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Better Android Handwriting Support Please!

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I totally agree with this topic. I just bought a Samsung S3 Tablet. I tried OneNote and Samsung Notes. Evernote product is much better in many aspects, but the handwriting support of evernote is really worse. The lack of support for pressure sensitive input from s-pen is disturbing. And the pen could have more lower thickness.

I almost migrate to OneNote this year. Please improve handwriting support.

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I just fired up Evernote after almost 2 years of inactivity. I just got a Samsung Tablet S3 and I love the pen. I would consider upgrading to Premium if Evernote supported the s-pen using the Samsung Android SDK. This would reduce the lag greatly and probably offer more features. http://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/pen

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Just bought a  Samsung Tab S3 and I would much like to see S Pen support improved in Evernote. Samsung Notes works great with the pen but it's lacking in features that Evernote has had for years. I'd gladly pay for a subscription if Evernote support for the stylus worked well.

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I would also like to add a request for Google pixelbook & pixel pen support.

I use Evernote for everything, but I am having to find alternatives (Squid, nebo) to take handwritten notes and then import them in a horribly convoluted way which is a pain!

If the handwriting feature was more advanced in evernote then I wouldn't need to consider others.

 

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Another +1 from my side. 

I am an Evernote premium user for many years (it is literally my extended brain, I place there all my notes, daily planing, and anything I want to note down.... I love it). Recently I got a Samsung galaxy tab s3 with s-pen (Android), to further improve my note taking flow and especially to be able to also add handwritten notes directly on my notes. I think more and more people will do this. In my case I want to stop taking notes on paper then take photos and copy them there, etc (go paperless) and get all my notes where they should be - Evernote for me. 

I am really underwhelmed by the basic handwritten support of evernote... I actually like the simplistic interface. However, it is so basic and writing is not even very responsive for me, which makes the experience of taking notes directly on evernote practically impossible (for me). This really means not being able to use it properly, especially after trying Samsung notes or any other reasonwble note-taking app... So my current workflow is rather fragmented and error-prone: take my handwritten notes on samsung notes, export them as image to a special notebook on evernote (manually) then (when I remember) copy the image to a note where I have some pre-meeting/event notes and points of discussion already.... I tend to forget some of these steps, and even worse, sometimes I revisit handwriten notes and make changes (recapping things, etc) and then need to again go throw all the steps and replace the image... It is not nice... but I really tried to use evernote handwritten notes but they are just too far from the others that I have to go through this painful set of steps... 

I know there is Penultimate for ios (which is also a product by evernote), but I think the idea of having this feature within the product will make many people happier (instead of using another app, sync the note to evernote as an image...). 

I think the original message pretty much covers my request for features extensions, I leave bellow some extra remarks (some redundant, sorry):

  • Improve responsiveness (maybe it is just me and one can get use to it, but there is a real delay, which makes it difficult to write...) 
  • Pressure sensitive 
  • Thin pen, it is really think now (even the thinnest one...) 
  • Maybe multiple pen types (I don't care so much, but it is nice to have two or three types) 

If I can give any other feedback please let me know... As mentioned above, this is becoming a rather popular way of taking notes and it is really a pitty to have these limitations (basic support) on our beloved Evernote. 

Cheers. 

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30 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

@terablade2001, you've said several times that Evernote's Android handwriting feature is "garbage," but I wonder if you could be more specific about how it fails for you. I'm sorry if this should be obvious, but I don't use this feature much, and I'd like to know more about its strengths and weaknesses. It might also be helpful if any Evernote staff check this thread and are looking for specific ideas to improve it.

I say that Evernote's (android at least) handwriting feature is garbage because its impossible to keep actual notes there, while i.e. you are watching a seminar. I mostly think this is due to low response time of that feature. This may intepreted as lag between writting and displaying; writting fast and seing the ink displayed with lag is confusing. To understand the difference you have to actually use stylus on Evernote's handwriting feature and on other apps.

Futhermore features like:

*Make use of stulys button to switch temporary to eraser.

*Provide more colors (and user defined color)  for pencils/pens.

*Provide colors for background page

* Provide some templates for background for example typical horizontal lines, to write straight on them.

*For writting lag when zoom-in (there the application just sucks as the lag increases).

*Provide marker pencils (e.g. mark with color words).

would make the feature even better. But most important is to reduce lag between writting and displaying.

