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ios Feature Requests: Rotation and Notebook Binders

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So the new update is glorious but there's still two features I would LOVE to have.

1. Page Rotation- I take my notes in landscape and when I export them they are all sideways, If we had a page rotation option that would be awesome.

2. Notebook Binders- I use penultimate to take notes in class. Over a course of a semester my course notebooks because too large to be managable. It would make more sense to me if I could have each notebook be a chapter and I could bundle them up into one notebook "binder" for the class.

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I also write my notes in landscape, they should automatically be rotated when you sync to evernote. Frustrating that all my penultimate notes are sideways!

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I agree - I bought Penultimate ages ago, thinking an app with so many features couldn't possibly overlook something this simple and important. Then, in their FAQ, I found out they "intentionally designed it that way". It's a real comfort knowing it's intentionally crippled and not lame by accident...

Anyway, I've never used it, other than to check to see if Landscape mode is supported every time it got updated. So, it's still useless to me, whether by design or accident, it makes no difference.

It's a shame, because an app like this that integrates tightly with Evernote would be very nice to have.

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Another vote for this. I take most of my notes in Landscape orientation, and would like them exported respecting that. Perhaps it will require a setting in the iOS app, or maybe it can recognize the orientation from iOS when a note is saved...

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Another vote for Notebook Binders; after using Penultimate for a while it gets very cluttered with lots of different notebooks. 

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Yes, yes and a million times Yes!

 

I desperately need a Binders/Folders/Whateveryouwannacallit 

 

I take most of my notes in penultimate, and over the past few semesters i have accumulated a plethora of notebooks. I recently started using evernote and have noticed here i can categorize by folders... this should IMMEDIATELY be implementeed to penultimate. I organized my notes in evernote, however, i take my notes in landscape on my iPad, so they appear sideways while viewing them in evernote. 

 

I wish there were a way to switch up orientation... this is so frustrating.

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I'd like to second the landscape request. Please!

 

But honestly, it's one of the most beautiful apps out there. I like every single aspect on it.

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I would also like to have the option to view my landscape vertically in Evernote.

 

Thanks

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Yes please, rotation feature is a must for an application like this.

 

A third Feature Request is the option for highlight text with different colors and thickness.  I have been using Bamboo for my notes on my iPad and find out this feature very handy. 

 

These features on Penultimate plus the sync tool with Evernote will make it my preferred app for hand writing notes. 

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Yes please.  Page rotation so that my landscape notes correctly show up within Evernote horizontally instead of vertically.

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Yes to Binders - PLEASE Evernote add this to Penultimate. I have some 50 notes and that's a mess to keep structured. Actually, there's no structure.

This is why my regular note taking app is Noteshelf. If only Penultimate had a similar folder or binder approach I would use it. In Noteshelf I have some 200 notes all nicely ordered in different files.

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I'll add my 2 cents here that this is an absolute must-have to properly integrate my Penultimate notes with Evernote.

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I would like to second the request for a page rotation feature. I take almost all notes in landscape mode, both using penultimate and evernote (and other note taking apps). The fact that all penultimate notes are sideways in Evernote is a blocker for me, so I'm actually using other note taking software for freehand just because of this.

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Please add a feature to rotate pages in Evernote, Penultimate and Skitch ( all the connected Evernote apps)

My pages always end up in the wrong rotation :-/ and I want the ability to change the rotation without having to export the page and e-import it

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One more vote for rotation. So far as I can tell it's the only app in the IOS universe that doesn't rotate.

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Another vote particularly for rotation - absolutely vital for use of the app. I use it far less than I want to because I know I won't be able to view my notes the right way up in Evernote.

Once that's fixed, binders will become essential as I use it more!

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Rotation/landscape mode has been requested by many people but I see Evernote/Penultimate makes no response. Surely if more users and purchasers of add-ons are sought, then it makes sense to provide such a basic feature included in competitors' apps. I invite Evernote to respond and state whether or not it has any intention of listening to users or if those of us needing a rotation/landscape feature should continue to go elsewhere.

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A different view on this topic.

The lack of rotation is also a blocker for me.

However I would formulate the request differently. I don't want the rotation to be applied when exporting to Evernote, only for the sake of not having them sideways.

I believe paper should rotate together with the iPad orientation. I rotate my iPad, the paper should rotate with it.

When I use a template that reads only in portrait layout (see for instance most of the templates in the Time & Tasks collection, available in the EN market), I just cannot write on it in the landscape layout. Which is, unfortunately, what I get if I turn my iPad. Putting it differently, the current version of Penultimate forces me to use my iPad in portrait orientation.

My suggestion would be: The design team could differentiate and implement the following options:

- writing on a paper with a portrait OR a landscape layout

- having the paper rotate OR not when the iPad rotates (even though I personally don't see a big interest in it, I just mention this option as an acknowledgement of EN's deliberate design choice to keep the paper not rotating, as it is currently the case)

Both set of 2 options are independent but not mutually exclusive. Offering users the choice would, I presume, satisfy them all.

