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I wish someone would just do something.  I just want the ability to password protect Evernote on my Mac exactly the way they do it on iOS.  You don't enter the password, you don't get to see the notes.  And give us the opportunity to set a timeout when the password will be required again.  What is so hard about this?  I'm not asking for encryption.  I just want someone to not be able to get in.  

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45 minutes ago, pirate727 said:

 I just want the ability to password protect Evernote on my Mac exactly the way they do it on iOS.

I'm not sure how you're doing this on IOS.

If you sign out of the app, you have to enter a password to sign in.

Most people (including myself) don't bother to sign out, and never have to sign in after the initial sign in.

>>And give us the opportunity to set a timeout when the password will be required again.

Although its not available in Evernote, there is a password timeout setting you can specify on the Mac

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1 hour ago, DTLow said:

If you sign out of the app, you have to enter a password to sign in.

I don't actually sign out of Evernote on iOS.  I just close the app.  When I reopen the app, it requires the 4 digit passcode I set up for it.  The latest version allows me to use Touch ID to get in.  I think this is a premium feature.  But it requests the password every time upon reopen.

>>Although its not available in Evernote, there is a password timeout setting you can specify on the Mac.

I guess I never even thought about the Mac (screen) password.  Suddenly it makes me want to make it more than just a 4 digit number.  LOL  But that would work.

<Question> If you change your password on the Evernote website, will it prevent access at the PC level until the correct password is entered, or will it still show you the local notes and just not sync?

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23 minutes ago, pirate727 said:

If you change your password on the Evernote website, will it prevent access at the PC level until the correct password is entered, or will it still show you the local notes and just not sync?

If you sign out, when signing back in, my understanding is that the Evernote will connect to the cloud severs to verify the password.  In fact, thats a downside to signing out - you need internet access to sign back in

>>When I reopen the app, it requires the 4 digit passcode I set up for it.
Got it - you're asking for the pin code feature on the Mac

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This is really not an optional feature. I have one Premium account that I use for Work and personal. Really don't want my Book of Shadows, novel and Status of repainting the family room on my work system. As has been stated a simple password is fine. 

But this has obviously been a featurerequested without action for a long time. Significant enough for me that I am considering moving to One Note.

 

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Dropbox just implemented the ability to add a pin or use your thumb to access it, which I'm super happy about as there are some files I'd prefer people not to see by accident (e.g. finances).  I would love it if Evernote implemented something as sweet and simple as that, accepting it's not encrypted.

I appreciate there is a list of priorities, however it's surprising that this hasn't been addressed as yet as I would imagine a significant proportion of the user base use Evernote for business and personal notes which are sensitive in nature.

Wholly agree with mkg, when he says "Again, not looking for any true security but rather protection from the most casual / opportunistic peeking which solves 99.9%+ of occurrences we care about. "

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1 hour ago, jacobsevernoteideas said:

GREAT IDEA...I have shared some notes with colleagues via my phone & thought it would be really nice to have some notes inaccessible...especially for a Premium User.

In the meantime, to make notes inaccessible, you can encrypt the text and pdf attachments.

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I use Evernote everyday for about 3 years, but there is something important that I am missing, what might be a reason to switch to another tool.
In these days of security issues/discussions Evernote should have this feature: password/pin protected notes or notebook.
I like to put passwords for websites etc as a reminder in Evernote or other secret stuff.
For now it is to risky..

If Evernote doesn't want to loose the race with free apps from Apple en Microsoft it should offer more benefits.

 

 

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On 4/16/2016 at 3:55 AM, dfo said:

I use Evernote everyday for about 3 years, but there is something important that I am missing, what might be a reason to switch to another tool.
In these days of security issues/discussions Evernote should have this feature: password/pin protected notes or notebook.
I like to put passwords for websites etc as a reminder in Evernote or other secret stuff.
For now it is to risky..

If Evernote doesn't want to loose the race with free apps from Apple en Microsoft it should offer more benefits.

 

 

Hey there @dfo, welcome to the Forums! Please check out this previous thread and add your vote, our development team regularly reviews product feedback submitted through the Evernote User Forum.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Totobob said:

I would like to have a notebook that is protected from display by a password.

I up-voted the feature request

Have you looked a encryption?

- Text within a note can be encrypted with a password

- pdf attachments can be encrypted with a password

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+1 for this. All well and good for encrypting text, but when I snap pictures of credit card and bank statements I want protection on these too. 

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Surprised this hasn't implemented yet.  Please add.  

I would like to keep a personal journal and store important and sensitive information in Evernote but do not feel comfortable without a password to protect a notebook in which this information would be stored. 

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Dear EN Team! I love EN!

