Quuzuu 5 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Hello everyone. I use Desktop Evernote for PC, and I'm confused about the behavior of Ctrl-Z Undo. I type a lot - emails, Word, online forums, text editors, and of course Evernotes. And I use Ctrl-Z a lot, it's became a reflex for me to use Ctrl-Z in many situations. And I've noticed that in Evernote PC, when I press Ctrl-Z, multiple steps are undone together, which is unique. The result of undo always come out differently from what I expect, and It always throw me off. I tried to figure out its pattern, but wasn't able to. Has this been discussed previously? What types of actions will be grouped together and undone together by Evernote PC? Thanks very much! Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,516 Posted August 1, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted August 1, 2017 Hi. Odd, because the Ctrl-Z issue I've seen mentioned here most is that it doesn't always restore an action - sometimes it's necessary to use that key combination more than once to get a reaction. Have you tried powering the device off and on again? If that doesn't help - on a Windows machine the easy standard fix is to uninstall, restart and reinstall the app. Link to comment
eric99 971 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 6 hours ago, gazumped said: If that doesn't help - eon a Windows machine the easy standard fix is to uninstall, restart and reinstall the app. This really sounds like regular Evernote support ;-) Link to comment
eric99 971 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I notice similar behaviour: CTRL-Z roll backs on line and/or token basis (chunks pasted into the text are undone at once) Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,516 Posted August 2, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted August 2, 2017 Hmmn. Maybe there have been some changes recently... Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,852 Posted August 2, 2017 Level 5 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Yeah, I had a surprisingly large amount of text removed by Ctrl-Z recently too. Not sure if it was typed or pasted, but mostly typed I think. And then I had to remember that the "Redo" shortcut is Ctrl-Y, not Ctrl-Shift-Z (a bit of Microsoft pollution, IMHO). Link to comment
Quuzuu 5 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 I'll give a simple example: Open Evernote, type "one plus one is two.". Then delete the word "two", and type "three" instead. Now you get "One plus one is three". Now, if you want to revert this change, you press Ctrl-Z, guess what happens? Now try in other text editors - email, MS Word, this forum, etc. You'll see the difference. Now my question is: Is there a solution to this behavior? It throws me off so often. Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,852 Posted August 4, 2017 Level 5 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Very good example to show the problem, which is quite real, though I don't know how recently it was introduced. Link to comment
Level 5* jefito 5,589 Posted August 4, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Quuzuu said: Open Evernote, type "one plus one is two.". Then delete the word "two", and type "three" instead. Now you get "One plus one is three". Now, if you want to revert this change, you press Ctrl-Z, guess what happens? This appeared to work fine for me, in the 6.6 GA. That is, it removed 'three' as a whole (i.e., not character by character), then put back 'two' as a whole (and highlighted it), then removed 'is', 'one', 'plus', and 'one'. Is this supposed to work differently? Link to comment
Level 5* tavor 668 Posted August 4, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Quuzuu said: I'll give a simple example: Open Evernote, type "one plus one is two.". Then delete the word "two", and type "three" instead. Now you get "One plus one is three". Now, if you want to revert this change, you press Ctrl-Z, guess what happens? Now try in other text editors - email, MS Word, this forum, etc. You'll see the difference. Now my question is: Is there a solution to this behavior? It throws me off so often. I've noticed odd/inconsistent CTRL+Z behavior in Evernote for years. But 6.6 does seem to behave correctly (at least as far I've noticed thus far). Using your example, it behaved as expected. Link to comment
Quuzuu 5 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 OMG it's true! 6.6 fixed it! I was using 6.5, and I updated to 6.6 and it's fixed! I would say it's really a coincidence that I posted this question at this timing. But thanks very much everybody! Link to comment
Level 5 Dave-in-Decatur 3,852 Posted August 5, 2017 Level 5 Share Posted August 5, 2017 OK, clearly time for me to update to 6.6! Glad to hear the good news anyway. Link to comment
Eric_S 0 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 It's not all good news. Ctrl+z will not work beyond a certain word count. I had a rather large piece of typing, highlighted it to copy and quite by accident, typed ctrl+v followed immediately by ctrl+z. It did not undo at all. Instead, a popup appeared that invited me to view my history. The catch is I would have had to upgrade to the $72/year plan to do so. Pretty dirty trick - no undo button, disable ctrl+z, and demand $72 to do what ordinarily ctrl+z should do. I'll be looking for another note program and repeating this incident whenever the opportunity arises. Link to comment
Level 5* gazumped 11,516 Posted September 2, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted September 2, 2017 On 29/08/2017 at 7:39 AM, Eric_S said: The catch is I would have had to upgrade to the $72/year plan to do so. Hi. Sympathies for the loss - we've all done that Ctrl-V Ctrl-Z thing on occasion. I wasn't aware there was an upper limit though. Any feeling for how much text was involved here - are we talking 100's or 1,000's of characters?? I couldn't make Ctrl-Z fail on a test note here. (Upgrading is the only way to get note history, but even if you upgraded to Premium for one month only, the feature would still work. ) Link to comment
Eric_S 0 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3500 characters. It's billed annually so no one month option. Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,735 Posted September 3, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Eric_S said: It's billed annually so no one month option. These are my options when I update my subscriptions Canadian Address Link to comment
Eric_S 0 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Right, 12 payments of $7.99 ($95.88) or 1 payment of $69.99. No option of just 1 month. Link to comment
Level 5* DTLow 5,735 Posted September 9, 2017 Level 5* Share Posted September 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Eric_S said: Right, 12 payments of $7.99 ($95.88) or 1 payment of $69.99. No option of just 1 month. You would subscribe for the monthly payment plan, then cancel the renewal before the month is over Link to comment
psychodougie 5 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Yep ctrl-z has always been weird. Glad to hear it's a bit better now. It's also complicated by the annoying lack of word-count for highlighted sections. That is, to get word count for a section, you need to copy it into a new note, or delete the other text and restore thereafter. But the weird behaviour of ctrl-z can make losing text very hazardous if you need to get sectional word counts. Link to comment
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