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  1. 1 hour ago, MvdH said:

    Good luck in your transition. 🙌👊👍 Good that it feels like a right move, though you feel forced. I'm sticking with Evernote with my 15.000 note and 500 changes each day, all day long. I hope it improves, though Evernote already went from unusable for the first v10 versions, and now "bearable enough". It still is the best fit for my use., though I miss a few features and snappyness. Farewell. 

    I have ~60Gb evernote db (account info says I've premium subscription since 2009).
    Most of it transferrable via ENEX export/import, some stuff to be converted to markdown (and that's for better).

    v10 is not 'bearable enough' for me. Don't want to spent my energy trying to plead to fix bugs and implement missing features (which had to be done years ago).

    I'd rather spend my energy to make Obsidian perfect for me. And spend evernote-subscription money on new SSD :)

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  2. Funny enough, but all this mess with retiring 'legacy' version has finally forced me to look at Obsidian seriously, which I did this weekend.

    Obsidian is quite different from EN, but it's much MUCH better suited for my needs.
    Some people don't like markdown formatting, but for me it's the best (I love writing tech docs in Typora).
    Whole Obsidian UI/experience is highly customizable (and since I'm a devloper, I can  add/tweak pretty much anything I want/need).
    And I don't even need paid cloud-shmoud to sync my data across devices -- I already have server with Resilio Sync running for other purposes (yes, that works only for win/mac, but I don't need mobile version, to be honest).

    So, tomorrow is "abandon ship!" day.
    EN v10 is definitely not worth 100+ bucks a year and endless struggling simplest things.
    I don't even care about money that left for ~6 months of premium subscription.

  3. On 3/19/2024 at 4:42 PM, kkarney said:

    You just have to get used to the app being much slower and more buggy. And as for those features that were dropped for v10, forget about it.

    Yeah, and pay MORE money for buggy mess instead of working software - great business plan :)

    I'll try to push some issues via tickets while my premium subscription lasts, then just move on to Joplin.
    v10 is slow, buggy, unreliable mess, considering it's in development for years -- they still somehow failed to replicate basic fuctionality of original Evernote. Insteal, lots of (slow and buggy) bells and whistles were added. Damn, you can't even customize note-editing toolbar (to remove unneeded cr@p and add buttons you actully need all the time) -- MS Office allowed that 20 YEARS AGO.

    I remember the same ***** happened to Skype -- MS forced "new" app and "suddenly" everyone and his dog stopped using Skype. (because it was slow, buggy unreliable mess based on some fancy web-stuff, uniformly ugly on all platforms)

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  4. 19 hours ago, MvdH said:

    Or at least a % or amount of notes to still sync. They have that info, evernote-backup shows it too...

    And another observation about sync :
    when I open note with PDF attachment, EN doesn't even try to download that PDF until I scroll down (when it's visible).

    That delayed, sync-on-demand is just maddening...

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  5. 10 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

    https://www.evernote.com/SupportLogin.action. You have to drill down a bit through menus to get to where you can actually create a ticket. You'll get a robo-response at first, telling you to do things you've already done or that aren't relevant. Reply that you've done them (I leave whether really have done them to your conscience 🙂), and eventually you will get some real response. Which may or may not result in prompt action.

    OK I have to try at least :)

  6. 23 minutes ago, Mike P said:

    You've posted this in the Androd forum but it looks more desktop to me, although I could of course be wrong.

    The way to do this, which works and is quicker, is to drag the attachment directly into the note list. If you want it in a particular notebook select that notebook first. If you have "Notes" selected it will go into your default notebook. The new note is created automatically (saving you that step) with the title of the note as the title of the file.

    Yes, I've mis-clicked topic - it's about Windows client.

    Dragging file on notebook (note list) seems working. Newly created note is not selected though.

  7. 30 minutes ago, MvdH said:

    That explains a lot. What is the ticketnumber, if you don't mind? Thx in advance! After notes not working, I looked at the local DB size and it was 4GB~ while the evernote-backups GIT produces around 23GB.

    That's strange -- my v10 local cache is roughly the same size as evernote-backup db (~60Gb).