I would really like to use EN for things that I wouldn't want anyone else to read, like a private journal. A bit of extra security hear would really open EN up to new territory for me. In this, Search should not show results when the notebook is closed/locked (in fact, search doesn't need to work outside in with this notebook at all).

 

Graciously,

Tyler

 
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Hi Tyler! Thanks for the feature idea. This is a request we've been getting from our users, so we're looking into what's required to get this off the ground. Thanks for your patience as we work towards this.

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Notebook encryption is the number 1 thing that is holding back people from using Evernote more. It should be raised in priority. 

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4 hours ago, BeneficialBob said:

Notebook encryption is the number 1 thing that is holding back people from using Evernote more. It should be raised in priority. 

I don't know if it is the number one thing, because people generally seem apathetic about security, with an attitude that security is impossible, so why bother? It's unfortunate, because even if encryption is not 100% security (nothing is), it is pretty effective.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/why_we_encrypt.html

Evernote knows more than we do about encryption, and even had a private meeting with Snowden in 2015 to talk about it, but to no avail. Snowden has a pretty authoratative voice when it comes to encryption.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/why_we_encrypt.html

I am not terribly optimistic about the possibilty of changing things at Evernote, because years of requesting it have not had any effect. But, if lots of people put pressure on Evernote, perhaps it will adopt better encryption. It fits their company philosophy (three data laws), it fits the product (put everything in it), and it certainly fits the trend among companies dealing with cloud security.

Speaking for myself, I use other apps for data I wouldn't be comfortable printing out and distributing at a party (Would you really want to share everything you clipped from the web? Is that anyone else's business?), so relatively little goes into my Evernote account anymore. I still recommend it to students and even did a class the other day on how to incorporate it into their studies, but with the warning that they be very careful about putting anything personal into it (actually, notes can be very personal as well, so they got a warning about that too).

 

 

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Well, if there is one thing it seems that many of us can agree upon, it is that Evernote should offer zero-key encryption on a per Notebook basis.

Having said that, one can become so obsessive about security, that they almost never do anything, go anywhere, share anything.  I suppose that is one approach, but not one for me.

While the use of, and benefit of, Evernote would be much improved by the encryption I mentioned above, it is still very useful now if one simply takes reasonable precautions:

  1. Before putting into Evernote, Use AES-256 encryption in PDF or zip (some zip tools now offer 256-AES) files for all information that is sensitive
  2. Don't put anything unencrypted into Evernote that could be harmful to you, or you would be embarrassed by, if obtained by a malicious third party.

For me, the pretty much covers everything I would want to put into Evernote.

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True. Evernote can still be useful (it is for me), but there are other convenient tools out there that have encryption, so it isn't a matter of never going anywhere or never doing anything -- you simply use something besides Evernote. In the case of Apple Notes, it just takes a touch of your fingerr to encrypt. I would say this is the worst outcome for Evernote, and I am sorry to see it, but it was a choice they made.

The good news is that Evernote has many, many more features than a lot of its competitors, and it does a lot of things better. If only they had encryption, I think it would all really come together into a perfect package. 

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On June 3, 2016 at 4:16 PM, GrumpyMonkey said:

I don't know if it is the number one thing, because people generally seem apathetic about security, with an attitude that security is impossible, so why bother?

I think you're right about the apathy.
For me, the information I need encrypted, is encrypted.  
There are many third party tools out there.
 
I'm not going to let the Evernote feature set prevent me from encryption,
In fact - I'm not sure I want my notes locked into Evernote because I want to control the encryption/decryption.

My preferred method is encrypted pdfs, using my Mac Preview feature.
Its not the strongest encryption, but its convienent and the resulting attachment is portable.

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I would have liked to open Evernote app on my Mac similarly as I do on my iOS devices (iPhone or iPad). On my iOS devices I enter a simple passcode. I am surprised that this is not available for Evernote on Mac, since a Mac can be shared by family members (wife, children, etc).

Solutions such as signing out of Evernote app is not so simple. You have to enter both username and password, together with a 2-step verification code. Constantly signing out and in would be too cumbersome. A simple 4-digit passcode would hold.

It is interesting that passcode is available in Evernote for iOS devices and these devices are password protected. You must unlock an iOS device in order to use it. However, a Mac is usually unlocked if it is shared among family members. If you share a computer with your family, the computer is "open" for use. My point is that it is more necessary to have a passcode for Evernote on desktop computers or laptops, than on iOS devices (or android devices).

Some has suggested to have a guest account or that each member of family has its own account. The problem is that some software, such as Adobe Creative Cloud, are pestering with notifications across the user accounts, and even prompt for passwords! My 10-year-old kid (on his account) was very confused by such pestering notifications. So, having multiple accounts is not an ideal solution for my needs. A simple passcode would hold.

