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Chantal Leonard

Evernote for Windows 6.8 GA

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[Update 12/13: we've updated the GA build to address an issue with the app icon. We've updated the link in the post below.]

Hi folks - 

We're excited to announce Windows 6.8 GA. You can install it here or by checking for updates. This will be available in the Windows Store after we roll out via the Web.  Fixes for the GA include:

  • A fix for an issue where a new note would sometimes open in a minimized state
  • Two fixes for intermittent crashes in the editor 

Feedback welcome on what you'd like to see improved in 6.9. Be on the lookout for our Beta 1 which is just around the corner! 

Thanks,

Chantal and the rest of the Windows team.

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Release Notes for Windows version 6.8

Note: Version 6.8 is supported in OS versions Windows 7 and up.

Improved

We've made a number of changes to how a note is displayed. Some of the key changes include:

  • Better Print results for notes including highlighting, italics and underline and the ability to print to PDF
  • Updated the inline PDF preview experience with easier access to key commands including print and download
  • If you have a touch monitor, you can now pan notes with the swipe of a finger
  • More quickly start a bulleted list using a hyphen. In addition to using the still supported '*'+space shortcut, you can now also use '-'+space shortcut

Fixed

This release has many bug fixes. Some notable fixes include

  • A fix where tables clipped from Microsoft Word or Outlook did not appear correctly in Evernote
  • A fix where additional lines are pasted when pasting a line of text from Evernote to other applications
  • A fix for no longer dropping the check box and end line on copy/paste of a to-do item
  • A fix where some reminders are not synced after clicking the sync button
  • A fix to ensure the app if downloaded from the Windows Store respects the Options>Start on Windows Logon option
  • A fix so that selecting the 'New Note' button when in the Business tab with no notebook selected, no longer creates a note in Personal
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1 hour ago, EdH said:

It is, IMHO, another example, of Evernote fixing things that aren't broken and no one was asking for instead of fixing things that are broken.

 

Well said. I don't understand the Evernote insistence on doing that when on top of all that they have willing users feedback in forums such as this. All they need to do is give people what they want and the company prospers. Why would they insist on giving users what they never asked for and break what worked while at the same time not fixing what everyone asks for. Makes zero sense.

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How can I drag a PDF out of a note, into another software (eg. Outlook)? This doesn't seem to be possible anymore.

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22 minutes ago, togo said:

How can I drag a PDF out of a note, into another software (eg. Outlook)? This doesn't seem to be possible anymore.

The new PDF viewer does not have the drag icon of the old one.  Method now, until/if EN adds the feature back, is to click the download icon and save to desktop or wherever and then drag from there. 

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The complaint about this was registered in the beta threads preceding this release.  That and the loss of the one click open in your preferred editor.  Both steps backward with the new Google PDF viewer.

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18 hours ago, JohnLongney said:

@Krunoslav

Major improvements were promised or given as excuse for putting up charges to a substantial degree. 

As the honourable @DTLow tells each and everyone what his expectations of the Evernote editor amount to and what another Guru member very recently  had to say re an ongoing issue with italics formatting and its wayward behaviour  "'italics, weird stuff, never used it, cannot think of any application"  I see attitudes I cannot share, nor ever reconcile with.  Evernote will not see another cent from me again yet I will retain my notes, simply run as free account. Practically all my new stuff is done in the other application and as I pay for Office365 anyway I use the full fledged version. 

Just to make it clear how Evernote presents itself on their German site, just read how much emphasis is put on note creation  https://evernote.com/intl/de/  

"Mit Evernote kannst du Notizen jederzeit und überall erstellen, organisieren und teilen. Dank der Synchronisierung hast du deine Ideen so immer in Griffweite"

Evernote's description is quite similar to that by M$ (who opted for more formal wording, still the done way to approach customers). 

   https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/store/p/onenote/9wzdncrfhvjl 

Evernote may make real efforts, but so far it has not paid off. Regardless of what build  released, not a single one was up to scratch.

If enough paying customers terminated their subscription Evernote might finally adopt a more respectful approach towards  their customers. 

Perhaps you should also consider a quiet retreat, because once you export a note in the pdf format MS word  can convert really very well to text and once tidied up transfer to the other note software is easy, reliable, above all free from unpleasant surprises when printed etc, apart from formatting scope unknown in Evernote.

Yes, indeed. There were promises but not much has happened, or what did, it was really badly implemented and full of bugs. Such as changes to the main editor. I am on the lookout for alternatives, but sadly Evernote still offers some of the best web capture tool (webclipper) which is important in the researcher. Other than that, the list of reasons to stay are only linked to the amount of time and efforts I invested in notes.

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2 hours ago, JohnLongney said:

@jefito

I am not going to reply in detail, but 2 points I'll pick up. 

# 1 Subscription rates were raised on the grounds of financing improvements. Now, if you don't consider that 15 - 18 months is time enough for a team of good programmers to redevelop an editor then I do not know what planet you live on. 

As I'm loathe to think that the whole Evernote team is composed of staff barely learned on the job,  nobody with any experience and formal training,   I am left with just one conclusion which is that the whole framework, the code, is simply not suitable for those  improvements that even Evernote thought necessary. 

In this world of displaying and exchanging digital documents, presentations and whatever else,  style and appearance are more important than ever. Time spent on a job, whatever nature, is a premium cost factor. So nobody can afford to fiddle with basic stuff for hours on end. I have a webclip (article) of a page on automatic replies of absence by MS Outlook which I meant to pass on to a friend of mine, augmented with a few annotations. Suffice to say that the Evernote clip showed the headline in font wf_segoe-ui_light,  size 158.  Clipped through Chrome, latest build. I can assure you that display of webpage on monitor and clipped note in EN did not relate at all. I copied the heading from the webpage and pasted into Word, and got same font,  size 55. So much for staying within Evernote.

