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Markdown WYSIWYG support plz?

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I dont need a "quick note taking tool" (There is already notes built right in to iOS). I need something to help me create, tag, sync, update, and read notes and other materials.

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I would definitely pay for markdown. Something like Byword would be amazing. 

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Not sure about Markdown any more. Would prefer Multimarkdown (a superset of Markdown). If they're going to do it I want them to do it right. :-)

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+1 for Multimarkdown

 

This topic started in 2008 and five years later, people are still requesting it! C'mon Evernote :) 

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+1 for Multimarkdown

 

This topic started in 2008 and five years later, people are still requesting it! C'mon Evernote :) 

Just because a feature has been requested does not mean it will be implemented. A lot of users have other feature requests & sometimes my feature request may be mutually exclusive of your feature request. Plus, EN must balance resources as well as priorities. And some feature requests they may simply decide to never implement, for whatever reason.

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+1 for Multimarkdown

 

This topic started in 2008 and five years later, people are still requesting it! C'mon Evernote :) 

Just because a feature has been requested does not mean it will be implemented. A lot of users have other feature requests & sometimes my feature request may be mutually exclusive of your feature request. Plus, EN must balance resources as well as priorities. And some feature requests they may simply decide to never implement, for whatever reason.

 

That's a pretty weak answer, though, you have to admit?   I think a simple thumbs-up or thumbs-down is all people really want to hear from any software company.  If Evernote, as you say is balancing resources/priorities or simply deciding not to implement it, then why not just be a customer-friendly company and issue a single post that answers either "Yes, we'll implement it because we love our customers" or "No, we will not implement it because XYZ, sorry".  It would save us all the 5-years of talking at a brick wall.

 

It's a courtesy issue as much as anything else.

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That's a pretty weak answer, though, you have to admit?   I think a simple thumbs-up or thumbs-down is all people really want to hear from any software company.  If Evernote, as you say is balancing resources/priorities or simply deciding not to implement it, then why not just be a customer-friendly company and issue a single post that answers either "Yes, we'll implement it because we love our customers" or "No, we will not implement it because XYZ, sorry".  It would save us all the 5-years of talking at a brick wall.

 

It's a courtesy issue as much as anything else.

 

 

No, it's not a "weak answer".  It's a factual answer.  Additionally, Evernote does not publish their roadmap or ETAs. 

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That's a pretty weak answer, though, you have to admit?   I think a simple thumbs-up or thumbs-down is all people really want to hear from any software company.  If Evernote, as you say is balancing resources/priorities or simply deciding not to implement it, then why not just be a customer-friendly company and issue a single post that answers either "Yes, we'll implement it because we love our customers" or "No, we will not implement it because XYZ, sorry".  It would save us all the 5-years of talking at a brick wall.

 

It's a courtesy issue as much as anything else.

 

 

No, it's not a "weak answer".  It's a factual answer.  Additionally, Evernote does not publish their roadmap or ETAs. 

 

 

Ok, maybe "weak answer" was not the right term, I apologize.  Perhaps the bureaucratic nature of your answer is the rub.  I think the facts as you laid them out are a curt dismissal of the issue and ignore some basics of good customer service.  Remember that people here presumably want to use the product and it's our only way to request features that would, in our opinion, improve the product.  Again, it's a courtesy issue.

 

Factually speaking, you did seem to ignore that there are over a hundred posts over a five year period without response from Evernote.  For each post to a forum such as this there is a multiplier (100x, 1000x?) for how many other people who feel the same way but aren't retentive enough to waste their time (like me) to issue a post...  ;)

 

Anyhow, +1 for Markdown or Multimarkdown, and +1 for a thoughtful, courteous, customer-friendly response from Evernote support.  Thx!

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Ok, maybe "weak answer" was not the right term, I apologize.  Perhaps the bureaucratic nature of your answer is the rub.  I think the facts as you laid them out are a curt dismissal of the issue and ignore some basics of good customer service.  Remember that people here presumably want to use the product and it's our only way to request features that would, in our opinion, improve the product.  Again, it's a courtesy issue.

 

Factually speaking, you did seem to ignore that there are over a hundred posts over a five year period without response from Evernote.  For each post to a forum such as this there is a multiplier (100x, 1000x?) for how many other people who feel the same way but aren't retentive enough to waste their time (like me) to issue a post...  ;)

 

Anyhow, +1 for Markdown or Multimarkdown, and +1 for a thoughtful, courteous, customer-friendly response from Evernote support.  Thx!

 

I'm not affiliated with Evernote, as you can see from my sig.  You posted something & I'm simply reiterating what has been said on these message boards hundreds of times.  Things you can easily find yourself, if you look.  That is:

 

  • Just because a feature is requested hundreds of times over does not mean it will be implemented soon, if ever.
  • Evernote does not publish their roadmap
  • Evernote does not publish ETAs
  • Additionally, Evernote reads all the posts on this board but does not reply to each & every one or even to each & every thread.
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Check the http://nimblebox.me

It's a small application for Windows that support Markdown and many more handy tools. I have developed it recently. I will appriciate any comments.

 

Too bad it is only for Windows :(

 

Good luck with it! I look forward to hearing what others think of it.

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+1 for Markdown and +1 for some type of nod from Evernote on whether they intend to support it or not. As a paying customer it would be nice to know.

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How about trying Markdown Here? It works in Evernote Web but not in this forumn.

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I have never posted in this forum before, but wanted to pop in to voice support for Markdown within Evernote.

 

I realize Evernote does all kinds of fancy rich text editing and HTML-based formatting in the background, but I wonder whether this is more than is necessary. At it's core, what is Evernote? A note-taking app. So why do I care about picking between umpteen different fonts and text sizes within my notes?

 

Even the new "reminders" feature strikes me as strange. It's like Evernote is trying to make itself into a swiss army knife. I don't expect my note-taking app to remind me to pick up groceries. That's what I have a to do list for. And I don't expect to format each note different than the rest. If I need to style a document, that's what a word processing or document publishing apps are for.

 

But I digress. I guess what I'm trying to say is this: Evernote would do well to focus their app on its core competency rather than trying to be all things to all people.

 

If I could, I would switch off different formatting for different notes in Evernote. I want consistency across my notes. And I feel markdown would supply the minimal formatting necessary to make special writing elements like lists, quotes, code, and tables coherent within the unified look and feel.

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 At it's core, what is Evernote? A note-taking app. 

 

No, not really. At it's core, according to Evernote itself, it's a database for storing and retrieving information from multiple platforms. The note taking is kind of an extra bonus. I believe they excel at their core competency to "Remember everything." I do agree with you, though that the reminders feature seems to be drifting away from its core function.  

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Evernote would do well to focus their app on its core competency rather than trying to be all things to all people.... And I feel markdown would supply the minimal formatting necessary to make special writing elements like lists, quotes, code, and tables coherent within the unified look and feel.

