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  1. Dear Evernote iOS development team, Please include nested tags / hierarchy into the iOS version! I finally made the move to become a premium user after discovering the the usefulness of tag nesting / hierarchy in organising notes on the Mac Evernote. Just about to port all my notes into evernote, then I realised the iOS version can't see the nested / heirarchy structure !! aagh and I've just paid for a whole year subscription ...bummer~ I understand there are tonnes of requests out there, but this seems to be a crucial notes organisation feature to be considered for inclusion? Please add this feature in line with the desktop apps please? My setup: Mac Evernote (on iMac) - for work at home iOS 8 Evernote (on iPad + keyboard) - for taking notes during work and conferences.
  2. Two strong caveats: Don't get your hopes up. This is a Beta we're talking about, and one I've not used in anger yet, so I could be very wrong. But Evernote just introduced a new Business beta with a feature called 'Spaces'. Where previously you had Stacks, containing Notebooks, containing Notes, you can now have Spaces.. containing Notebooks, containing Notes. What's the difference? (I hear you ask). You can apparently share spaces. So far this is between members of the same business account, and Spaces are not (yet, and AFAIK) shareable to other accounts. But between partners, and within small businesses, it seems to me Evernote Business just got a whole lot more interesting. (Remember though that the Business client requires somewhat more admin than a personal account!) Don't know where Evernote is going with this, and I don't mean to hijack the official threads. But I don't usually look at the Business stuff that comes across my screen - I'm not a user, am happy with the accounts I have (premium plus a couple of basics) and didn't need the extra learning curve in my timeline without a very good reason to change. I hadn't heard of Spaces until it was trailed in a recent Mac update, but on first glance it does seem to have some very useful applications when sharing (to colleagues), and possibly also in project management and GTD - see the video in the first link above. I shall be making the switch soon... There may also be hierarchy implications - it's easy to make new spaces and add notebooks, and I don't yet know whether that makes things more flexible or not; but I'm keen to find out. I wanted to post this in the General thread so other Business post skippers will see the item, but if you do have any reactions after using the Business client, please post them in the appropriate thread (see the home page). Edited for accuracy. Another edit to include this link...
  3. Evernote couldn't get rid of it old cons - it has bad user interface and it works slow. So I quit Evernote after years of trying to benefit from it. I used Basic, I used Premuim for year or two - it doesn't matter. I always end up collecting a bunch of unrelated data I can't use. Sync with that evernote-award-winning Swipes didn't help. Nothing did. I quit Evernote for the bunch of reasons, here's main: speed, structure, user interface and threrefore - usability. Speed Now I use Simplenote each time I need a quick text pastebox or a quick note. 1680 plain text bits and counting. Size varies from the names to articles or the books. Search is a lightning. Launches less than in a second, works offline everywhere, syncs flawlessly. Extra options - txt in zip archive, dropbox sync. For free. Structure Workflowy is for the structure, tasks, notes and thinking process. I keep there 20.000 + and counting notes and texts. Still works faster than Evernote did. 2 seconds to launch desktop chrome app which works offline and 3-4 seconds for mobile app on the iPhone 5. Workflowy has it's cons but there's a structure can't be beaten. I outline my 20.000 notes they way they can be seen in a 600x280px window. Though I prefer 600x780px to see 30 lines of my data. Wonder what are the dimesions and the complexity of the interface needed to handle this data ocean? 600x73px. 8 buttons and a search field. I use 3 of them. Also there were 6 keyboard shortcuts I needed to remember. 2 of them was "copy" and "paste" I happen two know before. Copy and paste works for thousands of notes user can move and outline in the same time. #tags for additional organisation. Works instantly. All tags can be placed anywhere in text. Rest is done by the google drive, google keep, google docs and related services. Images? Paperless? One can shoot and save photos right into the folders on the google drive today. + You can save images for your research right from the google image search. Camscanner is the best tool to digitalize documents. Can't be beaten today. Dropbox provides save features without image fine-tuning. Png, or PDF. Dropbox Recorder app is used to record long audio - this is the only tool I'm not sure is the best on the market, I'll be thankful for better advice. Still - today I see the once revolutionary ideas in the fundament of the Evernote was neatly implemented by others. I can write, record, photo, collect, outline and never forget anything without good old elephant. The thing is Evernote is still the only tool that can do everything at once somehow. So there's a few people might be happy to stick with it. It's just not for me. Every time I've looked at the Evernote for this years I felt a strong urge to redesign it from the scratch. For now - farewell, Evernote. We're done untill I get a letter from the HQ hiring me to prototype the new everything ) PS I decided to post this here because of the continuous error {"success":"false","reason":"csrf_failure"} on the Premium to Basic transition page.
