Level 5 Stuhrer 252 Posted October 3, 2014 Level 5 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hi,I spent some time comparing the new "Web UI preview" with the productive version and have made a list of missing or changed features in the preview (not bugs!). I just want to document the facts without any judgment. Please feel free to add things, I am sure I did not find all. I am going to constantly update this list. I will cross-out the features that will be added by Evernote in the future to the "Web UI preview" so one can see the progress.Side barNo expandable/collapsable lists of notebooks, tags etc. which increases the number of necessary clicks and scroll actions to reach an entryNo drag&drop to/within the sidebarNo nested tagsTags can not be renamed or deletedStacks can not be created/deletedNotebooks can not be created in or moved to stacksSearchNo saved searchesNo possibility to save a searchNo previous searchesNo FiltersNo Multi-Selection tocombine notes,delete notes,present notes,e-mail multiple notes,change notebook,add tags.No remindersNo list viewNo hyperlinks (only automatic links when entering something like http://...)No location informationNo way to print a noteNo inline view of pdf filesNo possibility to display a note in a separate window (I use it often on second screen)Only 4 notes in the snippet view on my Mac in contrast to 8 in the productive version and 24 in the list viewIn most cases I cannot see the complete title of my notes just about 32 charactersLots of unused whitespace. For example when you switch to the fullscreen view of a note it actually just moves the note to the center but does not use the additional space.Selection of text style has to be done after adding textDifficult to read due to lack in contrastHuge fonts take unecessary space.No possibiity to set a notebook as favouriteNo possibility to share a note via E-MailNo gallery of pictures in the noteNo possibility to create tablesNo possibility to retrieve notes history (premium feature)Encrypted notes can not be viewedOpening the site always creates a new empty note Link to comment
NBarreto 20 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hi, I spent some time today comparing the new "Web UI preview" with the productive version and have made a list of missing or changed features in the preview. I just want to document the facts without any judgement. Please feel free to add things, I am sure I did not find all.Side bar No expandable/collapsable lists of notebooks, tags etc. which increases the number of necessary clicks and scroll actions to reach an entry No drag&drop to the sidebar No nested tags Search No saved searches No possibility to save a search No previous searches No Filters No reminders No list view No hyperlinks No location information No way to print a note No inline view of pdf files No possibility to display a note in a separate window (I use it often on second screen) Only 4 notes in the snippet view on my Mac in contrast to 8 in the productive version and 24 in the list view In most cases I cannot see the complete title of my notes just about 32 characters Lots of unused whitespace. For example when you switch to the fullscreen view of a note it actually just moves the note to the center but does not use the additional space. Selection of text style has to be done after adding text Difficult to read due to lack in contrast I would add: - Huge Fonts, specially on larger monitors (I have a 22"), take unecessary space. And I agree with the key missing features, just adding some additional detail: - Reminders (in particular being able to open a notebook and see what reminders are associated with that notebook)- One click access to Notes (too many clicks now)- If the intent is to provide a simplified UI when you login, provide the option to "pin" one of the sideviews, replicating the current 3 pane layout view.- Too much whitespace. Why are note lists centered ? Why does a note not take the whole screen if space is available ??? Like someone else said in a different thread, aesthetics are important, but should be balanced by functionality. Link to comment
Level 5* JMichaelTX 4,117 Posted October 3, 2014 Level 5* Share Posted October 3, 2014 Hi, I spent some time today comparing the new "Web UI preview" with the productive version and have made a list of missing or changed features in the preview. I just want to document the facts without any judgement. Please feel free to add things, I am sure I did not find all.Side bar No expandable/collapsable lists of notebooks, tags etc. which increases the number of necessary clicks and scroll actions to reach an entry No drag&drop to the sidebar No nested tags Search No saved searches No possibility to save a search No previous searches No Filters No reminders No list view No hyperlinks No location information No way to print a note No inline view of pdf files No possibility to display a note in a separate window (I use it often on second screen) Only 4 notes in the snippet view on my Mac in contrast to 8 in the productive version and 24 in the list view In most cases I cannot see the complete title of my notes just about 32 characters Lots of unused whitespace. For example when you switch to the fullscreen view of a note it actually just moves the note to the center but does not use the additional space. Selection of text style has to be done after adding text Difficult to read due to lack in contrast Huge fonts take unecessary space. @Stuhrer: Thanks for posting this. Very helpful. @Evernote Release Team: This is exactly the kind of Release Notes you SHOULD have provided/displayed BEFORE the user signs up for the so-called BETA (which it is not). If you want to ask for help from your users, that's fine. But it is your DUTY to advise them of the shortcomings of the "BETA" before they agree to participate in it. Link to comment
Skreaper 0 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I'm in shock! Unbelivable! I hope you do not do the same with the desktop version of the program. Link to comment
Level 5 Stuhrer 252 Posted October 3, 2014 Author Level 5 Share Posted October 3, 2014 @Stuhrer: Thanks for posting this. Very helpful. @Evernote Release Team: This is exactly the kind of Release Notes you SHOULD have provided/displayed BEFORE the user signs up for the so-called BETA (which it is not). If you want to ask for help from your users, that's fine. But it is your DUTY to advise them of the shortcomings of the "BETA" before they agree to participate in it.Thank you for the compliment. I will maintain the list and I am curious whether it will get smaller over time. Link to comment
