduler, so a user doesn't need to run it manually.
  • We don't send any bit of your data beyond your computer, so all your data belongs to you only, forever.
  • The software works without internet connection (it is essential if you are travelling, for example).
  • Since the app utilizes Evernote-standart export technology (ENEX), no third-party tools are required for restoring (Evernote client is enough).
  • Since we are using ENEX-export, the app backups local (unsynchronized) notebooks and unsynchronized notes.
You could read more and download the application here: http://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

 

It is for Windows only for now, but we are working on Mac version also.

 

Any questions, suggestions or ideas are highly appreciated, please let me know here, or use contact@backupery.com.

 

Best,

John

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Hi John.  I'm a little nervous about exports to Enex on a scheduled basis.  Export by default

  • might take a long time - a full export of my c.21,000 notes seemed to take forever the last time I tried
  • doesn't preserve a notebook structure
  • breaks note-to-note links
  • doesn't include any clues as to notebook hierarchy
  • restores as one potentially huge notebook that could break even premium upload limits
  • might be happening at the same time I'm editing a note - which version survives?  (If I'm managing an export of my own,  I'm -by definition- not doing anything else!)

Can you provide any more comment on these points?  I can still see that there are huge advantages to having a set it and forget it backup,  and I think it's a great idea to make it really simple for the majority of users out there who need to be convinced that backups are a Good Idea,  but a full restore might take a very long time to sort out...

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I have the same questing as Gazumped and

It seems that the default settings are every third hour.

With a huge database this will be hard

 

And make the users choose notebooks or stacks.

 

I have some notebooks like archive. To backup them every third hours is not necessary, not even once a week.

 

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Hi Gazumped and Morticia,
 
thank you very much for your feedback, I've taken everything into consideration. Here are my comments:
 
- might take a long time - a full export of my c.21,000 notes seemed to take forever the last time I tried

Export time depends on computer performance and each note size significantly. For example, we performed the test in our test lab for Evernote account with ~50.000 of notes, each note is about 5KB and it took ~1 minute only (Windows 8, Intel Core i7-4790, 3.60 GHz, 8GB RAM). Of course, we shouldn't treat this as a constant rule, but I am sure the export takes reasonable time. 

May I ask what is the size of your Evernote database? (If you on Windows, just open your Evernote client, then  Tools/Options/General tab shows you where your database is located. You can then view that folder in Explorer to get the folder size).

- doesn't preserve a notebook structure
- doesn't include any clues as to notebook hierarchy
- breaks note-to-note links
Yes, unfortunately it is a limitation of ENEX export of a whole Evernote database.
 
- restores as one potentially huge notebook that could break even premium upload limits

After restoring you could mark this notebook as local so it won't sync with Evernote servers, then select those notes that are should be synced and move them to notebooks that are synced with Evernote. Generally speaking, most backup solutions mean restoring large amounts of data in case of emergency. One of Backupery advantages is that all your backup data is stored locally, so you don't need to download it from clouds. 

 
- might be happening at the same time I'm editing a note - which version survives?  (If I'm managing an export of my own,  I'm -by definition- not doing anything else!)
Backupery exports unsynchronized notes too, so the note with the latest modifications will survive (even if it wasn't synchronized with Evernote servers).
 
- It seems that the default settings are every third hour.

It is just an obsolete screenshot on our website. Default settings are every third day.

 
One more note: actually we are going to add compression of backup directory + we have already implemented deletion of backup duplications.
 
Does that answer your question? Please let me know.

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Hi John,  thanks for your detailed answers.  My database size is 14GB / 21,000 notes - the average size,  as you'll see, is a lot higher than your model.  I digitised a library of documents so I have notes with lots of PDF pages.  At the moment I'm doing a local backup to external hard drives in two ways - including the Databases folder in my normal system backup,  and also copying the folder individually.  I'm currently running Win 8.1 and EN Desktop 5.9.2 beta on an 8GB I7 Dell.

