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58 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Oh, wow. If I drill this down, there are at least 3 narratives that resonate through the centuries. You can even go back to the Greek philosophers of the old ages (probably the first pieces of literature we know about) and will find them:

1) I‘ve warned you what will happen long ago ...
(just warn often enough, and by chance you get it right from time to time, as on the day when the sails of the Persian fleet populated the horizon)

2) The youth of today ...
(which probably was said at all times, which in itself proves it is wrong. Because these young guys of today became the old hacks later, uttering the same moaning)

3) Back then, in the good old days ...
(which were not really that good, remember Windows Vista and other fails ? OK, we had White Christmas pretty often, so not so bad either)

Does this comment help with the current v10 disaster ? No, just as little as the post I am referring to. No new wisdom to be found here when digging deeper. Just old philosophers, long dead, but not forgotten.

There is a situation at hand with this v10-release, and sentimental nostalgia will not help us to solve it.

I guess I don't disagree with you too much here.  Just felt like a winge. Being a big user of local notebooks it felt okay to give a bit of finger.   I will delete it though as it solves nothing. 🙂

1 hour ago, CalS said:

Does the note appear on android?  Can you search it on Android now?

It appears but no it's never been searchable on Android. That is what confused my issue from the start I think. It IS searchable if the title is removed.

All  seems good still though. My testing is still showing small notes are searchable after a few minutes. I'll be happy I think if EN keeps performing like this. 

I'm trying to setup more dynamic notes and todo system which is pretty interactive hour by hour so significant delays will make it useless but if it stays under 5 mins or so I think it will be okay for me. I hope finally I get to trust EN again.    It's been a long time!!

yeh it's a note. Here is the export.

Evernotepower of note.enex

edit.... just found I can search it in windows desktop but not on android.

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7 hours ago, CalS said:

Out of interest, what is an internal EN note?

And, if there is a maintenance impact it would be during and right after the maintenance event.  So your firing up EN would most likely have had to occur near one of those.  On a day to day basis I do know I measured a 10 minute lag recently from note entry to note appearing in a web search.  As a Premium subscriber.  Not quick enough in my view.  :shrug:

Its the one titled "the power of the note" and is there when a new account is created. I am unable to search the body text. eg searching for "tracking" does not return this note.

@PinkElephant Yes I think you may be correct that  maintenance had some effect. It makes sense. It was probably made worse that,  one... it was the first time coming back to evernote with some serious work for a while,  and two... the initial testing was done on an internal evernote note that is not returned in searches I guess by design. I think this is why it appeared that EN was not indexing for such a long time when in actuality it was probably more like only a few hours max.  That is still too long even with maintenance but hopefully that was exception rather than the rule. Still worrying though is that report that android was only returning searched on titles. Searching as a core activity with EN so should be flawless IMO and any issue should be dealt with immediately.

I've tested many times now and no problems with new searches since.

Cheers All!

so far so good. over the last hour or so Ive created a fair few one word notes and all have been searchable within a few minutes. So... fingers crossed it's solved! 🙂

Thanks guys

I was aware of the lag for OCR and that premium had priority but didn't think there was lag for standard text.  I just tried again with the new basic account and 

5 minutes ago, gazumped said:

Yup - same experience as above happening here:  are your notes images / PDFs / handwriting / Text?  There are different processes for each,  plus as noted your new notes have to sync to the server and then get back to the phone before they can even be added.

I'm testing with text only.

Actually just a moment ago  a batch of notes got searchable even ones with only a few minutes life.

However now its back to the same. I create a note with one word, search it and it comes back as no note found. I also created a one word note same as one from the batch that came good and it only displayed the note from that batch not both.

It does look like maybe there is very low prioritisation for non-premium accounts. many hours is a bit much though if that is the case....especially when plus is STILL paid.

I'll see how it goes over the next few days.

cheers 

1 minute ago, gazumped said:

? I just searched my Android for the word 'ingredients' and got hits on several cook books,  so I'd say they're indexed fine.  As a subscriber you're still able to request email support - sounds like you should maybe try that?

did you just make the new note? I can find old notes just not new in the last 24 hrs

2 minutes ago, gazumped said:

I think you can assume that apart from a few masochists that have moved on from Evernote,  and are mainly hanging around to see if anything new and interesting happens,  everyone here is still an Evernote user.  In several cases,  from the posts they've made,  people have tried other services;  but they have sooner or later come back to Evernote because it is - despite a few obvious flaws - the most effective solution.  This is entirely the wrong place to look for endorsements of the Acme Note-Taking App,  because we're mostly here to talk about Evernote.

Now any internet search is going to give you a lengthy list of possible options,  and the best way to find out if any of them suit your needs is probably to start using one.  If that doesn't work,  for you try another;  but your solution is likely going to be different from anyone else's.  

IME the only guaranteed,  fail safe,  infinitely reliable note-taking device is a paper notebook!

yeh I get it. I'm venting too I guess ....because I have looked in the past and stuck with EN.  But it NEVER worked properly. For years I couldnt get it to work on windows to the point where I moved all my notes and started again (and that was very very difficult with no help from support either - and they never solved the windows issue where it would just hang for minutes on end (on any PC I had.)

