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ios Recent Penultimate Upgrade. Why fix something that isn't broken!

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Hey evernote, why did u do this? I agree with all said.

 

Can you just please upload the old app as a seperate application for those who would really like to use the old version. At least until you fix this one?

 

The email sent by evernote was very proffesionally made and I believed it. I hope in very short time, we will have a great solution from evernote.

 

 

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I agree with the other posts in this threat. The old version worked great. I find the new version frustrating, especially because there is no help on how to use the new version. Terrible upgrade!

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totally agree! yet there are a lot of bugs! some marks that are un-erasable appear from time to time! the writing alignment has become worse! wherever i write, the marks appear at a lower position! hate it!!!

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I totally agree! I even have a premium evernote account and was happy with penultimate! It is sooooo frustrating not even able to write normal !!! On a writing app? And the books are combined and so on , it is all said above. Please fix this !!

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Actually considering to move everything from Evernote Premium back to my Mac. No one knows the next weird action of the Evernote Team. Sorry but that bad move killed my business workflow. Reverted back to pen and real Paper for the Moment :-(

Please give back the old Version, fix the new one and come back with it in one year or two, three...

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Hi,

With this upgrade penultimate became almost unusable for me ; with a premium Evernote account, as a disable teacher i used it a lot with jotscript pen or bamboo. Now it's slow and not reliable. In an important meeting i've lost part of my notes... Give us back the wonderfull previous Penultimate !

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While not wanting to throw baby out with bath water......The new version seems to have worsened in areas of merit and improved in other areas not so critical or beneficial. The page scroll issue is a disaster. To the earlier post.....why change this anyway ?? It was fine. On a brighter note......it now competes with One Note :)

I'm trying out other apps

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I'm completely agree with you guys, this new versión is way below for the older one. Beyond the fact that it's complex to use, it crashes all the time and I've lost an entire sheet of contents. I think that the design team spent more time thinking about the appearance of the interface rather than its functionality. Is just sad because it was one of my favorite and most useful app. Please, if you can't improve this versión, at least allow us to get back to the older one.

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I agree,

Penultimate not only have you shot yourselves in both feet but your customers as well.

THE UPDATE IS A DISASTER.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the previous version it was so easy to write or draw a sketch and then email it. Now I can not find that feature.

The update has messed up my saved books and and to change pages does not work as you describe,

Please someone tel me how to go back to the previous version.

Rodney Arnold

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You just have to laugh at the way a company like Evernote disregards their customers and makes an update which ruins their product but instead of saying yeah it's a disaster and revert it back to the original version they do an update that doesn't solve the main issues.

Do yourselves a favour and get a new product.

I know not easy or affordable for all but I bought a surface pro 3 over this whole debacle and it kills penultimate current, previous and version prior to that. We I say it kills it, it's not correct it abliterates it. The adonit pen feels like a chisel and stone compared with the surface pen and there is zero lag.

And the best part no idiotic updates anywhere in site.

See you Evernote, this should become a case study in business school for how not to perform an app update and customer service.

Pathetic

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I ABSOLUTELY agree. I never write on forums but this upgrade is so bad I have to.

The absolute worst is work chat. obliging us to use it to share some notes.

HURRY UP before you lose users who LOVED your app.

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Hello Penultimate/Evernote,

 

I just checked out the Penultimate app again today and guess what...it still doesn't work.  I'm being very sincere when I say that it truly blows my mind that the people who actually make decisions within Evernote have yet to fix their mistake.  Having a VP write a letter to everyone and admitting the mistake seemed great at first.  However, adding onto the end of that letter that upgrades need to be made to stay current is lame guys, really lame!  

 

Maybe I could have swallowed that letter if you actually had fixed the app but, you didn't!  You added one or two little things that don't really do anything to the underlying problem.  That underlying problem being that the fundamental upgrade you put out doesn't work...Literally!  I took a screen shot of the writing and the zoomed in writing and it's horrible.  I wish I could insert the screen shot into this post but I don't know hoe to do it.  If I did, there's no way you could say that your upgrade is anything but a dismal failure.  