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Hi

Or being able to mark some notebooks as private and a need to re-renter password before anything (search, context, tags etc.) is shown from the private notebooks.

Let me explain the reasoning/use case of why anyone would ever want this feature. I have a premium account and I have started keeping articles, notes in evernote. But before that I was using evernote for private stuff - diary. Now I want to use evernote during my work also to access the public stuff (articles etc. mentioned earlier) and add to them. Now I don't want to have my diary open at my work station. But I want my stuff to be at one place (the reason I am using evernote in the first place). So it would be great if I could mark some notebooks as private and nothing from them shows up till I manually go and unlock them using my password.

Currently the only way I could do that was by putting all the public stuff into a public notebook and sharing it with a dummy evernote account that I log in during my work.

 

My organization does not use evernote business and I am not even remotely interested in trying to convince anyone to start using evernote right now because of the following 

  1. we are primary linux based
  2. the web client is not good enough

So please don't suggest to go for Evernote business.

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Hi.  Totally understand your use case,  and I agree this could be useful for some technically savvy users.  But Evernote is about being useful to its 200M users - most (or at least a significant portion) of whom won't leave a workstation open for others to see,  or more probably won't have anyone who could see it.  I don't see this being developed in the near future.  You may be better off looking elsewhere for your note-taking software...

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Hi Aseem! Thanks for the idea. It's one we've heard before, but it's generally been directed at the desktop teams. As a workaround, I know there are extensions that shut down certain tabs if you haven't looked at it in a while - possibly it could be configured to password protect certain sites? Haven't looked into it, tbh

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...and actually you wouldn't have to go 'public' with a notebook to share it with your work account. If you opened another basic account and used that for private items,  share a notebook with your desktop account which you can open via a browser window if and when necessary.  Shut down the window and the notes are 'hidden' again..

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7 hours ago, gazumped said:

...and actually you wouldn't have to go 'public' with a notebook to share it with your work account. If you opened another basic account and used that for private items,  share a notebook with your desktop account which you can open via a browser window if and when necessary.  Shut down the window and the notes are 'hidden' again..

The problem with multi account approach is that it is messy because Evernote has weird limitations of not allowing me to add new tags to a shared notebook. And spreading things  around goes against the idea of evernote in the first place.

 

21 hours ago, scruggles said:

Hi Aseem! Thanks for the idea. It's one we've heard before, but it's generally been directed at the desktop teams. As a workaround, I know there are extensions that shut down certain tabs if you haven't looked at it in a while - possibly it could be configured to password protect certain sites? Haven't looked into it, tbh

Work around can be done. Multiple accounts is a work around that I am using. But that is not really convenient. Say I am sitting with a colleague and I we are working on something. Both of us looking at the screen. I need to look up something and I search. Now the search also turns up some notes that are in the private category. And the situation may turn odd.

Usually when I am at home and using my laptop I login into the premium account on the web. Now the first thing in the morning I have to remember that I need to logout premium account and login the basic/public account. If I forget and I open up the tab Evernote web turns up all notes by default in the order created. It usually contains private category and public category. 

Say I want someone's help and let someone sit on my workstation with me standing behind. They want to access the article that I was just reading. But hey I cannot let them do that as search can turn up things that I don't them to be able to see. 

I can go on with the use case basing on Evernote's motto "The more you keep in Evernote the better it gets". But lack of some features make it inconvenient. 

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21 hours ago, scruggles said:

Hi Aseem! Thanks for the idea. It's one we've heard before, but it's generally been directed at the desktop teams. As a workaround, I know there are extensions that shut down certain tabs if you haven't looked at it in a while - possibly it could be configured to password protect certain sites? Haven't looked into it, tbh

Also what do you "generally been directed at the desktop teams"? Didn't get that.

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I fully agree. I should be able to lock Evernote with a pass code if I want to. That should be an option in these security-conscious times we live in with every instance of Evernote I have. But it's not.

Evernote on my Android phone and tablet have a pass code. Evernote on my Mac laptop does not offer a pass code. Why? Yes, Evernote is for millions of users. Good. I'm happy it's successful and will be around in the future. I depend on Evernote for archiving important documents. Just make using a pass code optional for those of us who want to use it. For those who don't, they don't have to activate the pass code function. How hard is that?

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Hi.  This thread started out about Evernote Web,  and @scruggles meant (I think) that password requests are usually for the installed desktop product as @Waco Ed has confirmed.  Plus @Aseem Bansal started this thread by looking for some way to mark individual Notebooks (Notes?) "private" which doesn't necessarily say 'password' to me.  Evernote might be looking at other ways to satisfy the various requests they've had.