# 2 Service, as part of the charge.  OK, but what kind of service?  No message of upcoming subscription renewal, no helpfiles to download,  support chat hours geared to US time, notebook numbers limited, each note limited to 200 MB, search cumbersome with varying results. Basically, so it seems to me, I pay for the use of basic software, use of webspace with some version control, but other than that?  Windows browser web service is dreadful, Android version, forget it. Pen support, non-existent. 

Best Wishes to All Elephant Lovers for 2018

Couldn't agree more. I have been pointing this out for a while, no reply off course from the actual team or people responsible. Its like howling to the moon. Frustrating.

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Wow! This has been the worst update I've ever done! Editor is horrible and it keeps deleting stuff. I just lost 5 or so PNGs within a note when I inserted a Google Drive link.

This is really disappointing as I use Evernote daily all day long and I have a really good system of how I keep track of certain items which includes pasted screenshots. But I keep losing stuff within the note.

How can I go back a version? Please help.

 

The new PDF viewer did not bring any value to me at all. I did not print anything from Evernote anyway, if I need to, I opened the PDF in a PDF software anyway. 

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On 12/25/2017 at 2:28 AM, Krunoslav said:

I hate to be cynical here, but it seems that if you read these forums or try the so called GA releases, they are just betas released to general public. The bugs are either still there, or new ones are introduced that break things that used to work etc. I don't find that funny. I'm still using old version of Evernote 6.5.4. and carefully reading forums here, but it does not seems I am safe to upgrade anytime soon.... its really bad. GA might mean General Availability, but it does not mean safe for work. At least when it comes to Evernote team.

Same here, ever since paste as text was broken, I've had to roll back to version 6.4.2.3788 Public, in my experience this was the latest most stable version for me - I absolutely refuse to upgrade until I see a post about a release where all the forum replies aren't about bugs. I'm terrified of losing data or having it corrupted. With as many notes as I have (3k worth), I might not even notice it until it was too late. As it is, I write down the number of notes total and periodically make sure it hasn't gone down. Though if the data inside of a note gets corrupted, I'm SOL. Wish we had a way to also see the total "character count" of all notes as well.

For everyone who has been with Evernote for years: PLEASE NO NEW FEATURES, JUST FIX THE BUGS.

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My disappointment with the update continues. It is getting worse daily! Now, in my previously existing tables, I hit tab in the last cell or hit the PLUS to add a row, the new rows appear couple rows up in the middle of the table!!!!

Added photos to a note continues to disappear and do not get me started on the sluggishness and the "Not responding" messages I get on a daily basis. 

I am hoping the next update fixes all this otherwise this has become a huge hindrance in my daily work!

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  • Almost all inserted pictures disappear randomly from my notes.
  • Page lines ('rules') randomly decide to not show up sometimes, or only if I insert 2 lines before them.
  • Font sizes throughout the whole note randomly undo to default after hours of work.
  • Countless bugs related to bullet lists
  • Images randomly decide to not want to annotate. I press the annotate icon and nothing happens.
  • Images also reset to their original size after I do annotate them, or do anything to them really.
  • Let me repeat the first one because I've lost hours of work due to this: almost all inserted pictures are disappearing randomly from my notes.

Some of these have been present for a long while, but the most damaging appeared only since the latest update (namely 1, 2 and 5).

Nothing much to say but this is unacceptable.

(On another note, if anyone knows how to downgrade to the previous version that would be great.)

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5 hours ago, DTLow said:

The software is released for   General Availability; the testing cycle stages have been completed  

This compares to software releases that are at the Alpha or Beta stages in the testing cycle

There is documentation at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

I hate to be cynical here, but it seems that if you read these forums or try the so called GA releases, they are just betas released to general public. The bugs are either still there, or new ones are introduced that break things that used to work etc. I don't find that funny. I'm still using old version of Evernote 6.5.4. and carefully reading forums here, but it does not seems I am safe to upgrade anytime soon.... its really bad. GA might mean General Availability, but it does not mean safe for work. At least when it comes to Evernote team.

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5 hours ago, DTLow said:

Confirmed; Evernote's GA release does not mean all bugs are fixed

The testing stages identify the bugs and the development work is prioritized.

Ideally we know what to expect when the GA version is released, and can decide to upgrade or not.

Yes. However when you put some of the numbers in context its really disgraceful.... you have to admit.

The Evernote web service launched into open beta on June 24, 2008, 200 million users worldwide. That is over a decade later, decade later.... and we still can't get a working word editor in a note taking application. Application that works with words. That is its core functionality. That's crazy. 

Its riddled with bugs, even things that used to work, stop working or have weird bugs. Reported bugs are not all fixed and we are greeted with new features that either broke what used to work or are things no one asked for, like that weird new note button placement. As evident by reading the forums or testing yourself. We are still missing word editor features that virtually every other word application in existence had for probably as long as Evernote has been around. And that is just a tip of the iceberg. You have been around long enough in these forums to remember all the leadership bizarre decision, tight lip development team and security concerns.

If I didn't naively invested 17, 000 plus notes into this app, I would be crazy to stay. Things are not getting any better. Its been probably six months now since v6.5.4 and I still don't dare to upgrade. I mean who is crazy here!?

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5 minutes ago, DTLow said:

My response was to the question asking the meaning of "GA"

I use Evernote as my digital filing cabinet

I don't consider the Evernote editor a replacement for a word processing app.  It's fine for basic notes; I use dedicated apps when I need extended features.  Word/Pages for word processing, Excel/Numbers for spreadsheets, ...

>>If I didn't naively invested 17, 000 plus notes into this app, I would be crazy to stay.

It's very easy to export your data from Evernote.  That's one of the top reasons I use this service;  I don't feel I'm locked in.

 

Yes, I agree, its not a replacement for word processing on a large scale, but things like highlighting and formatting tools, H1, H2, styles, etc. Basic stuff that it should have. On top of that, as you can see in these forums people have weird issues with font size not matching when using bullet points, as well as copy paste issues. These are basics. There should be no excuses for that. Basic table editing as well, which they try to add with new releases, but its still buggy as hell.