 

You're right,  of course,  that restoring an ENEX file goes (by default I think) to a local notebook,  but I'm still concerned that if I ever had to restore my full database it would take me 2 months and a fair amount of extra work to get back to fully synced notes.  Nevertheless if the other choice was not to have any notes,  I think I could live with that...

 

Is there any chance that you'll consider offering a notebook-by-notebook backup at any stage?  That might answer Morticia's query about some notes not needing backup - like my own digitised library forinstance,  which is for reference,  not for frequent (or any) editing.  It wouldn't be a hardship to have one or more notebook(s) backed up once every 6 months,  while others got processed every few days...

 

I appreciate we're talking about - initially at least - a free product here,  so at some point the bells and whistles will start to incur a cost!

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Hi Gazumped,
thanks for the information about your system.
 
Is there any chance that you'll consider offering a notebook-by-notebook backup at any stage?  That might answer Morticia's query about some notes not needing backup - like my own digitised library forinstance,  which is for reference,  not for frequent (or any) editing.  It wouldn't be a hardship to have one or more notebook(s) backed up once every 6 months,  while others got processed every few days...

 

Yes, selective backup seems very reasonable. We've taken this into an account already. I can't provide ETA for this feature now, but it will be on our roadmap.

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- It seems that the default settings are every third hour.

It is just an obsolete screenshot on our website. Default settings are every third day.

 

One more note: actually we are going to add compression of backup directory + we have already implemented deletion of backup duplications.

 

Does that answer your question? Please let me know.

Hi

The screenshot in my post is from my computer.

And I can't change from 3 hours.

Is it a bug? Do you want my log file?

 

Every third day is okay!

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Seems a bit over-enthusiastic...  :mellow:

 

Yeah

2 are exactly the same...

 

If I'm going to pay for this program I need

The choose notebooks

And how often

 

Before that I have some difficulty to find it practical

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Morticia,

it turns out you are using obsolete version of the app. The current version is 2.0.853 (we have already changed the default backup period some time ago). Now the app makes backup every third day (I've just double-checked it). The program has to show notification about the new version though, probably we should make it more noticeable.

 

Anyway, you could download the latest version here: 

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Morticia,

it turns out you are using obsolete version of the app. The current version is 2.0.853 (we have already changed the default backup period some time ago). Now the app makes backup every third day (I've just double-checked it). The program has to show notification about the new version though, probably we should make it more noticeable.

 

Anyway, you could download the latest version here: 

http://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

 

Hi Okay, thanks.

Much better.

The old versions still on the webpage above the picture

"1. Download Backupery for Evernote to the computer where your Evernote application is installed."

 

And one more thing on my whishlist: Choose where to save the backups.

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OK I downloaded the app too (latest version) - first thoughts are: 

  • on Install,  Windows immediately 'protected' me from unknown software - kinda unsettling if you aren't expecting it...
  • The first backup starts immediately without any warnings or options - agree with Morticia I'd like a choice where it goes,  and I'd suggest a 'backup now,  or postpone?' (for 1/2/4/8 hours) option.
  • Checking the About tab I see this is a trial version expiring on 31/10
  • Some sort of a progress bar would be good - I got 'working' but how do I know when it's finished?  Can I sleep/ switch off the machine in the meantime?

- I'll add any further comments when the operation finishes.  Currently running at 30% disk / 90% memory (4GB Win 8.0 lappy here).  More to follow...

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Hi Morticia,

Thanks for pointing it out, fixed.

 

And one more thing on my whishlist: Choose where to save the backups.

 

Sure, the idea is taken into consideration.

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Thank you for trying our app :)
 
on Install,  Windows immediately 'protected' me from unknown software - kinda unsettling if you aren't expecting it...
Yes, we know about the issue. In order to be trusted on Windows 8 any software publisher needs to either buy a digital certificate or distribute software through Microsoft Windows Store. We plan to get the certificate soon, so the warning will disappear.
 
Checking the About tab I see this is a trial version expiring on 31/10
By default, the trial period for the software is 14 days.