However I apologise for being probably too negative in my first response.  It's not a question of "just" making something available - there are thousands of requests in the pipeline for mindmapping / tag management / colors / etc etc.  I agreed that this is a good request - but Evernote have to prioritize and fit development work into what must by now be a crowded schedule of OS and device bug fixing and maintenance.  They'll put the most popular and potentially customer satisfying features early in the queue.  I don't know where this request will come,  but the more clicks it has in the top right left corner,  the more impact you'll have.  I added mine... but I'm not holding my breath.

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1 hour ago, gazumped said:

Hi.  This thread started out about Evernote Web,  and @scruggles meant (I think) that password requests are usually for the installed desktop product as @Waco Ed has confirmed.  Plus @Aseem Bansal started this thread by looking for some way to mark individual Notebooks (Notes?) "private" which doesn't necessarily say 'password' to me.  Evernote might be looking at other ways to satisfy the various requests they've had.

However I apologise for being probably too negative in my first response.  It's not a question of "just" making something available - there are thousands of requests in the pipeline for mindmapping / tag management / colors / etc etc.  I agreed that this is a good request - but Evernote have to prioritize and fit development work into what must by now be a crowded schedule of OS and device bug fixing and maintenance.  They'll put the most popular and potentially customer satisfying features early in the queue.  I don't know where this request will come,  but the more clicks it has in the top right left corner,  the more impact you'll have.  I added mine... but I'm not holding my breath.

I was thinking password but if they can make it private in some other way I am fine with that. I am not sure how that could work in an alternate way but I think I have added enough details for their product team to make an informed decision. I was thinking protection at the notebook level. 

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Still only one vote though - CLICK THE BOX people!!

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The lack of this feature is why I've pretty much abandoned Evernote.  If they implemented simple password protection on the note level, I'd gladly come back.  

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On 7/23/2016 at 5:58 AM, Waco Ed said:

I fully agree. I should be able to lock Evernote with a pass code if I want to. That should be an option in these security-conscious times we live in with every instance of Evernote I have. But it's not.

Evernote on my Android phone and tablet have a pass code. Evernote on my Mac laptop does not offer a pass code. Why? Yes, Evernote is for millions of users. Good. I'm happy it's successful and will be around in the future. I depend on Evernote for archiving important documents. Just make using a pass code optional for those of us who want to use it. For those who don't, they don't have to activate the pass code function. How hard is that?

I hope you upvoted the thread. It would help if people actually upvote this.

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I use Evernote a lot. But for any sensitive information, I store it in local notebooks. I would never trust Evernote with it given the technology deployed currently. Between hackers, the government, and court orders, I'd say Evernote can't win, although they may do a great job fighting off the hordes.

After personal data is leaked (by whatever means), its too late for an apology, etc.

However there are times when I am not where my PC with the local notebooks is located. And I wish I had access. Given the relative insecurity of Evernote, Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. I've been considering two options:

  • an account with a service like SpiderOak, I would still keep my local notebooks in Evernote, but have them regularly backed up to SpiderOak. Then if I needed when traveling, I'd have Spideroak access on my mobile PC, along with the encryption key, and could download and view Evernote on my mobile PC.
  • Try to use Boxcryptor and move my Local Notebook directory onto an encrypted folder on that device. Boxcryptor would be linked to my Dropbox.

Has anyone either tried either of these or have any feedback on the ideas?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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+1 

I have been using Evernote for years now as a Premium customer and have over 4,000 personal notes. I recently led an effort to get my whole team of 50 on Evernote Business at work and we love most of its features but this lack of password protection and encryption is its most glaring weakness. It also seems like a fairly easy-to-implement feature and one that is widely requested and available from competing platforms. Not sure why Evernote has not prioritized this. 

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I totally understand that Evernote needs to make money but that's the strange thing! -  With apple offering passcode protected notes for free there is no way I'm going to pay for an upgrade to Evernote Premium. With the most recent (and reasonable) restriction to only having Evernote Basic sync with two devices I'm really only staying for historical reasons and laziness but I'm much more likely to leave than upgrade. Perhaps that's the Evernote strategy for weeding out freebie users? 

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+1.   I googled how to do this assuming that I just didn't know how.  Really kind of shocked.  Like others, I don't need a separate encrypted store, just the ability to password protect a notebook, or even a stack.  Just like you can a file folder . 

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Adding my voice to the chorus of support for basic note password protection and, perhaps later, true encryption.  The notion that this hampers the search and OCR features of the app is irrelevant to me -- I simply wouldn't expect either to touch a password-protected note.  Seriously, this is a very simple, long-standing ask and the Evernote silence round the matter is all but deafening.  Regards,

Mark D.

