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Editing is Foobar in Update ... How Do I Revert?

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I've been noticing weirdnesses in editing ever since I updated this morning ...

 

I am NOT a happy camper...

 

In one of my notes ... some of the blank lines disappeared... (what is odd is, that it wasn't even consistent)

 

Now I just tried to put a note link into a table and I can't ... without ***** up the table ..it separates my rows and puts the note link on a line all by itself ...

 

There's at least one other peculiarness I ran into but I don't remember what it is ...

 

Suggestions...

  1. Do you guys happen to have a test suite you run?  If so, and you did, it needs to be updated...
  2. Decision tables can help sort out and be used for finding edge conditions which really, to be honest, without tools like it, just are not possible to find any other way ... (I used them in my career as a data comm engineer to find a problem in real time code in the Bank of America wire room decades ago ... the stuff works.  Highly recommended.)

Is there a way to revert?

Thank you!

 


 

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Hi.  There's a ton of information here on the various problems of the latest update and how to get around them - although lag isn't something I recall seeing;  and given the feedback,  Evernote is likely to bring out some further changes fairly soon.  If you possibly can,  it's a lot better to use workarounds and chat with Support (see my sig) than to revert to an earlier version.

 

If that's not what you want to do,  there's also lots of information here about how to completely remove and reinstall Evernote.  All you need do is remove it and install an earlier version.  Searching the forums will find the release notes like here:  https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/86114-new-evernote-for-windows-5813-ga-update/  will find the history (Justin Street is usually the man posting,  so looking back over his stuff will give you more...) or you can try sites like this one -

 

Two caveats

  • You'll need to completely remove your current Evernote* to step back,  so any Local Notebooks or currently unsynced notes need to be exported and possibly re-imported into your database,  and
  • No-one's posted here that a reversion fixes all their problems,  so you might not find that it cures everything...

For belt and braces removal I'd suggest copying your current Databases folder somewhere else - your desktop maybe - then use Revo Uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html to zap the current setup and reinstall your preferred version.  Depending on the settings you use,  Revo shouldn't erase the database folder,  so logging in may put you back on track.  If it does take out the folder,  you'll need to download the server copy and add back your notebooks as above.  Revo will zap any error logs you may have,  so talk to Support,  if you want to do so,  before you start!

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I think I need a flowchart to follow all that ...  :)

 

Like ... could you describe what you mean by "belts and braces", and how that differs from the other removal you mention?

I don't except stepping back to fix everything ... I've put up with some of EN's idiosyncrasies in the past, and figured out workarounds...

...But are you saying that stepping back may still plague me with problems that I hadn't seen before?

BTW ..
I "worked" around putting note links into a table without the table going fubar ... (adding the text, then finding the actual link for the note link, and using control-K to add that link to my newly entered text.)

 

A new issue: I also had trouble when I did a ctl-shift-v copy of a list of elements ... what got entered, unlike before, was all my list elements on one line, instead of a separate line for each ...

D'yall have a bug tracking database so it's possible to see whether a particular problem has already been reported?
 

...for folks behind an 'information management" app this comment "There's a ton of information here on the various problems of the latest update and how to get around them"  is pretty unsatisfying ...

Unless you can point me to a CENTRAL place (not the whole forum, or whole website) to look up current issues...?  That is, without having to search thru a ton of irrelevant stuff?

I mean ... gosh ... maybe even use your own webapp and publicly published notes?

 

...or am I missing something ... (it happens ... sometimes when you use search, you get the leaves, and there's no "backlink" to the trunk.)

Please help set me straight and ease my pain...

 

Thanks!

 

P.S. The one thing I did see that was improved was the ctrl-z/ctrl-y functionality ... if it hadn't been for that, I'm not sure if I could have fixed my poor table issue easily ... I see someone else had the same issue...must be some sort of weird condition .. because it seemed to happen inconsistently in notes which had identical tables.  The fact that it seems to work again by ctrl-z the problematic edit, change to new note, go back to orig note sounds like there's some strange state the note is in that gets reset...)

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Here's another exciting fubar ...

 

I have a firefox extension which will copy the urls of open pages to the clipboard ...

 

I copy and paste into a text editor and it works beautifully ...

 

Something like this ...

 

https://evernote.com/
https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88643-editing-is-foobar-in-update-how-do-i-revert/
https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88679-clear-recent-search-history-security-issue/
 

 

Bueno!  Done this many, many times in previous Evernote...

 

But now when I do it ... or even just copy and paste the above 3 links I get ...

https://evernote.com/<br/>https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88643-editing-is-foobar-in-update-how-do-i-revert/<br/>https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88679-clear-recent-search-history-security-issue/

YUK!!!!

 

(see the little <br>'s stuck in there?)

 

...and when I go to edit the link I get ...

https://evernote.com/%3Cbr/%3Ehttps://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88643-editing-is-foobar-in-update-how-do-i-revert/%3Cbr/%3Ehttps://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88679-clear-recent-search-history-security-issue/

(both of these are "linked up" .. .but I need to use the "code" feature of the editor to get them to display correctly.)

 

 

So, of course, when I click on the link ... it gets me ... what else .. but a 404 error ...

I think someone was trying to optimize the code here...

Look, I realize y'all have a lot of challenges, supporting a zillion different platforms and all their idiosyncrasies'n'all ... but c'mon ...

 

I mean, you are using your own modified form of xml (not quite sure how modified it needs to be, as the XML standard allows for a lot of flexibility) ... and I think the major browsers manage to handle all these different platforms...maybe take a look at how some of these opensource browsers do things?

 

As much as I've loved Evernote ... this could easily send me back to using mindmaps ...


Maybe a source editor, and a search and replace function would help ... or at least a "code" feature would be helpful here?

 

Thanks again.

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Hi again.  In case you didn't realise,  this is a user forum,  so you're not talking directly to Evernote - though they do read posts... eventually... meantime more experienced users give what help we can. There's a bit of a learning curve to fiddling under Evernote's hood - including apparently getting used to Brit slang like 'belt and braces' - which just means taking extra extra precautions so your pants don't fall down unexpectedly...  ;)

 

If you read the latest posts in the forums,  there have been some interesting changes lately for Mac and other platforms.  Windows hasn't been addressed yet,  but Evernote explained some of what's happening here - https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/88637-the-evernote-editor/

 

Given that there have been lots of updates flying around,  I'd suggest that you suffer the current problems for the moment,  maybe join the discussion on that thread,  and wait for the changes.  If you do need a step by step guide to fixing individual issues,  then you might try tweeting @EvernoteHelps,  or if you're a paying user - Plus or Premium - see the Support Request link in my signature below.  There's a Chat option for premium users.

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Thanks muchly for the "master link"

 

Interesting distinction between a "user forum" and talking directly to Evernote ... 

And, yeah, I've definitely fiddled around with EN, and what I can find so far "under the hood" ... going as far as to maybe learn a bit of Ruby and experiment with the EN APIs...

 

I've been using EN for quite a while now....so the only thing about "fiddling under the hood" which is new would be the "belts and braces" Britishism...

...I've done quite a bit of research on Evernote, not only as a user, but as a prospective developer of Add-ons and other EN related products...

But there's VAST ground to cover, here ...

 

Thanks again for the "master" thread I can go check out.

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