  4. ... tomorrow afternoon? Why does this take so long? Why does it seem to be of apparently such a low priority? Is ist too difficult to implement, is there too little development capacity, or is there really too little public interest in this features? Strangely, every new iOS version (and to a certain degree also OSX version) brings other "cloudy" surprises: first a grey on grey tag cloud, and now, even "cloudier", different colors for weighing my tags, i guess to tell me how often I use each one of them. Seems as if my iPhone wants to tell me: "Don't read, just look at those nice colors - you do not remember your tags anyway". Second thought: this must be a contest! "Look, this tag is veeery dark green. You really made it to write this tag 12 times with the same letters on each of your notes. Congrats, pal". Tag, tag, tag, where do you go from here. Back on earth, what really bothers me now (apart from the meaning of life): Can one honestly keep a clear view after years in evernote, without a good sorted tag structure? - I'd like not only to search and find a note, I want to review my notes. - When my contexts are changing, my brain is changing. Fragments are changing place. Tags have to change. I must have an overview of my tags. Without hierarchy, my tags are in a black hole. - I do sort my notes hierarchically in windows, in the web, and with some more troubles even on the mac. Why not on the iPad. What I'd like to see is well organized content. What I see is stylish design with nice clouds, attracting people to throw notes at and forget about 100% everything. I heard there is a evernote version called "for business"...?
  5. I developed a web-service which enables evernote users to automate there evernote. The application has three major features: Automatically adding parent tags from tag hierarchies Create rules to modify notes (change tags, move to notebook, organize reminders, share with friends, change title, ...) depending on configurable conditions, whenever notes are updated or created Export your reminders as *.ics file. These files could be subscribed or add to most common calendar applications. With this you can see all your evernote reminders in your calendar app. I'm looking for users for testing my service. You can start as beta tester via this link: filterize.net. Using this link, you can test the service for free until end of June. For feedback you can contact me via different channels. As I like my weekends and I'm also on a normal job you get response within 3 days for every feedback. But if it is not night in Germany you will get it much faster. ;-) Direct contact via email: beta@filterize.net Using personal message within this forum Feedback and feature request could be discussed on the filterize-facebook-page Bugs can be postet on the bug tracker I setup a newsletter for announcements I hope you enjoy the web-service. Start testing now! Update #1: We are in stable status now for standard accounts (Free, Plus, and Premium). Thanks a lot to all testers! Now, we are working on business accounts. If you are interested in testing for business, let me know. Best regards, Pascal Held
  6. I am converting from using a Notebook organizational system to using tags due to the ability to nest tags to several levels. When I am in the "Tag" view, looking at all of my tags and beginning to nest "child" tags underneath "parent" tags (by dragging), I am finding that sometimes EN won't allow the nesting. I have tried to figure out when it will and when it won't allow this (e.g. no nesting under tag with zero occurrences OR no nesting two more levels without an occurrence OR ...), but I am not finding a rhyme or reason for the issue. It just will not allow me to nest some tags while other tags nest without a problem. Please help me. What are the rules for when you can and cannot nest one tag under another? Where can I find these rules? Using Evernote 6.0.3 on MacBook Pro. Thanks!
  7. There are some discussions during the last years e.g. https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/57740-the-benefit-of-using-tags/ https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/35420-nested-notebook-stacks https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/93389-do-you-find-lots-of-notebooks-or-notebook-stacks-useful with a lot of convincing arguments, some good sample szenarios and statements - but also some misunderstanding and conventionalism to different szenarios - anyway, that's how I understand Evernote and its features. What do I mean? Basic considerations: in our private/office surroundings we are used to store a piece of paper in a tray, many papers in a folder, folders in racks etc. Physically (!) organized according to the categorie (shipping note, letter...), date (year...) etc. Similar to groceries in the kitchen. These objects are real and in relatively small quantity. And we have a certain place in mind (folder, rack) where to store - and to find (!). But when the quantity increases to thousands (like in a stock) and furthermore gets virtual like in a database like Evernote. Organization is done not by physics, but by information management. Not a certain place is relevant for organization, but other items. As a result the objects (goods in stock, files in computer, data in database) are stored chaotically (files - even cut in pieces, the FAT knows ...). How to organize this chaos? Well, each object gets one or more flags with description(s) of the essential features (producer, type of device, identifier, ...). What does this mean for Evernote? (The following items are valid - in my view - for those who use Evernote as a big database with occasional access as for those with daily intensive use in conjunction with shortcuts/favorites...) notebooks: there is no need for more