jfouellette 1 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Calm down people This is just a Beta you are asked to try out. It is missing a lot of the features we love on the original. Frankly I think it is more in Alpha stage than Beta, but nobody is twisting your arm. If you simply want to revert, go into your account settings summary and click on "Go back to old version" That's it. Personnaly I think it shows a lot of potenttial, especially on the speed side of things. Let's wait and see as more features are implemented. The point is to give suggestions and try to make it what we would want. Not get angry and pissed at devellopers. The above list of missing features should be made accessible when a member accepts the Beta version. Link to comment
malockin 14 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thank you for this list @StuhrerI would also add the following:Cannot view encrypted noted (single/double click brings up font style menu)Cannot open a note in a new window.The site starts with the new note screen, instead of a list of notes. Also, not exactly a "missing" feature, but I sometimes see duplicate notes. Sometimes a note appears twice, with different timestamps (I did not copy or even edit any of these notes, I just viewed them). Link to comment
Level 5 Stuhrer 252 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Level 5 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Calm down people This is just a Beta you are asked to try out. It is missing a lot of the features we love on the original. Frankly I think it is more in Alpha stage than Beta, but nobody is twisting your arm. If you simply want to revert, go into your account settings summary and click on "Go back to old version" That's it. Personnaly I think it shows a lot of potenttial, especially on the speed side of things. Let's wait and see as more features are implemented. The point is to give suggestions and try to make it what we would want. Not get angry and pissed at devellopers. The above list of missing features should be made accessible when a member accepts the Beta version. I am very calm. I can always switch to another service. But I have been using Evernote Web for my work for quite some time now and I love it. The way I organize my daily work has been greatly influenced by Evernote and you can imagine that this organization will be greatly influenced by a dramatic change of the tool and I think >20 missing features at the moment is quite dramatic. OK I still can use the old version but how long? I have no alternative to the Web version because I work under Linux. Shall I be optimistic and hope they will add the features my workflow depends on? Maybe, but I will closely observe the development of the new version and if there is an indication that the old version will be cancelled and the new not sufficiant for me I will have to stop using Evernote. Link to comment
Level 5 Stuhrer 252 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Level 5 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thank you for this list @Stuhrer I would also add the following:Cannot view encrypted noted (single/double click brings up font style menu)Cannot open a note in a new window.The site starts with the new note screen, instead of a list of notes.Also, not exactly a "missing" feature, but I sometimes see duplicate notes. Sometimes a note appears twice, with different timestamps (I did not copy or even edit any of these notes, I just viewed them). You are welcome and thank you for the additional information. I have added the first and last point. The third was already in my list. Link to comment
malockin 14 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thank you for this list @StuhrerI would also add the following:Cannot view encrypted noted (single/double click brings up font style menu)Cannot open a note in a new window.The site starts with the new note screen, instead of a list of notes.Also, not exactly a "missing" feature, but I sometimes see duplicate notes. Sometimes a note appears twice, with different timestamps (I did not copy or even edit any of these notes, I just viewed them). You are welcome and thank you for the additional information. I have added the first and last point. The third was already in my list. Thank you :-)I don't know how I missed the new window point in your list. Link to comment
Level 5 Stuhrer 252 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Level 5 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Thank you :-) I don't know how I missed the new window point in your list. Well, easy to miss one in so many Link to comment
HragH 5 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Thank you for thisAs many of your are, I am heavily dependent on evernote, but I really feel that since evernote 5 and onwards things have been going downhill.It seems the evernote team is very much out of touch with the variety of ways that people use their software, and they are channeling the interface into this ideal they have in mind where people only write stories and take pictures of coffee cups on wood tables, and that's all.There is this constant push of reducing functionality and cusomizability.The android version has been improving, but they recently tied snippet/list view option to the type of sort you're using.But windows evernote 5 was a big dissapointment to me, I felt such a relief when I went back to 4. And now the release of this half-baked beta for the web UI. Please... why these adventures? Just add color coding for notes and tags already! I promise I'll take more pictures of coffee cups. Link to comment
nanphan 138 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Hello everyone, We've added some customization options for the Notes List view options. This should help those of you that were used to having your client in List View. See more here: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/86394-web-client-beta-release-782015-customizing-the-note-list/ - Nancy Link to comment
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