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Handwriting Tool like MyScript Nebo in Evernote

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I would love to see an integration or the possibility of Myscript Nebo in Evernote.

I think Evernote is a note taking tool. I love to write with apple pencil. I dont want to use other Apps like penultimat. I wish i could open Evernote start a new note and write with pencil as good as myscript nebo it offers. 

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Nebo is by far the best at text recognition. It is at least 5 times better than anything else out there. Would love to see it integrated with Evernote. 

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Another vote for Nebo integration. The handwriting recognition and gesture implementation (like scribbling to delete) is superb. If it’s not possible to add all this directly into Evernote, I’d settle for the kind of sync provided with Penultimate, direct to notebooks without changing the format. I don’t like storing notes as PDFs or Word documents unless I’m editing that document; I like to be able to see what I’ve written from the note preview. 

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2 hours ago, Andi123 said:

I would love to see an integration or the possibility of Myscript Nebo in Evernote.

I think Evernote is a note taking tool. I love to write with apple pencil. I dont want to use other Apps like penultimat. I wish i could open Evernote start a new note and write with pencil as good as myscript nebo it offers. 

I'll check out Nebo

I have no concern with using other editors for note taking; my favourite app on the iPad is Notability
Using the share feature, it's easy to store my writing in Evernote as an fileattachment; in native or pdf format

What kind of integration are you looking for?

 

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I'm a longtime Evernote user.  Back to coming out of my Newton (developer) withdrawals.  :)  Evernote holds everything in my world.

But now, with my iPad Pro, i LIVE in MyScript Nebo.  It lets me do all my content creation (meeting notes, articles, ideas) in handwriting that is near-perfectly recognized as text.

My wish would be to do that same creation *within* Evernote.  I'd simply be back to living in Evernote again.

I can imagine you guys making their page tool part of evernote.  I can also see it via better transfer of formatted notes into evernote, retaining more than just plain text, which is all I can export now.

Thanks everyone! Love Evernote!

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Is there any further movement on this? The Nebo note taking experience is streets ahead of any other app I have seen. Can we get that functionality embedded within Evernote ao we don’t need to switch between? I’m answer to the question above, I’m happy for this to be a premium only feature. To be honest the Apple Pencil and Nebo have transformed how I work to such an extent that if Evernote don’t do this, I’m likely to stop paying for premium and look elsewhere.

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Have you tried the app with new iPad and Pencil. Writing in these app is very natural without any lags like in notability, noteshelf, ... On the other side the instant transformation of handwriting is incredible. 

I want to use as few apps as possible. Integrate this well working process of natural writing and transformation direct in Evernote would be a great step forward:

Example: Open a new note in meetings, handwriting and after meeting transform this to typed text instant - without using a third party app without syncing or export as pdf. 

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6 hours ago, Andi123 said:

Have you tried the app with new iPad and Pencil.

The apps work well for handwriting and sketching

I'm checking out GoodNotes which has a similar featureset including OCR.  An additional benefit is opening two windows on my iPad Pro and transcribing my handwriting section by section.  I need this to correct errors; my handwriting quality is sad

I'm also using  Myscript Stylus.  It's an alternate keyboard replacing the letter keys with a handwriting area.  It converts your handwriting on the fly while you write

 

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It seems that MyScript actually license out their technology for other developers to use

http://www.myscript.com/interactive-ink/

I'm no app developer, but it looks like it would be less work than expected to have a high quality handwriting environment within Evernote. 

While OCR is useful with things exported from other apps, it's cumbersome to start a document in a handwriting app, edit it in Evernote then do a bit more writing in the handwriting app later. A solution like incorporating interactive ink into the Evernote editor would seemingly enable this, and make Evernote so powerful for me as a University student taking notes in different contexts.

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On 2017-06-26 at 7:10 AM, Callum Buchanan said:

I'm no app developer, but it looks like it would be less work than expected to have a high quality handwriting environment within Evernote. 

There are so many feature requests which say "It would be easy ....."
I question this, and if users would be willing to pay for this feature

I use Evernote's editor for basic notes; I'm content to use dedicated apps when I need extended features

>>A solution like incorporating interactive ink into the Evernote editor would seemingly enable this

I actually store the file as an attachment in it's native format.  For example Word doc files, Notability note files

 

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Am I willing to pay for such a great PDF annotation tool? Yes I will. It can cost up to $50 a year and I'm still in. 

Evernote is a tool for writing things down and I'm wondering why it belittles digital handwritings which is essential for the people who desire paperless life. 

Taking a photo of Post-its and OCR them for future search is a lousy thing to do, but they made this feature so that we can at least try to connect our everyday writings to Evernote. 

Why not take a step further and make some awesome feature that'll really punch in the face of Onenote users who claim it's better?

 

 

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I also wish to see Nebo integration with Evernote or Evernote licensing this handwriting engine.

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I totally agree with previous comments.

I own an iPad Pro and the typing thing is from an old age.

Even MS in PowerPoint allows you to recognize hand writing and even drawing figures.

Anyway we already pay every year so if Evernote does not want to lose wore subscribers it will be about time to incorporate this new possibility. Tablets at work will overrule laptop. 

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You're welcome to add your vote to this request.  Voting buttons are at the top left corner  of the discussion.

Evernote has not indicated an  interest in expanding into the handwriting market.
My solution is to use external editors like Notability on my iPad.
I store the documents in a note as a file attachment, in pdf format.

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36 minutes ago, DTLow said:

You're welcome to add your vote to this request.  Voting buttons are at the top left corner  of the discussion.

Evernote has not indicated an  interest in expanding into the handwriting market.
My solution is to use external editors like Notability on my iPad.
I store the documents in a note as a file attachment, in pdf format.