I think its algorithmic matter. Try for example make a small filled dot (e.g. listing dot). I doesn't displayed unless you pull up the stylus or increase the bullets radius. That's unacceptable!!!

32 minutes ago, DTLow said:

 


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Em 02/01/2018 at 02:52, EvernotePat disse:

Hi, I am a user of Evernote Premium and I love the core Evernote ideology of having the best search around. However, I am very interested in using evernote for digital note taking via handwriting on a Samsung tablet with s-pen. The following are a few features that would make this functionality much more useful to me:

1. More stroke width options - The smallest stroke width is still way too big for me. I want to be able to write small.

2. Ability to set background to lined paper

3. Support for pressure sensitive input from s-pen, asus pen, etc.

4. Ability to zoom in/out and pan - Currently it just lets me add pages. I do not like writing close to the edges of the tablet because it is not comfortable when I am writing on the couch.

5. More pen colors and highlighting.

Upvote if you also want one or more of these features.

Thank you for making my experience the best it can be. Please let me know if any of this functionality is in the works or when I could expect to see these.

Voto

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On 1/23/2018 at 8:33 PM, asciimo said:

I just fired up Evernote after almost 2 years of inactivity. I just got a Samsung Tablet S3 and I love the pen. I would consider upgrading to Premium if Evernote supported the s-pen using the Samsung Android SDK. This would reduce the lag greatly and probably offer more features. http://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/pen

Honestly I would only need the erase button as a first step, always selecting the eraser manually is extremely frustrating.

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2 horas atrás, loiterbaer disse:

Honestly I would only need the erase button as a first step, always selecting the eraser manually is extremely frustrating.

I think that exists a solution more elegant: erase with a finger (like the app Squid does). To scrolling through the page, use two fingers (as evernote already does). The implementation of this feature pass through the detection of stylus pen. 

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Hi, has handwriting for Evernote improved on a Galaxy Tab S3? I am thinking about buying one... Thank you!

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@Comote I am not sure if it has improved, as I never used it before (on other tablets). However, as I mention it still is very poor when compared with other handwriting note apps - which is still a deal breaker to me (on adopting Evernote Handwriting feature for all handwritten notes...). Apart from that, I love the tablet and my workflow now is to use Samsung Notes and then export as image to Evernote... I really don't love this workflow, but it was the best I could come up with - to still use Evernote as my "single point of notes" and benefit from my Samsung S3 to take very nice handwritten notes...

...this is the reason I really would love a bit more of effort on this feature! :)

Cheers!

 

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I have the same issue here. I've been a premium user for a few years and now i'm considering changing because of its poor handwritting experience with the S Pen.
One note is doing a great job in that topic. Samsung note does as well.

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On 1/29/2019 at 8:34 AM, Eduardo Silva said:

@Comote I am not sure if it has improved, as I never used it before (on other tablets). However, as I mention it still is very poor when compared with other handwriting note apps - which is still a deal breaker to me (on adopting Evernote Handwriting feature for all handwritten notes...). Apart from that, I love the tablet and my workflow now is to use Samsung Notes and then export as image to Evernote... I really don't love this workflow, but it was the best I could come up with - to still use Evernote as my "single point of notes" and benefit from my Samsung S3 to take very nice handwritten notes...

...this is the reason I really would love a bit more of effort on this feature! :)

Cheers!

 

Thank you!

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As Evernote is all about note taking, it would seem obvious that s-pen, stylus, entry with handwriting would be a priority.  Handwritten notes are largely how Big ideas are born.   The handwriting feature is so lame, that I can't use that feature of my Evernote, or choose not to because it limits my creative output.  Please improve.  

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Hello premium user here  Yes pleae improve handwriting experience which now it is terrible with s-pen. One Note is becoming an appealing alternative.

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+1 from Premium user

Very happy with other options and cross-platform performance. But the handwriting underperforms compared to so many other apps. If not improving the handwritten option, then perhaps create compatibility with implementing Samsung Notes (which does work adequate)?

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Hi, @RemAmmmm, and welcome to the forums. Just be sure to indicate your support for the idea by clicking on the upward pointing arrow at the top of the page. Currently, despite all the positive comments, it's only got 17 votes.

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Brauchbare Handschriftliche Notizen in Evernote zu erstellen ist nachezu unmöglich. Jedoch finde ich die Überschrift falsch gedacht. Es sollte einen Übergreifende Unterstützung für Handschriftliche Notizen für alle Betriebssysteme geben, auf denen Evernote läuft (Android, Windows, IOS, Macos). Keine Einzellösung für bestimmte Betriebssysteme. 
Im Moment experementiere ich viel mit One Note herum (Läuft auf allen Systemen).