 

Digittrance, I think you nailed it.

 

I've found myself opening Evernote less-and-less after the big redesign and find it increasingly more cumbersome to use since they packed it "full of features".  It doesn't do reminders, tasks, etc, anywhere close to as concisely as competing tools, and in the meantime has gotten progressively less able at being a note-taking tool.  I stuck with Evernote a long time, but they seem to be going down the Yahoo route where they're trying to be everything for everyone and in the process just becoming mediocre, which is a bummer.  Hope they correct course...

 

+1 for markdown...  :)

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On Reminders I'd guess this is suffering from "Release 1" Syndrome - not that I personally see problems with its implementation. And I do think Reminders is best placed integrated with Evernote - datastreamwise and clientwise.

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On Reminders I'd guess this is suffering from "Release 1" Syndrome - not that I personally see problems with its implementation. And I do think Reminders is best placed integrated with Evernote - datastreamwise and clientwise.

Don't know whether I'd call it "suffering", but I do know that a not uncommon strategy for software developers is to put out a basic set of functionality, and then wait for feedback so that they can adjust/fine tune things.
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Funny how this old topic pops up again and again. I would pay to know if/where Markup is on the EN roadmap...

Somewhere in the same vicinity as the support for LaTex and for an Esperanto version, I'd guess.

 

I would hope that Markdown was a little higher on the priority list than LaTex. Seems to me that Markdown has a broader user base due to it's simplicity and spectrum of application. +1 for markdown integration in evernote!!

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Funny how this old topic pops up again and again. I would pay to know if/where Markup is on the EN roadmap...

Somewhere in the same vicinity as the support for LaTex and for an Esperanto version, I'd guess.
I would hope that Markdown was a little higher on the priority list than LaTex. Seems to me that Markdown has a broader user base due to it's simplicity and spectrum of application. +1 for markdown integration in evernote!!
Um, that was a joke -- same order of magnitude, I'd guess.
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Given that its not in the rather major rewrites that have been recently released I think it's safe to say that this isn't coming imminently.

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it does not have to be markdown. The android app should at least provide the same formatting functionality like the other clients and mobile apps. On iphone you get 

 

  1. Text Styles Tools: Tap to change the text style, including bold, italicize, underscore, strike through, and highlight
  2. List Tools: Tap to create bulleted and numbered lists, or to insert a checkbox
  3. Indent Tools: Tap to indent the current line of text
  4. Insert Link Tool: Tap to insert a text hyperlink
  5. Simplified Formatting Tool: Tap to simply text formatting or convert the selected text to plain text
  6. Paragraph Style Tools: Select a block of text, then tap any of the options to apply pre-defined format settings to 

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I think Markdown is the very best to write quickliy.

 

Evernote has a concept, where Markdown fits perfectly.

 

Just a few weeks ago I did not know about Evernote, and now, I can't think of a morning, I won't take a look on my phone first.

 

A few (useful) futures would be great:

 

As said before:

 

- Markdown

 

Write write write.. Don't have to think about clicking on each word you want to have boldface/italic/etc.

 

Don't have to mark every single heading to set it boldface, maybe underlined, greater size, a.s.o.

 

- ToDo-Lists

 

I found a way to use Evernote as my ToDo-List already.. But.. I can explain..

 

1. set a notebook called ToDo

2. move this notebook to a stack called Important (to not have 'alphabetical problems' i called it ###__IMPORTANT__###)

3. added a new notebook to this stack called Seperate/Timed ToDos (to not have hundreds of notes in THE todo-notebook)

4. added note to ToDo called ...yeah not very good... ToDo (Here I have one List)

5. splitted this list into Today/Then/Special Date/One Day In The Very Future/Tasks Done

 

When I have a thing to do on a special date:

 

1. add a note to Seperate/Timed ToDos called e.g. Birthdaypresent for Rob

2. add an entry Birthdaypresent for Rob to my Special Date section in the ToDo-List

3. link the note I made in (1) to the entry I made in (2)

 

... I think you understand what I mean...

 

And this is (in my opinion) one of the easiest ways to 'construct' a ToDo-List...

 

Gentlemen - Theres a lot to do there ;)

 

- Favorites-Section (like in mac app?)

 

Don't know if I am blind, but I did not found a favorite section neither on Android-App and on Win-App.

 

...Thin this is enough atm.

 

Hope I wrote this in the right section here in the Forum!

 

Except of a few things, Evernote rocks! ;)

 

Use it for Private notes, for ToDo-List (maah.. in a very complicated way..), for organizing websites for a acapella-musicgroup, a faculty at university, for work, for journeys ....

 

Keep up the good work and implement a little more ;)

 

Cheers!

wohfab

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Please add this -- I write most of my serious Evernote postings now in Markable, because I don't have the patience to point&click constantly to format text, or to highlight and choose a monospace font off the dropdown menu instead of using standard markdown syntax. Also there's no sensible way to create links in Evernote. Full markdown support is the single most important improvement I could hope for from Evernote.

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Please add this -- I write most of my serious Evernote postings now in Markable, because I don't have the patience to point&click constantly to format text, or to highlight and choose a monospace font off the dropdown menu instead of using standard markdown syntax. Also there's no sensible way to create links in Evernote. Full markdown support is the single most important improvement I could hope for from Evernote.

This is the way I do it too, using an external editor to do the md formatting and then pasting it into Evernote when I'm done. Would be nice to have it inside the app. The nice thing about markdown is that it doesn't even have to be visible to anyone who doesn't want to use it.

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Please add this -- I write most of my serious Evernote postings now in Markable, because I don't have the patience to point&click constantly to format text, or to highlight and choose a monospace font off the dropdown menu instead of using standard markdown syntax. Also there's no sensible way to create links in Evernote. Full markdown support is the single most important improvement I could hope for from Evernote.

This is the way I do it too, using an external editor to do the md formatting and then pasting it into Evernote when I'm done. Would be nice to have it inside the app. The nice thing about markdown is that it doesn't even have to be visible to anyone who doesn't want to use it.

Hi. Welcome to the forums.

I usually write my notes in Markdown, and when I want to see them formatted, I paste them into something, and then back into Evernote as well. It is unwieldy and far from ideal, but it works. It would be great if (like other apps) we could just press a shortcut key like CTRL + CMD + p (Mac) and see the page formatted nicely. Like you said, it would be there for the folks who want it, but hidden from those who are not interested in it.

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I would suggest:

 

  1. Add a "render as" combo list (drop down) to the client (i.e. select "render as Github flavored Markdown").
  2. Add a "edit in external editor" button (i.e. "edit in Vim").
  3. Profit by making your hardcore (and loyal) users happy.

 

Alternatively:

 

  1. Wait until some enterprising full-stack developer and designer combo pair up to build your clone promoted via Kickstarter.

 

It certainly won't be me; I'm happy with my day job and I know how much work this would be. That said, how long until some hungry and talented team catches on?

