rob24hrs

Agreed - but there is a hell of an opportunity for someone to build `EN2020........and make a killing. From a commercial/marketing point of view EN miss the boat on a regular basis- how many times have you looked at some new software and thought "yes but evernote can do that" trouble is many are not aware of the potential of EN.

Ok maybe time for arm waving not finger pointing- my expectation would be basic options like merging notes that are available on some platforms be available on others- if complexity is an issue just make it work on web version then at least ALL users could use it. Then start listening to paying customers - It seems to be a case of EN THINK they know what you want as opposed to EN are LISTING to what you NEED. I don't accept the argument re ageing software....if you cannot innovate and update then you will loose customers and then it is bye bye business. It is apparent many are looking for a viable Evernote alternative- when one appears ( and it will) the stakes will be raised and many will re consider their use of EN if EN team do not listen to current long term users.

and your point is?

I've been a Evernote user for 8 years now. I must have looked at EVERY alternative ( Notion, Onenote, Dropbox, Apple Notes,Joplin,Bear) for use on apple devices and web and have stuck with Evernote. Why? Because they now have history and almost any app will interact with it. It synchs instantaneously with all of my devices unlike Apple notes which is flakey and unreliable. Given the cost I don't mind shelling out. The Evernote team do, like many, have a habit of developing what they THINK people want as opposed to what people want but many are like that- customer service seems to be well down the list of priorities. I think rather than developing fancy new web interfaces they should strive to have the app capable of doing the SAME THINGS across all devices . For example I often gather together information for various projects and then Merge them into one document ......you cant do that on iOS/Web you can on Mac app. It is like trying to use three different versions of the same system. Also some nice to haves..... 1. When will we ever be able to sort contents of Notebooks individually say for example alphabetically rather then having to sort whole data base? I has been asked for many times and requests been ignored. 2. When will we be able, if ever, to sort the contents of a notebook manually? Say for example you are writing a report and have 20 notes in a note book as chapters? I know all the theories about using tags etc but have people actually done that?- again asked for many times. If Evernote wants to survive the next decade maybe they should mail shot everyone who has been using system consistently as a PAYING customer and ask them what they want what they think is missing? Then ACT on the requests /suggestions? Bottom line is Evernote has worked for ten years - yes the system is not consistent across various devices but it is the best compromise available IMHO. Unless something better comes along I will stay with it- and I haven't found anything better so far. not .......and before some self appointed forum "Guru" starts jumping up and down telling me I should be asking for options not available- do us all a favour and save your breath. As a paying customer I consider I have the right to comment on current system and request improvements.

Guess this is never going to happen. Anyone found a viable alternative?

No it hasn't - it is not available on Mac or IOS or Web. Please check your facts before suggesting threads be closed.

Yes I am aware of that hence the request...which has been request many times it would appear. I use Evernote web, Mac OS and iOS.

It seems that many have requested this feature for some time. Maybe a separate issue but manual sorting would be really useful notebook by notebook. If one uses Evernote for research, perhaps with a view to writing a book or preparing a presentation then the ability to manually sort a sequence of notes within a specific notebook would be awesome. I have read up about this and am aware of the work rounds but it would be really useful to many. For those, paying perhaps it could be a pro feature?

Thanks for marketing 101- "noted" for several years does not bode well. It is perhaps significant that other developers actually listen too their customers- the rest slowly inevitably loose them.

Exactly- so why not within a notebook? And why has the request been ignored for years- and obviously irritates some?

It is known as marketing......given the re structuring within Evernote they may not wish to make them redundant but I bet they would love it if the subscriptions currently flowing to Ulysses came to them......😈 Irrespective of the marketing implications, some of us who have used EN since almost day one have been asking for years for manual sorting within a note book to be an option- can't be that difficult to implement.

1.I am surprised Evernote Marketing have not figured out that if they allowed manual sorting within a note book i.e dragging they would basically make Ulysses redundant same with Scrivener for anyone doing long form writing. i.e if I have scenes in a novel within Ulysses I can just drag them around to the sequence I want- within Evernote this is not possible if it was many writers would use Evernote exclusively-. I guess Evernote are happy to leave a lot of money on the table...... 2. When if ever will the merge facility be available for Evernote iPhone/ipad? Apple are pushing the iPad Pro as a Laptop replacement but Evernote on iPad can not perform the functions that Evernote Mac can.

I wonder if Evernote realise how much potential business they are loosing out by not having this feature. Take a look a Scrivener and Ulysses app. If I could manually sort notes (i.e Scenes) within a notebook ( aka a manuscript) I would not need to use the two apps mentioned. Silly tagging and naming systems will not work. If I write a scene or part scene I need to drag it to a location within a list of other scenes.

I am not sure how this request can be officially submitted to Evernote. If you are writing any form of Longford text using Evernote it is essential. Until it is available on IOS the iPad will not become a computer replacement. People have bee requesting it for a long time now. Does anyone actually listen to paying customers?

Does it matter if you are "aware"? If you want EN to be truly "usable" across all devices then basic functions like merge and note book to pdf should be available ...before spending time on "handwriting recognition" etc. Get the basics right first. There was an application available in the App Store called merge ever or move ever that did the trick but it seems to have gone.