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  1. I use Evernote a lot. But for any sensitive information, I store it in local notebooks. I would never trust Evernote with it given the technology deployed currently. Between hackers, the government, and court orders, I'd say Evernote can't win, although they may do a great job fighting off the hordes. After personal data is leaked (by whatever means), its too late for an apology, etc. However there are times when I am not where my PC with the local notebooks is located. And I wish I had access. Given the relative insecurity of Evernote, Dropbox, OneDrive, etc. I've been considering two options: an account with a service like SpiderOak, I would still keep my local notebooks in Evernote, but have them regularly backed up to SpiderOak. Then if I needed when traveling, I'd have Spideroak access on my mobile PC, along with the encryption key, and could download and view Evernote on my mobile PC. Try to use Boxcryptor and move my Local Notebook directory onto an encrypted folder on that device. Boxcryptor would be linked to my Dropbox. Has anyone either tried either of these or have any feedback on the ideas? Thanks in advance!
  2. There are a few important points in this discussion I believe: 1) I don't think anyone really cares (at least at the user level) what the underlying architecture is -- what we care about are the facilities provided to the user. Having spent some time as an application deeloper in years past, I know that most people never cared about the underlying database we used in a given app, unless it limited capabilities or performance. 2) The ask here I believe is for more user-level information organization facilities to be provided in the GUI -- not one specific style, but just more facilities that I as the user can bring to bear on my information organization needs. I find people are very good at organizing if you provide the facilities to do so. 3) Think of EN as a datastore, with the GUI providing facilities to enable information organization. Not everyone organizes the same way, nor does everyone have the same amount of information to organize. Here are some examples (with specifics tied to my railroad example to make them real) -- note that I've couched them in EN-type descriptions, but that may not be the best way to present them in a GUI -- I am not an interface designer. 1) Tags at the sub-note level -- examples: - in any given note I may need to link a sentence or paragraph or image or ??? to a given data source - for a given image (imagine a picture with a locomotive stopped at a station with two RR employees standing next to the loco), I might want to link that image specifically to the info about: the specific locotmotive, the station, the year, each RR employee, a specific signal, and logo (loco has a unique logo for that RR) -- just a simple example - In any given note I may want to annotate a given item (think footnote or comment for a cell in Excel), without doing it inline 2) Tags, Nested tags, dynamic tags, restricted tags -- in my railroad example, I did a quick back of the napkin calculation to figure how how many tags I would need for one particular railroad -- I'd estimate 10,000-15,000 (think one tag for every locomotive, freight car, passenger car, caboose, and other piecce of equipment, plus everything else about a railroad. Now imagine trying to use these (and manage them) in a drop down list (how much of your life would you spend scrolling or typing?). Now go to the next railroad -- since most of their phsyical items are unique (not the same cars, loco, etc. as RR #1, I need another 10K-15K tags. Remember any two railroads might both have a car number 11001, but that is two separate and distinct cars, so you cannot use the same tag for both, unless we start applying multiple tags and managing that way (which can be done, but is not fast for the user). How does the user ensure they don't incorrectly use the wrong tag(s) on an item? This is a good example where a powerful GUI can assist the user, instead of just technically enabling. Now go to a large railroad -- my railroads above were mid-sized. For a large one, I might need 20,000-50,000 tags. I think you get the picture... 3) A lot of these information organization facilities are about codifying the organization - while tags are fixed text, note titles are freeform text, and it's easy to make typos in note titles or tags even. So sometimes these organization facilities help the user ensure the correct identifications are applied. With some investment in bringing more information organization management facilities to the GUI, EN could become the premier tool for researchers and heavy duty information managers.
  3. Thanks -- Like I said in my first reply, for me personally (and I am just one user), it is not about whether or not Evernote can technically do something. (I believe we can all agree I could do this in Excel as well, but it would be more painful.) It's whether the GUI provided by EN makes it easy to do this. In my case, for now, all my research is staying in OneNote until such time as EN (or I suppose some 3rd party providing a layered app on EN) provide a more helpful GUI for this need. I'm just trying to point out to EN that there are some things they could do in the GUI to increase the penetration of the tool.