Finally I bought Nebo. Very happy with it as it is full compatible with MS Office. So,perfect for work. 

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Personally I prefer GoodNotes 5. But i agree - any good handwriting solution directly going into a note and staying editable would be very nice.

Currently I import from GN as a pdf, which means I can annotate the pdf, or have to go back to GN to edit. That works pretty well for static notes, especially because they are searchable (sort of OCRed), but not for ongoing stuff.

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My key request in this is, I think, the harder one: incorporate handwriting as a first-class input type IN Evernote.  
That's the reason I mention Nebo specifically; they license their engine and from the examples, it's at least do-able. (I agree with the above comment that "should be easy" is always a dangerous thing to operate on).

 

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Many of the leading handwriting apps use Nebo's underlying technology MyScript. While the Nebo app is not as feature-rich as some of the others -- GoodNotes, Notability, Noteshelf 2 (my personal favorite because it automatically syncs to Evernote) -- for conversion from handwriting-to-text Nebo is unmatched. Since no further development is being done to Penultimate, I would welcome MyScript being integrated into Evernote.

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So do I. 

I'm also a Nebo user and an Evernote subscriber, and I think it is unbelievable that Evernote does not provide a solution where you can use Apple Pen. It's just doesn't make sense for a note app. 

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19 minutes ago, BAB said:

I think it is unbelievable that Evernote does not provide a solution where you can use Apple Pen. It's just doesn't make sense for a note app.

I use Apple Pencil and store the documents in Evernote

Evernote provides a solution for using any app you chose.  The document can be stored in a note as a file attachment.

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50 minutes ago, DTLow said:

I use Apple Pencil and store the documents in Evernote

Evernote provides a solution for using any app you chose.  The document can be stored in a note as a file attachment.

I guess my post was not clear. I am talking about using the Apple Pen anywhere you want. 

For instance when I save a web page in Evernote, you cannot make any annotation on the page like you will do on a PDF. 

Having annotations apart on another file  and as a file attachment is not a way to work especially with other colleagues. 

Today in order to manage my expectations I have to use 3 applications: Evernote, Nebo and PDF Expert. 

It does not make my life easy...

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54 minutes ago, BAB said:

For instance when I save a web page in Evernote, you cannot make any annotation on the page like you will do on a PDF. 

Confirmed, you can not make annotations to bare note contents; you can annotate pdf/image file attachments.

I can save a web page in pdf or image format

The background tech here is that note contents are stored in enml/html format

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21 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Confirmed, you can not make annotations to bare note contents; you can annotate pdf/image file attachments.

I can save a web page in pdf or image format

The background tech here is that note contents are stored in enml/html format

Thanks for your response. However I do not agree with you so I guess I'm missing something. 

On the iPad Pro when you are using Safari and you are sending a web page to Evernote you cannot choose the file format, correct?

Then when you read the saved page in Evernote you cannot use Apple Pencil to draw or write on that page.  

Not sure we are talking about the same thing. I even Google it and there is no solution to do it. Otherwise please  provide tutorial link. 

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@BABMy preferred workflow on the iPad Pro to get stuff into Evernote in a controlled way is this:

  • Open the web page
  • Whenever possible, switch to the reader version
  • Tick "share", tick "print". A print window will open. Select the range of pages you want to transfer (in reader view, it is mostly the whole document, in web site view you often have a lot of clutter on the backward pages).
  • Put 2 fingers (best thumb + 1 finger) on the little document shown, pinch outward like you want to open the little preview
  • Bang - the little thing opens - what you have now is a pdf version of the website (in reader mode)
  • Tick on "share" again, select Evernote, change the title if needed, pick a notebook, select tags, save

Voila - you now have a clean copy of the website content as a pdf in Evernote - and this pdf you can annotate using your pencil, or whatever.

I prefer this way above clipping the page directly. It comes out clean and reliable, can be opened, shared further, annotated etc. The trick to go through the share-print-process does not only work with websites and Safari - you can create a pdf of nearly whatever you have in many apps by this, not only to send it into Evernote, but save or work on it in many other apps (depending of what you have installed on your device).

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Regarding the original topic of this thread: yes, Evernote and Nebo DEFINITELY need to talk to each other!

I have difficulty understanding why a note taking app (Evernote, that I value and pay for)  completely avoids developing handwriting functions. To me, it's integral. 

Another thing I don't understand: Evernote already recognizes handwriting!! If I can upload a picture that includes handwriting,  and Evernote makes it searchable, that means... Evernote recognizes it as text, right? So, it's not as if they must embark on a very difficult development journey to "figure out" how to recognize handwriting as text. The app already does it. Isn't it a simple step from there to actually render the handwriting as text, just like Nebo does? 

I understand everyone wants to avoid feature creep, and wheel reinvention. The obvious solution is: integration. Find another service that already does what you want your app to do, and make them play nicely together.

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4 hours ago, jampff said:

I have difficulty understanding why a note taking app (Evernote, that I value and pay for)  ...To me, it's integral. 

Evernote's core is a storage/organization service for notes, documents and other files
(that I value and pay for)
An editor is provided for notes in enml/html format.  
(it's free but I value and use this for basic notes)

>>Another thing I don't understand: Evernote already recognizes handwriting!!

Evernote provides an OCR feature for image and pdf files.
Handwriting is identified in images, and a text file is generated of possible matches
More documentation at https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208314518-How-Evernote-makes-text-inside-images-searchable

>>I understand everyone wants to avoid feature creep, and wheel reinvention. ... Find another service that already does what you want...

That's my solution.  I use Notability on my iPad
The documents are stored in Evernote as file attachments

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