The first backup starts immediately without any warnings or options - agree with Morticia I'd like a choice where it goes,  and I'd suggest a 'backup now,  or postpone?' (for 1/2/4/8 hours) option.
Some sort of a progress bar would be good - I got 'working' but how do I know when it's finished?  Can I sleep/ switch off the machine in the meantime?
The remarks seem really reasonable, taking them all into account. As for backup completion - currently, if you shutdown the computer during backup process, the worst thing can happen is you get an incomplete backup file. But the next version of the app (it is being tested now) marks any backup as 'completed' if it is completed successfully only. So, if you shutdown the computer during backup process, the backup will be considered as 'incomplete' and the next time you start the computer the app will start to backup the data again.
 

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Hmmn.  I looked again at 2pm (install + 2 hours) and the Backupery window said 'working';  then checked again just - 5pm (+5hrs) and it showed the same - was preparing to be underwhelmed,  but when I checked the backup file location,  a 17GB file is happily sitting there with a modified time of 12.52 which is about an hour after install.  So it looks like even my heavyweight database got copied in an hour or less,  which is actually pretty good.  The EXB file is 14GB so there's a bit of expansion when you export,  but I have USB drives that are bigger than that.  (Wouldn't recommend using one though because the data transfer rates are pants*...)

 

Subject to the reservations and suggestions above,  this is a sweet bit of software.  Thanks!

 

* UK slang for sub-optimal in a bad way ;)

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Thanks for the information! We've made a couple of new performance tests today and got that the application exports 1GB in ~3 minutes (we tested on Windows 7, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU 2.4 Ghz, 4 GB RAM). Well, the results, in general, coincide with yours.

 

UK slang for sub-optimal in a bad way  ;)

I should remember that  :)

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Hello!

 

I am glad to introduce the new release of Backupery for Evernote 2.1!

 

We have collected feedback from our users and implemented the most requested features.

 

Here is the list of the new features:

  • Ability to change backup destination. Now you could change backup destination that gives you the ability to store your backups to wide rande of destinations: built-in or external harddrives, network shares, USB sticks, cloud storages like Dropbox, Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive, etc.
  • Ability to change backup period. Another frequently requested feature was added to the application. Backup period can be varied from 1 day to 1 month.
  • Improvements of the user interface. For example, a user could see if backup is in progress or finished already. Also, we have added the possibility to check for updates directly from the application, so no need to wait for update notification to perform an update. Surely, update notification continues to work. Also, the application looks better on Windows 7 and Windows 8 now.
Here are some screenshots:

 

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Read more and download the app here: http://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

 

I’d love to hear your thoughts on these new release. Please let me know what you think. Use this thread, PM or contact us at contact@backupery.com. Also, you could use anonymous feedback link directly from the application.

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Hello!

Backupery for Evernote 2.5.98 is out!

Here are the most important changes in the software:

  • You don’t need administrator rights to install and run Backupery applications anymore, since generic user rights are enough.
  • We have embedded auto-update feature into the applications, so you will not need to download and install new versions of the software manually, all the future versions will be delivered and installed automatically.
  • More accurate backup scheduling.
  • Minor bugfixes.

Download it here: http://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

I’d love to hear your thoughts on the app. Please let me know what you think. Use this thread, PM or contact me at contact@backupery.com. Also, you could use anonymous feedback link directly from the application.

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Still Windows only.

On my Mac, I would be using an AppleScript to automate backups, however I do see a need for users who don't back up their local notebooks on a scheduled base.

I'm not seeing any notebook selection for backup, or separation of notebook backups.  I consider this a deficiency - I may not want to back up my sync'd notebooks, and I wouldn't want all my notebooks consolidated.

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14 hours ago, DTLow said:

Still Windows only.

On my Mac, I would be using an AppleScript to automate backups, however I do see a need for users who don't back up their local notebooks on a scheduled base.

I'm not seeing any notebook selection for backup, or separation of notebook backups.  I consider this a deficiency - I may not want to back up my sync'd notebooks, and I wouldn't want all my notebooks consolidated.

Yeah it is for Windows only for now.

Thanks for the hint - having an option to select notebooks to backup would be really useful. Will definitely consider implementing it :)

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Hello Evernoters!