than one=1 notebook (or only a few). As they do (should!) not have any relevance to organizational methods. Exception: (1) synced notebooks and local notebooks=no cloud=no syncing (2) notebook sharing in business version, (3) archive (not necessarily), (4) temperary purpose (as shown below). tags: they are the above mentioned flags. And - with an intelligent (!) nomenclatura - in a very effective manner. Name and structure of tags has to consider their handling: (1) tagging=assign one ore more tags (2) search via task symbol or left column (Windows) or saved search (3) shortcut/favorite. that means: criteria are (a) as few tags as possible (b) self-explanatory names (c) easy tagging via task bar icon (d) easy search via task bar icon task hierarchy: this is a logical (!) synopsis where the user can build a structure of tags. It only is of logical interest with user-relevant topics. And this must be understood - for the behaviour of Evernote this structure is completely non-relevant. There is no effect if a tag is located in the 1. or 2. or...level n. And that means: there is no relationship between the logical tag structure/hierarchy and the mode of operation of the tags. Expressions like "nested tags", "child-tags", "parent-tags" put the focus to an apperent properties which do not exist. (one implication following: the names of tags must be unique, even if they are located in different levels). You may swirl the above shown structure e.g. put all categories and tags in level 1: the logical structure is gone, but the tags work in the same way as before. Example (extract) in consideration with my own tag synopsis: transferring this blog via task bar icon to my Evernote I tag as follows: .WHEN .WHAT = category 1. level .IT = category 2. level .IT_Evernote = category 3. level IT_en_forum = tag 4. level IT_en_literature IT_en_syntax IT_en_tag = tag 4. level .IT_software IT_soft_windows10 .IT_hardware IT_hard_SSD .projects .projects_active proj_2016_SchermElectronic_PreAmplifier .projects_finished xproj_2015_Beyerdynamics_DT880 .WHO .company comp_Microsoft .media media_NYT media_xyz .person pers_TMichael = tag 3. level .WHERE .city city_washington city_london Given tasks are bold faced. Three tags on 3. and 4. level - number of level doesn't make any difference tags with a prefix (. oder @ or # ) are not used as tags - they are catagories, classes in order to organize in a logical/topical manner. tags are only those without any prefix. And these "real" tags are always in the highest level of the appropiate tree. Never the 1st oder 2nd in my synopsis. The naming of the tags follows the class. "pers_TMichael" indicates, that the tag belongs to the class "person" (shortform "pers") and the name of the person is "TMaichael", separated by a "_" (do not use space, because of more difficult use in searches). This has advantages for tagging and searching procedure: input of "pers_" lists all task with this leading expression. Even for a list of all notes which have the "pers"-prefix: make a search like "tag:per_*" and you will get all notes with tagged as persons. (same with "tag:IT_en_*" shows all notes with Evernote-tags). Advantage: the Evernote user only has to remember resp. keep in mind a small quantity of categories like "IT_en" or "pers", the rest will be listed by Evernote. Not hundreds or thousands of tags to remember. The part ".projects" (every project contains a bunch of notes) will show two items: name of tag might contain catagory and more than one identifier to differ and inform as well. When the project ist finished, the tags gets the prefix "x" and is moved to the project_finished section. The according notes themselves are not involved which is logical: this does belong organization and not the contant of the notes. Thus one has access to all active projects with "proj_" and to finished projects with "xproj_". And how to manage a project with a bunch of notes? This is another question...remember the barkeeper in "Irma la Douce"? With this tag naming I don't see any need for tagging the whole bunch of tags from the 1st up to the highest level proposed by JMichaelITX. There is no advantage but much more work. (even in case of listing all WHAT-notes one can do this with a temporary tag; but I don't think this is a realistic or often used szenario). Thus said the pseudo NB tags which are proposed by JMichaelITX do not make any sense in my opinion. The names in the first level in JMichaelITX's synopsis start with NB. What happens if you drop this NB and make it Business, Personal, IT etc. - nothing. Simulate the existance of notebooks which do not exist is self-deception. It is more confusing than illustrative, the "NB" is an empty statement. I think it is better to change way of thinking and stop using notebooks for organization, even as pseudo or wannabe. Last but not least: JMichaelITX mentioned the use or reminders with these pseudo NB-tags. But - what about using a search like "remindertime:*" or "remindertime:day -remindertime:day+2" or "remindertime:year -remindertime:year+1" and so on ? And if you use check boxes too: "-remindertime:day+2 remindertime:day-7 todo:false" will list tasks with reminders from last week till tomorrow. Transfer these and other saved searches to shortcuts and position them on top of the shortcut list. Done. I agree, this approach (tag naming etc.) is not new, often proposed and discussed in similar modes in this forum. Nevertheless my impression is that many users don't see the difference between tags themselves (function, importance, usage) and the nature, properties of the tag synopsis. As well as being proud to use no or only a few tags. Or flag their notes with keywords in the title. And so on.. Waiting for constructive criticism, counter-arguments, improvements, questions...
