adonsa 2 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hi, Ref: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005107-What-is-a-local-notebook- Need to create new local-only notebooks that will not sync. Following instructions in the above link, Quote Evernote for Mac: Click File > New Notebook > Local Notebook The option to create a local notebook was missing, only choices are private and shared., So, i created a private notebook, in the hopes that it would not sync. However, it did sync anyway. Is there a trick to creating a no-sync local notebook? Thanks much. Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted August 30, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted August 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, adonsa said: The option to create a local notebook was missing, hold OPTION down on your keyboard before clicking on file in your Menu Bar. The option will show then. Link to comment
adonsa 2 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Hi DTLow, thanks for your fast reply. Okay, i found the problem and this might be useful for other users (particularly Logitech keyboard users). On the Logitech G710+ Keyboard, the re-mapped windoze key (re-mapped to become option) on the left side will not change the file menu choices. However, the alt key on the right of the space bar will show it. It could very well be that having re-mapped the left side "windoze" key to become option did not suffice to become an option key recognizable by Evernote. Next, i dragged out an off brand 3rd party keyboard and the left side alt key allowed the local option to appear as it should, in the file menu. Thanks for enlightening me to the need to use the option key. 68-4 Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted August 30, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted August 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, adonsa said: Thanks for enlightening me to the need to use the option key. You’re welcome i should have also mentioned this warning. Make sure you back up your local notebooks. By definition, they aren’t uploaded to the servers so they are not being backed up by Evernote Link to comment
Tareq Salah 0 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Hi the OPTION button works fine but why this option need to be hidden? Is there a plan to make it visible? Thanks Link to comment
Fbruneault 0 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 6.13.1 on the Mac, holding the option key does not give the choice create a local notebook... Anyone else seeing this? Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted December 8, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 2017-09-05 at 2:11 AM, Tareq Salah said: the OPTION button works fine but why this option need to be hidden? 2 hours ago, Fbruneault said: On 6.13.1 on the Mac, holding the option key does not give the choice create a local notebook... Anyone else seeing this? Holding down the option key, select File > Local Notebook They are making it less easy to create Local Notebooks because too many users do not realize that the user is responsible for backing up their data. The Local Notebook is not sync'd to the servers, and not backed up by Evernote. If the database gets reloaded, the Local Notebooks are lost Link to comment
sspinner 0 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I agree with what Fbruneault said. I am running 6.13.1 on the Mac and holding the option key no longer adds the "New Local Notebook" item to the file menu. I use local notebooks at work since it is a violation of our policies to sync company information to third-party sites. This is the second time in a year that Evernote removed this feature with no warning or announcement. I am a Premium member and an avid Evernote enthusiast (almost an addict) but I find myself, once again, looking for alternatives to Evernote Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted December 18, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 hour ago, sspinner said: I agree with what Fbruneault said. I am running 6.13.1 on the Mac and holding the option key no longer adds the "New Local Notebook" item to the file menu. Did you hold down the option key before selecting the File menu Link to comment
mraacep 11 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 3:21 AM, DTLow said: Did you hold down the option key before selecting the File menu Haha, that got me too! On other Mac applications the menus change dynamically in front of your eyes as you press and release Option. Guess Evernote doesn't use that API for some reason. Definitely a really annoying, subtle glitch that sent me to Google and probably others too. Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 DTLow, thanks for this advice, and for the theory why the Create Local Notebook function is now hidden. Just checking: if I make an online notebook, where is the local copy of that online notebook/notes kept on my iMac? Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted February 20, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, evernoteforumQ said: if I make an online notebook, where is the local copy of that online notebook/notes kept on my iMac? There's no special location, the notes are stored in the database alongside the other notes. Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 OK, where is that database with the other notes? And does this mean I cannot find a special location for Local Notebooks either? Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, evernoteforumQ said: OK, where is that database with the other notes? To locate your database, use Evernote > Option Help > Troubleshooting >>And does this mean I cannot find a special location for Local Notebooks either? No, there's just a single database containing all your notebooks and notes Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks. If everything went to hell one day, would I be able to restore my notes using that folder from my Time Machine? Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, evernoteforumQ said: Thanks. If everything went to hell one day, would I be able to restore my notes using that folder from my Time Machine? It's do-able, but it's quite complicated The Evernote data is maintained on the Evernote server. We only have a copy on the Mac. Yes, you can restore the database from TM, and the first sync process will update your data from the server. For an "everything went to hell" solution, I maintain an html backup using the export feature Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 So I guess I would have these options: Rely on TM: (after a TM restore, can I assume that re-synching with the server would leave my Local Notebooks, Local Notes, and Tags in tact?) Use previously exported Html or Enex files (do both of these return tags when re-imported? If not, I guess I should use the TM method...) Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, evernoteforumQ said: can I assume that re-synching with the server would leave my Local Notebooks, Local Notes, and Tags in tact?) Confirmed, no impact to Local Note/Notebook data. Tags are a sync'd element >>Use previously exported Html or Enex files (do both of these return tags when re-imported? enex files maintain tags; html files do not. Neither maintain notebook Warning: enex/html file imports can not be used to reload notes. The import creates new notes. My restore solution is to copy/paste content from my html backup. Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks for confirming that about the TM method. Why copy/paste your html backup when you can import it to create a new but identical note? Is that because you want to maintain your tags/notebook hierarchy? I might consider using the enex option, as that would keep tags, although it would lose the notebook groupings. To be honest, I rely entirely on tags for navigation and don't really need my notebooks. I have six offline and three online purely for the purpose of keeping them at a reasonable size. Do you now of any limitations on how many notes an online and offline notebook can hold? Are there risk or downsides to having very large notebooks? Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, evernoteforumQ said: when you can import it to create a new but identical note? The "new" becomes an issue I'd you have links to the note. All the links point to the old note. My notes are heavily cross linked Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Ah, links to the note. I don't share notes with others, except occasionally via email, so that isn't an issue for me. The only thing would be losing my notebook groupings. I looked here https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/209005247-What-are-the-system-limits-of-Evernote- but couldn't find any limit for the number of notes in a notebook. Do you know? , and are there risks in having notebooks with 10,000 or more notes in? Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 sorry, to answer my question by quoting you so your comment in the link below means that there is no actual folder on my iMac that correlates directly to that notebook? (I think yes, based on your comments in the this thread above about the database) https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/102793-how-many-notes-can-i-create-in-a-notebook-as-a-basic-user/ Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,734 Posted February 21, 2018 Level 5* Share Posted February 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, evernoteforumQ said: limit for the number of notes in a notebook. Do you know? , and are there risks in having notebooks with 10,000 or more notes in? I don't think so; it's just database technology >>there is no actual folder on my iMac that correlates directly to that notebook? Confirmed. Notebooks are metadata maintained in the SQLite database Notes are not actually stored in a notebook; it's simply a field in the note record Link to comment
evernoteforumQ 4 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Got it, thanks very much for the explanation! Link to comment
tomizza 2 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 dear evernote plz adhere to some standards with your mac-version of evernote: pressing/releasing the Option (or Alt) ⌥ key should dynamically reveal/hide the optional menu items — this way the user can see in plain sight what changes (which menu options) ... why would anybody have to press (& keep holding pressed) the Option (or Alt) ⌥ key before opening a menu? stup*d https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines/macos/menus/menu-bar-menus/ thanx Link to comment
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