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Someone at this forum suggested 'Workflowy' and soon I came to really love it. It is perfect for bullet point text writing and, of course, it has text collapse feature. You don't need to struggle with lots of document or scrolling long bullet point list any more. 

Currently, I mostly use Workflowy for bullet point writing and Evernote is just for scraping web pages or media things.. 

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As a religious user of outlines, I can say that Cloud Outliner doesn't cut it.  It makes assumptions on what level you want the entry to be when you move it - which is usually (in my case) wrong.  There's a number of other usability issues that I could point out.  Bottom line - you're not missing much.  When I do an outline in Evernote, I end up using copy/paste to move stuff around, and living without the ability to collapse levels.

The best outliner remains an ancient abandonware Windows outliner called Ecco.  The core 10% of its outline features embedded within Evernote would be absolutely killer.

I'll upvote the outline feature, though.

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OMG Ecco was the best. There is still nothing that comes close. Think about how good Evernote could become if it had the outlining and intranote relationship ideas from it.

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+1.  An outline for me acts almost as a collaborator.  You can dump down the ideas free flow, see patterns and organize:

  • Collapse allows for being able to deal with many pages of content in a single view
  • Properly implemented drag/drop allows for quick organization:
    • Dragging to a collapsed entry should open the entry, and allow placement anywhere within the entry (many outliners get this wrong)
    • Dragging should be allowed both in vertical and horizontal directions at the same time.  When I move an entry, I may want to promote/demote the entry (many outliners get it wrong)
  • It's nice to be able to embed other data types within the outline (pictures, etc), but, isn't mandatory, IMO
  • It would not be a requirement for outline to allow for dragging anywhere within a doc.  If it was constrained to a contiguous list, that would meet 90% of my requirements.  To move outside of the list, there's copy/paste.
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Ecco, wow, a blast from the past.  When did Ecco fade away?

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Most outline zealots seem to really like Workflowy.

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44 minutes ago, j0001s said:

+1.  An outline for me acts almost as a collaborator.  You can dump down the ideas free flow, see patterns and organize...

 

2 minutes ago, csihilling said:

Most outline zealots seem to really like Workflowy.

I'm +1 on the benefits of an outline and I'll achieve those benefits without dumping Evernote

Yes, the outline feature is not offered by the Evernote editor (hence this request), but I have no problem using alternate editors. For example Word/Pages attachments work well in EN

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+1 for collapsible outlines.

At least in the Windows sub-forum, this is far and away the most upvoted feature request, with nearly 3x as many votes as the second most upvoted request. Dunno where this feature request rates in the Mac sub-forum - probably a distant runner-up to "more white space and less content". :P

Collapsible outlines would also capture some of the benefits of another popular feature request - internal note links.

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18 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I'm +1 on the benefits of an outline and I'll achieve those benefits without dumping Evernote

10-4.  Not much of an outliner myself, just offering an option if one absolutely has to have it.

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11 minutes ago, DTLow said:

 

I'm +1 on the benefits of an outline and I'll achieve those benefits without dumping Evernote

Yes, the outline feature is not offered by the Evernote editor (hence this request), but I have no problem using alternate editors. For example Word/Pages attachments work well in EN

The difference with my workflow is that I always have a multi-tab outliner open (the OPs aforementioned Ecco Pro).  A thought crosses my mind on any one of the many projects that I'm working on, I flip to that tab and write it in.  Then, when I'm working dedicated on the project, I go and organize.  The one-doc/one-outline approach of Word/Pages doesn't cut it for me, and I've always have found the Word/Pages outline features clunky.

So, Evernote is SO close to meeting my workflow model, and in fact could better it, being able to really quickly open up the right Note (equivalent to my tabs, without the tab limitation) as well as all the other great organization features that Evernote brings to the table.

I know us outliner junkies are not that common.  I would dearly love to move away from Ecco, a program that was Windows only, follows none of the current GUI standards, and was abandoned in 1996.  (BTW, I'm on a Mac, and run Windows under Parallels just so I can still run Ecco...)  But I have never found anything better for outlining.  Evernote could be.

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1 hour ago, j0001s said:

The difference with my workflow is that I always have a multi-tab outliner open (the OPs aforementioned Ecco Pro).

omg  I was an Ecco fan back in the day, I have fond memories of it.  But when it died I gave it a decent burial and moved on. 