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Yes!!! I also bought Penultimate ages ago and thought it was a beautiful app. I've used Evernote since 2011, have a premium account, and love it. But I have never used Penultimate because of the landscape thing. I opened it today after more than a year thinking that this issue must have been resolved by now. I ALWAYS use my iPad in landscape mode, propped on a Smart Cover. I never use it portrait. I spent quite a while looking in all the settings today to see how I could tell it to switch to landscape, and make the lines of the lined paper be correctly oriented, but couldn't see anything about it. I finally discovered a paper collection that includes landscape line paper, but the fact that it is not included by default makes it pretty apparent that Evernote does not value that mode at all. I just don't get it. I have seen many threads and requests for a proper landscape mode in Penultimate and I am annoyed that after all this time, that such a simple request still hasn't been fulfilled. Seriously, add an option on the page or notebook level that let's us say which orientation we want to use. It just can't be that hard. Sadly, once again I will be shutting down the app unused. I won't delete it from the iPad yet, as I remain ever hopeful that it may yet come to pass, and the app may be worthy of the Evernote brand.

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Rotation issues +1 with my iPad.. I'm sure I started it all correctly, maybe in the process of changing from one device to the other it now displays everything in the wrong orientation and I can't rotate it.

 

Need a rotation option please.

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I also vote to add better landscape rotation handling. It would be great to take notes and not have to lock the rotation and turn the device to sideways to read my notes.

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With a totally revamped Penultimate coming in the next couple months, I'm sure we'll see some changes here. 

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Yes, same here...another vote for rotation of note pages, otherwise the penultimate app is of no use to me at all. Seems absurd that it's not possible to do this to be honest.

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I gave up waiting for an answer a year ago... If it suits anyone any comfort, and considering that penultimate and evernote developers dont seem to give a rats ass, maybe u should consider what i did... Which was shell put a couple of dollars and buy Notability. It really is a lot better.

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The latest update to penultimate is a slap to the face to its users.

It's completely stupid, and shows how little they care about their current user base.

I had been a penultimate user since i got my first ipad 3 years ago, i used it up until 6 months ago, when i found a much better alternative (Notesbility).

This transition into evernote almost seemed like a good idea at the beginning, but like most of us in this thread seem to find, the fact that there was no way to rotate our landscape penultimate notes in evernote kinda made it useless to use evernote (in my case i could say 90% of my +160 notes were taken in landscape mode). But i figured that was ok, because i could still use them on penultimate, although without evernote's organization.

Today i found the penultimate app had an overhaul.

I was very hopeful that this overhaul would fix the problem with the landscape notes in evernote, and when opening the app and finding my notes in penultimate already organized into evernote folders i though i was very pleased... Until i took a clser look.

First of all, with the new UI i can no longer see the name on my notes, and i cannot understand how they have become organized. Right now it almost seems like the organization is completely random. And without the names visible, it is very hard to find what i am looking for. This made me upset, but i figured maybe i was missing something. So i looked, and looked, and looked, but have been unable to find a way to make the names visible, or to change the way they are organized. But ***** that, maybe i can live with this disorganization, right? So i decide to check my notes out.

The first one i picked was one of the very few portrait notes i have, and it looked alright. I always use my ipad in landscape. ALWAYS. So this portrait note was only half displayed, and i had to scroll to view it. Ok, that's a livable thing to have to deal with, after all, i hardly had any portrait notes.

But... Then i i tried opening one of my landscape notes...

The note was sideways. The way it would be displayed in evernote. I had my ipad in landscape orientation, but the landscape note was being displayed at a 90 degree angle. At first i didnt get it, and then it hit me. They imported all notes from evernote directly. Which is why it was rotated.

The way i see it, they decided to fix the "landscape rotation problem", by simply denying users the ability to write in landscape to begin with. And to those of us that have landscape notes, we were hit by a huge "F#CK YOU!" Straight to the face. They dont care about solving the problem. So what will my decision be on this? I am deciding to eliminate penultimate from my devices, eliminate evernote, and recommending against using it to everyone i know, and who ever asks me about them in the future.

I will take the pdf backups i have of my notes. Rotate them back to landscape the way i originally took them, and importing all of them over to Noteability where they do things right.

Jeez, you would think they would realize that the way the apple cover is designed (and most covers by the way), the ipad is meant to be used in landscape mode. Oh and dont get me started on that freaking jot stylus piece of *****....

I think i will just stop now, before i get even madder.

Hasta NUNCA Penultimate!

Adios Evernote!

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

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Thanks for the update Penultimate! This app is now useless to me.. Enjoy my couple of dollars as I mention to everyone I know not to buy this ***** app.

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I'm going to disagree with the last two comments. I have (so far at least) found the latest update to not only address the rotation issue but be a generally excellent overhaul of the app.

I've been able to successfully open previous notes (I too am a mostly landscape user), and after a little fiddling, I find the new layout for the tools to be quite intuitive. (One thing I'd like to see is multiple sizes for the eraser tool, same as you get for the pen tool).

SgtP3pp3r - just one small correction. You can indeed see the file names. Look in the settings page. (I did find once I turned the setting on I had to come out of the binder and cons back in before it took effect).

Overall, I'm so far very satisfied with this new update. Now, if you can just develop a slightly faster Penultimate development cycle, Evernote, you'd be in the perfect place right now :)

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