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6 minutes ago, eric99 said:

How do you quickly create an encrypted pdf note on a mobile device? More specific, do you have a pdf editor app that can create a new note from scratch, add text and images and store it in an encrypted pdf that can be sent to evernote ?

Sorry, my process is to wait and do this on my Mac - it's built into the Mac OS

Others will better advise you on a mobile process.  There's actually two challenges: convert to PDF, then encrypyt PDF 

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3 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Sorry, my process is to wait and do this on my Mac - it's built into the Mac OS

Others will have to advise you on a mobile process.  There's actually two challenges: convert to PDF, then encrypyt PDF 

Thanks, what I'm really looking for is not a convertor from "evernote notes" to PDF, but another editor app in which I can fully create a new note, similar to the evernote editor. The encrypted pdf output can then be shared via email to evernote as an attachment.

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I have moved anything requiring encryption of notebooks or many notes within a notebook to iCloud Notes, which has a nice folder structure. Evernote is easier to use for me, but I can access Notes on all my devices/computers. It is what it is as long as Evernote is insensitive to my security/privacy. 

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1 minute ago, eric99 said:

another editor app in which I can fully create a new note, similar to the evernote editor.

My favourite app for note taking on my iPad is Notability.  While Editing, I store the file in its native format as an attachment; when finished, the app exports to pdf

>>The encrypted pdf output can then be shared via email to evernote as an attachment.

Thats why I like the pdf format - it's so portable

Also in my backups

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2 hours ago, Don0819 said:

I have moved anything requiring encryption of notebooks or many notes within a notebook to iCloud Notes, 

Apple Notes?

I'm an Apple fanboy - been using Notes from the beginning
There's been great improvements lately
Still, I don't consider it an Evernote replacement for me
- I like Evernote's tag/search organization
- Its important for me to have an exit strategy

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3 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Apple Notes?

Yep- I think of it as iCloud sorry for the confusion...

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100% agree with this. The ability to lock specific notebooks with a password or pin code would be a huge step forward. 

Has there been any feedback from Evernote or anybody regarding this?

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6 minutes ago, JonK1238 said:

100% agree with this. The ability to lock specific notebooks with a password or pin code would be a huge step forward. 

Has there been any feedback from Evernote or anybody regarding this?

There has been no indication from Evernote that they intend to implement this feature

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On 5-2-2017 at 7:04 PM, eric99 said:

Thanks, what I'm really looking for is not a convertor from "evernote notes" to PDF, but another editor app in which I can fully create a new note, similar to the evernote editor. The encrypted pdf output can then be shared with evernote as an attachment.

I Finally found XODO, a very nice editor for Android or IPhone, even better than the OneNote editor, AND completely platform neutral and portable because it saves to (encrypted) PDF!  This way it offers zero knowledge encryption if required. Today I use it to create encrypted pdf notes for evernote, however this tool has much more potential since it can already sync nicely with dropbox, supports online collaboration and much more.

XODO, in combination with dropbox, may become a real Evernote competitor if evernote refuses to provide better encryption!

http://www.xodo.com/

"... With Xodo, you can edit, annotate, sign, and share PDFs on desktop, mobile, and web. Xodo makes working with PDFs quick and easy, so you can get things done. ..."

Edit:  There is a Web version as well, but I have the impression that the Android App is more mature: for instance on Android you can create a note / document from scratch which is important if used as a replacement for the Evernote editor.

I just realized that you can easily import all your Evernote notes to XODO using https://www.exportnote.com/ and from then on, your notes are portable and zero-knowledge-encrypted if you like :-)

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1 hour ago, eric99 said:

I just realized that you can easily import all your Evernote notes to XODO using https://www.exportnote.com/

Can you tell us about the storage/organization features if XODO?

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41 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Can you tell us about the storage/organization features if XODO?

Since I just discovered it, I use it only to create encrypted notes from scratch for evernote. Since their editor is so powerfull, I don't need the evernote editor for complex notes.