 

I'm shocked that the people who work at Evernote are not screaming their heads off about this ***** up, maybe they are unless of course their worried about losing their jobs.  The only thing that makes sense to me now is that the people at Evernote who are making the decisions don't actually use their own product.  This to me is really the only way you could have let someone ***** up your great app. 

 

I am in no way a big shot in the business world so Evernote you probably won't care about this but I just have to let you know this.  Last year and this year I ran one of the highest grossing real estate offices in my territory.  My job was to recruit and train top agents.  I was recommending Penultimate at first to all my agents and even told my agents to consider using Evernote.  I was even talking to the investors who owned my office about utilizing Penultimate and Evernote in our other eight offices in the north region of the U.S.  Well, GUESS WHAT...that's not going to happen now.  

 

I truly can't understand how a company actually puts out a sub-par product, acknowledges and admits that they put out a sub-par product, then throws on a few bells and whistles onto their sub-par product but still doesn't actually FIX their sub-par product.  Come on guys, pick up an Ipad and try to use your own app and compare it to your old Penultimate app.  Let's all be honest with each other.  Your app and the little fixes you made to it don't measure up.  It's time to scrap it and regain some self respect for Evernote and your profession.  

 

The reason I'm taking time out of my day to write this is because I used the Penultimate app everyday for many different parts of my life, both business and personal.  It probably was the most used app on my Ipad.  Let me take away your pen and paper and replace it with a piece of stone and a chisel and see how you feel.  That's what it's like and no I'm not being overly dramatic.  I used Penultimate for my personal journal and business notes and tasks and now I'm reorganizing everything.  IT Sucks!  

 

I think I'm giving up now on Penultimate and Evernote.  Does anyone know a great writing app like Penultimate used to be? 

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I am highly disappointed. I saw the older version of penultimate on my friends iPad and fell in love with that version. I then purchased an iPad, and to my extreme disappointed was presented with this new "upgrade". 

 

In a few words:

 

Penultimate now sucks!

 

Simple as that.

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I can only agree with what is being said. The most painfull is the new "next page" function forcing me to put the stylo down and try multiple times with two fingers to get the darn thing to scroll... In the previous version a simple tap in the top right corner would suffice to get to a next page. CAN I GET THAT FUNCTION BACK PLEASE!!??!!

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Penultimate for me remains unsable I have deleted it because literally YOU CANNOT WRITE!!! I have a jot script stylus and the writing is so bad on my Air 2 that it's totally unusable. Did this get beta tested? The version where drift was first released was far far far more stable writing wise then this. The new drift mode is totally unsable , the sad thing is that a huge focus should be made to make the case for the jot script but Evernote this app Penultimate has literally fallen by the waist side, I challenge anyone to use Noteshekf with the Jot Script and you will get better response from the pen then Evernotes own product. It's really sad, I used to use penultimate all the time for notation now it's basically a deleted app Because it's simoly not usable. I am unsure if Evernote cares about it because I have even made a video about it and posted it and they haven't done anything yet. They really need to update the app because as it stands right now Penultimate is a BUST & th Jot Script Stylus.

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For some of us this update is worse than useless. I am a legally blind grad student and have used penultimate to make notes about my research, for over a year. The "infinite scroll" makes it impossible for me to find anything. In addition the new edit feature now displays pages in a column instead of a grid...so it is impossible to see a note in a context.

I understand that developers need to do change for the sake of change...how else can you justify your job if a product that was meant to be simple ...worked just fine...

i am totally screwed because of your mindless culture that believes in...thrives on... The delusion of endless progress.

Please I would pay for the old version ...or at least the ability to turn off that F.....g infinite scroll. There is a reason why bound books with individual pages ...replaced scrolls....Please tell the ...scroll idea...moron on your team to read some history...OR even notice that things like menus and legal documents ARE NOT WRITTEN ON SCROLLS....

Better yet just fire them ...any "designers" that f.....g clueless will drag your company into the ground. 