 

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Evernote would do well to focus their app on its core competency rather than trying to be all things to all people.... And I feel markdown would supply the minimal formatting necessary to make special writing elements like lists, quotes, code, and tables coherent within the unified look and feel.

 

Digittrance, I think you nailed it.

 

I've found myself opening Evernote less-and-less after the big redesign and find it increasingly more cumbersome to use since they packed it "full of features".  It doesn't do reminders, tasks, etc, anywhere close to as concisely as competing tools, and in the meantime has gotten progressively less able at being a note-taking tool.  I stuck with Evernote a long time, but they seem to be going down the Yahoo route where they're trying to be everything for everyone and in the process just becoming mediocre, which is a bummer.  Hope they correct course...

 

+1 for markdown...  :)

 

 

I disagree with both of you, I think you're engaging in a false equivalency argument that is made too often about software.  I don't think EN is even close to attempting to be all things to all people.  Just the opposite, they seem to routinely refuse to implement fairly standard functionality.  So instead of arguing they need to do less so you can get the feature you want, you should be arguing they do more so you get the feature you want :D.

 

Personally, the reason I simultaneously love and hate EN is precisely because they are so good at some things and so limited at other things, things that a lot of software makes easy.  The result is that like many users I find myself constantly trying to employ overly complex workarounds to achieve something that in my mind should be pretty straightforward.

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I don't think EN is even close to attempting to be all things to all people.  Just the opposite, they seem to routinely refuse to implement fairly standard functionality.  So instead of arguing they need to do less so you can get the feature you want, you should be arguing they do more so you get the feature you want :D.

 

 

Personally, the reason I simultaneously love and hate EN is precisely because they are so good at some things and so limited at other things, things that a lot of software makes easy.  The result is that like many users I find myself constantly trying to employ overly complex workarounds to achieve something that in my mind should be pretty straightforward.

 

 

I think I agree with you, in the sense that Evernote is not trying to do "too much." They're just doing the wrong things. They spend lots of effort on "improvements" that are either pathetically broken (reminders), duplicative of much more advanced services (reminders again) or trivial attempts to replicate features for casual users who won't ever pay (Food, Hello). Meanwhile, they ignore core improvements to the note-taking functionality, which is what serious users like me are paying for. 

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I think I agree with you, in the sense that Evernote is not trying to do "too much." They're just doing the wrong things. They spend lots of effort on "improvements" that are either pathetically broken (reminders), duplicative of much more advanced services (reminders again) or trivial attempts to replicate features for casual users who won't ever pay (Food, Hello). Meanwhile, they ignore core improvements to the note-taking functionality, which is what serious users like me are paying for. 

 

 

Could not agree more.  I did see a comment from one of the EN employees that the new Windows beta client is the "basis for a lot of new functionality going forward".  I can no longer get my hopes up after seeing so many requests ignored for so long, because if anything the new client only seems to show a huge amount of time spent on a redesign that no one asked for while offering next to 0 new useful features, but it did give me the faintest glimmer of hope that maybe some of these other things are in the pike.

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I think I agree with you, in the sense that Evernote is not trying to do "too much." They're just doing the wrong things. They spend lots of effort on "improvements" that are either pathetically broken (reminders), duplicative of much more advanced services (reminders again) or trivial attempts to replicate features for casual users who won't ever pay (Food, Hello). Meanwhile, they ignore core improvements to the note-taking functionality, which is what serious users like me are paying for.

 

Could not agree more.  I did see a comment from one of the EN employees that the new Windows beta client is the "basis for a lot of new functionality going forward".  I can no longer get my hopes up after seeing so many requests ignored for so long, because if anything the new client only seems to show a huge amount of time spent on a redesign that no one asked for while offering next to 0 new useful features, but it did give me the faintest glimmer of hope that maybe some of these other things are in the pike.

I agree that there is a lot of stuff I want to see done in the app. However, I also think they are moving forward with features that users have requested and need. The disjunction between joined and owned notebooks made sharing pretty useless until they remedied that in Fall 2012. In Winter 2013 they added Business, which I am sure has made a huge difference for some users, and will mean a new income stream. In Spring 2013 they added 2FA, Reminders, and Highlighters (coming shortly to Windows), which were long-requested items. I know there is a lot more they have done, but these are some of the big ones that I think have really improved the app. Think back to this time last year, and it is pretty clear that we have advanced leaps and bounds.

Again, I want to stress that there is a lot more I want to see as well. I regularly post here on the forums and bug the developers about the bugs, so they know what they are. I won't list everything here in this thread, because I don't want to take it off topic.

As far as markdown goes, as a heavy user of markdown (almost all of my notes), it would make a huge difference for me if I could have markdown support in the app. However, let's face it -- markdown isn't "mainstream." Sure, a lot of people use it, but ask your parents if they know what it is. Ask any student in school if they know what it is. Chances are, they have no idea. That's because it is still (in my opinion) a little bit of a niche feature.

Of course, I'd prefer markdown support over any number of other Evernote things, but that's because I have different priorities than the developers do. It's not that they are doing the "wrong" things. They just aren't doing all the things we want. Maybe we have to convince them that it would be worth the effort. I'm not sure how to do that, though. Perhaps, if they saw some specifics about use cases (not just +1 markdown, but actual explanations of how it would be used and the difference it would make), then that would help convince the teams that it is worth the effort.

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I agree that there is a lot of stuff I want to see done in the app. However, I also think they are moving forward with features that users have requested and need. The disjunction between joined and owned notebooks made sharing pretty useless until they remedied that in Fall 2012. In Winter 2013 they added Business, which I am sure has made a huge difference for some users, and will mean a new income stream. In Spring 2013 they added 2FA, Reminders, and Highlighters (coming shortly to Windows), which were long-requested items. I know there is a lot more they have done, but these are some of the big ones that I think have really improved the app. Think back to this time last year, and it is pretty clear that we have advanced leaps and bounds.

Again, I want to stress that there is a lot more I want to see as well. I regularly post here on the forums and bug the developers about the bugs, so they know what they are. I won't list everything here in this thread, because I don't want to take it off topic.

As far as markdown goes, as a heavy user of markdown (almost all of my notes), it would make a huge difference for me if I could have markdown support in the app. However, let's face it -- markdown isn't "mainstream." Sure, a lot of people use it, but ask your parents if they know what it is. Ask any student in school if they know what it is. Chances are, they have no idea. That's because it is still (in my opinion) a little bit of a niche feature.

Of course, I'd prefer markdown support over any number of other Evernote things, but that's because I have different priorities than the developers do. It's not that they are doing the "wrong" things. They just aren't doing all the things we want. Maybe we have to convince them that it would be worth the effort. I'm not sure how to do that, though. Perhaps, if they saw some specifics about use cases (not just +1 markdown, but actual explanations of how it would be used and the difference it would make), then that would help convince the teams that it is worth the effort.