I'm just saying that XODO may evolve to a serious competitor, but today, it already solves my most important issue: text and image compression into a standard format that will still be readable in a 100 years ;-)  (without evernote).

If you would like to use it as an evernote replacement, you may use regular folder organization in the native file system. I read that they have some search functionality inside the documents, but I don't think that it can replace all evernote features right now.

edit: I think https://www.exportnote.com/ organizes the imported evernote notes in folders as well

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16 minutes ago, eric99 said:

Since I just discovered it, I use it only to produce encrypted notes for evernote.

Well thanks for that.  I'll look into it for my iPad.  I don't think I'll be exporting all my Evernote notes

I do use the PDF format extensively, and make use of encrypted PDFs for confidential data.

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Hello!  I am a new evernote user and have been reading about encrypt single notes, but I cant seem to find any explanation as to how to apply this encryption, can anyone give me some guidance??? thanking you all in advance x

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Interesting find @eric99! Thanks for sharing. 

It has kick-butt reviews on the Google Play store, 4.5/5 stars with >62,000 reviews.

Easy notebook encryption is what we currently need for our school and individual PDF encryptions to export into EN is rather janky and unproductive. 

Xodo looks to be an alternative to PDF Pen Pro on the Mac, or PDF Expert on iOS, correct me if I'm wrong. A powerful PDF editor yes, but that seems to be about it? These two apps mentioned, and even Preview for Mac offers password encryption of PDF's. 

Thanks!

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This is interesting, I don't think this is the full solution we seek yet but maybe it's coming!

I saw this article today, saying Evernote's migration to Google Cloud Platform, and away from their own backend servers, is almost complete:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/09/evernote-google-cloud-platform/

You may see that one of the points in that article is it says the platform will supply "Encryption at rest", automatically. That feature is summarized here:

https://cloud.google.com/security/encryption-at-rest/

So I am not an expert on this, but it seems "Encryption at rest" gives Evernote the ability to have everything encrypted that they store on the Google servers, which is better than no encryption but it still doesn't give Evernote users the ability to have unique encryption protection with their own key. Someone would need to know the key(s) Evernote uses in order to access sensitive data, but a breach of Evernote security/keys would unlock all Evernote user data. So it's better (data is encrypted), but not really acceptable (because it's encrypted at the Evernote level not at the user level) - yet.

Looking further into Google Cloud Platform encryption at the link above, it does provide the ability for customer supplied keys, offered as a service that a customer like Evernote could use, without having to implement the backend support. So maybe the unannounced Evernote plan would be, once they complete the migration of their petabytes of data onto GCP, and get out from under the maintenance and support of their own servers, they can use what GCP offers to provide a much more robust encryption capability to Evernote users who need it? I can see how challenging it would be to build an encryption solution on their own proprietary back-end servers. That issue would go away with GCP.

Is this a reasonable theory?

It would be nice if Evernote would announce something so customers may decide to stop pulling sensitive data off Evernote - or at least be prepared to migrate back if the plan succeeds.

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3 hours ago, howdoogie said:

Xodo looks to be an alternative to PDF Pen Pro on the Mac, or PDF Expert on iOS, correct me if I'm wrong. A powerful PDF editor yes, but that seems to be about it? These two apps mentioned, and even Preview for Mac offers password encryption of PDF's. 

Thanks!

Well, if you can create an entirely new PDF file in these two apps, it's probably quit similar, but these are for Apple devices. I was looking for Android apps and finally found XODO which offers me zero-knowledge-encryption in a standard format. An encrypted pdf attachment in a note allows me to add extra unencrypted text / tags which is impossible if the notebook would be completely encrypted.

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48 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

I saw this article today, saying Evernote's migration to Google Cloud Platform, and away from their own backend servers, is almost complete:

The encryption at rest is a good feature but  not related to this discussion's request for Notebook encryption 

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15 hours ago, Antonia @ jj said:

Hello!  I am a new evernote user and have been reading about encrypt single notes, but I cant seem to find any explanation as to how to apply this encryption, can anyone give me some guidance??? thanking you all in advance x

@Antonia @ jj Select the text you'd like to have encrypted --> click Edit from menu --> select "Encrypt selected text"

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16 hours ago, Antonia @ jj said:

Hello!  I am a new evernote user and have been reading about encrypt single notes, but I cant seem to find any explanation as to how to apply this encryption, can anyone give me some guidance??? 