Backupery for Evernote 3.0 is here.

Here is the list of changes:

  • Selective notebook backup. You could select notebooks which you wish to backup. 
  • The app preserves notebooks structure now. Notes from each notebook are saved to a separate backup file, so notebooks structure is preserved.
  • Display an amount of data backed on a last backup run.
  • Display a total amount of data backed since an application install.
  • Display an amount of free storage space.
  • Added ability to send support tickets directly from the application.
  • Bugixes and tiny user interface changes.

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No action required if you already using the application since the app will update itself to the latest version (thanks auto-update feature).

Download it here: http://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

As always, I’d love to hear your thoughts on the app. Please let me know what you think. Use this thread, PM or contact me at contact@backupery.com
Also, I've embedded anonymous feedback form directly into the application.

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1 hour ago, John Compton said:

Backupery for Evernote 3.0 is here.

John, looks like you've been doing some good work!

Is it possible to backup/export ONLY those notes which have changed or been added since the last backup/export?

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14 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

John, looks like you've been doing some good work!

Thanks for the kind words :)

14 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

Is it possible to backup/export ONLY those notes which have changed or been added since the last backup/export?

Yes, it is technically possible. We can export only new and modified notes on each run.

Actually backup size is an issue now. As far as I know, the average Evernote database size is 5-7 GB, so backup size for a month (say 1 backup per week) takes about 20-30 GB, that is large number, and also the data is duplicated significantly. So something should be done regarding the issue.

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Including an idiot proof net backup restore type process, I assume.  :)

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15 hours ago, John Compton said:

Yes, it is technically possible. We can export only new and modified notes on each run.

John, sorry if I'm being dense here, but please clarify:

Does the current version support incremental export (only new/modified notes), OR, are you referring to what is possible in a future version?

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13 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

John, sorry if I'm being dense here, but please clarify:

Does the current version support incremental export (only new/modified notes), OR, are you referring to what is possible in a future version?

No, the current version (3.0) doesn't support incremental export (new/updated notes). But we definitely should solve backup duplication issue in the future versions somehow.

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Hello!

Backupery for Evernote 4.0 has been released.

Download it here: http://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

Here are the new features:

  • The app preserves stack and notebook structure. For example, the notebook NNN from stack SSS is backed up to the directory NNN that is inside directory SSS.
  • The app provides two types of backup: Incremental and Full. If Incremental backup is turned on the app backups only new and updated notes, if case of Full backup the app backups all notes each time.
  • Added Run Now button. Now you can start the backup manually.
  • Bugfixes that increase stability of the app.

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No action required if you already using the application since the app will update itself.

Please let me know what you think. Send me your issues, ideas or questions at contact@backupery.com, or use this thread or PM.

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53 minutes ago, EverDanielW said:

Hi John,

Does Backupery include tag data in the backups?

Thanks,
Dan

Hi EverDanielW,

Yep, it does include tag data in the backups. So if you import your notes back, they will contain tag data.

Thanks,

John

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5 hours ago, EverDanielW said:

Hi John,

That's great news, I'll give it a go!

Thanks,
Dan

No problem. Please write back with any future questions or concerns you might have.

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Hello Evernoters!

Backupery for Evernote macOS is here: https://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/
It is application for backing up Evernote data on the destination of your choice.

Some notes:
- It works with non-AppStore version of Evernote: https://evernote.com/download/
- Performs backup to ENEX format
- Autostarts with your Mac
- Simple scheduler to run backup regularly

It is a beta version of the software, so please let me know about any issues with app.
 

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Hey John,

Just downloaded the Mac version trial, which doesn't appear to be a beta version.  However, a number of features in Widows version appear to be missing such as choice between full and incremental backups, and the capability to choose one or more notebooks. Also, there is no feedback that indicates that a backup is underway. Without it, I though the program was not working but actually created three backups.

Am I missing something or "WYSIWYG?"

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On 2/24/2017 at 4:58 AM, John Compton said:

Backupery for Evernote macOS is here: https://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/
It is application for backing up Evernote data on the destination of your choice.