You said "It's very easy to export your data from Evernote." I don't see how that is possible and still maintain the structure, with images and text intact. Unless you know something I don't. If so do tell, because I have not found anything I can use yet. Mind you, I'm not using only text. Its a combination of text, images, fonts, highlighted elements etc.  
 

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2 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I use the export to html feature on my Mac
The note content is exported as an html file.
Attachments are exported unchanged in the stored format.  If I stored an image in jpg format, I get a jpg file

Yes, but that is not a replacement for the edit ability of note taking app such as Evernote. Its a backup feature at best. I am aware of that, but I need to continue to work on the files/notes, which means that it has to be hosted in a note taking app such as Evernote, not as static HTML file. Its a good way to backup notes maybe, but its not a way to replace functionality of Evernote with something better. OneNote would be a possibility and I'm using that as well, but their Evernote2OneNote feature is not that good, need lot of polish. Anything more complex does not translate well.

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1 minute ago, ruudhein said:

@Krunoslav was reading back a bit through this thread. You may want to experiment with Nimbus Note; it can import the ENEX export files from Evernote. Editor has a bit more functionality than Evernote. Windows version feels a bit old and doesn't have search feature parity with their web search but it works pretty well. 

Like you I also remain in Evernote because I already have so many notes here; knowing I can export to a tool like it is a comforting thought. But I also keep on using Evernote because it 1) has proven to be a long-term worth company that will likely be around for another long time, 2) depending on what/how you use it is very good at what it does. In my case Evernote contains "my life" with thousands of entries of people I met, things I did, etc. I rarely have a problem finding something back and over the years it has proven to be so useful that often family members will ask me to look up something, knowing I most likely have it in my database :)

The weirdness of the current editor is a bit annoying. Less annoying than the long type ahead search problems we had a couple of years ago but still annoying. Then again, you've probably noticed in your software travels that there's always something annoying or missing. 

I have heard about Nimbus Screenshot Shot tool and used it in web browser in the past, but I was not really aware of the Nimbus Note. Sounds interesting, promising even. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I appreciate it. :)

I agree with what you said but I have my doubts about of Evernote being around for a long time. They certainly don't seem to be acting like it. And far mightier and better managed companies have failed than Evernote. So far they seem to be getting by on old fame and lack of strong competition, but I don't see any innovation, or even maintenance, I see raise in price for no return on value for the users, I see restrictions that are there because of old foundation on software that is no longer adequate solution for both users and competitive company. I have serious doubts if Evernote services next few years. If something like Nimbus note or some other software decided to up their game, and offer good migration options of notes from Evernote, I don't see how Evernote can survive for long with their atrocious development team and lack of compelling innovation. There is also a really bad sign when evenote marketing team sends me emails and tells fairy tales of productivity and evernote development team can't make a an update without breaking half the program. I don't know who is in charge of the teams but that is really confusing and conflicting message they are sending to their user base.

Anyway, thank you for the Nimbus Note heads up. I will be sure to check it out in the near future and see if its a viable alternative. I truly hope it is.

Happy New Year. :)

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I went back to the previous version. I hope they will give us an option as to how we want to see our PDFs within the notes. I like the old style better for sure, it is more natural within the note. The new PDF look felt like it was not part of the note, it was not fluid for me.

PS! Interesting discussion about Nimbus Note. I had not heard about it before, looking at their website, it does look like a nice option. Evernote has all my digital life in it at this time so a change is obviously nothing I am considering now. But it seems like everybody seems to want better features and updates from the team. I would agree with that.

 

 

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17 hours ago, DTLow said:

 

 

 

The topic of this discussion is   Evernote for Windows 6.8 GA

You should be opening a new discussion, and posting in the third-party or off-topic forums

I'd like to join the discussion, but not here

Normally I would agree with you. I mean as a general principle, sticking to the topic. However , many of these new topics go unresponded, Certainly not from Evernote even when people are posting in them. Pretty soon the forums is filling up with this dead ends. I wish it was not so. Since there is no response from the Evernote team or anyone in charge of disastrous updates we are getting from Evernote lately, and not all are betas, at least not officially... maybe they can read between the lines. The reason this Nimbus business came up, is because people want more than anything for Evernote to work, at least as it used to if not better, and are looking for alternatives. People are not satisfied and there needs to be some valid and meaningful response from Evernote. If they care at all. I mean there should be a legitimate Evernote representative with authority apologizing and compensating with some useful information for the bugs they introduced. All I hear instead is crickets and resident Evernote apologists. I said my piece. I won't engage in anymore Nimbus topics on this threat. If new one is opened, we can continue there. I agree.

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52 minutes ago, randial said:

TK- How did you go back to another version?  Do they have a download for it?

Yes, filehippo.com 

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This update has the most bugs of any I have used in the last 9 years. I've always found ways to work around the bugs before, but this has me beaten. The pdf viewer looks nice, but has brought so many problems. Attachments disappear, copy and paste does not always work, notes get corrupted. There may be a security issue because the pdf viewer will run any javascript  embedded in the pdf. The windows app was always buggy, but there seems to have been a rapid growth in bugs over the last few releases. Evernote has now become an anti-productivity tool for me. It is the most expensive software I use and the least reliable...

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Upgraded from 5.X (?) to this version some day ago.

I have the same issue with the line breaks.

Even more annoying: some notes are randomly replaced with the contents of other notes... At first I thought I had accidentally done something wrong (like copy-pasting the content or something), but I have already seen three different notes for which it has happened now. I had to upgrade Evernote premium in order to restore these notes, the other plans doesn't allow you to see the note history... I'll probably be stuck on this plan for a long time as I have no idea how many of my notes were corrupted... So not only is this a annoying bug, it's also costing me money :wacko:. Extremely disappointed.

I've stopped using the current version now, losing data is simply not acceptable. I'll switch to an older version for a while, while I think about what to do going forward...