    Looks like v10 doesn't download/cache notes for some reason. And this is why we need explicit "Sync" / "Make Available All Offline" button.

  8. OK, after weeks of experimentation with v10 :

    EN v10 randomly fails to export notebooks. Maybe it's because of interoperation with 'legacy' client. Anyway, it feels weird and unreliable.

    The only way to make sure all notes are accessible offline is to use evernote-backup to sync/backup data regularly. I'm not even sure if the note are guaranteed to be accessible offline on my machine after it's clicked in client on that machine (it could be purged from 'local cache' for whatever reason AFAIK).

    Currently, I feel that it would be easier to do 'alternative' Evernote client (via official API) than trying to (ask BS to) fix v10...

  9. What UX 'genius' thinks this is a good idea ?..

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    First, 'new enhanced EN' removes note/notebook shortcuts from top panel.
    Then, it forces me to use :
    a) 
    popup menu - point mouse to star icon, wait until menu appears, find shortcut, click it
    b) home-screen - click to activate home screen then scroll tiny window with shortcuts, select the one you need, click it).
    Either way it takes more time & more clicks.

    Citing certain movie character, I've rhetorical question for dev team : "Are you nuts?!."

     

  10. 7 hours ago, JerryN said:

    yep - exactly.

    I'm going to be looking for something that indexes, previews, highlights search terms and provides result relativity. I do need it to keep my files local. 

    Thanks.

     

     

    You are probably talking about 'local notebooks' -- notebooks that are keeped on one machine and never synced to 'the cloud'. This feature was silently removed from EN quite some time ago.

    On PDFs. PDF is an attachment (and always were). By default, it's displayed as full document in Classic Evernote, and you have option 'view as attachment' if you don't want to see whole document (the same goes for any attachment, images fox exmaple). v10 has similar option -- 'view as title' (via right-click context menu for PDF); surprisingly, there's even more options for PDF in v10 - 'single page' and 'all pages'. Search by PDF contents seems to be working in v10 (whole searching experience in v10 is not so good though).

    Regarding alternative, I can suggest (at least have a look at) Joplin. If 'local notebook' is crusial feature - this may be a right app for you.

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  11. 51 minutes ago, thefryhole said:

    This behavior isn't exactly the same but it is somewhat similar to what I've experienced with mobile offline access since summer 2023 (I don't often use desktop offline so no idea of the status there). Some experimenting shows that notes work offline on mobile ONLY IF they have already been opened since the conversion on either desktop or mobile and marked for offline access AFTER that happens. Most people have a batch of notes they reference over and over. In that scenario, those notes have been accessed at some point, even if only briefly, in recent months. If those are the only notes you access, then mobile offline appears to work just fine.

    Except it doesn't.

    Trying to access a note that has not yet been opened post-conversion returns a "note unavailable" error, despite it showing as downloaded and waiting weeks or months for the download to complete. Basically, it appears that you now need to open every single note that you want available offline and open it while still connected to the internet. Marking an entire folder for offline access doesn't work. Marking individual notes doesn't work. And this isn't just for new notes or just for old notes. It's EVERY NOTE, regardless of age, that hasn't yet been opened in the post-conversion environment.

    I realize this isn't identical to the desktop issues but I wonder if they're related and fixing one might fix the other.

    I'd guess notes are missing under-the-hood 'dirty' flag, i.e. flag telling app "you must download this" or add this notes to download queue (and then we need and explicit way to force download everything). Classic Evernote has this, but new one insists that everything automagically synced (not really) and refuses to give me (the user, who pays money for software/service) ability to do what I need.

    This maybe an attempt to save some traffic, or just simple f***up on the client development side, Either way it's kinda maddening...

  12. 2 hours ago, BrooklynBen said:

    Good to know. I just came to report this. I'm in my last two weeks of intense dissertation work with a hard deadline to graduate, and so have been using Freedom to shut down all internet access. Only to find out that doing such renders a lot of my Evernote dissertation files inaccessible, because they haven't downloaded. This is central, key functionality!!!

    That's exactly why I always insisted on explicit 'sync' button – a way to make sure everything is available from your machine.