I don't think Evernote, or this request in the same tool class as Ecco

Thanks for the recollection though, even if your use seems Norman Bates-ish

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On 2/23/2017 at 2:25 PM, j0001s said:

I always have a multi-tab outliner open (the OPs aforementioned Ecco Pro)

It's amazing and a testimony to ECCO's brilliance that some folks are still using it almost 20 years after its death! I wrote ECCO's Correspondence Manager and Mail Merge Wizard modules and did ECCO training and consulting with many companies.  It still has no equal as an organizational tool IMO.  I took on the project of creating an ECCO-like outlining version of Evernote, TuskTools Treeliner, but alas there just wasn't sufficient demand to release it as a product.

I would also like collapsible outlines in Evernote, but that would not bring it close to ECCO!

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3 years later and now im looking for this!

Ive kind of found a work around (i dont know if this has been said already) but i found that encrypting selected text bunches it up into a single line with dots over it

Ive encrypted my Chapter 1 Summary notes and put a simple password like "open". Not checking "remember password" means that you can just click out of the note and back into it and its collapsed! Hope this helped!

Having two chapter summaries and lecture notes in the one note is annoying but i have to have it like that otherwise it ruins my system!  Hopefully the simpler hide/show box will be implemented soon.

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+1 for text folding/collapse feature. Something like omnioutliner or folding text maybe?

Would be good if we can define the top and bottom area to fold.

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I've pretty much given up hope, but I'll add my vote again here for outlining as part of Evernote.

It was a sad day when I had to move on from Ecco.....

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Moved to Feature Request forum so that you can now vote on it...

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needed!  Also, just general ability to create collapsible sections, images down to thumbnails (hover zoom?). all interiors of which to be searchable.  Make ORGANIZATION much easier and effective!

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+1 for collapsible sections.  Seems like this has been going on since 2011......  This was a great feature in Lotus Notes when I worked at IBM. I would not call it feature creep.

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This has been going on for years. But you all know that....

After getting the occasional notification that someone else wants this feature, I decided to log on here today and poke around a bit. I suspected that this request has been duplicated in the windows area, mac, iphone, eniac, you name it. I was wanting to find out the definitive way to get through to Evernote....

I did notice that Evernote has created a new area for broad feature requests. Ones that aren't platform specific. They have, apparently, harvesting these requests and put them into a single genera area. They sort them based on the number of votes. A more recent version of this request (from 2014....) has been posted there and we are sitting in 7th place. Yes 'we'. 'Place' too. Don't think this isn't a game. It's us vs the other ideas.

Can I please suggest (or even beg) anyone remotely wanting this feature to vote on THAT thread. Let's boost the position higher. Who knows, we may get some traction (but I not betting on it)

Here's the specific thread :

Or perhaps, go there manually from the top of this forum

Forums -> Evernote Feature Requests

The first post introduces the new area, the voting ranking etc

Look down for 'Text Collapse' currently at 64 votes.

Let's jack up that number....

Hit the vote button. Don't just write '+1' in the comments.

Hit the button now.

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A view from the other side. 

Over the past 9 years, I've accumulated 47,000 notes in Evernote. I tried a few powerful outline programs in the past but kept coming back to Evernote. In my opinion, it is easier to use the flexibility with 1.) my existing tags, 2.) structured titles, and 3.) Evernote's search grammar to view/filter/hide the info.

There are already a lot of powerful outline programs available.  Workflowy (free) and 
https://lifehacker.com/5419988/five-best-outlining-tools

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11 hours ago, jbenson2 said:

There are already a lot of powerful outline programs available.  Workflowy (free) and 
https://lifehacker.com/5419988/five-best-outlining-tools

As your link indicates, MS Word has an outlining feature
This works for me, since most of my complex documents are in Word format
Evernote works well with Office documents as attachments to a note

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On 07/04/2016 at 8:09 PM, Frank.dg said:

Cloud Outliner connects and interfaces with Evernote. What you shuffle around in one affects changes in the other. So you'll want to do your shuffling around in Cloud Outliner. 

There's now a 3rd-party WorkFlowy app called HandyFlowy, which exports outlines to Evernote... But it's a one-way deal... and it only exports visible/ expanded lists.

 

Just tried the latest version of Cloud Outliner, it doesn't support Evernote note link, it even removes all note links previously created in Evernote! Make a backup before syncing your notes with it!

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Hi Gents,

Text Collapse: I think, technically, something is already available in Evernote, the "encryption" !!