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12 hours ago, Jay_G said:

Upgraded from 5.X (?) to this version some day ago.

I have the same issue with the line breaks.

Even more annoying: some notes are randomly replaced with the contents of other notes... At first I thought I had accidentally done something wrong (like copy-pasting the content or something), but I have already seen three different notes for which it has happened now. I had to upgrade Evernote premium in order to restore these notes, the other plans doesn't allow you to see the note history... I'll probably be stuck on this plan for a long time as I have no idea how many of my notes were corrupted... So not only is this a annoying bug, it's also costing me money :wacko:. Extremely disappointed.

I've stopped using the current version now, losing data is simply not acceptable. I'll switch to an older version for a while, while I think about what to do going forward...

This is the first time I regretted an upgrade and had to go back a version in one of my computers. I just used the new version on this computer and it is horrible. Super slow, it took 5 minutes to unfreeze at one point. I was getting the windows blue circle and it was non-responsive. I will have to downgrade this computer as well. 

I also had problems with PDFs and images disappearing from the notes which is very scary, annoying and disappointing. 
 

We need a fix right away.

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On 12/12/2017 at 3:52 PM, Austin G said:

Hi. Thanks for the additional info. This issue appears to be isolated to PDFs that contain a period (.) in the title. This is scheduled to be fixed in an upcoming release. Thanks again for the report. 

The GA is out on 24-Jan-2018 A.D.  and the bug is still there.. 

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On 1/4/2018 at 12:11 PM, Jason Miller said:

We have had some fixes with  cursor position in 6.9 beta 1+ not sure on the time frame for the GA of 6.9 

I am very disappointed that the next GA is not happening sooner.  I have noticed more bugs in the release with no date or expectation that the "not responding" or whatever is brought up in these forums are not being addressed.  I would like to have more features, however, I would prefer the features that is now offered to be working properly before creating new ones.

I would appreciate if there would be more stability of the product which I love and has used for coming up for over seven years!  I would appreciate your prompt response.

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On 12/18/2017 at 5:18 PM, louay.md said:
  • Almost all inserted pictures disappear randomly from my notes.
  • Page lines ('rules') randomly decide to not show up sometimes, or only if I insert 2 lines before them.
  • Font sizes throughout the whole note randomly undo to default after hours of work.
  • Countless bugs related to bullet lists
  • Images randomly decide to not want to annotate. I press the annotate icon and nothing happens.
  • Images also reset to their original size after I do annotate them, or do anything to them really.
  • Let me repeat the first one because I've lost hours of work due to this: almost all inserted pictures are disappearing randomly from my notes.

All of these issues happen to me too! 

Especially the disappearing pictures is really annoying.

The app is rather useless with these essential bugs! I only installed evernote a couple of weeks ago, but I had expected more from a 500+ employee company... I hope you can fix these issues soon

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Unfortunately, I am going to keep on posting about issues I encounter daily and the frustration I am feeling because it is really impacting my work. More importantly, I don't have the confidence or the peace of mind that my notes are there when I need them the way I created them.

I created a note with information on it and added another note link to it. As I normally do, I put an Evernote logo before the link, this helps differentiating different parts of the note and looks nicer to the eye. Did the ALT F F and selected the PNG  file...it took 2 minutes to put the logo...in a wrong location but it was there.

I accessed the note later and the logo was gone. Then I added another link to another note under the previous link.

I worked on other things, came back to this note and now the note with information and links is a new note that I just created that had a photo in it created with Scannable app. But it did not have photo. I knew it was that note because I had written down couple things about the document I scanned. But it was keeping the tags from the original note! My scannable note was still there. So I had to go to the history of the note I lost and recover it. If this was not happening to me, as I was working on these notes, I could have looked for this note with some search terms and wouldn't find it easily (my tags would allow me to find it though)

So after this recovery, I went to other things and came back to the note to find out that the second link I had inserted is no longer there!

For someone using Evernote all day long and for work purposes, this is beyond frustration at this time!! PLEASE release the update and get rid of these bugs! This has become a daily occurrence and I am really getting annoyed by it.

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Hi!

I immediately noticed the icon appears to have a "sash" or ribbon across the upper left corner. I can't seem to make out what it is. Does anyone mind sharing if they do know?

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52 minutes ago, fierylevi said:

I immediately noticed the icon appears to have a "sash" or ribbon across the upper left corner. I can't seem to make out what it is. Does anyone mind sharing if they do know?

I believe that it says "BETA".

Not sure that that a GA release should be waving the BETA flag, though.

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30 minutes ago, jefito said:

I believe that it says "BETA".

Not sure that that a GA release should be waving the BETA flag, though.

And just to be clear, I do have the public release:

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Yes, the GA has the beta sash on it. Maybe they can fix that before too many people download.

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Updated to 6.8. Beta sash too, bust most problematic:

  • Once again, the upgrade ad icon reappeared in the tool bar, no way to make it disappeared (this on all my devices). I have also the Context feature at the bottom of my notes...
  • It seems that randomly, if I select a underlined word inside a table, ctrl+U or clicking on the Underline icon don't remove the underlining
  • On one of my note, If I select the black coloured background table and reverse it to white, the words inside it remain highlighted in black.

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29 minutes ago, BasieBand said:

I have several notes that contain pdf files where the ability to annotate or display as an attachment has been lost with the upgrade to 6.8.  An example is attached. http://www.evernote.com/l/AAyY2usTAoFB3p4Oj88IaI39-ZaRdpN7TnA/

Do you see the options if you right-click within the body of the PDF? With the new PDF viewer, right-clicking the banner at the top of the PDF that displays the PDF filename and page will not give you the PDF options. 

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3 hours ago, fierylevi said:

Hi!

I immediately noticed the icon appears to have a "sash" or ribbon across the upper left corner. I can't seem to make out what it is. Does anyone mind sharing if they do know?

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Thanks for the report. We're working on it. 