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On 02/09/2016 at 8:37 PM, Mark Drury said:

Adding my voice to the chorus of support for basic note password protection and, perhaps later, true encryption.  The notion that this hampers the search and OCR features of the app is irrelevant to me -- I simply wouldn't expect either to touch a password-protected note.  Seriously, this is a very simple, long-standing ask and the Evernote silence round the matter is all but deafening.  Regards,

Mark D.

the Evernote silence around this,  and every other development issue is standard practice.  Doesn't mean they haven't heard your request,  or that they agree or disagree with the need.  Just that they don't (usually) answer questions like this.  Ever. <_<

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I agree.  Password protection for Notebooks, or even for the whole app (like the ios version) will be more than welcome.

I still can't understand why this feature isn't yet in this app.

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Would love this feature, surprised it is not in here yet for Premium members at least, with the free lock feature on iPhone now.

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Hi. Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't waste time with cosmetic protections (if someone has access to your user account on the computer, they can easily find everything in Evernote without even opening the app). I'd recommend creating a separate user account on your computer. You can switch users in just one or two seconds. It's fast, convenient, secure, and already built into your computer :)

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Maybe we need to define what we expect to happen with a "locked" notebook.

1. We already have private vs public settings.

2. We have the ability to segregate information into separate notebooks.

3. We have the ability to encrypt text strings within notes.

What would you expect with a locked notebook?

a. password-protected access for viewing. Password needed to lock and unlock? 

b. Encryption of the contents of the notebook? ( I wouldn't need this. For passwords, etc, I use another program)

c. Hiding contents of the notebook from searches? (This is the feature that I would like the most. I have some PDFs of contract docs, for example.  or some text notes on company policy, etc.  Evernote is a good place for them, but I don't want them to show up in a search).

d. Would a locked note (as opposed to a locked notebook) be sufficient?

 

 

How about you? We're more likely to get a feature like this if we say exactly what it is that we want.

 

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My request is simple - I use Evernote for lots of things - and several people share the devices I have evernote on.   I would like to be able to password protect certain notebooks (journal, financial info, etc).  I also like the idea of excluding some items from search. 

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Also the option to archive some notebooks, keep online only - encrypted and safe.

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On 2016-09-12 at 4:29 AM, GrumpyMonkey said:

Hi. Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't waste time with cosmetic protections (if someone has access to your user account on the computer, they can easily find everything in Evernote without even opening the app). I'd recommend creating a separate user account on your computer. You can switch users in just one or two seconds. It's fast, convenient, secure, and already built into your computer :)

Actually, that sounds better than it works.  I had a separate account for work stuff and for the past year switching between two accounts didn't work (folks at evernote never found what causes the problem). I gave up the 2nd account in frustration. Even if it did work I'm not sure I would go back to two accounts. There is something nice about knowing everything is in one place.

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Like other users, I too am concerned about encryption of personal content in the journals.  I have been an avid Evernote user, but may switch to another service for this reason.  I have not found one with the features of Evernote or Onenote...

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On 2016-11-27 at 9:04 PM, cpage said:

Like other users, I too am concerned about encryption of personal content in the journals.  I have been an avid Evernote user, but may switch to another service for this reason.  I have not found one with the features of Evernote or Onenote...

Add your vote to the request; voting buttons are in the upper left corner of the discussion

Personally, I encrypt any of my sensitive data
Evernote has a text encryption feature, and I use encrypted pdfs

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Please add the ability to add a password or another form of authentication per-note or per-notebook in order to protect sensitive/personal information.

 

Thanks.

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Until this gets implemented, be aware of the text encryption feature.

I also use encrypted PDF attachments

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Both of these are frequently requested, and feature requests for both already exist. I'd suggest doing a forum search, and adding your vote there, rather than making new requests.

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On 29-11-2016 at 11:31 PM, DTLow said:

Until this gets implemented, be aware of the text encryption feature.

I also use encrypted PDF attachments

I just discovered a great free open source scanner PDF tool: NAPS2  https://www.naps2.com/

"...Scan with a single click. Easily scan with your chosen settings, or set up multiple profiles for different devices and configurations. Once you've finished scanning, you can save, email, or print with only a couple clicks. Save to PDF, TIFF, JPEG, PNG, or other file types

..."

You can scan your documents and then save them as a searchable encrypted pdf file.  You can also import already scanned documents and save or merge them back into pdf.

This is a perfect fit in my evernote workflow!