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Because of Penulitmate not being usable I have found the perfect combo that far surpassed my experience with Penultimate and the Jot Script maintaining Evernote sync.

Use Fiftey Threes Pencil with NoteShelf!!!!! Also it works insane with Paper for Sketches etc

I know you may say well it's not as thin, here's the kicker it's MORE ACCURATE AND THE PALM REJECTION IS INSANE!!!!

Better product better drivers for better note taking software and NoteShelf AUTO SYNCS with EN negating Penultimate all together . I have bought 3 BT Styluses and bar one this combo blows them all away.

I am now writing and drawing and note taking more then ever with superior hardware and application on all fronts. Also the rear erase mode is genius I may add, also no gaps no ugly handwriting and just perfect responses. As a former Penultimate user and a premuim user of EN Ditch Penulitmate Ditch the Jot Script get the Pencil and Note Shelf and auto sync with EN. Penultimate seems to be a dead product with not ETA on it ever working as we want it to work, fortunately there is software and hardware that people are passionate about that got it right finally.

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I TOTALLY AGREE... THIS IS THE WORST UPGRADE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN ANY TECHNOLOGY I HAVE USED FOR 20 YEARS... I was Evernotes biggest advocate... I absolutely adored them... now they just really let me down... there are problems all over the place with this recent upgrade... here is some things I discovered that are hurting my business and work flow now... 

 

1). You used to be able to have real-time collaboration... meaning two people could be on the note at the same time in conference and working inside the note.. but now.. they have this pain in the ass "Note Lock" feature that locks you out of the note!!  Thats right, in case you thought I was stuttering... if you are sharing a note at the same time with someone else... you automatically get locked out of the note... the makes it impossible to work inside the note... no cursor, nothing... just freezes on you. AND... there is no way to disable the "lock"... the only way you can regain editing control is to tell the other party to close the note and reopen it... lame.

 

2). There is no way to copy the notebook URL to simply paste it into a browser... if you right click on a notebook and choose "modify sharing"... and then copy the URL... it doesn't copy.. it fails to paste.

 

Watch this screen capture:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11616972/No%20Way%20to%20copy%20a%20notebook%20URL.mp4

 

3). I have had other strange issues as well... like everything suddenly getting centered in the note... and when scrolling a large note, it lags... and drags... it used to be fast.

 

Its really infuriating that they had the best damn product in the world and then went out and let their engineers "tinker" with ideas they though there "cool".. .that nobody needed and killed the capabilities that their customers relied on.

 

A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT... 

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I recently renewed my interest in penultimate and decided to go paperless with my notes. I was still on the old version just last week - and made the fateful mistake of upgrading, prior to researching on the web. I won't rehash what I hate about it - but I did want to add my voice to the masses - the prior version was superior and the update is most certainly a downgrade. Thankfully, I was able to restore the old version - I lost my prior notebooks - but I printed off the crucial one prior to deleting version 6.0. I really don't want to switch to another product, I want Evernote to listen to its users and go back to the version and features everyone loved.

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Get a Pencil by Fiftey Three and use Noteshelf. PU is dead if no updates or even a blog mention is being put out that is a indicator of nothing to expect, you would think the uproar would've had a response but, I have a PU stylus that's DOA and a app that's DOA. The Pencil By Fiftey three in contrast support is insane, Best stylus I have used.

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I've given up on EN doing anything to address the new design with Penultimate (or as I now call it Pennotimate or PU because it stinks), so I chose NOT to renew my premium membership and have officially switched to Bamboo. It is basically what PU was before they screwed it up and it syncs with EN.

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I've given up on EN doing anything to address the new design with Penultimate (or as I now call it Pennotimate or PU because it stinks), so I chose NOT to renew my premium membership and have officially switched to Bamboo. It is basically what PU was before they screwed it up and it syncs with EN.

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With today's update I crossed my fingers hoping the circles were replaced. My choice to replace the circles with a galley list down the left side to chose from. These circles are a terrible choice, difficult to choose a note from, where a list would make it much easier.

Very disappointed in this update.

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