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Reducing Storage Size of Images

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Please consider an improvement to Evernote regarding the overall file size in terms of bytes for images stored within notes.  Some images might get added to a note simply for viewing the image at a later point in time, and for this viewing-only purpose, the image doesn't need to be stored within the note using an amount of storage bytes that is a larger than necessary.  Perhaps there can be an option to optimize the image in terms of the overall file size of a stored image.

Here is one scenario I encountered that resulted in a 1.4 megabyte image within a note:
Using the built-in camera on the iPhone 8 Plus, I took a picture of an object.  The phone was set to save pictures taken by the camera in "legacy" format which results in a JPG image.  I then viewed the image using the Photos app on the phone, to then create a new note within Evernote to contain this image.  The photo taken by the phone's camera captured a larger area than the actual object, so I cropped the image to the edges of the object using the crop function within Evernote.  The cropped image was 1.4 megaytes in file size, and I know for certain that an image like this could exist at a much smaller file size and still be adequately viewable.

My technical wisdom leads me to think that Evernote maintains the original binary structure of an image after a crop is done, which would explain what I am considering to be the larger than necessary file size of 1.4 megabytes, so please consider my idea to offer an option whereby the user can choose to optimize an image to reduce the file size.

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So I tested this out using the Windows application:

  • I found a note containing a single image.
  • I duplicated that note.
  • In the duplicate note, I right clicked and opened up the image in aan image editor (Paint.Net)
  • Cropped the image to a smaller center rectangle, and saved it.
  • On return from Paint.Net, the note's image was seen to be correctly cropped.
  • To compare: the original note was reported at 310KB, and the duplicated note was reported at 37K. 
  • I then exported both notes to disk in Evernote format, and verified that the exported note sizes were also correct.

So what could be the cause of what you're seeing, aside from the fact that you're using a different OS than me? One thing that popped into my mind is that in cropping oyur image, you cropped out stuff that was non-complex, i.e. easily compressible, while the common center section remained possibly less easily compressible, and if your side reporting units were KB rather than bytes, you may not have noticed an difference. The thing to do in your situation is to run a test like I did, with duplicate notes, editing one and comparing results. That sghould tell a more complete story.

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17 hours ago, IT Consultant said:

I cropped the image to the edges of the object using the crop function within Evernote.

I used Evernote/IOS to crop an image.

It clearly reduced the size of the image.  I could see this in note details, and rbe actual image files.

IMG_3068.jpeg.52ac862cb22692fe97bfc8be6f8cc191.jpeg   >>>>  IMG_3067.jpeg.bcc11ee1ee96ffe81f1139c2c70f181a.jpeg

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How can you crop a picture inside of EN / iOS ? I have not discovered this option yet.

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55 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

How can you crop a picture inside of EN / iOS ? I have not discovered this option yet.

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Yes, i have found this. But it will cut parts of the picture away (which is the concept of cropping, I know).

What I was looking for is a reduction of file size (typically by reducing the resolution / pushing up the compression rate of the JPEG-compression) without visually cutting parts of the picture away.

To achieve this I currently use the app PicsArt, which is a nuisance, because in the free version it forces a lot of ads on you. But it is the only simple app I know that will reduce the file size without modifying the picture. Just the resolution drops, depending on your input.

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16 hours ago, PinkElephant said:

What I was looking for is a reduction of file size (typically by reducing the resolution / pushing up the compression rate of the JPEG-compression) without visually cutting parts of the picture away.

This is just an issue between you and your image editor, and not really much to do with Evernote..If you can do it in place and then just save/quit as is done via cropping, then that should work fine.

Just waiting for the original poster to to retry their cropping example, because my technical wisdom leads me to believe that Evernote handles this correctly.

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I'd like 'Simplify formatting' to offer to compress images for me quickly and easily, without having to worry about the technicalities.

I almost always want the image as a small thumbnail to remind me what it's about, not to provide huge detail, and I also want fast (therefore small) notebooks.

Ideally 'Simplify formatting' would tell me the size of the note now, and estimate what it could reduce it to with various levels of compression.

Ideally with the option to take me through each image in turn, with storage used, and options for the size in the note and compression levels, plus option to delete it completely.

Cropping would be an added bonus, but I find most of my images come in to Evernote cropped already.

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On 5/7/2019 at 11:46 PM, IT Consultant said:

Please consider an improvement to Evernote regarding the overall file size in terms of bytes for images stored within notes. 

 

51 minutes ago, Wilf Forrow said:

I'd like 'Simplify formatting' to offer to compress images for me quickly and easily, without having to worry about the technicalities.

I use the attachment feature to store images in notes, and I appreciate the inline display.

When it comes to editing the images, I use external software.  

I believe this is better handled by dedicated apps, and don't want to see Evernote bloated with such extraneous functions.

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3 hours ago, Wilf Forrow said:

I'd like 'Simplify formatting' to offer to compress images for me quickly and easily, without having to worry about the technicalities.

Problem is that an image is not formatting; it's content. The "Simplify formatting" command would be a poor UI choice for this sort of functionality. A more appropriate command like "Convert to thumbnail" would be better, though you still would need to parameterise what you mean by a thumbnail (e.g., desired dimensions).

4 hours ago, Wilf Forrow said:

Ideally 'Simplify formatting' would tell me the size of the note now, and estimate what it could reduce it to with various levels of compression.

Ideally with the option to take me through each image in turn, with storage used, and options for the size in the note and compression levels, plus option to delete it completely.

Cropping would be an added bonus, but I find most of my images come in to Evernote cropped already.

Ultimately, these seem to imply workflows that are more complicated than you claim to want initially: you'd need to parameterize (i.e. prompt for or have separate settings for) thumbnail dimensions, among other things

I could certainly see a separate "Create Thumbnail" command, or ever better a "Create Snippet Thumbnail" command that resizes the selected image to become the image used in views that use note thumbnails (e.g. Windows Snippet view), meaning it would be the winner of the "largest-smallest" criterion for selecting a note's displayed thumbnail. Might actually increase the size of an image, but it would be really useful, considering the number of people who've asked for the ability to designate a selected image as an Evernote thumbnail.

 

 

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