  4. Just to make one correction to my explanation. I went back and looked at my OneNote structure. OneNote actually has 5 levels of structures available -- I had not mentioned "section groups". notebooks, section groups, sections, pages, and tags And I use this structure: Notebook -- Railroad name Section group -- major aspects: History, Rolling Stock, Maint of Way, Structures, Track & Signals, References, etc. Sections: (e.g. for Rolling Stock) Locomotives-Diesel, Locomotives-Steam, Passenger Cars, Cabooses, MoW, Tank Cars) Pages: (e.g., Locomotives-Diesel) -- one page for each Diesel locomotive by type and loco number Tags -- as required/needed -- is this example with locomotives
  5. First let me say that I am en Evernote Premium customer and I use Evernote almost daily. I use it for what I call casual noting, as well as maintaining reference info and as part of my GTD system. For those activities it works great. But I also do some deep historical research on railroads, and that research has to be very organized down to the detail level. While I appreciate that Evernote is powerful, and you can do a lot with it, that does not make it optimized for all purposes. It has a very limited GUI that IMHO does NOT ASSIST a detail oriented researcher. (Yes I know tags are powerful, but so are Excel Spreadsheets and databases, and I would not want them as my GUI for my research either :-) As a result I use OneNote for all my research. It is by no means perfect either, but through it's GUI it does more to assist me in my research, instead of leaving all the grunt work to me. Through its GUI it allows me to have - one notebook per railroad - Sections within notebooks - pages within sections And the GUI facilitates this organization. (Plus tags and links like in Evernote) I would love to move to Evernote, but Evernote must do more in their GUI to ASSIST me as a researcher before I would consider that. Simply saying there is a programming language and I can do what I want is not helpful, even though it may be powerful. Unless I have missed it, Evernote has 4 facilities -- groups of notebooks, notebooks, notes and tags. In OneNote there are also 4 -- notebooks, sections, pages, and tags. (Both have links.) I have heard the suggestion to use EN groups of notebooks like I would use ON notebooks, and EN notebooks like I would use Sections. And EN Notes like Pages. But the GUI in EN is more painful if I do this , whereas in ON all four are presented right in the same window. Honestly for me at least groups of notebooks when each notebook is opened separately is not an enabler for my research. Here's an example of just one aspect of my research - for each railroad on which I do research, I have research on every locomotive, every freight car and every station/depot, plus many other similar sections. As you can imagine even on smaller railroads, there are likely hundreds of locomotives (when keeping track over 200+ years), thousands of freight cars, and 10s-100s-1000s of stations. For each of those I would/could have history text, scanned images, PDFs, images, perhaps Excel spreadsheets, floor plan drawings (some in CAD files), voice recordings, etc. I could not even imagine do this in EN as it would be too painful (in terms of the GUI -- not that EN could nto handle it). So in addition to a tool that can technically handle the details, you need a GUI that enables researchers to have fast and intuitive access to their data to make entries, find info, etc. In this regard I simply find the EN GUI is not very helpful. In OneNote I have a notebook for each railroad. Then I have sections for each of the major categories: Locomotives, Cabooses, Tank Cars, Freight Stations, Passenger Stations, Combination Stations, and many other sections. And then I have one page for each loco within the locos section, one page for each tank car in the tank cars section, etc. And graphically the ON interface helps me move through all the data very fast. I think that EN has most if not all of the underlying functionality. What it needs to offer a layer on top of core EN aimed at researchers. (If I were designing this I do it a layer of abstraction so that I could easily deliver research layers targeted at specific research areas (regardless of the research area of interest -- e.g., railroads (in my case), genealogy, or any other interest area. This way I could deliver research-area specific layers using terminology appropriate to those researchers.) Just my 2 cents as one researcher. Regards
  6. Love my Jotscript. Can we please have quadrille paper in Penultimate? Thanks!
  7. Can we please have landscape paper in Penultimate? The control icons nicely move to the left side when the iPad is in landscape orinetation. But the paper (remains) is ruled vertically. Thanks
  8. BTW -- in reference to my original posting, my primary use of EverNote is on Windows 7, iPad and Nexus 7, with occasional view from a Android phone.
  9. I currently use Evernote (as a Premium member) for most of my cross platform note needs. Currently there is still one area where I have not yet migrated off of Microsoft OneNote. I'm looking for suggestions on how to best handle this migration, as I would like to complete the migration off of OneNote. It has to do with Research topics. Currently I do Research on a number of areas. This research material could be used for future white papers, articles, books, etc. Research includes anythings from short notes, to included items from other sources like scanned images, PDFs,, photos, etc. I'll pick on one research area and describe my current approach with OneNote. I'm currently researching Locomotives, Freight cars, and passenger cars owned the Bangor & Aroostook Railroad. The railroad owned close to a hundred locomotives in its history, plus hundreds of freight cars and numerous passenger cars. So I have one notebook each for Locomotives, Freight Cars, and Passenger Cars. Then within each notebook -- let's take Locomotives as an example -- I have separate tabs for each locomotive. Then as I either find and want to add notes, or want to reference my collected notes, I simply flip to the tab for that specific locomotive, And either add my additional notes, or view the notes/research I've already collected. Now the question -- what's best way to organize this in the EverNote environment? Just thinking about creating a notebook for Locomotives and then one note per locomotive? That's going to be a lot of notes to start appearing the navigation views... Is that the best model? Just thinking about navigating through numerous notes in a given notebook. Or is there a better method? Thanks in advance!
  10. PLEASE add basic tables to all Evernote implementations. I want to keep the basics of an order form for all of my suppliers on Evernote, so that as I see a need for something I can go to the note for that supplier, add to the table of items for the next order, and then go back to what I was doing. Or keep simple inventories on line. Nothing fancy required -- User defined # of rows & columns, and ability to add more of each as needed. And ability to adjust column widths. Embedded spreadhseets are overkill. Thanks!
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