Text encryption is an Evernote feature on the Windows/Mac platforms.  The text can be decrypted for viewing on all platforms.

As per @Howdoogie, just select the text, right-click and select Encrypt

For more extensive encryption, you have to look to third party software.
Saferoom works at the note level.
I use encrypted PDFs

 

 

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24 minutes ago, DTLow said:

The encryption at rest is a good feature but  not related to this discussion's request for Notebook encryption 

To me it seems that it is related if it's an indication that Evernote moving to a new cloud platform will give us both notebook encryption and something even better, as some have mentioned the ability to have, for example, ALL my Evernote data encrypted using my own Evernote password as a key! If you read my entire post, I wondered if the reason we had not seen Notebook encryption was because of the difficulty in implementing robust back-end encryption, which Google Cloud now offers Evernote as a service. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

the reason we had not seen Notebook encryption was because of the difficulty in implementing robust back-end encryption

Evernote currently offers "robust back-end" encryption via the text encryption and I'm sure its feasible to extend this.

There are a various reasons for Evernote not implementing the feature.  

For now, you're going to have to use your own encryption resources, or switch to another product

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16 minutes ago, DTLow said:

For now, you're going to have to use your own encryption resources, or switch to another product

I was just trying to post some relevant news that may provide a solution in the future. I wasn't asking for advice, thanks. You can find my post earlier, I have resolved this issue for now in my own case. I thought the movement to the Google Cloud may be of interest to others as it's clearly offering the potential for a more robust solution than Evernote's own home-cooked backend, if Evernote is interested,

21 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Evernote currently offers "robust back-end" encryption via the text encryption and I'm sure its feasible to extend this.

How is that related to my comment about the possibilities of a richer encryption solution now that Evernote has moved to Google Cloud? They aren't even on that solution any more.

1 hour ago, DTLow said:

The encryption at rest is a good feature but  not related to this discussion's request for Notebook encryption 

Why are you on my case?

I can tell you, being a newbie here, posting some relevant news that could affect Evernote's encryption offering, and being chastised by an 'expert' on what is and is not suitable for posting here, is quite un-welcoming. I'll keep my thoughts to myself from now on. Thanks for setting me straight.

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30 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

Why are you on my case?

 

30 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

How is that related to my comment about the possibilities of a richer encryption solution now that Evernote has moved to Google Cloud?

I'm not "on your case" and I'm sorry if my comments indicated that

Its only my opinion, but I just didn't see the data server move as having any impact on front end encryption

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10 hours ago, Don0819 said:
9 hours ago, Don0819 said:

I was just trying to post some relevant news that may provide a solution in the future. I wasn't asking for advice, thanks. You can find my post earlier, I have resolved this issue for now in my own case. I thought the movement to the Google Cloud may be of interest to others as it's clearly offering the potential for a more robust solution than Evernote's own home-cooked backend, if Evernote is interested,

 

I  think there's no doubt this was a relevant comment, as it concerns data encryption on Evernote. I was definitely interested in it. Personally, I don't find the comments that "Evernote is not implementing this", etc. to be helpful, since this is a feature request thread and the point of people voting/posting is to request the feature to be added.

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17 minutes ago, kingdc11 said:

I  think there's no doubt this was a relevant comment, as it concerns data encryption on Evernote. I was definitely interested in it.

Discussions do go off topic and could be of interest - there's no problem with that

As to being relevent; again its just my opinion - I don't believe the data server move is relevent to the the front end encryption request

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On 4/3/2013 at 11:51 PM, EvernoteLover9 said:

Evernote already has the ability to encrypt single notes.

 

@EvernoteLover9, I didn't know this. How useful, thanks. Encrypting a whole notebook would also be wonderful.