 

 

My comments were about things over all.   Mark down is one small feature, and it's absolutely a geek feature that a very small subset of users will use, so I can understand them not making that a priority (though there is also nothing wrong with occasionally adding features for your power users).  Instead let's use the latest 5.0 beta as an example.  EN makes a huge deal out of it in their videos, says it's a complete re-imagining of the software or similar marketing speak.  As a power user, did you find ONE single new useful feature in it that excited you?  I didn't.  All I found was a new design that makes it unpleasant to use, my personal and business notebooks mixed together, so now it looks like we're going to have to drop the already half featured business product if they implement that, and a bunch of insignificant design changes like moving shortcuts to the side where users now have to scroll to get to them.

 

Let's just say that when a company brings out what is supposed to be a major new release, I'd hope to find maybe ONE really cool new feature that makes me enjoy using it more?  Or some of the features users have been asking for forever?  Instead they are now taking away features to help me "focus on what's most important to me" (more market speak).

 

Don't get me wrong, EN is an amazing product.  But right now I have no excitement or hope that they are bringing our cool new features.  Just the opposite, I'm actually worrying they are going to take away much needed features.

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I agree that there is a lot of stuff I want to see done in the app. However, I also think they are moving forward with features that users have requested and need. The disjunction between joined and owned notebooks made sharing pretty useless until they remedied that in Fall 2012. In Winter 2013 they added Business, which I am sure has made a huge difference for some users, and will mean a new income stream. In Spring 2013 they added 2FA, Reminders, and Highlighters (coming shortly to Windows), which were long-requested items. I know there is a lot more they have done, but these are some of the big ones that I think have really improved the app. Think back to this time last year, and it is pretty clear that we have advanced leaps and bounds.

Again, I want to stress that there is a lot more I want to see as well. I regularly post here on the forums and bug the developers about the bugs, so they know what they are. I won't list everything here in this thread, because I don't want to take it off topic.

As far as markdown goes, as a heavy user of markdown (almost all of my notes), it would make a huge difference for me if I could have markdown support in the app. However, let's face it -- markdown isn't "mainstream." Sure, a lot of people use it, but ask your parents if they know what it is. Ask any student in school if they know what it is. Chances are, they have no idea. That's because it is still (in my opinion) a little bit of a niche feature.

Of course, I'd prefer markdown support over any number of other Evernote things, but that's because I have different priorities than the developers do. It's not that they are doing the "wrong" things. They just aren't doing all the things we want. Maybe we have to convince them that it would be worth the effort. I'm not sure how to do that, though. Perhaps, if they saw some specifics about use cases (not just +1 markdown, but actual explanations of how it would be used and the difference it would make), then that would help convince the teams that it is worth the effort.

 

My comments were about things over all.   Mark down is one small feature, and it's absolutely a geek feature that a very small subset of users will use, so I can understand them not making that a priority (though there is also nothing wrong with occasionally adding features for your power users).  Instead let's use the latest 5.0 beta as an example.  EN makes a huge deal out of it in their videos, says it's a complete re-imagining of the software or similar marketing speak.  As a power user, did you find ONE single new useful feature in it that excited you?  I didn't.  All I found was a new design that makes it unpleasant to use, my personal and business notebooks mixed together, so now it looks like we're going to have to drop the already half featured business product if they implement that, and a bunch of insignificant design changes like moving shortcuts to the side where users now have to scroll to get to them.

 

Let's just say that when a company brings out what is supposed to be a major new release, I'd hope to find maybe ONE really cool new feature that makes me enjoy using it more?  Instead they are now taking away features to help me "focus on what's most important to me" (more market speak).

 

Don't get me wrong, EN is an amazing product.  But right now I have no excitement or hope that they are bringing our cool new features.  Just the opposite, I'm actually worrying they are going to take away much needed features.

I see. Well, I think you'll want to take those comments to the V5 thread, because this one is about markdown :)

Remember, these apps are coming together in terms of functionality. If you are looking for the shape of things to come for Windows, look no further than the most recent beta for the Mac. At least, that would be my guess.

Are the business and personal notes split up enough for you in the Mac version? Not as much as I would like (I dislike having tags from other people mixed into my tags), but they are OK. I can live with them. I think if you push for that instead of the current Windows implementation (I am a little behind on the betas, so I can't speak with specifics just now), then you can make a compelling case for changes.

There won't likely be markdown in the next Windows update, and I kind of doubt it is on the roadmap for Mac. After ETC we might get some sense of what new stuff is in the offing. My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

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I see. Well, I think you'll want to take those comments to the V5 thread, because this one is about markdown :)

 

There won't likely be markdown in the next Windows update, and I kind of doubt it is on the roadmap for Mac. After ETC we might get some sense of what new stuff is in the offing. My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

 

 

Right after you take your previous post that I was responding to, to the other thread :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Are the business and personal notes split up enough for you in the Mac version? Not as much as I would like (I dislike having tags from other people mixed into my tags), but they are OK. I can live with them. I think if you push for that instead of the current Windows implementation (I am a little behind on the betas, so I can't speak with specifics just now), then you can make a compelling case for changes.

 

Spoken like a true evangelist :P.  Why in the world would I want to push for the Windows client to take a step backward and become like the Mac client?  How about just not breaking it!  I simply want them to have a freaking clue about the needs of business users AND for that matter personal users, neither of which seem particularly keen on having their personal notebooks and business notebooks completely mixed together.  Didn't you even acknowledge this in the thread on the issue?  Did your desire to defend overcome your previous clear thinking :P:D.

 

Anyhow, to be clear, I am all for markdown, which is the subject of this thread, I just said I understand them not looking upon it as a priority.  But one would think they would look upon proper formatting, whatever method is used to achieve it, as priority.

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I see. Well, I think you'll want to take those comments to the V5 thread, because this one is about markdown :)

 

There won't likely be markdown in the next Windows update, and I kind of doubt it is on the roadmap for Mac. After ETC we might get some sense of what new stuff is in the offing. My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

 

Right after you take your previous post that I was responding to, to the other thread :rolleyes:

Start a thread about the issues you raise and I'll be happy to discuss all of the stuff you brought up :) Let's leave this thread for markdown.

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My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

 

That's what I've been doing, obviously. But the more time I spend working around Evernote's deficiencies, or using other tools to make up for them, the more I wonder why I'm paying for Evernote at all. If you are right that this trend is going to continue, I doubt I'll be a paid customer for much longer. 

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I see. Well, I think you'll want to take those comments to the V5 thread, because this one is about markdown :)

 

There won't likely be markdown in the next Windows update, and I kind of doubt it is on the roadmap for Mac. After ETC we might get some sense of what new stuff is in the offing. My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

 

Right after you take your previous post that I was responding to, to the other thread :rolleyes:

 

Start a thread about the issues you raise and I'll be happy to discuss all of the stuff you brought up :) Let's leave this thread for markdown.