Actually I was creating a note, and I was looking for a feature for collapsing a piece of text, that I would expand later only when I need to read the details, and also to give me a better overview of my complete note on one full screen space. I did not find the "collapse" feature (or "Expand" macro as it is called in "confluence"), but I remembered vaguely that I was using text encryption on evernote about one year ago, and that finally it was exactly acting as a "collapse", with the only difference being that for the "encryption" one needs a passphrase !!

So, for now I will use the text encryption just for my collapse/expand needs and will have to type the passphrase every time. what about simply make available similar function as encryption without "passphrase" and just call it "collapse" ??

Cheers

Pier

PS: sorry is this conversation was outdated or if another was better discussing this topic so that I may have not posting on the right place.

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I mind about interesting solution case that it would be nice to implement, where you could simply select the text you want to "collapse" and by right mouse click on it will get context menu with some "create related note" menu item. Then it should create new note populated with previously selected text and insert link instead of selected text at parent node.

In this case we use default functionality but only need to add context menu item with some automation.

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2 hours ago, wizzard said:

I mind about interesting solution case that it would be nice to implement, where you could simply select the text you want to "collapse" and by right mouse click on it will get context menu with some "create related note" menu item. Then it should create new note populated with previously selected text and insert link instead of selected text at parent node.

In this case we use default functionality but only need to add context menu item with some automation.

Hi.  Please don't cross post: https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/97538-managing-long-notes/#comment-467681

- Even if different posts are relevant to your request,  just pick one.

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On 2017-06-25 at 9:40 PM, sorochinskijap said:

Still waiting.

Personally, I use editors that provide features I need

Evernote's editor is adequate for notes, but when I need word processing features, I use a dedicated WP app
Evernote works well with Office/iWork files as attachments to notes

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I think this would be a great feature. Just take a look at the "LyX document processor" (sort of a GUI for LaTeX). It has a great ability to insert figures, etc into collapsable "floats." Seems like something similar could be very easily accomplished in Evernote.

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On 24/08/2017 at 9:43 PM, austinr2222 said:

Seems like something similar could be very easily accomplished in Evernote.

If they decide to do it,  and can engineer the same behaviour in multiple OS's and screen resolutions and sizes from 2 inches to 5 feet...

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I would propose to combine this feature with styles/markdown. If your implement Heading Styles, there could be a automatic possibility to collapse the respective section. Could be similar as document structure view in Word and very very helpful to organize long notes.

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1 hour ago, Drexler Mathias said:

If your implement Heading Styles, there could be a automatic possibility to collapse the respective section.

I’m not getting the “automatic possiblity” part.  My understanding of the heading styles was for formatting purpose 

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I meant clicking on headers could collapse the section below. Thereba you could structure your note by headers and collapse each one or expand it or select the level of headers, just like an outliner or the word functipn

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22 hours ago, Drexler Mathias said:

I meant clicking on headers could collapse the section below. Thereba you could structure your note by headers and collapse each one or expand it or select the level of headers, just like an outliner or the word functipn

Hi.  I use Workflowy to keep outlines handy,  and flesh out / re-order content as necessary. 

Evernote does already provide the resources to do the same thing,  but the execution is a little clunky,  though perfectly usable...

  1. Create a new (temporary) notebook for your project.  Add a new note for each main topic.  Add additional comments to the same notes,  or add new notes as required.
  2. Create a Table of Contents note from your notebook content.  This will give you a link to each note file.
  3. Re-order the ToC lines as necessary for your content - indent any child notes under their related parent note link
  4. Use the ToC note to manage your work,  adding content as necessary to each note,  and additional notes as necessary (manually add these links to your ToC in the correct place)
  5. Additional features like copy and merge notes may be hepful here too...
  6. When you're finished,  select all notes and print.  (I'd do that to a file,  then open the output file with Word and add more style)

It's a possibility.  ;)

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23 hours ago, Drexler Mathias said:

I meant clicking on headers could collapse the section below.

As a work around, I make use of “subnotes”.  This is similar to @gazumped’s TOC

The main Note contains  links to the subnotes.  Use the navigation keys to move back to the main note

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2 hours ago, Paul Merrett said:

You're right!

I give up.

Thanks for pointing this out.....

You can edit your note and change the link

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On 4/9/2014 at 1:37 AM, Philip A said:

Hey,

 

 

I would like to make a feature request for evernote to implement a text collapse, as seen in coding software such as Dreamweaver.

The idea is to make it a little bit easier to organise long lists.