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2 minutes ago, eric99 said:

I just discovered a great free open source scanner PDF tool: NAPS2  https://www.naps2.com/

"...Scan with a single click. Easily scan with your chosen settings, or set up multiple profiles for different devices and configurations. Once you've finished scanning, you can save, email, or print with only a couple clicks. Save to PDF, TIFF, JPEG, PNG, or other file types

..."

You can scan your documents and then save them as a searchable encrypted pdf file.  You can also import already scanned documents and save or merge them back into pdf.

This is a perfect fit in my evernote workflow!

Clarification: although encrypted search technology already exists, you can not search inside an encrypted pdf file

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3 hours ago, eric99 said:

Clarification: although encrypted search technology already exists, you can not search inside an encrypted pdf file

Thats the downside to encryption - it blocks the search feature

It would be even serious if the entire notebook was encrypted

I'm adding enough details in the title, and text in the note so there is data for the search

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I would definitely go Premium if EN had password-protected individual Notebooks.

I'm kind of surprised that the EN team has not introduced this feature yet.

- Jeff

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Strong encryption at the notebook level (eg, all note content, and all note metadata (eg title, tags, creation date, change history) with no escrowing of keys, and the ability to perform rich-text-editing of the contents of an encrypted note (which includes encryption of attachments to the note) on any device, is a requirement before I will pay for Evernote.

I'll use the free basic account lightly until then, but I won't go "all in" with Evernote until this is implemented.

As a software developer who has implemented all the parts of encrypted note store functionality which I envision, I assure you there is no rocket-science to doing this, these days. You want one or more seasoned developers to do it, but it is certainly do-able.

To do it properly (given the current feature sets), EN will need to implement both server-side crypto (for EN Web and EN APIs), and client-side-only crypto (for tin-foil hats like me who are annoyed at the fact that GCHQ and NSA have staff and/or data-feeds and/or secret letters which enable them to access anything stored in the major cloud services, and are concerned about APT threats to corporate data -- such as what has recently been disclosed about Russia's and WikiLeak's actions in the US elections.

To do it properly, sync-ing and change history and search indexing should be enhanced to work properly with ciphertext (post-encryption) as well as plain-text (unencrypted) content.

Encryption does not mean you can't have searchability -- EN would need to index the unencrypted text, then encrypt the resulting search indices with the appropriate encryption key.  Then, in order to search, the search engine would need to decrypt the indices which it can using the password(s) which the user has provided, in order to include those indexed values in the search process.  This might not scale to be able search millions of users' databases in a single query -- which is actually quite desirable from my perspective -- but it should scale quite comfortably for 1 to 1000 users/passwords over 1 to 1000 notebooks.

Modern mid-to-high-end cell phones have enough RAM and enough CPU to provide searching of client-side-encrypted notebooks (eg, keys never supplied to servers); I can't speak for others, but for me, only indexing of note metadata and note text would be good enough (eg, no client-side searching of attachments such as PDFs).

Finally, client-side encryption does not mean you can't share encrypted documents on the server, or do server-side merging of encrypted changes from multiple people.  To support these features you'd need to use public key-encryption, and it does mean you'd need to canonicalize the pasted-in HTML which you store or create, since the unit of merging and change history recording would need to match the unit of encryption -- which I suggest would be a complete HTML tag and its nested children, for simplicity.

If I were designing the feature set, I would make the recording in the change history of who initiated certain changes and when they were done, a configurable feature at the notebook level, to provide a degree of plausible deniability. You would need to record change sequence, but you should allow updates to be persisted anonymously.

Implementing server-side key-escrow/storage for those users who want it (eg, corporations) is not a big deal either.  For those who don't want it, it should be possible to prove by inspection, that the encryption key is not hidden in any files which are synced to the server, and is never sent to the servers using an API, unless a user initiates such a transfer explicitly, and is never stored on disk locally.

You should allow a user to use different keys for different documents (and even different sections of a single document) within an encrypted notebook.  

In summary, I believe the problems which need to be solved are well understood, are tractable, and do not involve any compromise of the current feature set.  So EN, please just do it!

PS: I encourage you to crowd-source a detailed technical requirements spec, and the priority of various features, in order to ensure you don't miss critical security details, and that you implement features in the correct order to avoid serious gotchas along the way.   If you go this way, I would be interested in participating.

 

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there is not necessarily a loss in features like search. devonthink and voodoopad have had full database zero-knowledge encryption and searching for a while now (years?). if evernote wanted to do it, they could. 

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I'm thinking about returning to Evernote, but concerns about the privacy of my personal data is what's keeping me using Apple Notes instead. If Evernote allowed us to make encrypted notebooks, I'd become a paying customer immediately.