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why is this such a difficult issue?  There must be a reason why Evernote will not do this. Is there an update of some kind Id like to store my passwords but when I open my app on my phone there is no log in required so anyone who has my phone and gets through the password can open up evernote and have access to everyone of my passwords!!! It's crazy!  Anyone know the status?

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On 2017-03-05 at 0:24 PM, jacquiagostinelli@gmail.co said:

when I open my app on my phone there is no log in

On my iPhone/iPad, if I log out after using Evernote, I have to log in with my password
If I close the Evernote window, I have to use a PIN/Fingerprint to access Evernote

Evernote has given no indication of planning to password protect Notebooks
I'm sure there are reasons why Evernote will not implement this feature

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Go here and register your vote: 

 

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If Evernote won't offer better security does anyone know of a similar product that does?  I will switch from my premium account immediately to gain confidence that my notes cannot be accessed if someone gets access to my computer or iPad.

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On 2017-04-17 at 9:37 AM, Hinds2020 said:

gain confidence that my notes cannot be accessed if someone gets access to my computer or iPad.

Have you tried password control on your computer and iPad; both at the computer and Evernote levels

 Evernote on the iPad also offers Passcode security; I control this using my fingerprint

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This would be an absolute huge update.

Is there any word from evernote on this?

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On 27/04/2017 at 9:59 AM, jz89 said:

This would be an absolute huge update.

Is there any word from evernote on this?

Evernote don't (usually) comment on whether or not they are adding a particular feature,  or (if they are) when it might be released.

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I would LOVE a passcode for individual notebooks. This would be great for sharing client information as well as having things like notebook one might have for tracking a weight loss with naked pics!! haha 

I've been wanting this for a while. Cmon evernote, this seems like an easy feature!

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Why is this not implemented yet?

It seems so painfully obvious that it would be a useful feature.

If Evernote wants to be a powerful ubiquitous platform, this capability should be added immediately.    Security is a major issue (if not the primary issue) in the digital world.... Evernote should be well aware of this and help users protect their valuable data instead of offering a weak "encrypt selected text" feature.

 

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Fully agree and adding my vote for this essential feature - we need password protection for each notebook, not the whole Evernote and only on iPad.

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This feature has been requested year after year. Any plans by Evernote to implement this simple feature?

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10 hours ago, gimbali said:

Any plans by Evernote to implement this simple feature?

Evernote has not indicated any plans to implement Password Protected Notebooks

Currently, they have only implemented encryption for text within a note

I'm not conviced this is a "simple".  
Examples: Evernote's ocr feature processes on the server; search indexing doesn't function on encrypted data

My solution is to  use encryption in file attachments 

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Not being able to encrypt an entire notebook makes it extremely difficult to keep a journal. You end up having to create 365 passwords per year. Trying to find things you've written in the past becomes more and more difficult.

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No, you can reuse the same password for mltiple notes. However, EN's encrypted document support remains primative in design, and the web client implementation does not allow editing (I believe is due to multiple bugs which haven't been fixed in classic web UI (I haven't tried the new web Ui recently, because it it is so unusable for me. I posted about that in a different post. I am hoping EN will provide a stable CRUD UI to enable 3rd parties to develop replacement UIs....

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7 hours ago, mprogram said:

You end up having to create 365 passwords per year.

It’s possible to use different passwords for each encryption, but the recommendation is to use to use the same password for each

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I have been using Evernote Premium for a few years and I love it.

Unfortunately, I need to agree with most of the forum in that encryption is essential, even if for a starter we had a strong password request just to open the application, both on our portable devices as well as on our computers.

Here's an idea: Why not merge Evernote with mSecure, which is fully encrypted. I use mSecure to store sensitive information but wish I could do this within Evernote.

Thanks, 

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33 minutes ago, Jimmy Mayer said:

even if for a starter we had a strong password request just to open the application, both on our portable devices as well as on our computers.