Simply mark the desired text, collapse it and then you're able to toggle on and off and eventually remove the collapse when you don't need it anymore.

 

Here's a picture I found: 

http://www.creativepro.com/files/story_images/20050926_expand.jpg

 

It's a really simple feature, but it would make my Evernote life easier!

 

 

 

 

Philip A

 

This would be super useful for me as well!

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Good idea. What’s the closest thing to Evernote that has this?

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13 minutes ago, bounce said:

What’s the closest thing to Evernote that has this?

For outlines and other word processing features, I use MS Word, and add the document as an attachment to a note; Evernote works well with office/iwork documents

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19 minutes ago, DTLow said:

For outlines and other word processing features, I use MS Word, and add the document as an attachment to a note; Evernote works well with office/iwork documents

Sure, that’s one way. I've always tried to keep everything within a note with no attachments. Works better for my brain and the speed of Evernote unless the latter has changed over the years?

Closest app to Evernote that has this feature?

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8 minutes ago, bounce said:

Sure, that’s one way. I've always tried to keep everything within a note with no attachments. Works better for my brain and the speed of Evernote unless the latter has changed over the years?

Closest app to Evernote that has this feature?

The web app Workflowy has the best implementation that I've seen so far.  https://workflowy.com/

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On 2017-11-28 at 9:13 AM, bounce said:

I've always tried to keep everything within a note with no attachments.

You're really limited if you restrict yourself to the Evernote editor and format.  I encourage all users to make use of the attachment feature.

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On 11/28/2017 at 2:40 PM, DTLow said:

Youkre really limited if you restrict yourself to the Evernote editor and format.  I encourage all users to make use of the attachment feature.

Actually, for me, note links to other notes are far superior to attachments. Those need an overhaul though, per suggestions from another thread.

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1 hour ago, bounce said:

Actually, for me, note links to other notes are far superior to attachments. Those need an overhaul though, per suggestions from another thread.

Don't agree with being superior, but I do make use of note links; my notes are heavily cross-referenced

And the note links can be a method of simulating the text collapse requested in this discussion (think Table of Contents)

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在 2017/9/17 在 AM2點50分, raphaelaguiar說:

Only when I first saw Notion I really understood how amazing this feature would be!

That's AMAZING!Thank you! 

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Has this been considered by the Evernote team?? This is a really useful feature for how easy it looks to be implemented.

-Pietro.

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58 minutes ago, pdoninelli said:

Has this been considered by the Evernote team??

Hi.  The page has been around for 3+ years and (currently) has 125 votes.  They will be aware of it.

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20 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Hi.  The page has been around for 3+ years and (currently) has 125 votes.  They will be aware of it.

Ok thanks for the reply!

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Yes please... and perhaps this should be combined with the feature request here- the very first comment mentions both bookmarks and "collapsible sections"  -which is exactly what we are talking about here!   If you combine these two feature requests, they would become the second most requested feature here... over 350 at the time of this writing (vs 424 for the current to request).  

Can they be combined... 

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3 hours ago, Luke Milton said:

Can they be combined... 

They could be, but why? They're different features, and therefore different feature requests.

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17 minutes ago, Luke Milton said:

Perhaps because the most popular comment at the very beginning of the request includes "collapsible sections" and that likely influences people.. it is why I voted that up

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Can we stipulate that it's generally a good idea to keep a topic's focus as narrow as possible? Simple inputs like votes lose meaning if they're applied to a topic that has multiple requests  or issues. Sure, topic drift occurs, but this seems like a good starting point to me. 

So the idea here is to generate new ideas to improve Evernote, and try to gauge interest in those new ideas. Feature request subforums here (like this one) offer the ability for forum users to vote on the original request and also individual posts in a topic. Oh, and other users can 'like' any other user's post. These are capturable / tabulable separately via the forum software.  But there's nothing guaranteeing that a popular reply (whether by vote count or likes) is actually topical -- often they are, of course, but it might also be a funny wisecrack too. Moreover, many forum users don't know about the voting stuff, hence the myriad posts whose content is mainly "+1", or just "great idea' or 'that wouldn't work for me' or whatever.. And then there are piggyback posts: "Yes I want that, and by the way, I want something else, too". So all in all it's a bit of a tangle -- there's raw data (votes, likes), and maybe they can automate collection of "+1's", but beyond that it's probably a bit of handwaving, but it means that actual people need to read the comments (and in the past, Evernote has assured us that all posts are read) and come to some at least partially subjective measure of how popular a particular request is. And they also need to collect information from duplicate forum requests and other sources (twitter, hangouts, etc.)

