RobW

Android (Archived) Evernote Smart Notebook by Moleskine for Android

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Hey folks,

This is my first post here, so I hope I'm putting it in the right place. Apologies if it isn't.

I have been drooling over the Evernote Moleskine since it was announced but unfortunately being an Android user it's not good to me at the moment (seriously, why does Android continue to get a bum rap?). However, as an artist/ writer/ teacher I'm often scribbling and sketching in notebooks for various ideas.. The way I would use Moleskine would be to make a record of all these ideas and then delete any that become irrelevant, so I'd have an easily accessible record of those ideas I want to keep hold of.

As Moleskine isn't available to we Android users yet I'm wondering if there is a 'workaround' for us we can use until it becomes available. At the moment I'm thinking we could use something like CamScanner to make copies of those notes. Then, we could upload them to Evernote, just having to add tags and indicate what notebook it should be in manually. I've not had the chance to really try this out yet, but it is a theory.

Has anyone else tried to "emulate" Moleskine on Android yet? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts/ how you went.

Cheers.

Hi. If I understand what you are saying, you mean that you want to write notes on paper, scan that (scanner or camera scanner), and attach those images to a note in Evernote, right? Sure! I've been doing that for years :)

The only difference with Moleskine is that you can do all of this from within the iOS app, and the stickers will apply the tags automatically. If you want to emulate this behavior, you can make a sticker of your own (all sorts of sticker/label makers out there) and stick it on the paper yourself with a number (see this post about random codes http://www.princeton.edu/~cmayo/evernote-organization.html). You won't get the tags, but you will get the OCR results that will enable you to put something like "80b1749" into the search field and filter for only the notes with this code for "student sketch" or "927fh0" for "teacher sketch". It doesn't matter. You can tag them later as you like (they are now filtered for you to do that easily), or don't even bother with tags (me). You don't necessarily need the stickers, but in my experience, my handwriting is so terrible that Evernote cannot recognize it.

Alternatively, you could just scan the paper with whatever program you want to use (or scanner) and email it into your account. If you put #<name of existing tag here> into the subject line of your email, it will get tagged automatically without any fuss.

The Moleskine notebooks are beautiful, and it is a nice integration, so I definitely think it will be cool with Android. However, until then, I think this would be a nice workaround.

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The only difference with Moleskine is that you can do all of this from within the iOS app

Yes, but that's the whole point, it's only available for iOS thus far.

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The only difference with Moleskine is that you can do all of this from within the iOS app

Yes, but that's the whole point, it's only available for iOS thus far.

Well, yes, that is true :) I thought you were looking for workarounds, though.

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Lack of Android support for Moleskine for this long really sucks. I can see a lag of a month or so, but this delay makes me wonder about Evernote's commitment to their new products.

I wish there was a notification service to which we can subscribe to see when the product is ready. I keep scanning upgrade notes looking for some mention, but so far nothing, and it might not even show if it is a stand-alone app.

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Lack of Android support for Moleskine for this long really sucks. I can see a lag of a month or so, but this delay makes me wonder about Evernote's commitment to their new products.

I wish there was a notification service to which we can subscribe to see when the product is ready. I keep scanning upgrade notes looking for some mention, but so far nothing, and it might not even show if it is a stand-alone app.

Hi. If you subscribe to the announcements (www.evernote.com > Settings > Personal Settings > Emails) and the blog (http://blog.evernote.com/ > see the Email and RSS signups on the right) then you will hear about it immediately. The blog posts (usually by the head of marketing, Andrew Sinkov) are extremely timely and will give you the information you want. You'll notice that it just got updated today, for example, with information about the Mac version of Evernote.

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It really does suck. What pisses me off is how no one is really confirming if it's actually in the works or not. It may never be supported to begin with, and that would be a bummer.

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It really does suck. What pisses me off is how no one is really confirming if it's actually in the works or not. It may never be supported to begin with, and that would be a bummer.

I thought they were working on it, but we just don't know when. This has been reported in at least one tech blog ("The Evernote iOS app recently received a "Page Camera" feature, which takes pictures of written notes and optimizes it for digital archiving. Basically, it improves contrast, removes shadows and sharpens text. (An Evernote spokesperson told us that this feature will be added to the Android app by early next year. However, you can still snap pictures and attach them to notes in the Android version." http://asia.cnet.com/hands-on-evernote-smart-notebook-by-moleskine-62218957.htm), but more importantly, Evernote is pretty strongly committed to the Android platform. This stuff just takes time, I guess.

