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OK this comes out of a recent Amazon purchase of 6 separate items, but might be applicable to other types of note... My normal process when buying something has been to copy the on-screen order confirmation and the inevitable email receipt(s) [I use PayPal] into a note with the title <date> - purchase - vendor - item so it's all together. Any subsequent emails get dragged and dropped from my Outlook inbox to the note via the desktop as separate little MSG files like this - ...the final delivery note gets added to the note and COMPLETE goes into the title. You'll notice the minor problems here - emails get dragged to the desktop before being added to the note; and the file date shows as the date it was moved across, not the date of the email. Don'tcha love Windows... But at least I keep all the random emails connected with a purchase out of my inbox and my Outlook database. They're more searchable in one place - Evernote - and double-clicking an icon opens the original email in Outlook so I can remind or reply if necessary. (I now have inbox zero on three of my four main email addresses!) An alternative would be for me to save each email as a separate note, and scan in any paper I receive, and then merge all the notes on completion. It would actually be more efficient to do this to individual emails and delivery notes rather than search Evernote for the 'control' copy and attach each element. But emails contain a lot of sales rubbish as well as the product and price details I need: and a merged note is a very long note (I've done it a few times) if it shows all the details inline. What I'm wondering is: if there's any review of the note linking process so's to make tables of content-style control panels easier to create manually, could we also get the option to include a linked note as an attachment so it's possible to open the content if required, but in normal views you just get the link / icon. I can already think of lots of potential problems with the idea, but if anyone else thinks optionally being able to see linked notes inline in the 'table of contents' note body would be useful, please show your support for the idea in the usual way...
Tell me what the purpose of EverNote is again? Isn't it to get organized? A couple of years ago when I started using EverNote I assumed that some of the limitations were due to a learning curve on my part, but now I'm seeing them as intrinsic to EverNote. I've complained previously. These problems include: Only one level of nesting is possible (Notebook Stack and Notebook). You have more flexibility by just setting up a file structure in the cloud and storing files there directly, bypassing EverNote completely. This is a crazy limitation for software that I'm paying for monthly. This is something that hasn't improved in the last 3 years. When you select a notebook stack you see the full set of notes in all notebooks within that stack. The first impression is that it's showing notes at the level of the stack, not all notes in all notebooks within the stack. If you're trying to get organized you want to go through the files and place them in different notebooks. However if you drag or move a note to a notebook, the screen refreshes and the note appears again. Unless you open the note there is no way to see what notebook the note is in. This makes it impossible to clean up and refine where notes are filed. Here again, it's easier with a file structure, making me wonder again what the purpose of EverNote is if you're left with just a pile of random notes that can't be conveniently filed where they belong. Oddly enough you can move a note to a notebook, but there's no way to tell what notebook a note is in unless you open it. In other words, when you move a note you don't know if you're just "moving" it to the same notebook it's already in.
I've looked over the 33 page long thread regarding more deeply nested notebooks and some other threads. The only posts from verified Evernote employees that I saw only offered alternatives to notebook nesting (which is usually the hierarchical tagging system), which seem to have been clearly identified as useful, but not identified as negating the use of a more "folder" or "directory" like hierarchy, which also clearly seems to be desired by many many users. Personally, I'm at the point where I will be looking for an alternative, or making my own.. probably using Github, and making a small OSX wrapper app that is just a text editor along side the repository so I can make many generations of happy little folders. I'm sad to say that, because Evernote is superb in every way except this one, but this is the one I need most. My question is to Evernote, what are your reasons for not implementing this feature?
Need the ability to NEST notes and notebooks; started abandoning Everynote as a result. Been using Evernote for a few years. Now using it heavily and tags aren't cutting it and wastes more time trying to organize and manage tags and stacks. Please do not respond explaining the benefits of tags, keywords, search, stacks. Keep the benefits of tags, keywords, search, stacks ~ just not at the expense of the nested hierarchy. No links to related articles, tutorials, demos, blogs on how to use tags and how to organize. ---- Keep the tags, but please allow nesting. Notebook and stacks, tags...aren't getting the job done. One can say it is mindset, need to change the mindset and adjust to a new way of organization. Spent obscene amount of time over the last 2 years trying to use and adjust to tags; reading blogs, best practices, research etc..even looking for 3rd party add ons, iOS apps etc. The more content added, the more content that gets lost... the larger volume of data the harder it is to find... must rely on memory for search terms, tags etc. Nesting allows an easy way to browse and find content. Also, you can train a group of people to work within hierarchy, but not tags.