Not rocket science, for sure, but time-consuming. In my view, mashing unrelated suggestions together would seem to make things more difficult; if the intent is to make one of them more popular than other requests ("If you combine these two feature requests, they would become the second most requested feature here... over 350 at the time of this writing (vs 424 for the current to request") then that seems especially unhelpful.  Note that Evernote moderators do occasionally pile related posts together; I'm pretty sure that the old (and very popular) nested notebooks topic (https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/96180-nesting-multiple-notebooks-creating-sub-notebooks/) comes from several separate topics, for example.

Anyways, that's just my take on it. There's no actual rules, and posts won't get deleted or moderated, etc. But this is obviously a popular request (heck, I probably even voted for it), so Evernote has noticed it. But popularity isn't everything; from the text at the head of the forum:

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Use this forum to suggest great ideas for improving Evernote. It could be a little idea or a very big idea. Like someone else's idea? Vote on the idea, or provide a comment of your own. One thing to remember: popularity does not mean implementation. Our forums are one component of the decisions we make, and while a bunch of ideas have merit, we need to be selective and always balancing priorities. 

 

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While some of my other wishlist items are higher priority to me, I was thinking this might be useful for me

Use case:  I have templates I've created in Evernote, with blocks of text that are more instructional/illustrating/etc., but once I've copied the template (form), I'd like to hide that instructional text, because it's no longer the focus.  [I suppose I could delete it, after copying the template into a working document, but a collapsible section would work nicely.]

[But maybe this is all too workflowy / data capture vs a generic database to store random snippets of information]

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As example: OmniOutliner. 

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY miss the 'text collapse' feature.

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6 minutes ago, Onnozel said:

As example: OmniOutliner. 

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY miss the 'text collapse' feature.

Not sure you can 'miss' something that's never been available.  ^_^

As long as we're getting votes at the top left of the page here (141 now!) Evernote "should" be thinking about this...

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I use Evernote as my main study aid, and to revise effectively, I draft revision notes as a series of questions. It would SUPERCHARGE my learning if I was able to open and close (via a collapsible list) questions to show and hide the answers. It is laborious and less effective to link each question to another note or document so please develop this feature! Thank you!

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On 2/27/2018 at 8:38 AM, devlin_morrow said:

I use Evernote as my main study aid, and to revise effectively, I draft revision notes as a series of questions. It would SUPERCHARGE my learning if I was able to open and close (via a collapsible list) questions to show and hide the answers. It is laborious and less effective to link each question to another note or document so please develop this feature! Thank you!

Hi.

On a desktop,  create a template note for your questions and answers.  Question in the title,  answer in the body.  Apply a standard tag.  Export to ENEX.  Save the ENEX file somewhere safe.

Click the file to create a new standard note with the  right tag.  Add a new question and the answer.  Repeat as necessary.  Apply new tag(s) for new subjects if required.

Search on the main tag and sort the notes in any order.  Create a Table of Contents note.  This will contain a list of questions with links to answers.

Vary the tags and try other sorts to group questions differently.

Use the back and forward arrows in Evernote to get from questions back to the list.

How to create a table of contents with links to other notes

Just a suggestion...

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On 1/4/2018 at 12:47 PM, AndyAndy said:

yes please

 

On 3/13/2018 at 11:14 AM, tomedwards4695 said:

Please implement this! 

 

On 3/14/2018 at 3:27 PM, Paul Merrett said:

Sadly I think we are all just talking among ourselves 

You're welcome to indicate your support for this feature request.  Voting buttons are in the upper left corner of the discussion.

Otherwise, you're posting your comments in a user discussion forum.

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This is a much-needed enhancement.  OneNote does this well, and I wish Evernote did it too.

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I think that would be very useful. This could drastically reduce the number of notes I need and help me keep things organized and easily accessible in a single place.

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+1

This feature is the only reason why I'm considering moving over to Workflowy

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The Evernote representatives here have made this by far one of the most tone-def, defensive, adversarial forums I've ever experienced.  

I implore you to take us seriously. We're your power users. We don't want to leave your product, but we will if you force us to. Take a chance, listen to us! Take our money! Or we'll go somewhere else... Workflowy, OneNote, Notability. 

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9 minutes ago, David N - Research Analyst said:

The Evernote representatives here have made this....