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No, it doesn't take this amount of time. Trust me. They probably have some kind of deal to release it for iOS exclusively for let's say six months first, and then it would be available for Android later on.

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No, it doesn't take this amount of time. Trust me. They probably have some kind of deal to release it for iOS exclusively for let's say six months first, and then it would be available for Android later on.

I have no knowledge of the inner workings at Evernote, so I can't speak to that, but the Android app still doesn't support formatting, so I figured a major upgrade like Moleskine integration would have to follow on the heels of a major upgrade to the app. That seems more likely to me than a conspiracy to make Moleskine exclusive to iOS for a certain period of time.

I have heard, however, that the Moleskine Android app was exclusive to Samsung (or some other maker) for a certain period of time, so I imagine that might have had some impact, but I cannot see exactly how. In the end, we just have to wait. There are workarounds, and things are improving at a good pace (in my opinion), so hopefully not much longer.

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By the way, if you want to hear directly from the Elephant's mouth, then take a listen to the Evernote Podcast ("Evernote Podcast #35: Intelligentsy Episode" 18 January 2013, 1:00:07 http://blog.evernote.com/blog/2013/01/18/intelligentsy-episode/) from 49:20 to 51:15. I think the take-away here is that Android is fragmented and implementing anything is a tough thing to do on the platform. It is on the way, and will hopefully be here soon.

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Thank you, that clears up a lot regarding that topic. I appreciate it.

Glad to help. Let's hope that 2013 sees a lot of great new stuff for Android. By the way, I am pretty sure the CTO of the company uses Android gear, so there is at least one person on the inside at the top pushing for Android improvements :)

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As a loyal Molskine and Evernote user I was very excited about the possibilities of this mash up. As soon as i heard about it I posted my excitement on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. I pointed my wife to it as a perfect gift for me. With my fresh new Moleskine (always a moment of anticipation and joy) and a long plane ride (without WiFi) I was ready to do a brain dump and see what this baby can do.

Wuh, wuh, whu. I spent the better part of my cab ride and searching for what I was doing wrong. Turns out Evernote might get to it someday and Moleskine has not idea. WTF??

As an Android user I'm disappointed in Evernote's indifference (they could have easily learned how many Android users they have; I use it on all platforms and devices.) in their support and Molskine's vague packaging--it should explain what it does and how, not just potential uses. The whole collaboration smacks of either ignorance or a scam to upgrade to pro services. Either way, they haven't executed it well and this has tainted my impulse to use either.

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Really looking forward to the ability to use the Moleskine and Evernote features soon on my Android!

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I understand that part of the Moleskine integration of EN on IOS is the "page camera", which cleans up the image of the notebook page taken with the iphone's camera. This sounds indeed similar to what "scanner" apps like camscanner offer.

 

I am using camscanner for any paper notes I want to get into Evernote, the results are excellent and the difference to a straight picture is quite striking. The quality is in fact so good that I more or less stopped using a scanner, even for A4 size pages (I am German, A4 is staple food for me and I also use it to take handwritten notes  :) ). Before this turns into an add for camscanner let me say that other apps like genius scan etc. probably work just as well.

 

Recently I added one more small step into my workflow: After taking the picture with camscanner on full resolution, I share the result to a little app called "reduce photo size", which will do what it says, and from there I share it to Evernote - and that's it. Sounds complicated? The whole process takes about 15s for a business card, and the result is without any distortions, illumination is even, it is very crisp and sharp and just takes 50KB.

 

So, even if the Moleskine features will one day be available in Evernote for Android, I will not buy a Moleskine notebook - it's not A4...

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I have both of the above apps interested in what format you are reducing to in Reduce photo size, there seems to be such a choice, pity there isn't a default setting.

So all pics are ame format after reducing

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Yes, there is almost too much choice, and I cannot claim that the following is based on any real testing - it just works for me.

 

I always use the full resolution of the camera in camscanner, which in my case is 8M. In reduce photo size, I use SVGA for business cards (this will give a file of around 50K), and WXGA for a page of printed A4 (this results in a file of about 150K). File sizes also depend a lot on content, e.g. pictures.

 

In case of business cards, I share the jpg file directly from reduce photo size to Evernote, in case of printed A4 I prefer a pdf and therefore share it back from reduce photo size to camscanner, which will create the pdf, and from there to Evernote.

 

 

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