On my computers, Evernote requires a password to open the application

In addition, on my iPad, passcode or touchid is required when  switching apps

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bump.  This would be super easy to implement - like next to no time for the development team! Please add this feature!

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4 hours ago, jwc said:

This would be super easy to implement - like next to no time for the development team!

If Evernote had a paying user for ever post that declared “super easy”, “no time”; they would have the funds for a development team to implement such changes

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Whether it's super-easy or not -- it was requested a 16 months ago... and it should have been a feature from the start (or nearly so).

Security online -- especially when it comes to cloud services -- is a major concern.  This is not a new problem and it is only is getting worse.  Users shouldn't have to request this - its necessity is obvious.

 

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On 12/03/2016 at 1:58 AM, Joshow said:

I think it would be so useful to have the option to password protect per notebook, as opposed to just one password for the entire app.  What do you guys think??  Like I have a couple of notebooks that need passwords, but the majority do not.  And having to login everytime, especially when going back and forth between Evernote and other apps, slows things dramatically.  

I have more than 200 images in particular notebook, I want to transfer these photos to my staff laptop. How can I do, without letting him to see my other important notes”

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I have more than 200 images in particular notebook, I want to transfer these photos to my staff laptop. How can I do, without letting him to see my other important notes”

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Can only repeat what I've said before: Evernote's party - they get to choose the music.  If too many people complain and/ or leave because it's too loud or too country,  they may decide to change it.  Everyone's entitled to an opinion - but they decide whether or not to listen.  ^_^

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Yeah, that's something called "painfully obvious" -- not sure why you need to repeat it -- or write it in the first place. 

I don't think anyone has suggested that Evernote is not the final decision maker.  Why even bother wasting the springs on your keyboard with such a worthless contribution?

 

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15 hours ago, Vishal Gupta said:

I have more than 200 images in particular notebook, I want to transfer these photos to my staff laptop.

I would select the notes with the images; then Save Attachments (Mac platform)

There's also a share option if you have different Evernote accounts on each device

>>without letting him to see my other important notes

Not sure what this means

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On 28/08/2017 at 2:33 AM, SungkwanEJ said:

BUMP This should be a premium feature.

If it gets more than the current 14 votes it stands a chance of getting there...

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**Please, please please** add this functionality!! I'm a sole proprietor, and my work requires handling confidential client information. The ability to password protect individual notebooks is a critical feature. It seems surprising (to me, at least) that this functionality hasn't been added yet -- particularly for Premium users.

For the most part, I've found Evernote to be a great product. But the inability to secure individual notebooks is a serious shortcoming. (And protection at the notebook level is a bare minimum; ideally, I'd like the option of protecting individual notes).  Although switching to a different app would be a real pain, this will eventually be a make-or-break feature for me.

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On 2017-09-18 at 2:01 PM, Chads said:

And protection at the notebook level is a bare minimum; ideally, I'd like the option of protecting individual notes

Starting at the minimum, Evernote has an encryption feature for text within a note

My solution for protecting sensitive data is using encrypted attachments (pdfs, office/iwork documents ...)

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I vote this feature up. I would like to password-protect an entire notebook.

  • The "Encrypt text" feature is not useful to me as-is: it works only on text blocks.
  • Upon first access, I'm asked for the notebook password. Notes are then decrypted when I click on them. ("Pay as I go")
  • I'm OK to have encrypted notes excluded from search (i.e. not indexed)
  • I'm OK with having whole individual notes encrypted, instead—I'd encrypt the entire set of notes in one notebook with the same key
  • Don't care about government-grade encryption
  • I'm OK with losing the entire notebook, if I forget the password

 

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Bump. This feature would help me make my decision to move my personal diary into Evernote (and drop Day One and keep paying for EN)

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YES !   I need to password protect individual notebooks.  any progress or work-around on this idea ?  I need a super secure notebook somewhere  -  any ideas ? 

thanks    

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7 hours ago, mprogram said:

I hope it doesn't take a major security breach for this feature to get more attention.