  8. I just upgraded to version 6 and am not sure that is the problem, but I am unable to nest existing tags beneath a newly created one. Existing tags can be nested with each other just fine. But, if I create a new top level tag and drag an existing tag on top of it, it just snaps back. Am I missing something? Ken
  9. Need the ability to NEST notes and notebooks; started abandoning Everynote as a result. Been using Evernote for a few years. Now using it heavily and tags aren't cutting it and wastes more time trying to organize and manage tags and stacks. Please do not respond explaining the benefits of tags, keywords, search, stacks. Keep the benefits of tags, keywords, search, stacks ~ just not at the expense of the nested hierarchy. No links to related articles, tutorials, demos, blogs on how to use tags and how to organize. ---- Keep the tags, but please allow nesting. Notebook and stacks, tags...aren't getting the job done. One can say it is mindset, need to change the mindset and adjust to a new way of organization. Spent obscene amount of time over the last 2 years trying to use and adjust to tags; reading blogs, best practices, research etc..even looking for 3rd party add ons, iOS apps etc. The more content added, the more content that gets lost... the larger volume of data the harder it is to find... must rely on memory for search terms, tags etc. Nesting allows an easy way to browse and find content. Also, you can train a group of people to work within hierarchy, but not tags.
  10. Just from a brief review, it seems that everyone has the same questions, and they often raise them as they explore. I would imagine that this who answer can get impatient as the same questions pop up daily. Thanks in advance for your patience. I’ve been using Evernote for about 2-3 weeks. I’ve got a Macbook Pro and an iPhone 5. My initial model was to use a traditional unlimited hierarchy. I was initially concerned about 3 levels, but then questioned my mental model. Most all the stacks of papers on and around my desk (timberrrr) end up in two file drawers. Well, I could replicate that with two stacks. And it’s probably easier to find what I’m looking for online with a search. In my file cabinet, my auto insurance might be in an insurance folder, or a car folder….and was it filed under C for car insurance or I for Insurance-car? I can live with three layers. I may have to use search more than browse. Even in my first few weeks, I've reorganized. I expect I'll do more. Moving within a level is easy. But what about changing the document type from one level to another? Can I change a note to a notebook, and (I won't list the other five permutations). If not, how have others handled this? I know I can create a new empty document, copy the information than delete the original, but the extra steps seem unnecessary.
  11. Hello, Though I really do like the new evernote interface, I am not able to group my tags under each other, have sub-sections within each other - or well - basically a hierarchy. Is there an alternative option or is there a way to switch back to the old evernote. Thank You.
  12. When trying to tag a new note created in Evernote for Android, the tag list has no hierarchy, rather its in alphabetical order. Anyone else find this counter-intuitive? I've gone through the trouble of creating the tag hierarchy only to have it removed when needed in Android. If any dev's are checking this out, this is just a constructive criticism of EN5 for Android. It would be more efficient to have the tag hierarchy maintained when trying to tag a note in Android. The only workaround I know is to create tags that have the hierarchy in them. This becomes cumbersome and the tags get long. For example: Projects Projects.Work Projects.Personal Projects.Home Projects.Home.Basement Projects.Home.Attic Music Music.Business Music.Songs Music.Song Ideas Music.Song Ideas.Completed etc.
  13. An Evernote newbie here. I signed up for Evernote after seeing a demo video. This video left the impression that notes could be organized in an arbitrary hierarchy, and that was the feature that appealed to me. Thus upon signing up, I was surprised to learn that only a 3-deep hierarchy is permitted. Since then I have been casting around trying to see what experienced users use in place of hierarchy, and I'm not having much luck finding this out. Let me give an example of how I would use hierarchy if it was available. At the top level would be "my life", with nodes for each of several social aspects of my life, and nodes for each project I was working on. Take a project node for a book I'm working on. Within this would be nodes for things like "salient points", "chapter ideas", "other books", etc. Within "other books" would be nodes for each one of a number of relevant books, within each book node would be nodes for each chapter of the book, within each chapter would be notes summarizing the chapter, etc., etc. Even this simple example is deeper than Evernote permits, and it is easy to see the need for even deeper levels. So, how do experienced Evernote users represent "their whole life" (as many claim to do), with only 3 levels? What is used to substitute for the fact that our minds certainly divide our lives up into far more levels than that? Suggestions solicited. Thanks. --Milton--
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