This is a user discussion forum; no Evernote representatives have posted in this discussion

To indicate your support for this request, use the voting buttons in the top left corner of the discussion.

You can also participate in the discussion; such as identifying work-arounds

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8 minutes ago, DTLow said:

This is a user discussion forum; no Evernote representatives have posted in this discussion

To indicate your support for this request, use the voting buttons in the top left corner of the discussion.

You can also participate in the discussion; such as identifying work-arounds

The problem is that this has been requested years ago by hundreds of users, it seems very easy to implement, it is highly usefull and even with all this factors, no anouncement has been done by the evernote team through any channel, that I am aware of. Is there any channel that we can use to reach them? Maybe if we call and even post the code so they just paste it in the program they will add this feature.

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5 minutes ago, pdoninelli said:

it seems very easy to implement ...   even post the code so they just paste it in the program they will add this feature.

Please provide details.  Keep in mind Evernote's note format is a simple html base.
Here's the code base you are working with:  https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/enml.php

If Evernote had a $ for every post that says "it seems very easy" they'd have funds to implement such changes

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30 minutes ago, DTLow said:

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Case and point, Evernote Super Guru @DTLow -- thank you for adding nothing but more hostility.

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19 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Please provide details.  Keep in mind Evernote's note format is a simple html base.
Here's the code base you are working with:  https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/enml.php

If Evernote had a $ for every post that says "it seems very easy" they'd have funds to implement such changes

Here is an example that you can run and test. https://www.w3schools.com/howto/howto_js_collapsible.asp

It needs some javascript, there might be some challenges for the desktop version because I am not sure how would javascript be implemented in desktop version.

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2 hours ago, pdoninelli said:

Here is an example that you can run and test. https://www.w3schools.com/howto/howto_js_collapsible.asp

It needs some javascript, there might be some challenges for the desktop version because I am not sure how would javascript be implemented in desktop version.

So; it seems very easy to implement, except for the JavaScript... and CSS

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53 minutes ago, DTLow said:

 

So; it seems very easy to implement, except for the JavaScript... and CSS

In web I know all of those are doable HTML+JavaScript+CSS as in the example i sent but on the desktop I'm not sure what would be the code behind. HTML+JavaScript+CSS is just the web-front end languages. On desktop you would probably use C# with some content processing libraries, where you would need to add a similar logic to the one that the example does with JavaScript in the web scenario.

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Seriously... how is this not a feature yet?  Is Evernote even working on it?  Is it even on the roadmap?  I get that we have to "Pick our apps to fit our needs"; but some of us are hoping to stick and grow with Evernote.  This is clearly a feature many longtime Evernote users have been asking for; but what we get is crickets... 

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17 hours ago, pdoninelli said:

In web I know all of those are doable HTML+JavaScript+CSS as in the example i sent but on the desktop I'm not sure what would be the code behind. HTML+JavaScript+CSS is just the web-front end languages. On desktop you would probably use C# with some content processing libraries, where you would need to add a similar logic to the one that the example does with JavaScript in the web scenario.

FYI Evernote uses the Chromium Embedded Framework (CEF) for rendering, across all platforms, I think. Not sure how it all hangs together, but eventually you'd need some place to store collapse state: the section of the note, and collapsed/expanded. Is that part of the note (collapsible sections persist with the note), or stored locally on the device? If it's persisted with the note, then you need some way in the note format to denote that, and it needs to comport with the ENML standard (Evernote format; https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/enml.php). So, some issues to keep in mind when theorizing about how Evernote might do this...

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22 hours ago, David N - Research Analyst said:

Case and point, Evernote Super Guru @DTLow -- thank you for adding nothing but more hostility.

I don't know about the imaginary Evernote representatives; I'm seeing hostility from Evernote Member @David N - Research Analyst

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Please... this is the one thing that makes me go back to Workflowy a lot, even though it is not as full-featured as Evernote. Need this!

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21 hours ago, EAR3321 said:

this is the one thing that makes me go back to Workflowy a lot, even though it is not as full-featured as Evernote.

One of the great things about Evernote is the note can contain files of any format.
You can use the editor that works best for you.

I use the Evernote editor for basic notes; MS-Word/Apple-Pages for extended word processing features.  
I'll check out the Workflowy editor but so far my requirements are addressed with this combination.

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+1, in a big way.

One note doesn't do a great job at it - if Evernote does even half as good they will pick up a lot of new users and keep their current happy.

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