Evernote has not indicated an interest in this feature (password protected notebooks)
Our data is encrypted-at-rest on the servers, but if you're concerned about a breach, you can encrypt your data
Evernote has a text encryption feature, and I encrypt my sensitive data using encrypted file attachments; pdfs, office/iworks, ...

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1 hour ago, jyc23 said:

Then have password protected notebooks be excluded from search unless you enter the password to unlock those notebooks.

Search might be a problem;

I practice encryption for my sensitive data.   My experience is that encryption prevents the data from being indexed for searching.  Also, encryption interferes with the OCR process

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On 10/23/2017 at 11:13 PM, DTLow said:

Search might be a problem;

I practice encryption for my sensitive data.   My experience is that encryption prevents the data from being indexed for searching.  Also, encryption interferes with the OCR process

That's fine. The use cases I'm imagining are to exclude things like Journal entries from appearing in main search results. Or maybe an even easier way to do what I'm trying to do would be to simply allow certain notebooks to be excluded from search results. As it stands, you can't even do something like -notebook:NotebookName. Yes, I realize you can create a tag to apply just to the notes you want to exclude, then exclude with -tag:NoSearch or whatever, but it would also be nice to simply have the ability to exclude it at a global level.

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19 hours ago, jyc23 said:

The use cases I'm imagining are to exclude things like Journal entries from appearing in main search results.

Workaround here is to put your journal notebooks in one stack and everything else in another.  Do searches on the other stack and no journal entries will appear.  Not particularly elegant but it would solve the narrow issue.

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1 hour ago, csihilling said:

Workaround here is to put your journal notebooks in one stack and everything else in another.  Do searches on the other stack and no journal entries will appear.  Not particularly elegant but it would solve the narrow issue.

Yeah, I considered that, but that would force me to undo my stack organization. And it wouldn't work at all on mobile, given that you can't limit searches by stack at all. Thank you for the idea, though, I appreciate it!

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Good catch on the mobile bit and no joy in unraveling a structure that works.  As I said, not a particularly elegant solution... :(

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38 minutes ago, jyc23 said:

And it wouldn't work at all on mobile, given that you can't limit searches by stack at all.

Search   stack:aaaaaa

>>but that would force me to undo my stack organization.

Right, you don't want to do that.  With the current environment, the best solution I see is to exclude by tag (-tag:) or text (-intitle:aaaaa)

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19 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Search   stack:aaaaaa

>>but that would force me to undo my stack organization.

Right, you don't want to do that.  With the current environment, the best solution I see is to exclude by tag (-tag:) or text (-intitle:aaaaa)

Well I’ll be damned, thanks for showing me how easy it is to search by stack on mobile. Had no idea! 

For now, I’m just tagging all of my Journal entries with a Journal tag and excluding them as you suggest. 

All that typing is cumbersome on mobile, but fortunately, I don’t need this level of filtering as much when I’m on mobile (mostly need it on desktop when I’m running searches with someone using the computer with me). 

Thank you!

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BUMP for Premium users. Encryption is definitely not the answer for many of us.

For iOS and other devices, primarily the desktop app, encyrption the way it stands does not work for me.

Family (wife) has access to my phone. Work has admin access to my desktop. Look for a simple password, but not mandatory, only if selected as "always" by premium user or special advanced mode (similar to Ctrl-V, Ctrl-Shift-V option for paste), etc.

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13 hours ago, cpufox said:

BUMP for Premium users. Encryption is definitely not the answer for many of us.

Why just Premium users? I would have thought encryption/password could be used in some form by any user

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Hi! I'd like to suggest that an entire notebook could be either encrypted or password protected (aside from the log-in or passcode to get into the app). I use Evernote for work and for personal. I like to keep a daily journal of personal thoughts and I'd love to do this in Evernote, but I've been relying on other password-protected apps. I like to leave my Evernote logged in, but that lack of security just worries me for keeping my personal journal entries in their own notebook.

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On 10/28/2017 at 4:06 PM, DTLow said:

Why just Premium users? I would have thought encryption/password could be used in some form by any user

See my comment above please.