 

 

Yes, would you do that please, and stop taking this thread off the topic of markdown please?  Thanks a lot.

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My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

 

That's what I've been doing, obviously.

 

I bolded the relevant part ;).  As do most of us ;), so it's gets tiring being giving advice like that.

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My advice would be to make the most of what you have and try to find a way to work with the features that are disruptive for your use case.

 

That's what I've been doing, obviously. But the more time I spend working around Evernote's deficiencies, or using other tools to make up for them, the more I wonder why I'm paying for Evernote at all. If you are right that this trend is going to continue, I doubt I'll be a paid customer for much longer.

I was replying to ZZZ with that advice. Although I think it applies for all of us, it was not directed specifically at you. In fact, we both seem to have dealt with the lack of Markdown support with similar workarounds.

I am not terribly good at prognostication, and I don't think Evernote has given us enough information to make very educated guesses as to how they feel about Markdown, but I'll take a stab at it and say that Markdown support is unlikely to come if they see it affecting a relatively small percentage of the user base (I am afraid I also think it is not going to be as big as highlighters and reminders), because they have said in the past that they are looking to focus on features that will impact lots of users.

If by "trend" you mean the tendency to support features for the general user over that for power users, then I don't see that changing anytime soon. Personally, I think there is significant overlap between the two kinds of users, and if Markdown were implemented well, it could benefit both. I would encourage Evernote to stop dividing up the user base this way (assuming that they do).

How could such an implementation work? For a long time now I have been advocating for Evernote plug-ins or extensions (like we have for browsers) so that we don't have to use totally different apps just to use features like Markdown. Unfortunately, for Markdown support to work smoothly under the current system, some third party would have to develop an entirely independent app that works similar to the main client, but also has Markdown. I kind of doubt that is on the horizon.

I could imagine someone making an app that renders your notes in Markdown, of course, but to me that wouldn't be a huge step up from the current workflow of copy/pasting into already existing apps. I could be wrong, though. Maybe some developer will figure out an effortless way to make this happen. At any rate, the trend is not towards specialized features like Markdown (in my opinion). I am not an Evernote employee. I am just speaking as a fellow user on the outside looking in.

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+1 for markdown, it would make life so much easier for me if I can use it. Using markdown means I dont have to be annoyed how stuff gets made pretty.

 

I understand that EN does not make its roadmap available but a single response in 5 years? I am a bit disappointed in that.

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It's funny Markdown is seen as a geek feature but what do I know being a geek? :-) ...

 

If you explain Markdown to someone (and it takes 5 minutes) they ought to be able to get it - and it's a hell of a lot simpler than HTML.

 

FWIW I found it very easy last night to automate in Editorial on iPad sending as an email into Evernote, complete with Notebook Name and Title. Now THAT might be geeky. :-)

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It's funny Markdown is seen as a geek feature but what do I know being a geek? :-) ...

 

If you explain Markdown to someone (and it takes 5 minutes) they ought to be able to get it - and it's a hell of a lot simpler than HTML.

 

FWIW I found it very easy last night to automate in Editorial on iPad sending as an email into Evernote, complete with Notebook Name and Title. Now THAT might be geeky. :-)

 

There are many levels of geekiness out there! I have ranked some of the apps I use on a nerdiness scale (http://www.christopher-mayo.com/?p=51). I think the problem here is that you even want to use plain text at all -- this is where the fact that you have cultivated your geekiness / nerdiness becomes apparent.

 

In my opinion, Evernote is no Angry Birds, and if you even have Evernote on your devices, you probably have a little bit of geek or nerd in you. It is cultivating it to the extent that you desire markdown that really increases your geek/nerd cred.

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One of the nice things about plain text - which is about half of the case for Markdown - is it's readily easy to generate.

 

Now, I haven't ever generated Markdown from a program. But I feel I just might. And one of the nice things about Editorial is that it could do just that. (For example nice footnote management.) And it could do it within the app itself. So this might be my first stab at it.

 

I was just thinking about the Markdown "star for list item" thing: If someone complains about it as introducing strange markup I'd ask "would you rather it were a dot or some other fake bullet character?" It seems to me we use markup in lots of places (I saw a teleprompter with the speaker's name in brackets this morning, for instance) so the barrier to entry is low.

 

But I digress: The currency here is getting it into Evernote, not whether Markdown is a great idea. But it being close to natural is a part of it.

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Since Evernote won't let me pay for good Markdown editing, I decided to pay someone else instead. Byword (http://bywordapp.com/) is a Macintosh app that supports Markdown and MultiMarkdown, and publishes to Evernote. 

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@KenF I like the fact Byword is in both places and supports MultiMarkDown. Editorial, on the other hand, has Python and Automation. Having bought both I'll probably use both - and they weren't expensive enough to only buy one of them. (And I still use Byword on the Mac.)

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For those who prefer to write in Markdown, but want the HTML to reside in Evernote, the Markdown2Evernote service by Brett Terpstra and Martin Kopischke is great. I've also updated it to add wiki functionality. If your interested, my most recent blog post discusses my update, has a download of my version, and links to Martin's most up-to-date version as well: http://bit.ly/17eSfGg 

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Oh man a thousand times yes. Viewing a note before editing could show the web preview edition, then tapping or clicking to edit gives you the markdown. This would be so wonderful I'd dance and spin and sing Evernote's praises from atop the highest mountain I can find in the Chicago area.

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I replied on this post some time ago. Time has passed and, unfortunately, I must bid farewell to Evernote. Please understand:

 

People who use evernote have a motivating REASON behind why they sought out a dedicated platform for organizing their notes. These needs are complex. If evernote tries to cater to "everyone" to increase their market share, they will gain a plethora of random, inconsistent users. Or, they can cater to the customer base that was their inspiration in the first place. These people will never leave them if provided a note-taking application that is truly comprehensive.

 

I was going to pay for evernote premium, but now I can no longer wait on a company who has complete disregard for the needs of an avid taker of notes.

 

Now instead, I use Sublime Text 2 for taking my notes. All of my notes are in text format. Sublime Text has excellent search functionality and is NOT subscription-based. With sublime text I get all the syntax highlighting I want including a way to view markdown in a browser. Sorry evernote, you've lost a customer. I am not just one. There are many out there like me who cannot use your service because you're making the same mistake Microsoft did. You're trying to be everything for everyone, thus diluting the power of your original platform. You're model is ever shifting from lean to bloated.

 

Your strategic planning needs to incorporate the understanding that a market base can support your business if you understand that market and cater to it. But you, like Microsoft and Windows 8, have completely disregarded the signs of the market and needs of your users. Some individual might say that evernote is doing their best with the features of the Trunk. You know what the evernote Trunk is? It's an assortment of appendages to a weak base. Sure, have fun with the add-on products, but NOT before you really have a flagship core that is rock solid DYNAMITE for the avid note-taker! Only then can you comfortably branch out and cater to business individuals seeking a conferencing service... people who want an easy way to send their invoices to evernote... and people who want to obsessively record where they are each second of every day, etc... These are excellent apps and functions, but without the core, they fall over IMHO.