John, that is very good to hear (see)!

Do you have any plans to automate a restore (recovery, actually) of selected Notes or Notebooks?

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On 3/31/2017 at 0:05 AM, Tailspin said:

Hey John,

Just downloaded the Mac version trial, which doesn't appear to be a beta version.  However, a number of features in Widows version appear to be missing such as choice between full and incremental backups, and the capability to choose one or more notebooks. Also, there is no feedback that indicates that a backup is underway. Without it, I though the program was not working but actually created three backups.

Am I missing something or "WYSIWYG?"

Hi Tailspin,

Sorry for the late reply and thanks for giving the app a try! 
Actually yes, the Windows version provides more capabilities than the Mac one. However, we are going to add more features to the Mac version to make it more flexible. 

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Also, there is no feedback that indicates that a backup is underway.

Hmm, thanks for the note! We should definitely consider adding it. 

May I ask do you have any other issues besides you have already noted? Does everything work as expected?

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On 4/1/2017 at 10:20 PM, JMichaelTX said:

John, that is very good to hear (see)!

Do you have any plans to automate a restore (recovery, actually) of selected Notes or Notebooks?

Hi JMichaelTX,

The restoration feature is on our roadmap, but for now I am not sure it doesn't clash with Evernote Premium note history feature so it will make our app violate Evernote third-party apps policy. I will research this and if we are allowed to add the feature, we should create this, I think it will make the app much more easy to use.
 

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26 minutes ago, John Compton said:

The restoration feature is on our roadmap, but for now I am not sure it doesn't clash with Evernote Premium note history feature so it will make our app violate Evernote third-party apps policy.

I would hope that it does not conflict.

What would be ideal is if you could provide more of a true restore feature than Evernote offers.  By this I mean this type of restore process:

  1. User selects a Note in Evernote
  2. User then asks for a Backupery restore
  3. Backupery presents a list of available backups, including Note title, D/T of backup, Note sized, with an option for viewing the backup contents.  On the Mac using the quick preview would be a great option.
  4. User selects the backup, and Backupery replaces the current Note contents from the Backup, including attachments

This would keep the original Note GUID, which is very important.

Do you think this is feasible?

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4 hours ago, JMichaelTX said:

I would hope that it does not conflict.

What would be ideal is if you could provide more of a true restore feature than Evernote offers.  By this I mean this type of restore process:

  1. User selects a Note in Evernote
  2. User then asks for a Backupery restore
  3. Backupery presents a list of available backups, including Note title, D/T of backup, Note sized, with an option for viewing the backup contents.  On the Mac using the quick preview would be a great option.
  4. User selects the backup, and Backupery replaces the current Note contents from the Backup, including attachments

This would keep the original Note GUID, which is very important.

Do you think this is feasible?

I think yes, generally it is feasible since Evernote Client stores its data inside Sqlite database and the format of the database is well documented. However, problably the workflow will differ from those you have suggested, since as far as I know Evernote doesn't allow to modify the behavior of their official clients via third-party apps, so the steps 1 and 2 (User selects a Note in Evernote, User then asks for a Backupery restore) have to be accomplished in some other way. Probably it would be some third-party note browser just for purpose of restoring the note or notebook.

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8 hours ago, John Compton said:

as far as I know Evernote doesn't allow to modify the behavior of their official clients via third-party apps

I'm not sure if AppleScript counts as a third-party app in this context, but I do exactly that all the time using an AppleScript script and/or a Keyboard Maestro macro.

For example, I am in a Note in Evernote, and trigger a script to get the text on the first line to set the Creation Date and URL of the Note.

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On 4/3/2017 at 10:02 PM, JMichaelTX said:

I'm not sure if AppleScript counts as a third-party app in this context, but I do exactly that all the time using an AppleScript script and/or a Keyboard Maestro macro.

For example, I am in a Note in Evernote, and trigger a script to get the text on the first line to set the Creation Date and URL of the Note.

This is interesting. Thanks for the hint, will definitely look into it.