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On 7/27/2017 at 3:51 PM, DTLow said:

If Evernote had a paying user for ever post that declared “super easy”, “no time”; they would have the funds for a development team to implement such changes

Apparently jwc removed his comment.  However your response is not a reason to close the topic or ignore the request.

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It's staggering that proper password protection / encryption is not available on a notebook basis. Evernote seems to focus on chucking in endless features which few people seem to use but simply disregarding what most of we paying customers have been requesting for years. The problem seems to be that they know that they don't have any real competition for many of us; OneNote, Zoho, etc. are just not in the same league. Unfortunately, the lack of real competition does Evernote no favours. I don't want  to shift but, honestly, if anyone else comes up with a proper alternative with the level of security we should not have to beg for, I'll be handing over my money to them.

 

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I totally can't understand why evernote reject to give such a basic feature. Maybe markdown support has some technical challenge, but an encryption protection,  almost all other similar software has this feature.  Since there is no password protection, It's very dangerous to write diary in evernote unless you want everyone in your apartment, your office to watch your privacy. And of course, it is also impossible to keep any personal information like SSN- number, bank account in Evernote.  

Sad. 

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14 hours ago, Labibi said:

And of course, it is also impossible to keep any personal information like SSN- number, bank account in Evernote.  

Evernote has a text encryption feature
I also use the native encryption of attachments; pdfs, office/iwork documents

>>Since there is no password protection, ...

My computer has password protection.  My Evernote account has password protection

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12 hours ago, Labibi said:

Since there is no password protection, It's very dangerous to write diary in evernote unless you want everyone in your apartment, your office to watch your privacy.

Your computer certainly has password protection. Is there some reason you don't use it?

What DTLow said about text encryption.

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2 minutes ago, jefito said:

Your computer certainly has password protection. Is there some reason you don't use it?

I don't know why Labibi don't use it, but for me there is one fact given: EN stores their data at Google!

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27 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Evernote has a text encryption feature
I also use the native encryption of attachments; pdfs, office/iwork documents

1. The text encryption feature is far away from a user friendly interface.

2. The native encryption from office or pdf documents is note secure.

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2 hours ago, Frank Blome said:

1. The text encryption feature is far away from a user friendly interface

Please explain.   I select the text, right click, and select Encrypt

>>2. The native encryption from office or pdf documents is not secure.

This is the first I've heard of this.   Please explain

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_password_protection

Microsoft Office password protection is a security feature to protect Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) documents with a user-provided password. As of Office 2007, this uses strong encryption; earlier versions used weaker systems and are not considered secure.

The 128-bit key AES protection employed in newer Office 2007–2010 remains secure.

 

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1 hour ago, Frank Blome said:

I don't know why Labibi don't use it,

Well, Labibi already said it:

13 hours ago, Labibi said:

Since there is no password protection, It's very dangerous to write diary in evernote unless you want everyone in your apartment, your office to watch your privacy.

*shrug*

 

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2 hours ago, Frank Blome said:

for me there is one fact given: EN stores their data at Google!

Yes, Evernote uses the Google Servers facilities.  Would you prefer a different storage service?  Evernote used to maintain their own data servers, but it wasn't cost effective

I don't know why this is a concern; fwiw  there is encryption-at-rest

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Some of these comments are silly. Password on your computer does nothing if the server side is breached, which does happen. Yes there is some encryption, the point was there is no notebook encryption, for times when encrypting on a note by note basis is impractical.

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9 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

Some of these comments are silly.   Password on your computer does nothing if the server side is breached, which does happen...

Evernote data on the server is encrypted-at-rest

I also use the firevault feature on my Mac; my disk is encrypted

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5 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Evernote data on the server is encrypted-at-rest

It is encrypted with a key known to Evernote to access their server data, it is not encrypted with a key specific to each user and known only to each user. Which means it's as good as nothing if an exploit that gains elevated privileges breaches their system. It happens all the time, by the way, and data encrypted on the server side did not preclude tons of personal data being stolen.