 

 

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Oh man a thousand times yes. Viewing a note before editing could show the web preview edition, then tapping or clicking to edit gives you the markdown. This would be so wonderful I'd dance and spin and sing Evernote's praises from atop the highest mountain I can find in the Chicago area.

 

 

Yes, and there are a bunch of other people willing to do similar feats if only *their* main missing feature were implemented. 

 

 

I replied on this post some time ago. Time has passed and, unfortunately, I must bid farewell to Evernote. Please understand:

 

People who use evernote have a motivating REASON behind why they sought out a dedicated platform for organizing their notes. These needs are complex. If evernote tries to cater to "everyone" to increase their market share, they will gain a plethora of random, inconsistent users. Or, they can cater to the customer base that was their inspiration in the first place. These people will never leave them if provided a note-taking application that is truly comprehensive.

 

I was going to pay for evernote premium, but now I can no longer wait on a company who has complete disregard for the needs of an avid taker of notes.

 

Now instead, I use Sublime Text 2 for taking my notes. All of my notes are in text format. Sublime Text has excellent search functionality and is NOT subscription-based. With sublime text I get all the syntax highlighting I want including a way to view markdown in a browser. Sorry evernote, you've lost a customer. I am not just one. There are many out there like me who cannot use your service because you're making the same mistake Microsoft did. You're trying to be everything for everyone, thus diluting the power of your original platform. You're model is ever shifting from lean to bloated.

 

Your strategic planning needs to incorporate the understanding that a market base can support your business if you understand that market and cater to it. But you, like Microsoft and Windows 8, have completely disregarded the signs of the market and needs of your users. Some individual might say that evernote is doing their best with the features of the Trunk. You know what the evernote Trunk is? It's an assortment of appendages to a weak base. Sure, have fun with the add-on products, but NOT before you really have a flagship core that is rock solid DYNAMITE for the avid note-taker! Only then can you comfortably branch out and cater to business individuals seeking a conferencing service... people who want an easy way to send their invoices to evernote... and people who want to obsessively record where they are each second of every day, etc... These are excellent apps and functions, but without the core, they fall over IMHO.

 

First, I'm sure EN understands if their product does not meet your needs & so you move to something else.

 

Second, in no way does Evernote have "complete disregard for the needs of an avid taker of notes."  Just because they do not meet your needs does not mean they don't meet the needs of many/most of the other users. 

 

Third:  "People who use evernote have a motivating REASON behind why they sought out a dedicated platform for organizing their notes."  Hmmm...  I know many people (including me) who grew tired of transitioning from one platform to another over the years/decades.  One of EN's niches is the multi platform use. 

 

As Jefito says, that's why there is chocolate & vanilla.  Just because EN does not fulfill your needs does not mean it is not already a "rock solid DYNAMITE" product.

 

IMHO.

Exactly!

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I think Markdown is the very best to write quickliy.

 

Evernote has a concept, where Markdown fits perfectly.

 

Just a few weeks ago I did not know about Evernote, and now, I can't think of a morning, I won't take a look on my phone first.

 

A few (useful) futures would be great:

 

As said before:

 

- Markdown

 

Write write write.. Don't have to think about clicking on each word you want to have boldface/italic/etc.

 

Don't have to mark every single heading to set it boldface, maybe underlined, greater size, a.s.o.

 

- ToDo-Lists

 

I found a way to use Evernote as my ToDo-List already.. But.. I can explain..

 

1. set a notebook called ToDo

2. move this notebook to a stack called Important (to not have 'alphabetical problems' i called it ###__IMPORTANT__###)

3. added a new notebook to this stack called Seperate/Timed ToDos (to not have hundreds of notes in THE todo-notebook)

4. added note to ToDo called ...yeah not very good... ToDo (Here I have one List)

5. splitted this list into Today/Then/Special Date/One Day In The Very Future/Tasks Done

 

When I have a thing to do on a special date:

 

1. add a note to Seperate/Timed ToDos called e.g. Birthdaypresent for Rob

2. add an entry Birthdaypresent for Rob to my Special Date section in the ToDo-List

3. link the note I made in (1) to the entry I made in (2)

 

... I think you understand what I mean...

 

And this is (in my opinion) one of the easiest ways to 'construct' a ToDo-List...

 

Gentlemen - Theres a lot to do there ;)

 

- Favorites-Section (like in mac app?)

 

Don't know if I am blind, but I did not found a favorite section neither on Android-App and on Win-App.

 

...Thin this is enough atm.

 

Hope I wrote this in the right section here in the Forum!

 

Except of a few things, Evernote rocks! ;)

 

Use it for Private notes, for ToDo-List (maah.. in a very complicated way..), for organizing websites for a acapella-musicgroup, a faculty at university, for work, for journeys ....

 

Keep up the good work and implement a little more ;)

 

Cheers!

wohfab

 

+1 for the suggestion

 

+2 for the excellent explanation / use case

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+1 for Markdown support.

 

Might I suggest that markdown and its variants can happily replace 90% of what folks do in the average wordprocessor? This means your text is liberated from proprietary formats (although having said that EN is a proprietary format!). The real benefit of Markdown is that is can be converted into just about any format needed easily. As markdown is plain text it would also reduce the file size considerably from RTF.

 

My suggestion for markdown implementation would be similar to many ios apps that show the markdown syntax in grey and immediately render the formatting. The only area that seems to be problematic are links. It would be useful to show them rendered and allow editing via the menu or shortcut key (command+K). Although I'm sure many have better suggestions. IAwriter and Byword on ios have great markdown rendering whilst typing imho.

 

As a side note I don't find EN bloated or overly complex or trying to be all things to all men. There a very few features I do not use apart from some of the formatting as I mainly use plain text and markdown. The great strength of EN for me is that it's a place for everything. Proprietary format files, images, audio, email, web clippings and of course text. If I was using text alone I'd probably go with a wiki, but with EN I essentially need to use very few other apps. I can interlink my info create indexes, use it for GTD and can get everything easily in and easily out. What's not to like? Information no longer comes to me in text only so I need something that caters for that and for my context it beats Devonthink and others. The premium search is awesome! Where others see the subscription and cloud as a problem, for my it provides flexibility and backup. I can as easily get at my info on my iphone or ipad as with my macbook air.

 

Sorry for the digression.

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+1 for Markdown support.

 

Might I suggest that markdown and its variants can happily replace 90% of what folks do in the average wordprocessor? This means your text is liberated from proprietary formats (although having said that EN is a proprietary format!). The real benefit of Markdown is that is can be converted into just about any format needed easily. As markdown is plain text it would also reduce the file size considerably from RTF.