    So, BS should stop pretending EN can automagically sync everything in background, because it can not (lots of issues on the forum illustrate this).
    There must be a big green 'Make everything available offline' button. 

    Yet again,  evernote-backup tool is somehow able to download everything locally and export all notes/notebooks using the same EN API, but EN client constantly having troubles doing that.

     

     

  13. 14 hours ago, mackid1993 said:

    So notes aren't converted to the new format until they are opened once. I'm wondering if with a large notebook, the export also converts the notes which is causing it to stop responding and crash.

    Yes, that's probably it - notes are probably converted only when opened (or at least shown in list, and added to download queue).
    Alas, there's no way to select all notes and do 'force convert everything now'.

    If that so, all my notes are converted by now. Will do some more experiments with offline access on my work PC/mac next week...

  14. 6 hours ago, mackid1993 said:

    I'm not referring to the servers I'm wondering if waiting for the servers to convert each note is causing the export to get really slow and perhaps causing the client to hang.

    I only have a few hundred notes in total but I wonder if someone who's been using v10 for a while and has a few thousand notes wants to test, I'd assume it would be more stable. I think a lot of the issues people are experiencing are from this conversion. 

    I don't think the problem is in servers.

    Yesterday, I tried to backup entire EN v10 data using  evernote-backup tool. The 'sync' phase (which basically pulls everything from the server) did pretty well -- there was only 3 errors / retries (I consider that acceptable for 60Gb database). And 'export' phase was completed without single error (all notes of all notebooks of that 60Gb database exported to ENEX files).

    So, syncing/exporting notes via API works pretty well. The problem is in the EN v10 client itself.

     

     

     

  15. 13 hours ago, Dave Green said:

    Do you find any relationship between notes being local and having made an ENEX of the containing notebook on the desktop where you want the notes to be local?

    What do you mean by 'local' note? I don't have any local notebooks (all notebooks ae synced across all devices).

    Looks like exporting notebook several times forces EN to cache all notes from notebook locally - first export fails at 13%, second export fails at 20% and so on until whole notebook successfully exported. After that BTW all notes (from successfully exported notebook) are available offline.
    So, in theory, if I can force export ALL notes (which can't be done in v10, not via UI at least) - this will force to cache everything locally, IF cached notes are never deleted (which I can't really check).

    Also, I've tried to backup whole database with evernote-backup tool (on Classic Evernote installation). It worked much more reliably - failed couple of times during 'sync' phase, but all notebooks were successfully exported in one go. Will try to do it with v10 at my work desktop PC today.

  16. 1 hour ago, Jon/t said:

    I use it offline quite a bit when travelling and its always worked. I've always managed to find the notes I want.

    I've not run any tests as I just 'use it' so in real life on trains and in cheap dodgy hotels it works as expected.

    I guess it 'just works' - until you suddenly need a 5-year old note from 60Gb database. And you always need it exactly that very hour when there's no internet connection :)

    Strangely enough, mobile version still has 'all notebooks available offline' option.

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  17. So, Classic Evernote (I refuse to call it 'legacy', it's an insult to a good software) will stop working in several weeks, and I'm trying to determine if this new Evernote is actually usable (because first releases of v10 felt like something hastily hacked together by some inexperienced hipsters).

    Experiment 1 - offline access to notes.
    I've waited several days for EN to download all the data, its 'cache' folder is approximately the same size as data-folder of Classic Evernote. So, all the notes should be available without internet connection, right? Wrong! And it's not just oldest notes not available offline, it's kinda random.

    Experiment 2 - exporting to ENEX.
    It works, kinda. It took 9 attempts and 2+ hours to export first notebook. The same notebook exported from Classic Evernote in 10 minutes, on first attempt.
    Exporting failes often if notebook has at least 200 notes and/or more than 1Gb of data. It seems that EN has troubles with very old notes (5+ year old).

    Bottom line : v10 is still unreliable.
    Maybe it'll change to better in near future (I still have several months of Premium subscription left), but I don't hold my breath. New dev team seems to be more interested in fancy bells-and-whistles stuff than in making basic funtionality robust (or implementing missing features / fixing old bugs).

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