Meine Überlegungen:
Wenn Evernote nicht die nötige Kompetenz im eigenen Haus hat, sollte eine enstrechende Software hinzugekauft und implementiert werden (Z.B. Incredible, bietet funktionierende Lösung für IOS und Android).  

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Moin, das Forum läuft (weitgehend) in English, gerne auch in „broken“.

Some will read and understand, and the rest will have some fun trying to translate.

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1 hour ago, therob said:

Creating useful handwritten notes in Evernote is almost impossible. ...

At the moment I'm experimenting a lot with One Note (runs on all systems).
 My thoughts:
 If Evernote does not have the necessary in-house expertise, it should be purchased and implemented ...

 -Translated by Google-

Evernote's core editor functions are text based, and a sketch feature is not a great solution for note-taking

My solution is to use an external note-taking editor.  
Evernote did purchase Penultimate, but I prefer the Notability app on my iPad

I store the documents  in Evernote as file attachments; in both native and PDF format

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Evernote 's handwriting feature is just garbage.

Me and my collages are using SM-T820 to keep notes and drawings. Although we do use Evernote a lot (most of us annually paying) we just can't use that feature. We are forced to use external high quality apps (im using INKredible Pro) to do our job, but they do not integrate with Evernote directly. Thus our handwriting notes can't be stored in Evernote.

It's just a shame that Evernote does not support at least a decent handwriting engine for at least some standard devices like SM-T820 with S-Pen, but instead it does provide a garbage engine for handwriting, which can be used only by babies for basic drawing.

😡

 

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21 hours ago, terablade2001 said:

Evernote 's handwriting feature is just garbage.

Me and my collages are using SM-T820 to keep notes and drawings. Although we do use Evernote a lot (most of us annually paying) we just can't use that feature. We are forced to use external high quality apps (im using INKredible Pro) to do our job, but they do not integrate with Evernote directly. Thus our handwriting notes can't be stored in Evernote.

It's just a shame that Evernote does not support at least a decent handwriting engine for at least some standard devices like SM-T820 with S-Pen, but instead it does provide a garbage engine for handwriting, which can be used only by babies for basic drawing.

😡

 

Please be sure to indicate your support for the idea by clicking on the upward pointing arrow at the top of the page. Can INKredible Pro export to JPG or PDF? Those files could be attached to Evernote notes.

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23 hours ago, terablade2001 said:

use external high quality apps (im using INKredible Pro) to do our job  ... Thus our handwriting notes can't be stored in Evernote.

I'm a fan of using "external high quality apps"   
Evernote can store files of any format as note attachments; I store my handwriting notes in Evernote

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On 11/29/2019 at 8:47 PM, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Please be sure to indicate your support for the idea by clicking on the upward pointing arrow at the top of the page. Can INKredible Pro export to JPG or PDF? Those files could be attached to Evernote notes.

INKredible Pro can export the notes to PDF / PNG and the files to be attached to Evernote. But then the Evernote is used worst than file storage because PDF / PNG are not editable (as handwritten data) any more.

If I keep the INKredible Pro file format files to Evernote then they are not viewable / editable unless they imported back to the application.

In any case, Evernote handwrite feature is the desired behavior (viewable and editable from evernote direcly - not using other apps which they do insert delayes and extra procedures) but the handwrite editor of Evernote is just garbage as I already have told.

I have the impression that the handwrite feature of Evernote, is just a useless “candy“ just to say that Evernote support handwritten notes compared to other apps (like i.e. MS Notes). I think Evernote should give emphasis in fixing that feature thus to be actually useful and not just garbage. A lot of people are using stylus to keep digital notes and Evernote is shutting the door on them, while it could provide them a competitive solution integrated with all the other features of Evernote. If at least the editor had a very good responsiveness to stylus (as almost all other apps have), it would be a good reason to use it. Now it's just impossible to write normally. Just to clumsy draw things...

On 11/29/2019 at 9:40 PM, DTLow said:

I'm a fan of using "external high quality apps"   
Evernote can store files of any format as note attachments; I store my handwriting notes in Evernote


Same answer as above. :)

 

 

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39 minutes ago, terablade2001 said:

INKredible Pro can export the notes to PDF / PNG and the files to be attached to Evernote. ... PDF / PNG are not editable (as handwritten data) any more.