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43 minutes ago, Némo Nobody said:

Once again, the upgrade ad icon reappeared in the tool bar, no way to make it disappeared (this on all my devices). I have also the Context feature at the bottom of my notes...

Thanks for the report. Please try these steps as a workaround:

 

We're looking into your other reports and will reach out if we're unable to reproduce. Thanks. 

 

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If you rename a PDF in EN using the context menu (right click in the PDF) the context menu is wrong and unusable from then on.  I reported this in the 6.8.5 beta.  Still exists in this GA.

 

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57 minutes ago, Némo Nobody said:

Updated to 6.8. Beta sash too, bust most problematic:

  • Once again, the upgrade ad icon reappeared in the tool bar, no way to make it disappeared (this on all my devices). I have also the Context feature at the bottom of my notes...
  • It seems that randomly, if I select a underlined word inside a table, ctrl+U or clicking on the Underline icon don't remove the underlining
  • On one of my note, If I select the black coloured background table and reverse it to white, the words inside it remain highlighted in black.

For items 2 & 3

I haven't run into item #2 with underline and tables, do you happen to have a problem table there this happens more often and/or a video showing it (I can recommend a light weight recording cool for recording screen issues if needed) - or just steps to reproduce

For #3 - sounds like a problem table (is it the same table with the underline issue) if possible could you share the note that is table is in? 

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That being said, random cursor leaps are rarer, and I think printing seems greatly improved.  ?

And sorry for the typo in the note title...  No need to worry about "itaclis".

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1 hour ago, Austin G said:

Do you see the options if you right-click within the body of the PDF? With the new PDF viewer, right-clicking the banner at the top of the PDF that displays the PDF filename and page will not give you the PDF options. 

Right-clicking in the body of the PDF works in the vast majority of my notes.  For a small fraction, however,  I only get the options as shown.  http://www.evernote.com/l/AAyY2usTAoFB3p4Oj88IaI39-ZaRdpN7TnA/

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1 hour ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

That being said, random cursor leaps are rarer, and I think printing seems greatly improved.  ?

And sorry for the typo in the note title...  No need to worry about "itaclis".

Word doesn't fare much better.  Probably got to do with mixing italics within a word.

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1 hour ago, CalS said:

Word doesn't fare much better.  Probably got to do with mixing italics within a word.

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This also happens with entirely italic words.

 

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Also, do letters in MS Word also flash with the cursor?

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2 hours ago, BasieBand said:

Right-clicking in the body of the PDF works in the vast majority of my notes.  For a small fraction, however,  I only get the options as shown.  http://www.evernote.com/l/AAyY2usTAoFB3p4Oj88IaI39-ZaRdpN7TnA/

Hi. Thanks for the additional info. This issue appears to be isolated to PDFs that contain a period (.) in the title. This is scheduled to be fixed in an upcoming release. Thanks again for the report. 

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1 hour ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

This also happens with entirely italic words.

What do you see when you make the attached period italics?

1 hour ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

Also, do letters in MS Word also flash with the cursor?

Nope.  EN seems to be telling us that there is an overlap in the characters.

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51 minutes ago, Austin G said:

Hi. Thanks for the additional info. This issue appears to be isolated to PDFs that contain a period (.) in the title. This is scheduled to be fixed in an upcoming release. Thanks again for the report. 

That helps thanks.  Safe to assume this fix will address existing notes with "." in the title?  Have a bunch of old notes with PDFs named Account - yyyy.mm.

Also, if you rename a PDF using the context menu the name in the banner does not change in all instances.

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1 hour ago, Austin G said:

Hi. Thanks for the additional info. This issue appears to be isolated to PDFs that contain a period (.) in the title. This is scheduled to be fixed in an upcoming release. Thanks again for the report. 

Thank you.

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19 hours ago, Chantal Leonard said:

Feedback welcome on what you'd like to see improved in 6.9. Be on the lookout for our Beta 1 which is just around the corner! 

Awesome, Thanks Team!  Can't wait to try it out

[For  6.9?  Custom styles and coloured highlights? Low impact high value UI tweaks, Ha ha.]

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Just an FYI.  It was taking over 5 seconds for the PDF to display after selecting a note (I timed 4 different notes).  I did a File - Exit and when I reopened EN all was normal.  Clueless as to what I might have done to create the issue.  Again, just an FYI.

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5 hours ago, CalS said:

That helps thanks.  Safe to assume this fix will address existing notes with "." in the title?  Have a bunch of old notes with PDFs named Account - yyyy.mm.

Also, if you rename a PDF using the context menu the name in the banner does not change in all instances.

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In this case, moving to a different note, and back to the original should force the banner to update. I've submitted this as well. Thanks for the report.

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1 hour ago, togo said:

How can I drag a PDF out of a note, into another software (eg. Outlook)? This doesn't seem to be possible anymore.

I can usually drag pdfs/images to the desktop, then drag from there

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@DTLow Yes - but how can I drag the PDF as of version 6.8.6.6350? It doesn't seem to work anymore when I drag-click in the PDF header bar.

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23 hours ago, WeCanLearnAnything said:

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That being said, random cursor leaps are rarer, and I think printing seems greatly improved.  ?

And sorry for the typo in the note title...  No need to worry about "itaclis".

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Filed a bug for the italics 

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  • I can't drag images from the desktop into a table cell, instead it's always positioned below the table. From there I can drag the image into the table.
  • printing of tables containing images gets distorted

 

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3 minutes ago, eric99 said:
  • I can't drag images from the desktop into a table cell, instead it's always positioned below the table. From there I can drag the image into the table.
  • printing of tables containing images gets distorted

 

Sorry about that, we have several fixes for drag and drop and also printing with tables is better with 6.9 release currently in development 

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3 minutes ago, Jason Miller said:

Sorry about that, we have several fixes for drag and drop and also printing with tables is better with 6.9 release currently in development 

I certainly hope this gets fixed quickly. I've become dependant on drag & drop. Not having this feature will most definitely start me looking for an alternative to Evernote.