 

My suggestion for markdown implementation would be similar to many ios apps that show the markdown syntax in grey and immediately render the formatting. The only area that seems to be problematic are links. It would be useful to show them rendered and allow editing via the menu or shortcut key (command+K). Although I'm sure many have better suggestions. IAwriter and Byword on ios have great markdown rendering whilst typing imho.

 

As a side note I don't find EN bloated or overly complex or trying to be all things to all men. There a very few features I do not use apart from some of the formatting as I mainly use plain text and markdown. The great strength of EN for me is that it's a place for everything. Proprietary format files, images, audio, email, web clippings and of course text. If I was using text alone I'd probably go with a wiki, but with EN I essentially need to use very few other apps. I can interlink my info create indexes, use it for GTD and can get everything easily in and easily out. What's not to like? Information no longer comes to me in text only so I need something that caters for that and for my context it beats Devonthink and others. The premium search is awesome! Where others see the subscription and cloud as a problem, for my it provides flexibility and backup. I can as easily get at my info on my iphone or ipad as with my macbook air.

 

Sorry for the digression.

 

Appreciate the post; it just seems that Evernote's efforts on its flagship product are being diluted with their efforts on all of their other products: http://evernote.com/products/

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+1 for Markdown support.

 

Might I suggest that markdown and its variants can happily replace 90% of what folks do in the average wordprocessor? This means your text is liberated from proprietary formats (although having said that EN is a proprietary format!). The real benefit of Markdown is that is can be converted into just about any format needed easily. As markdown is plain text it would also reduce the file size considerably from RTF.

 

My suggestion for markdown implementation would be similar to many ios apps that show the markdown syntax in grey and immediately render the formatting. The only area that seems to be problematic are links. It would be useful to show them rendered and allow editing via the menu or shortcut key (command+K). Although I'm sure many have better suggestions. IAwriter and Byword on ios have great markdown rendering whilst typing imho.

 

As a side note I don't find EN bloated or overly complex or trying to be all things to all men. There a very few features I do not use apart from some of the formatting as I mainly use plain text and markdown. The great strength of EN for me is that it's a place for everything. Proprietary format files, images, audio, email, web clippings and of course text. If I was using text alone I'd probably go with a wiki, but with EN I essentially need to use very few other apps. I can interlink my info create indexes, use it for GTD and can get everything easily in and easily out. What's not to like? Information no longer comes to me in text only so I need something that caters for that and for my context it beats Devonthink and others. The premium search is awesome! Where others see the subscription and cloud as a problem, for my it provides flexibility and backup. I can as easily get at my info on my iphone or ipad as with my macbook air.

 

Sorry for the digression.

Lots of good points here. I use Evernote on Windows, Mac, iPhone, and iPad. I use Evernote as my repository for things collected, and I use it to store/develop first drafts of articles. The text tools are inconsistent across the environments and there are bugs. The one glaring need is for paragraph styles in all environments. They are supported in the mobile apps but not the desktop apps. It seems like Markdown can fit right in with styles. The existing Evernote mobile apps support headings, so it seems like HTML heading 1 <H1> and Markdown heading 1 <#> could be handled similarly for those of us who want to work in Markdown then eventually deploy outside of Evernote. With Markdown support, Evernote would be even more amazingly useful! 

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@Mike Korner with your talk of "paragraph styles" I think it points out there's a "level agreement" between Markdown and the expressiveness (or lack of) of the Evernote data stream: There's not much in (Multi)Markdown that can't directly translate into ENML and vice versa. HTML has far too much to strip out on its way to ENML.

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@Mike Korner with your talk of "paragraph styles" I think it points out there's a "level agreement" between Markdown and the expressiveness (or lack of) of the Evernote data stream: There's not much in (Multi)Markdown that can't directly translate into ENML and vice versa. HTML has far too much to strip out on its way to ENML.

 

@Martin,

 

I don't want Evernote to read/translate HTML. Let me explain ... 

 

I can already put a plain text note in Evernote today that uses MultiMarkdown syntax. Evernote just needs to add  the ability to translate an existing note containing MultiMarkdown into ENML (either permanently or for previewing). 

 

Here's a use case: When I start a new idea on the iPhone, for example, I type in MultiMarkdown then make the choice whether to have DRAFTS (the iPhone App I use) convert to my MultiMarkdown to ENML, HTML, or leave it in MultiMarkdown. The decision depends on what I'm going to do next ...

  • If I know I'm done and just want to store the note in Evernote, I go with ENML so it looks pretty when it arrives in Evernote.
  • If I know I'm not done and will continue writing later, I usually stick with MultiMarkdown. Then I can grab the MultiMarkdown out of Evernote and use it with whatever computer/tool I'm using then. Sure I could use Dropbox and a .txt file but that gets unruly fast with multiple files in play. Evernote is a far better file cabinet, if you will. Instead of having to manually grab the MultiMarkdown from the Evernote note and work on it using a separate text tool, I'd rather work with my MultiMarkdown in Evernote (because I have it everywhere). All Evernote needs to do is give the ability to preview (in pretty form) the MultiMarkdown or convert it permanently to ENML (and hopefully a separate option for the equivalent HTML). Generally these notes will eventually get published outside of Evernote using Wordpress/HTML or a PDF file.

Hopefully that makes sense. 

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Those using a mac might be interested in a workflow of sorts that automates preview of EN notes in Markdown.

 

Requirements:

Keyboard Maestro (or similar)

Marked

Byword

 

Attached is the Keyboard Maestro workflow:

 

 

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I created a document called EvernoteSelection.md as this means I don't need to interact with any dialogue boxes.

 

I did try using the "Write to a file" action, but it seemed to mess up the markdown somehow.

 

Perhaps someone with better knowledge can improve on the workflow.

 

Of course anytime you make changes to the EN you need to run, but I find using the keyboard shortcut makes it fairly instant.

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+1

 

Frankly, it's hard to believe (Multi)Markdown support still hasn't been added to Evernote.

 

Aside from all the reasons already covered for why Markdown support should exist, there's now the Presentation Mode. I'd love to be able to make use of this new feature but the current lack of Markdown support makes it practically useless…

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+1 for markdown support. This is a highly requested feature throughout our business user core. As an admin for our Business account I get to field questions on this every week. It would be a really great feature to see in the next version. 

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+1 multimarkdown support - especially now that I've discovered http://www.postach.io as a blogging platform that integrates with EN and supports markdown.

I think it has got to be implemented well, though. Personally, I like how VoodooPad and nvALT handle it -- notes in plain text on one side and html version on the other. Press ctrl + cmd + p and it displays the html. Press it again and it closes. Simple, right?

What about tabs, though? I am not sure how that will work, because Evernote doesn't recognize tabs as a plain text note would. I think there are lots of other nice things that plain text programs do. If Evernote could incorporate those WITH the markup, then this would work beautifully.