If I keep the INKredible Pro file format files to Evernote then they are not viewable / editable unless they imported back to the application.

Depending on your needs
- For an editable file, store in the native file format
- For a viewable file, store in pdf/png format

When I have the same requirement - I save in both formats
The screenshot is an email note; I save in both .eml and .pdf format1509311146_ScreenShot2019-11-30at11_54_49AM.png.45b2879a8a878db83646e59775211e0e.png

 

>>I have the impression that the handwrite feature of Evernote, is just a useless “candy“ just to say that Evernote support handwritten notes compared to other apps (like i.e. MS Notes)

Evernote's sketch feature is not a tool I use for handwriting
My preferred tool is the Notability app (Apple iPadOS)

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15 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Depending on your needs
- For an editable file, store in the native file format
- For a viewable file, store in pdf/png format

My needs (and I guess most people needs that use stylus) is for both editable and viewable files, without saving intermediate files.

If Evernote is actually a note app, it should offer indexed note capabilities for actual handwriting, not indexed storage capabilities in combination with other apps.

21 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Evernote's sketch feature is not a tool I use for handwriting
I prefer the Notability app

Even you, you are referring to Evernote handwriting feature are Evernote sketch feature. Actually its Evernote "clumsy sketch" feature.

All I'm saying is that when Evernote tells that its supporting the handwriting feature, it should actually support it, in a rather good quality. Having a "clumsy sketch" (garbage) feature that promotes it as handwriting feature is just a disgrace; for at least such an application.

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@terablade2001, you've said several times that Evernote's Android handwriting feature is "garbage," but I wonder if you could be more specific about how it fails for you. I'm sorry if this should be obvious, but I don't use this feature much, and I'd like to know more about its strengths and weaknesses. It might also be helpful if any Evernote staff check this thread and are looking for specific ideas to improve it.

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20 hours ago, terablade2001 said:

INKredible Pro can export the notes to PDF / PNG and the files to be attached to Evernote ... viewable ... not editable (as handwritten data) any more.

Just wanted to post another purpose for using PDF/PNG files
The content is indexed for Evernote's search feature; even handwriting

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37 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Just wanted to post another purpose for using PDF/PNG files
The content is indexed for Evernote's search feature; even handwriting

Yes. Evernote offers a lot of features. Although I haven't used the specific search feature, it would a good reason to use someone Evernote for handwritten notes. But handwriting feature needs a lot of improvent!

I think that if Evernote takes handwriting feature seriously, it can make a hit on handwriting paid applications due to the integrated indexing engine that its already provides. But has to take it more seriously. I already described above some features, and notice, I didn't say anything about stylus pressure / orientation features (which I can live and without them).

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25 minutes ago, terablade2001 said:

I think that if Evernote takes handwriting feature seriously

In regards to taking a feature seriously, I expect this only applies to Evernote's core feature set
For other features; you're better off using a dedicated app

As to what constitutes Evernote's core, there can be debate
I assure you it's not handwriting.
Even the note editor - I find it limited and often use dedicated editors for serious work

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Thanks, @terablade2001, that's helpful. I've seen the lag time issue mentioned before, and clearly that would have to be addressed for Evernote Android to be useful for handwriting--even sketching, I'd think--on a consistent basis.

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On 01.12.2019 at 19:57, terablade2001 said:

I say that Evernote's (android at least) handwriting feature is garbage because its impossible to keep actual notes there, while i.e. you are watching a seminar. I mostly think this is due to low response time of that feature. This may intepreted as lag between writting and displaying; writting fast and seing the ink displayed with lag is confusing. To understand the difference you have to actually use stylus on Evernote's handwriting feature and on other apps.

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most important is to reduce lag between writting and displaying.

The visual lag of Evernote handwriting is atrocious. Even not comparing it to the responsiveness of Nebo, One Note or Samsung Notes, the "feel" of writing in Evernote with any stylus is an exercise in frustration. It's like the feature hasn't advances at all since its introduction in 2014.

Now that Samsung has severed the 'sync with Evernote' feature in their notes app, and other competitors have very fluid and natural-feeling handwriting features, there's really no excuse to keep it so rudimentary in Evernote.

I can live without OCR "on the fly", no support for dark mode/backgrounds, and a very limited color palette, but please do something with that input lag.

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