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On 12/12/2017 at 6:31 PM, Jason Miller said:

For items 2 & 3

I haven't run into item #2 with underline and tables, do you happen to have a problem table there this happens more often and/or a video showing it (I can recommend a light weight recording cool for recording screen issues if needed) - or just steps to reproduce

For #3 - sounds like a problem table (is it the same table with the underline issue) if possible could you share the note that is table is in? 

Item #2 happened on one note but after closing it and reopening it the problem was gone (I was also unable to insert a horizontal line with "---" before closing it like if Evernote wasn't refreshing).

Item #3: sorry not enough systematic I have already deleted the reluctant table.

Both items happened with old tables converted in 6.7. Wasn't able to reproduce them. Next time I will directly produce a video.

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On 12/12/2017 at 9:31 AM, Némo Nobody said:

I have also the Context feature at the bottom of my notes...

You can turn context off by going to Tools - Options - Note and uncheck the Show context box.  Make sure Show advance options is checked.

 

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Having problems reproducing this, but working with a note with an 8x12 table, getting various table glitches.  First it was copying a couple of lines of text would paste over a couple of cells, after a few attempts evernote crashed, and seems to be working fine now after killing any evernote processes and opening it again.  Now it was after deleting a couple of columns that were added from the above failure, I couldn't resize columns.  Closed and re-opened the note, and all the column widths reset to the same width.  I'll update and/or create a separate thread if I can get this to be reproducible.

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Horizontal rule problem - is this a 6.8 bug?  Separate post due to multiple screen shots.  But maybe a video would be better, lol.

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On ‎13‎-‎12‎-‎2017 at 5:09 PM, CalS said:

The new PDF viewer does not have the drag icon of the old one.  Method now, until/if EN adds the feature back, is to click the download icon and save to desktop or wherever and then drag from there. 

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The complaint about this was registered in the beta threads preceding this release.  That and the loss of the one click open in your preferred editor.  Both steps backward with the new Google PDF viewer.

The one click open feature gone is a biggy for me. Any news when that will be added?

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6 hours ago, CraigZ said:

Having problems reproducing this, but working with a note with an 8x12 table, getting various table glitches.  First it was copying a couple of lines of text would paste over a couple of cells, after a few attempts evernote crashed, and seems to be working fine now after killing any evernote processes and opening it again.  Now it was after deleting a couple of columns that were added from the above failure, I couldn't resize columns.  Closed and re-opened the note, and all the column widths reset to the same width.  I'll update and/or create a separate thread if I can get this to be reproducible.

Same experience, very unstable release, previous one was much better, wondering why this one was released so early with all these known bugs...

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2 hours ago, Kiddokay said:

The one click open feature gone is a biggy for me. Any news when that will be added?

Nope.  Maybe EN will comment as to whether this is a fix in the works or not.

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11 minutes ago, Némo Nobody said:

Another bug, and a very crippling one: I can't anymore open encrypted text.

That's a disaster.  As fallback, can you decrypt on the web platform (www.evernote.com)

In case this is isolated to your device,  you could try rebooting, reinstalling

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6 minutes ago, DTLow said:

That's a disaster.  As fallback, can you decrypt on the web platform (www.evernote.com)

Wow, I have just tried to decrypt a text in one of my note in the web platform and it result in a rectangular blank space with the words "Encrypted text" above.

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13 minutes ago, Némo Nobody said:

Another bug, and a very crippling one: I can't anymore open encrypted text.

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Have you tried right-clicking on the encrypted text block and choosing  "Show Encrypted Text..." from the resulting menu? This what  worked for me. Simply clicking on the encrypted text block or using Ctrl+Enter shortcut key does not work.

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2 minutes ago, keisoko said:

Have you tried right-clicking on the encrypted text block and choosing  "Show Encrypted Text..." from the resulting menu? This what  worked for me. Simply clicking on the encrypted text block or using Ctrl+Enter shortcut key does not work.

Right-clicking and choosing "Show encrypted text" result in another frame around the lock block, like in the gif.

Also tried right-clicking and choosing "Show encrypted text" but with "Remember password until I quit Evernote" checked with same result + unable to open the password window since the text is supposed to be already decrypted.

Also tried to remove or simplify formatting without success.

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I have just tried to decrypt text on the Android version: blank space. So it seems that the texts I have newly encrypted or the previously encrypted texts that I have modified on 6.8 are gone.

What a mess.

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15 hours ago, Némo Nobody said:

Another bug, and a very crippling one: I can't anymore open encrypted text.

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Nasty - do you happen to have such a note you can share for us to test with - I can decrypt fine, but that is a bit unfair, I am running newest Dev code that will be in 6.9 

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If I opt for displaying thumbnail view in the notes list all the thumbnails are just black square boxes Snippet view and card view are fine.

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On 12/13/2017 at 10:25 PM, SteveJW1973 said:

I certainly hope this gets fixed quickly. I've become dependant on drag & drop. Not having this feature will most definitely start me looking for an alternative to Evernote.

The same for me, I hope you may soon fix this in an intermediate release ; this regression completely breaks my workflow...

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step 1: enter a search string in the search bar --> as expected, the corresponding note appears in the note editor pane below ( OK)

step 2: click somewhere in the note editor pane to position the cursor for editing (OK as well)

step 3: type a character at that position

Expected result:  the character appears in the text at the cursor position

Actual result: the cursor disappears and no character is added. The editor pane lost focus

Work around: click again in the editor pane, from then on you can enter text

 

Important: this only occurs if you specify a search string, otherwise the note editor works properly

 

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Sometimes when I drag a pdf into a note, it appears in the context field  (pdf in thumbnail mode).

Deleting the note doesn't remove the pdf from the context field. It stays there for all notes until you restart evernote.