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Markdown is a great way to format notes. It is simple, efficient and is a great timesaver.

 

Markdown is used a bunch in the computer engineering world (GitHub & StackOverflow use markdown).

 

And I will note that if I create a simple note from Evernote, pasted it into the VI editor from my Mac or Windows boxes, the result ends up looking very, very close to GitHub-flavored Markdown. Bold and Italic doesn't render correctly, but bulleted lists and numbered lists work great and Task List items (e.g. [ ] in GFM):

testbolditalic[ ]todo[ ]todo2   * Bullet   * Bullet2  1. number list  2. number list2

What does this mean, it means that Evernote is already part way there.

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A massive +1 for this feature request from my side.

 

I'm a premium user since years, but really about to let my subscription run out end of the current period. Why? Because writing, styling and editing notes is broken. Browsing my notes, which come from various devices and sources is a visual mess! I am designer and programmer, therefore I'm sensitive about that. But I don't have much demand of Evernote styling my notes at all. I just want simple markup: defining headlines, bold, italic, bullet point lists, quotes, preformatted code. That's about it. And I would like to be able doing this from any device in a consistent matter. The method of manually selecting a larger font size for headlines does not make sense (let alone I can't even select e.g. 20pt on all devices!). I just want to say it's a H1 (or a #).

 

I'm aware: we demanding this are probably not the average Evernote user. But we are the ones caring. Don't let the geeky early adopters run away to the competitors. You know they are the ones that made you what you are today.

 

Thanks for listening.

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I'm aware: we demanding this are probably not the average Evernote user. But we are the ones caring. Don't let the geeky early adopters run away to the competitors. You know they are the ones that made you what you are today.

 

Not really are what that comment about "the ones caring" is supposed to mean. And guess what...all 65+ million users are the ones who made Evernote what it is today...as well as the Evernote developers.

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@psteinweber Just curious: Do you really have no workarounds at all? Thinking of e.g. Byword on Mac and Editorial on iPad.

 

Martin, At some point it becomes easier to just use the workarounds instead of Evernote. That's a shame. I use Evernote on an iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Windows computer today. I also have to have a text editor workaround on each device. That's a shame. It feel like Evernote has gone out of its way to enhance/fix about everything but its text editor. For example, the new reminders and presentation features are nice, but it would be great to get a little love in the text editor so we can quit looking at workarounds. I love Evernote but the text part of it is painful in places. I'm never going to use Evernote for Presentations, for example, because it's too painful to put the text together. I have to manually format headings, body text, etc. And worse, I have to manually apply the same formats over and over and over and over. Add in a few text handling bugs and it's pretty annoying. 

 

Adding simple styles seems reasonable and Markdown is just one option. I want to use Evernote for collecting and working on article ideas, then when it's time to move a note from Evernote (due to needing some capabilities beyond what Evernote is built for), I want to get the text out of Evernote quickly so I can keep using the text without a bunch of reformatting. 

 

I'm as big of Evernote fan as there is -- I'm a premium member as an act of support (not because I need the extra capacity) -- but with all the workarounds I have in place I'm starting to think my premium $$$ would be better spent on better workaround tools. That's a shame since the text suggestions are basic features available in all of the workaround tools I'm using. 

 

Just sharing my perspective on why things like Markdown are being requested. 

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@Mike Korner I agree. I was just curious about how people are coping with the lack of support. With the various workarounds on the various platforms.

 

Personally I sort of have it covered on numerous platforms but not my main one: Linux. I guess I should there do like I did on iOS with Editorial: Hack together a "Markdown to HTML and email into Evernote" workaround.

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I write just about everything in markdown. I do it out of a desire to be as future proof, or at least future resistant, as possible. I've moved through several note-taking programs over the years, and the markdown stuff has shown its value. My notes look nice everywhere, except for Evernote, which doesn't support markdown.

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On the Linux front rdiscount is command line and therefore scriptable. Shouldn't be too hard to wrap it together with a MIME email command.

But this ISN'T round trip.

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@psteinweber Just curious: Do you really have no workarounds at all? Thinking of e.g. Byword on Mac and Editorial on iPad.

There are two big problems with workarounds and third party apps.

1. They introduce another unnecessary layer of complexity, which increases the chance of bugs, adds another layer of support issues (is the product even going to be around in 6 months) and make my life more complicated in general. Evernote is supposed to simplify and organize my life, and if it becomes too complicated to use then I stop using it.

 

2. Workaround and third party apps don't work consistantly across platforms, and often third party apps only work on one platform. This means I need to use one work flow on a Mac and a second workflow on Windows. Evernote already has enough cross-platform inconsistancies which interfere with my willingness to use Evernote.

 

Markdown is fairly simple, and could provide a consistant, simple editing abilities on Windows, Mac and the web platforms.

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Giving Evernote a spin after organizing most of my life with a variety of Emacs packages (including Markdown). Really surprised something so simple as a text transformation isn't part of the package, especially given how many reads and responses this topic has.

 

For what it's worth, another +1 for markdown support (or some capability that allows others to write such a plugin).

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Since this thread was started in 2008, personally I don't believe EN will implement this. I am a bit disappointed…

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Adding my voice to the chorus for Markdown support. Having a Markdown live preview is a plus, but for a start, how about being able to save the Markdown text as plain text?

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Yet another +1 for markdown support. Feels like a such a great match to the entire Evernote philosophy.

A step in the right direction would be to allow users to enter straight HTML into notes. This would allow or ease a number of work-arounds.

Looking forward to this.

Thx // pwever

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A step in the right direction would be to allow users to enter straight HTML into notes. This would allow or ease a number of work-arounds.

The problem with this is that the Evernote note format doesn't support all HTML tags (more info here: http://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/enml.php), so there'd need to be an extra layer of error-checking / identification before a note could be saved. But if you want to do that sort fo stuff, there is a workaround: http://enml-editor.ping13.net/

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Since this thread was started in 2008, personally I don't believe EN will implement this.

It's certainly possible. AFAIK, EN has never stated they ever would implement this. (And they typically do not publish their road map or ETAs anyway.)

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Maybe you could have a look at Drafts from Agile Tortoise in the AppStore ? It is a plain text editor with support to Markdown. It has many way to export to other apps. I'm using it to write notes with Markdown then sending it directly to EN. Works real fine !

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I agree with the need for (Multi)Markdown support with Evernote. If I ever quit my Premium membership, this will probably be the reason. In the meanwhile I am testing Markdown Here add-on and the Byword app, which can publish to Evernote. However, being able to freely toggle in Evernote would be the best. 

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This is something that EN needs to address. Formatting a note with the GUI is a chore.

They have. See post #2.

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+1

 

Been transitioning over to Evernote for EVERYTHING and love the efficiency of a cloudy one-stop-shop EXCEPT that it's inability to handle Markdown (or even just simple code snippet insert) is causing quite a bit of pain.  Would really love to see this added.  Cheers!

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