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Hi there!

We've released a new version of Backupery for Evernote for Windows :) You may download it here: https://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

Here are some updates:

  • The ability to backup directly to Dropbox (without the need of an intermediate local directory):                                      Evernote_Settings_Backup_To_Dropbox.png
  • The ability to backup data in HTML format so you can easy to view your exported notes.                        Evernote_Settings_Tab_Html_Export_Marked
  • You may setup multiple backup destinations now, so you can duplicate you backup data to your local drive and USB drive at once, for example. Evernote_Settings_BackupDestinations.png
  • It’s much more easier to select notebooks to backup now:                             Evernote_Settings_Select_Notebooks_To_Ba

 

Download page: https://www.backupery.com/products/backupery-for-evernote/

Please let me know what you think. Any ideas, suggestions, and questions are highly appreciated!

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Hi.  I downloaded to evaluate - always looking for better ways to back up my precious data.  Was surprised that downloading and starting the installer didn't seem to 'do' anything.  Searched my desktop (three screens,  lots of windows - long story) and found a little window tucked away behind everything else that said 'backup in progress' (or some such). 

I was surprised.  I'd made no choices about type of backup,  to which drive etc etc...

The window sat there without any indication that anything was happening until I went to eat.  Came back (much) later and now I have this -

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Still no sign where my backup is,  though I'm sure I'll find it.  Still - nice that it works 'out of the box' so to speak without lots of pre-setting up,  but BAD that I have a 4GB backup of my 17GB database- apparently (according to the 'settings' page) on an 'incremental' basis.  If this is a first use,  wouldn't a full backup be better?  Or better yet a dialogue on installation inviting me to choose and maybe defer the backup until I stop working?  (Although the backup-in-progress didn't visibly slow anything down,  so full marks there!)

Anyway.  I'll get a full backup and see whether that's a bigger file.  Please work on your install process though.  It's rude and uninformative at the moment

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Hi Gazumped!

Thanks so much for trying the tool, I really appreciate it. The feedback is very important for us, since it gives us fresh look on what confuses users and what should be improved.

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but BAD that I have a 4GB backup of my 17GB database- apparently (according to the 'settings' page) on an 'incremental' basis.  If this is a first use,  wouldn't a full backup be better? 

I've reproduced this problem in my lab and I'm currently working on it. For now I could say the app mistakenly skips some notebooks during the backup for some reason. I'll post here about the results.

Thanks again for trying and providing such actionable feedback!

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Hi there!

Here is a quick update on the problem that leads some notebooks are skipped from the backup. 

As you probably know, at some step of backup process the app uses ENScript.exe (https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/enscript.php#enscript) tool to perform export of notebooks. We've discovered that the tool hangs sometimes exporting large notebooks (> 2GB) with no apparent reason. The problem arises sporadically, so we still haven't found clear steps to reproduce the issue, but I suppose this is because of some kind of notebook "locking" since trying to run the same export after a few hours often helps so the backup completes successfully. 

I'll report the issue to Evernote, hope they shed some light on the issue.
 

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4 hours ago, Backupery said:

I'll report the issue to Evernote, hope they shed some light on the issue.

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Sitting here with one notebook containing 20,000+ notes,  I'll watch for an outcome with some interest!!

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Hmmn.  Have been letting the backups rip for a while to see how things went.  I started out with an incremental backup and then switched to full since I hadn't used the app before;  I might have left it on 'full' and 'daily' for a few days now. 

My Google drive seems to be a bit full,  since I backed up to my local hard drive plus the Google folder with some confused idea that I'd make the backup files 'online only';  which doesn't seem possible with this setup.  It does max out memory,  drive access and network access in the process of a backup.

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Haven't gone through my Google contents to see how much of my big main notebook got captured yet..

All that slows down my access a lot - any chance of a timed operation - "daily at 1700" sort of thing?