But the end of the day what is the point in saving a note if I can't get it back. Surely this is CORE stuff. I never had issue with this particular problem even 10 years ago. Even windows search is better at finding stuff than evernote.

I am so incredibly hacked off right now!

btw... is this non-indexing/searching of notes body a known issue currently (temp or permanent)? I did see something about only titles being searchable on android now.  I would normally check this out with support but I lost chat when I moved to plus.

I heard some blogger talking about apple notes. Does anyone know if this is any good? I dont do apple but may be convinced to carry an iphone if it works. I never heard of apple notes before though.

1 minute ago, DTLow said:

imho  Evernote is the best service for information storage and retrieval

Thanks DTLow but I honestly don't know how you can say that. I think you have far better experience than I.  Evernote doesn't even retrieve text notes that I have added over the last few days.

Finally after a 6 month job I reduced my notes and started again with a smaller set but even this hasn't helped. 

It's totally unacceptable to not even index notes now.  Not sure if it's because I've moved from premium to plus but I got sick of paying premium for years and years still not being able to use it.  In the 10 years I've had it Evernote has been fantastic to save notes and totally cr*p to retrieve them.  This last issue with not even indexing bog standard text is the last straw.   I honestly don't know how they can keep going with such a pathetic offering and I'm totally sick of putting endless hours in to keep it alive on my end.

Hi,

I urgently need to find some good software or service for note taking and information storage and retrieval.

I would like to make notes using android and windows text apps and take photos of handwritten notes. These notes must be easily and reliably retrieved via good search syntax. Syncing is also important.  Ideally I would also like check boxes and tables.

The most important aspect to the software is that it must work and be reliable.  I do know of one service that is marketed as doing this type of stuff but it is very much a waste of time, has pathetic service is too expensive for a faulty product and always fails when it is needed the most.

I really really need a good working solution - Does anyone have a great solution please.   ..... and honestly I am not pulling anyone's leg. It is a REAL and serious request. 

cheers

7 hours ago, jefito said:

That's what I recall as well.

Generally speaking, exporting to Evernote format (.enex) should probably be on a notebook-by-notebook basis, as notebook is not preserved in the .enex format.

Thanks.   10+ years on and the elephant is a dinosaur. How sad ...but I'm finally giving up. It just never really got there. Always had amazing promise but lost it's way somewhere.  BooHoo (really!)

17 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Evernote/Windows has no support for "offline" notebooks   
Are all your notes stored in "local" notebooks?

If local notebooks, no import is required - just move the notes to sync'd notebooks   

yep that worked - thanks. Personal crisis avoided lol!

16 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

EN is basically a cloud-based Service. Local Notebooks are there as an exception, maybe for some privacy stuff, but not to run a high performance show on them. DTLow just explained how to get them back into the loop, but this will probably not solve your underlying issue.

If you were on a Mac, I would propose Devon Think to you. It is made to run on a local database, with full search, AI functions and all. But as I say, it is Mac-only, with mobile clients (then using cloud services for the sync, but still not storing stuff in the cloud).

Thanks, you're right it wont solve the issue but it will allow me to keep notes (9 years of paying premium) in a searchable basic account. 

Just now, DTLow said:

Evernote/Windows has no support for "offline" notebooks   
Are all your notes stored in "local" notebooks?

If local notebooks, no import is required - just move the notes to sync'd notebooks

my bad yes local. This will help if I can do that ass most (not all) my notes are currently in the local notebooks. I'll try that now thnks

38 minutes ago, DTLow said:

Can you explain your "export" process

sure.

I exported all individual notebooks in html and enex. then created offline notebooks for each and them moved all notes into the corresponding offline notebooks. so basically no online notes left.

TBH EN support have been no use during this whole process. Simply they could have just let me create a new account and make it plus then I could have made my current premium account basic at the end of the month (annual renewal time). Instead they just kept telling me plus was no longer available.  After 9 yearrs I think I'm done. Windows desktop spend most of it's time waiting...has done for the last 3 or 4 years and I've never uploaded more than 1GB in a month anyway.  Recently I've been just running web and android but there were things I couldnt do without desktop.  So  I thought I'd get a new clean install and start again with mountable local notes only to find they are not mountable and will still impact the desktop useability. 

I'm toying with the idea of doing this  myself with a descktop database then at least it will be within my control.   I dont see a future for EN any more they are just too slow to adapt/fix/innovate.   Just can't believe I put up with it for so long.

Hmmm sorry for the gripe....wasn't intending that.....I guess I'm just a bit dpressed about it all 😞

actually what about history....could I roll ALL the notes back to before I moved them to local?

So after exporting all 15000 (22gb) of notes to local notebooks only to find it's not what I expected, how do I get them back? do I have to buy extra premium or do I have to wait and do it over 3 months? cheers

yeh after creating several offline notebook that's what I am finding.  Wasted many hours on this now! Grrrr! 😉

Thanks for confirming my suspicions. 

I want to have portable offline notes on a usb stick then mount them when necessary. Can this be done?

Hi, when I exported my notebook it split into several enex files.  When I come to import, do I need to import all the files seperately or does it know to pickup all of the split files without user intervention? thnx

it looks like this for me.  other templates like weekly seem fine