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On 15/12/2017 at 6:00 PM, Jason Miller said:

Nasty - do you happen to have such a note you can share for us to test with - I can decrypt fine, but that is a bit unfair, I am running newest Dev code that will be in 6.9 

I've tried to send the note by opening a ticket but the format isn't supported. How can I share a note with the support?

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1 hour ago, Némo Nobody said:

I've tried to send the note by opening a ticket but the format isn't supported. How can I share a note with the support?

You would export your ticket in .enex format

When opening a support ticket, you receive an email.  You can reply to the email, attaching the .enex file
You can also send a private message to @Jason Miller.  Just hover your mouse pointer over his picture and you'll see a mail icon

 

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On ‎12‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 6:57 PM, Chantal Leonard said:

Feedback welcome on what you'd like to see improved in 6.9. Be on the lookout for our Beta 1 which is just around the corner! 

Two issues for users with "Sync on Demand" needs to be addressed:

  1. Searching. When searching, it searches in two stages:
    1. Local content - virtually instantly
    2. unsync'ed content - 5-15 seconds at least to return results
      1. There is NO UI warning on what is going on. Even using Sync On Demand for over a year, I forget to wait and after the initial return of results that doesn't return what I want, I start changing search terms until I remember to wait. There needs to be two UI modifications.
        1. "Searching online content, please wait" or something to at effect, with a spinning circle, progressive dots, or the Millenium Falcon
        2. A warning if you are offline (airplane) that online content wasn't returned.
  2. When merging notes, it must either:
    1. download all notes in the merge operation first or
    2. warn you that all notes aren't downloaded
      1. the current merge operation will only merge headers of non-sync'd notes and delete the note body. If you catch it immediately, you can delete the merged note and restore the old notes from the trash. If you do not catch it you will permanently lose data!

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2 hours ago, EdH said:

the current merge operation will only merge headers of non-sync'd notes and delete the note body. If you catch it immediately, you can delete the merged note and restore the old notes from the trash. If you do not catch it you will permanently lose data!

OUCH!

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20 minutes ago, louay.md said:
  • Almost all inserted pictures disappear randomly from my notes.
  • Page lines ('rules') randomly decide to not show up sometimes, or only if I insert 2 lines before them.
  • Font sizes throughout the whole note randomly undo to default after hours of work.
  • Countless bugs related to bullet lists
  • Images randomly decide to not want to annotate. I press the annotate icon and nothing happens.
  • Images also reset to their original size after I do annotate them, or do anything to them really.
  • Let me repeat the first one because I've lost hours of work due to this: almost all inserted pictures are disappearing randomly from my notes.

Some of these have been present for a long while, but the most damaging appeared only since the latest update (namely 1, 2 and 5).

Nothing much to say but this is unacceptable.

(On another note, if anyone knows how to downgrade to the previous version that would be great.)

Items #2 and #5 for me too. I hope to not encounter the random disappearing of pictures.

From now on even for GA releases I will wait for user feedbacks before updating

 

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57 minutes ago, Némo Nobody said:

Items #2 and #5 for me too. I hope to not encounter the random disappearing of pictures.

From now on even for GA releases I will wait for user feedbacks before updating

 

The randomly disappearing pictures occurs for me if I rotate one. I reported this in the beta release but not fixed in this GA release.

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8 minutes ago, ian_marson said:

The randomly disappearing pictures occurs for me if I rotate one. I reported this in the beta release but not fixed in this GA release.

Do you have particular note this is happening on?  (where you able to recover the image using history?)

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1 hour ago, louay.md said:

(On another note, if anyone knows how to downgrade to the previous version that would be great.)

Go to filehippo.com and select the version of your choice.

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On 12/17/2017 at 10:35 AM, DTLow said:

You would export your ticket in .enex format

When opening a support ticket, you receive an email.  You can reply to the email, attaching the .enex file
You can also send a private message to @Jason Miller.  Just hover your mouse pointer over his picture and you'll see a mail icon

 

You can export the note and then share via direct message

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3 hours ago, louay.md said:

On another note, if anyone knows how to downgrade to the previous version that would be great.)

Completely remove Evernote from your device; app, data, ...

Install the app, login and the database will be rebuilt from the servers.  Warning; the rebuild doesn't include Local Notebooks or unsync'd notes

  • To obtain a specific version, check the release posts.  As per the first post in this discussion, a link is included to download the app
  • You can sometimes get away without reinstalling the database.
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2 hours ago, Jason Miller said:

Do you have particular note this is happening on?  (where you able to recover the image using history?)

Been trying to reproduce this, it happens to any note when I drop and drag an image into it, I then rotate the image and it disappears. If I add the image using the "add attachment" option then it doesn't disappear. I can retrieve a lost image from note history.

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Two issues/bugs.

  1. Sync works normally (manual mode) but when triggered by copying the internal link of a note or by creating a table of content, the sync bar window appears and progression is terribly slow. Have to cancel, wait about ten seconds for Evernote to responds after the closing of the sync bar window, then the sync symbol rotate and syncing performs normally.
  2. Various annoying behaviors with boxes, e.g.: no tabulation, no selection... Maybe similar to the "countless bugs related to bullet lists"  mentionned by @louay.md

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9 hours ago, louay.md said:
  • Almost all inserted pictures disappear randomly from my notes.
  • Page lines ('rules') randomly decide to not show up sometimes, or only if I insert 2 lines before them.
  • Font sizes throughout the whole note randomly undo to default after hours of work.
  • Countless bugs related to bullet lists
  • Images randomly decide to not want to annotate. I press the annotate icon and nothing happens.
  • Images also reset to their original size after I do annotate them, or do anything to them really.
  • Let me repeat the first one because I've lost hours of work due to this: almost all inserted pictures are disappearing randomly from my notes.

Some of these have been present for a long while, but the most damaging appeared only since the latest update (namely 1, 2 and 5).

Nothing much to say but this is unacceptable.

(On another note, if anyone knows how to downgrade to the previous version that would be great.)