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I fully agree with GrumpyMonkey but I see even one more fact: If you see 90 votes for this feature and assuming that only every tenth user using the votes feature, we know this is an important and very often asked request. Now it is not on our side to solve it technically. EN has many of talented developers and they can do a good job - and maybe they have even started working on that. But what I really miss here - on this 18 pages discussion: A clear statement from EN. Do they want to do this or not - or whatsoever.

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1 hour ago, Frank Blome said:

A clear statement from EN. Do they want to do this or not - or whatsoever.

That is such an important comment. I miss the good old days when Evernote employees were permitted to answer and explain why a decision was made or not made.

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Odd to see that such a requested feature still has not been implemented after a few years of it being requested.

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2 hours ago, jbenson2 said:

That is such an important comment. I miss the good old days when Evernote employees were permitted to answer and explain why a decision was made or not made.

Yup. I've completely given up patience with Evernote, and really kept the notifications to this thread active to see if/how long it would take to finally implement something.

As the saying goes; the silence is deafening.

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20 hours ago, GrumpyMonkey said:

if evernote wanted to do it, they could

This is the takeaway, as far as I'm concerned.

That may change with the new leadership team, but when I look at Evernote, I see a lot of similarities with GMail (in terms of their approaches to organization and search), and I don't believe that GMail has password protected folders either (for reference, see this, this, this, etc.). Not conclusive, but telling, to my mind. After digging a bit, I also came up with this Evernote forum thread that seems to show the flavor of Evernote's thinking on the topic, as espoused by their then-CTO Dave Engberg. (note: i didn't read past the first two (of 32!) thread pages). I don't see that that's changed.

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+1 for extending encryption to a Notebook basis.

As a minimum Notebook encryption...

But don't stop there... client-side Full account encryption through the app. No problem if web access is useless.

And speaking of client-side, enable the client to optionally search encrypted content using the local key (yes, I said "local"... I don't want to pass my key to your servers).

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Adding response #443. Please implement this feature. It's almost 2017, we shouldn't need to be having a discussion anymore about whether encryption is a good idea.

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As much as I would like to see note or notebook level encryption, I have given up hope, at least for the foreseeable future.  Evernote's Director of Security has come right out and said they have no plans for that right now and with their emphasis on machine learning, I would think they need access to unencrypted data.  They seem like opposing visions, and unfortunately for me, they are focusing on the one that I have zero interest in.

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+1 for having encryption for any Notebooks of my choosing. Let it be MY decision that search may not work for a secured Notebook. Geez, I can certainly work around that obstacle. Without this feature I will eventually have to leave you. 

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I absolutely want much stronger encryption options in Evernote.  I already have started using other applications now because of this issue like many other people in this thread.  I do not want Evernote employees or anyone else reading my notes.  This should be a major priority to implement - especially after the privacy policy debacle this week.

"Machine Learning" should not absolutely not be the focus of future development.  That is so absurd, I can't even believe some people at Evernote think that is a good idea.  Evernote really needs to get back on track.  I believe Evernote is out of touch with regard to what customers want and need.

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On 12/12/2016 at 10:47 AM, jefito said:

This is the takeaway, as far as I'm concerned.

That may change with the new leadership team, but when I look at Evernote, I see a lot of similarities with GMail (in terms of their approaches to organization and search), and I don't believe that GMail has password protected folders either (for reference, see this, this, this, etc.). Not conclusive, but telling, to my mind. After digging a bit, I also came up with this Evernote forum thread that seems to show the flavor of Evernote's thinking on the topic, as espoused by their then-CTO Dave Engberg. (note: i didn't read past the first two (of 32!) thread pages). I don't see that that's changed.

I'm hoping to get Evernote to commit to something meaningful by posting some thoughts here. Evernote should recognize that their product is not equivalent to Google's, and they should not try to become Google. See here:

 

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EN should offer a encryption like Apple on iPhones. Even Apple can't read their customers data.

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Dear Evernote,

I would like to request, as many have, one essential feature to the Evernote desktop app for Mac. 

I teach an English and Chinese Language class for a college where we require all of our 100+ students to utilize MacBooks for classroom learning of languages.

The ability to password lock notebooks, which is one layer more specific than what is available on the iPhone and iPad (eg. app lock), is essential in order for us to continue using the note taking app as our teaching tool. Individual notebook locking allows us to leave laptops logged in with Evernote running permanently in the background while still providing beginner, intermediate, and advanced student access to topic specific notebooks without having to lock down individual notes or entire laptops. 

Please introduce this feature in an update to Evernote for MacBooks or our institution will be forced to change our Required Student Tools and Materials list to a note taking app which enables such functions.

Sincerely,

Howie D.