Users should have the ability to encrypt a notebook, not just a note or range of text, with their own key unknown to Evernote, which checking the original post is the subject of this thread. That way, user notebooks are protected even if there is an exploit/breach on the server side. BTW it's not a terribly innovative or new security function to request after all, hard to imagine why there is resistance (and why I keep notebooks of data encrypted uniquely with my own key using other products).

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1 hour ago, DTLow said:

Please explain.   I select the text, right click, and select Encrypt

>>2. The native encryption from office or pdf documents is not secure.

This is the first I've heard of this.   Please explain

Re. the user interface: Encryption should work seamlessly. And no interaction needed. This is a good interface.

And re. the office docs & pdf: I don't want to give you a step by step instruction but I can give you the hint to search at google for hacking any office document format. It's easy ;-)

 

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And one last comment re. Google: Since I don't trust that company in all regards of my data they just get unimportant stuff from me. Evernote used to be my storage place #1 for all kind of notes, contracts and other data. But right after I heard the announcement of Evernote moving to Google storage I immediately removed all Crown Jewels out of my notebooks.

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38 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

Users should have the ability to encrypt a notebook, not just a note or range of text, with their own key unknown to Evernote,

Just Notebook level; not the entire database?

I'm currently paying Evernote to OCR and index my data for searching.  I see a problem if the data is encrypted and Evernote doesn't know the key.  This is why I only encrypt selective sensitive data

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3 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Just Notebook level; not the entire database?

I'm currently paying Evernote to OCR and index my data for searching.  I see a problem if the data is encrypted and Evernote doesn't know the key

Oh come on now, I think you are just trying to start an argument, I suspect you know exactly how this works, but for some reason are trying to confuse people or get this off the topic. I am referring of course to the private key, known only to me, used to decrypt my data on the backend. Public-key encryption uses two keys for locking and opening up data: a public key that is shared with anyone, and a private key that stays with the sender of encrypted data. The private key is not stored on the server side, so if there is a breach maybe the public key is compromised but not my private key so my data is safe. Of course the entire database is encrypted, that's not secure enough and that's not what we are talking about.  And you absolutely do want Evernote not knowing the (private) key, but of course you knew that didn't you.

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14 minutes ago, Don0819 said:

a public key that is shared with anyone

I think you've gone off topic.  You started with an encryption key "unknown to Evernote" and now you're suggesting giving the public key to Evernote

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3 hours ago, Frank Blome said:

Since I don't trust that company in all regards of my data they just get unimportant stuff from me.

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.  :)
It does seem strange that you're using a service you don't trust

There has to be an element of trust.  I trust Evernote with my data  (but I encrypt my sensitive data)

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2 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean you're wrong.  It does seem strange that you're using a service you don't trust

There has to be an element of trust.  I trust Evernote with my data  (but I encrypt my sensitive data)

Thanks for calling me paranoid. I quit this discussion now.

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16 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I think you've gone off topic.  You started with an encryption key "unknown to Evernote" and now you're suggesting giving the public key to Evernote

Why are you in here just challenging everything everyone says? Why don't you just let posters ask for a feature and leave it at that? Off topic began when the original post was "I would like to see notebook level encryption" and you replied "Evernote data on the server is encrypted-at-rest", which was an inaccurate off topic remark , which is why I suggested some research into public-private key encryption. I am done arguing with you, since you are a "Guru" I can only assume for some reason you like to pick fights with people so I guess you win, Mr. Guru. Nice job deflecting the OP's issue. Do you you have anything to say about that other than 'everything is already encrypted'?

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7 minutes ago, Frank Blome said:

Thanks for calling me paranoid. I quit this discussion now.

It's what he does. Picks fights. I too will not be back, if anyone from Evernote reads this thread, I hope (a) they consider implementing notebook level encryption, the OP's suggestion, and (b) that Evernote realizes how toxic this thread become thanks to 'Gurus' who really didn't contribute anything to the original suggestion. Thanks for the help DTLow, it was truly beneficial. 

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