UPDATE:

  1. Found another bug: attachments are blurry.

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  1. Also, some more info on the disappearing rules bug:
  • When copying the note from Evernote to something else (e.g. Microsoft Word), all the rules appear normally...while in Evernote it either skips every other rule or just makes them disappear in some other wacky way. Here's an example of an Evernote note with multiple rules in succession in Evernote vs. in Word:

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                                  As you can see, there are half as many rules showing in Evernote as there actually should be.

  • Zooming in & out (Ctrl +/-) randomly makes some rules appear and some disappear (no zoom vs. zoom in vs. zoom out):

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  • Another example of something completely random breaking rules - removing a picture can cause all the rules below it to disappear (tried it with the example note above but I've reached the photo upload limit).

I do hope I'm at the right place to report all this instead of wasting more of my time and I truly hope it helps the Evernote team to pinpoint the problem.

UPDATE #2:

I downgraded to 6.7.5 and all page lines magically reappeared, attachments look fine again, annotation works again, and one other bug in the latest version I forgot to add: manual Spell Check (F7) is available again after disappearing for no reason in 6.8.7.

 

 

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Unless I'm missing something big, it's unclear to me what is better about the new PDF viewer. It seems to be inferior to the previous viewer and is very odd having a browser-style PDF viewer embedded in the note view. How would we go about requesting a change back to the previous viewer?

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10 hours ago, cisco10 said:

Unless I'm missing something big, it's unclear to me what is better about the new PDF viewer. It seems to be inferior to the previous viewer and is very odd having a browser-style PDF viewer embedded in the note view. How would we go about requesting a change back to the previous viewer?

I second that, it seems out of place. You can downgrade like I did until it gets changed.

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On 12/18/2017 at 2:07 PM, ian_marson said:

Been trying to reproduce this, it happens to any note when I drop and drag an image into it, I then rotate the image and it disappears. If I add the image using the "add attachment" option then it doesn't disappear. I can retrieve a lost image from note history.

I am glad you can at least recover the image.  I haven't encountered hits the new builds I am testing, so at least it doesn't look like a problem in 6.9 (and what should be beta 2 code) - though that doesn't help in the short term. 

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On 20/12/2017 at 8:53 PM, Jason Miller said:

I am glad you can at least recover the image.  I haven't encountered hits the new builds I am testing, so at least it doesn't look like a problem in 6.9 (and what should be beta 2 code) - though that doesn't help in the short term. 

Tried some other options. If I lose an image then go to the web client the image is still intact in the note which means the image is presumably there but not visible in the note on the windows client. So I tried completely exiting Evernote windows then opened it again and the image reappeared in the note.

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3 hours ago, mavt88 said:

Please, whats is "GA"?

The software is released for   General Availability; the testing cycle stages have been completed  

This compares to software releases that are at the Alpha or Beta stages in the testing cycle

There is documentation at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

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19 hours ago, Krunoslav said:

The bugs are either still there

Confirmed; Evernote's GA release does not mean all bugs are fixed

The testing stages identify the bugs and the development work is prioritized.

Ideally we know what to expect when the GA version is released, and can decide to upgrade or not.

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4 hours ago, Krunoslav said:

However when you put some of the numbers in context its really disgraceful.... you have to admit.

My response was to the question asking the meaning of "GA"

I use Evernote as my digital filing cabinet
I don't consider the Evernote editor a replacement for a word processing app.  
It's fine for basic notes; I use dedicated apps when I need extended features.  
Word/Pages for word processing, Excel/Numbers for spreadsheets, ...

>>If I didn't naively invested 17, 000 plus notes into this app, I would be crazy to stay.

It's very easy to export your data from Evernote.  
That's one of the top reasons I use this service;  I don't feel I'm locked in.

 

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7 minutes ago, Krunoslav said:

You said "It's very easy to export your data from Evernote." I don't see how that is possible and still maintain the structure, with images and text intact. Unless you know something I don't. If so do tell, 

I use the export to html feature on my Mac
The note content is exported as an html file.
Attachments are exported unchanged in the stored format.  If I stored an image in jpg format, I get a jpg file

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15 hours ago, DTLow said:

Ideally we know what to expect when the GA version is released, and can decide to upgrade or not.

;)

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14 hours ago, Krunoslav said:

I need to continue to work on the files/notes, which means that it has to be hosted in a note taking app such as Evernote, not as static HTML file.

I agree; it's not much fun editing at the html level.  I can get by with simple changes, but I think I'd possibly be importing into Word

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@Krunoslav

Major improvements were promised or given as excuse for putting up charges to a substantial degree. 

As the honourable @DTLow tells each and everyone what his expectations of the Evernote editor amount to and what another Guru member very recently  had to say re an ongoing issue with italics formatting and its wayward behaviour  "'italics, weird stuff, never used it, cannot think of any application"  I see attitudes I cannot share, nor ever reconcile with.  Evernote will not see another cent from me again yet I will retain my notes, simply run as free account. Practically all my new stuff is done in the other application and as I pay for Office365 anyway I use the full fledged version. 

Just to make it clear how Evernote presents itself on their German site, just read how much emphasis is put on note creation  https://evernote.com/intl/de/  

"Mit Evernote kannst du Notizen jederzeit und überall erstellen, organisieren und teilen. Dank der Synchronisierung hast du deine Ideen so immer in Griffweite"

Evernote's description is quite similar to that by M$ (who opted for more formal wording, still the done way to approach customers). 

   https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/store/p/onenote/9wzdncrfhvjl 

Evernote may make real efforts, but so far it has not paid off. Regardless of what build  released, not a single one was up to scratch.

If enough paying customers terminated their subscription Evernote might finally adopt a more respectful approach towards  their customers. 

Perhaps you should also consider a quiet retreat, because once you export a note in the pdf format MS word  can convert really very well to text and once tidied up transfer to the other note software is easy, reliable, above all free from unpleasant surprises when printed etc, apart from formatting scope unknown in Evernote.

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