arose10 42 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What is the character limit for note titles? What is the character limit for notebook titles? What is the character limit for tag titles? Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,736 Posted October 17, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 17, 2017 33 minutes ago, arose10 said: What is the character limit for note titles? ...notebook titles? ...tag titles? Why don’t you start typing and find out? I stopped typing after 200 characters There is the question of what’s a comfortable length in the display. You don’t really want lengthy tagnames; only the first n characters are displayed Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,589 Posted October 17, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 17, 2017 No length limits that I can see in the Evernote API. Type your heart out... Link to comment
arose10 42 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Okay. I tried this out in the Mac client, and I'm bumping into limits of approximately 250 characters for note titles, approximately 100 characters for notebook titles, and approximately 100 characters for tag titles. Is this consistent with other people's experience across Evernote? Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,656 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 hours ago, arose10 said: Okay. I tried this out in the Mac client, and I'm bumping into limits of approximately 250 characters for note titles, approximately 100 characters for notebook titles, and approximately 100 characters for tag titles. Is this consistent with other people's experience across Evernote? Never bothered to try it out, because as @DTLow suggested, all three titles are quite frequently displayed in situations where only the first N characters are visible. Good indexing practice suggests the meaning of those titles should be clear from that visible portion. Plus longer titles take more typing to generate an automatic match or to create in the first place. My current setup shows 30 characters for unindented Notebook and Tag titles (slightly less for indented ones, obviously...) and about 75 for note titles. That's for a fullscreen display. Smaller windows leave me with less space and/ or require scrolling. I aim for brevity at all times! Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,589 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 Looking a little deeper, I found the following constant definitions in the Evernote API (see https://dev.evernote.com/doc/reference/Limits.html): EDAM_NOTE_TITLE_LEN_MAX 255 EDAM_NOTEBOOK_NAME_LEN_MAX 100 EDAM_TAG_NAME_LEN_MAX 100 So these limits are enforced by the Evernote service. Link to comment
arose10 42 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 5 hours ago, gazumped said: Never bothered to try it out, because as @DTLow suggested, all three titles are quite frequently displayed in situations where only the first N characters are visible. Good indexing practice suggests the meaning of those titles should be clear from that visible portion. Plus longer titles take more typing to generate an automatic match or to create in the first place. My current setup shows 30 characters for unindented Notebook and Tag titles (slightly less for indented ones, obviously...) and about 75 for note titles. That's for a fullscreen display. Smaller windows leave me with less space and/ or require scrolling. I aim for brevity at all times! It's sort of ridiculous Evernote doesn't allow for the display of more characters. For example, I'm looking at the tags interface in the Mac client, and there's no reason more characters can't be displayed on the tags labels here. If Evernote is going to allow for up to 100 characters (which, in my opinion, is too small a limitation to begin with), then they should at least allow for the display of those characters when at all possible. I understand how having as much of a title displayed as possible is helpful from a visual standpoint, but if you're more reliant on search than visual scanning, does it really make a difference? For example, let's say I have two tags, "Fox Enterprises > Conferences > 2017 > November > IACP" and "Fox Enterprises > Conferences > 2017 > November > CCAN". Visually, these two tags might look the same since it's unlikely that the differentiating characters will be visible. However, from a search standpoint, differentiating between one and the other should be as simple as searching for "IACP" versus "CCAN", no? Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,280 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 So just use IACP and CCAN as your tags. Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,736 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, arose10 said: For example, let's say I have two tags, "Fox Enterprises > Conferences > 2017 > November > IACP" and "Fox Enterprises > Conferences > 2017 > November > CCAN". I gather you have duplicate IACP tags, so you're trying to make them unique In my view these should all be separate tags, although some could be combined Fox Enterprises Conferences 2017 November IACP Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,589 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, arose10 said: For example, let's say I have two tags, "Fox Enterprises > Conferences > 2017 > November > IACP" and "Fox Enterprises > Conferences > 2017 > November > CCAN". Wow. This is exactly what tags are *not* useful for. DTLow is correct; these should be broken down into separate pieces, each of which is a separate tag. Yes, some people do create artificial, very long tags to denote some form of hierarchy, or for search purposes (BTW, '>' is not useful for search), but I never quite bought into its general utility. To me, tags are short and simply descriptive, and you apply them in combinations as needed. Well, unless your native language (say German) conventionally allows you to create MonsterDescriptiveWords by tacking several pieces together, in which case, swing for the fences. Link to comment
arose10 42 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, jefito said: (BTW, '>' is not useful for search) How is that? Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,280 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, arose10 said: How is that? Underscore, '_' is the only special character that is searchable. Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,736 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, arose10 said: How is that? Evernote's search indexing removes special characters (except _). It's an efficiency thing Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,280 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, DTLow said: Evernote's search indexing removes special characters (except _). It's an efficiency thing For whom? Link to comment
arose10 42 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, DTLow said: Evernote's search indexing removes special characters (except _). It's an efficiency thing Got it. So it sounds like using other special characters doesn't derail searches or anything like that, it just doesn't contribute anything to them? Link to comment
Level 5* CalS 5,280 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, arose10 said: Got it. So it sounds like using other special characters doesn't derail searches or anything like that, it just doesn't contribute anything to them? Don't know if they contribute or not, they are treated as spaces, which can help sometimes. For example "at&t" searches for all occurrences of "at t", which means you will find all notes with at&t in them. FWIW. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,589 Posted October 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted October 18, 2017 Evernote Search Grammar reference: https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php Link to comment
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