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Dear Evernote,

I would like to request as many have, one essential feature to the Evernote desktop app for Mac. 

I teach an English and Chinese Language class for a college where we require all of our 100+ students to utilize MacBooks for classroom learning of languages.

The ability to password lock notebooks, which is one layer more specific than what is available on the iPhone and iPad (eg. app lock), is essential in order for us to continue using the note taking app as our teaching tool. Individual notebook locking allows us to leave laptops logged in with Evernote running permanently in the background while still limiting or providing control over beginner, intermediate, and advanced student access to topic specific notebooks without having to lock down individual notes or entire laptops. 

Please introduce this feature in an update to Evernote for MacBooks or our institution will be forced to change our Required Student Tools and Materials list to a note taking app which enables such functions.

Sincerely,

Howie D.

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I could not agree more, Microsoft OneNote has this function so why can't we do this in EverNote. This feature unfortunately is a deal breaker for me and it means we will not be looking to recommend this program to our clients. Online security is important and we need to be able to maintain the privacy of individual notebooks. Please Evernote I have recently purchased your premium plan and have so far been impressed with its offerings however this needs to be implemented to ensure that your product is superior to others similar to it on the market.

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I think this combined with selective sync (desktop) is the way to go. 

I would like some notebooks, online only - locked and sealed. 

Definitely useful

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I love Evernote but I am going to start looking for a replacement unless I can encrypt my notebooks. Search, etc should happen on device only.

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I moved about 250 notes out of Evernote about weeks ago that I was not comfortable with being stored in Evernote without encryption - and it was too many to go through one by one and encrypt. They were all in one notebook.

Where I am keeping them is not as nice as Evernote, I would move them back if encryption was taken more seriously by Evernote. But not for now.

I also saw I got a big iOS update to Evernote today, I quickly scanned the note to see if anything was done with encryption - alas no. Evernote is more focused on adding features that can be blogged about than corrected an egregious security oversight in its lack of true encryption support.

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16 hours ago, Don0819 said:

They were all in one notebook.

If you're on the Windows/Mac platform, you could use a Local Notebook

Note: You should backup local notebooks

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54 minutes ago, DTLow said:

If you're on the Windows/Mac platform, you could use a Local Notebook

Note: You should backup local notebooks

Thanks DTLow, but these notes I use often so I need them syncing across my devices. I thought about whether local would work...

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Whoa whoa whoa, it's not encrypted? 

And no passworded notebooks? 

This is what I don't get. What are Evernote doing with their time / these updates? 

 

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4 hours ago, bongobong said:

Whoa whoa whoa, it's not encrypted? 

And no passworded notebooks? 

Correct - my solution has been to encrypt the specific data I need secure

>>This is what I don't get. What are Evernote doing with their time / these updates? 
Evernote has not given any indication of plans for encrypting notebooks
If you check release notes, you can find what they've been focusing on

 

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I would also like to encrypt the notebooks in Evernote. Where we should vote/yell/write to, to make sure that somebody would take this seriously?

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13 hours ago, ThomasKolasa said:

Where we should vote/yell/write to, to make sure that somebody would take this seriously?

Voting buttons are in the upper left corner of the discussion  Screen Shot 2017-01-29 at 6.34.33 AM.png

Evernote is aware of the request, but so far has decided to not implement password protected/encrypted notebooks

 

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PLEASE EVERNOTE IMPLEMENT PASSCODE PROTECTED INDIVIDUAL NOTEBOOKS ON MAC EVERNOTE!! 

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It could be a great feature.....and will help us all to get more sensitive info into our notebooks....

 

 

Hope will be soon implemented

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2 hours ago, ColdGin said:

It could be a great feature.....and will help us all to get more sensitive info into our notebooks....
Hope will be soon implemented

I've seen no indication Evernote is interested in implementing encryption beyond text within notes

I'd recommend looking to alternate methods
I use encrypted pdfs

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1 hour ago, DTLow said:

I've seen no indication Evernote is interested in implementing encryption beyond text within notes

I'd recommend looking to alternate methods
I use encrypted pdfs

How do you quickly create an encrypted pdf note on a mobile device? More specific, do you have a pdf editor app that can create a new note from scratch, add text and images and store it in an encrypted pdf that can be sent to evernote ?

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6 minutes ago, eric99 said:

How do you quickly create an encrypted pdf note on a mobile device? More specific, do you have a pdf editor app that can create a new note from scratch, add text and images and store it in an encrypted pdf that can be sent to evernote ?

Sorry, my process is to wait and do this on my Mac - it's built into the Mac OS

Others will better advise you on a mobile process.  There's actually two challenges: convert to PDF, then encrypyt PDF 

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