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Further to the last post...  Started getting more urgent drive full messages from Google,  so took a look at the folder.  After 14 days of backups I was using over 80GB of storage (daily mixed full and incremental backups) in just over 100 folders,  14 files per folder.  (Each notebook gets exported to its own ENEX file)

Looked for a way to tell Backupery to keep a rolling 5 days' history (ie: replace backups over nn days old) - none available that I can see.

Started deleting all backups from June - 6 files per folder.  100+ times.  Glup.

So:  deleted all the history so far,  reset the backup to incremental,  and we'll see what happens with the next scheduled backup,  which (the app tells me) is in an hour - at midday.  Would prefer to change that to 11pm or so - but see previous post.  :huh:

God job I kept up my 'other' backup process meanwhile.

So:  needed please -

  • timed backups
  • history clear-outs (replace files over x days old)
  • manual clearance - delete files over x days old

One question:  If I do an incremental backup,  but have no recent full backup,  what is this 'incremental' to?  All recently changed notes? Today's date? Unsynced notes?

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Hi gazumped!

Thanks so much for checking out the tool and for your feedback.

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I started out with an incremental backup and then switched to full since I hadn't used the app before;  I might have left it on 'full' and 'daily' for a few days now. 

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If I do an incremental backup,  but have no recent full backup,  what is this 'incremental' to?  All recently changed notes? Today's date? Unsynced notes?

It works the following way for the incremental backup: if the app sees there is no previous notebook backup at all, then it makes full notebook backup, i.e. exports all the notes from the notebook. That is why the first incremental backup is actually the full one.
If some previous notebook backup exists, then the app exports notes that were added or updated after the latest backup. Here is a quick example:

Say I have a notebook called Notebook1 and run the app for the first time at the 1st of July 4.30 A.M. Since there is no previous backup, then the app makes full backup of the notebook and creates the single enex file in Notebook1 directory:

<StoragePath>\Notebook1\2017_July_01_04_30_00.enex

Let's say the next run is at the 3rd of July 10.30 A.M. Since the previous backup already exists the app exports all the added/updated notes that were introduced between the 1st of July 4.30 A.M. and the 3rd of July 10.30 A.M., so the backup directory contains:

<StoragePath>\Notebook1\2017_July_01_04_30_00.enex  <-- the first backup (full backup)
<StoragePath>\Notebook1\2017_July_03_10_30_00.enex  <-- added/updated notes after the 1st of July 4.30 A.M. till now (i.e. till the 3rd of July 10.30 A.M.)

On the next run (say at the 5th of July 11.00 A.M.) it exports added/updated notes between the the 3rd of July 10.30 A.M. and the 5th of July 11.00 A.M.

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All that slows down my access a lot - any chance of a timed operation - "daily at 1700" sort of thing?

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timed backups

In fact, I'm began working on it a short time ago. I can't provide ETA for now, but I think it will be ready for the following couple of releases.

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history clear-outs (replace files over x days old)

Actually it is a frequently requested feature, so it's already on our roadmap. 

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manual clearance - delete files over x days old

I think I got your idea, but just to double-check: you wish to have the ability to remove backup files over x days old without entering each of 100 directories and manually delete each file, right?

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Hi.  Thanks for a full and very helpful answer!  I now understand the logic behind the process - all due respect that's actually quite a sophisticated feature - I'd suggest you highlight it more on your website or FAQs (unless you already do,  in which case I missed it!)

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13 hours ago, Backupery said:

I think I got your idea, but just to double-check: you wish to have the ability to remove backup files over x days old without entering each of 100 directories and manually delete each file, right?

Absolutely.  My answer to the multiple folder problem yesterday was to zap everything and start over.  If Backupery was my only backup solution I'd be most reluctant to clear all my history that way.

Thanks again for your help - and I'll look forward to the scheduled backups being available...

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Just an update on the issue that may prevent a large notebook from backing up. (As you probably remember, some large notebooks can't be exported successfully with no apparent reason)

I've got the reply from Evernote Team - they're aware of this issue and working on a fix to be scheduled in a future release, but they don't currently have an ETA for when it will be resolved.

So, hope it will be fixed in the next release of Evernote client.

Meanwhile, I'll try to create some kind of workaround for the issue.

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