BummedJim

Thanks. The one I installed from my backups just now was 7.14.1, same as for the official link that Mr Growf kindly posted on 6/9. At least on a Mac all i needed to do was put that trashy one in the trash, then drag the actual .app file back into Applications. Grabbing both the Mac and Windows installer files from the EN site now. I'd suggest other Legacy users do the same asap.

Sorry to have misread your note s2sailor. I'd forgotten file hippo is an alternate downloads site not a notebook app. I don't see the legacy installer there though. Maybe I'm overlooking it.

Thank you Mr. Growf for those links in your 6/19 post! I'm downloading copies of legacy installer to at least 5 places right now, 'cause who know what they might do next.

I use so many special features in Evernote that file hippo and other suggestions that people kindly offered in a thread here simply won't work for my set of thousands of notes over the past decade that I search back through every single day. I did at least move my private notebooks over to Apple Notes. But why in god's name did they sneak this one in as a Legacy update?

Whew. Score one for Carbon Copy Cloner. I was indeed able to find a REAL Evernote installer in an old backup, from back in Sep 2020. Not just lack of private folders that sucks in this one. Try dragging notes from the left sidebar into a new note. Try doing a search from that convenient place at top right. Try dragging an image from one bullet point to another in a note. From my cold dead whatever. Still can't believe they tricked all us old-timers to move over. "Legacy" my ass.

Anybody got a REAL Legacy installer lying around? Can't find one in my downloads folder and getting kind of desperate here. Straight up arrogant of these clowns.

Damn. Just happened to me during a very important project last night. Screwed up my work to no end. New intferface is straight up shite, too.! How can I get the real Legacy back? Why shouldn't I cancel the subscription I've held for a decade, RIGHT NOW?

Thanks PinkElephant. I'm also seeing that it's evidently a one-way trip from Evernote to Apple Notes, other than some rather hackish AppleScript. Apple Notes has nothing like the .enex format to bring entire notebooks, or folders, back into Evernote -- walled garden territory. Beyond that I can find nothing but note-by-note PDF transfer, not at all what I need unfortunately. So I'll keep working the heck out of Legacy as long as I can. That aside, starting now and likely long term I'll be moving my EN notebooks with highly personal information over to Notes, while keeping my workhorse notebooks that need best organization on Evernote. Different purposes, different tools -- the best of all possible worlds I guess. Thanks everyone for helping me think this through.

Thanks for the additional info, PinkElephant. It will be useful not just for me but for others reading this thread now or later. There's no HIPAA data in our own situation, but our classroom education research with children does fall under U.S. FERPA and other data protection laws. Industry-standard AES-256 encryption, as offered by Evernote and any legit cloud storage provider, is plenty good for that purpose, legally speaking, so long as the data's been rendered unidentifiable. In our own case, university policy and best practices require that anything with identifiable research data needs to stay off the web altogether. That kind of data gets stored only on a university-protected smb server that can only be mounted using their own vpn and login credentials. Any other kind of data release would be inadvertent on my part and quickly rectified, but still Evernote's having done away with private folders is a real drawback that has me scrambling for alternatives beyond what EN can offer. So while I understand that I could put some of my employer's rather sensitive data, as well as my own personal data, in the cloud, it's still frustrating that EN and its competitors in the notes-management space now deem that we must. It's a loss. Now that I've started digging into it, MacOS's Apple Notes app does look fairly close to what I need for personal notes that can stay only on my own Macbook, without needing to upload to their iCloud. If only it would let me copy and use note links from one note to another as EN does. For what it may be worth, I did read last night that the just-announced (June 2023) developer beta for Mac's upcoming OS Sonoma is finally putting something like that capability into Notes, but an unsupported beta's a little too edgy for me. At any rate I do also feel uncomfortable putting the various kinds of personal data in my subject line onto EN's servers, or anywhere else in the cloud. I can't imagine I'm the only Evernote user who feels this way; it's a shame that neither EN nor any other vendor makes this possible anymore. Just last night I uploaded some of my EN notebooks from Legacy, with several thousand notes apiece, to Apple Notes using Evernote's .enex format. That's quick and seamless, and the Notes interface is quite similar to EN's. For anyone else on a Mac who feels like Apple Notes might fit some of their needs for offline notes management, this article from December 2022 describes the capability: https://appletoolbox.com/how-to-store-apple-notes-locally/ . And this article from June 2023 describes the extent to which Notes should improve under Sonoma, when that ships around October -- https://appleinsider.com/inside/macos-sonoma/tips/how-to-link-two-or-more-apple-notes-in-macos-sonoma . That's still not the kind of note-to-note connecting that Evernote's offered since forever, though. YMMV. I wouldn't give up Evernote myself for less sensitive uses -- EN has for years let me think with my fingertips, to the tune of half a dozen notes a day, and always with the ability to make connections across my notes past, present and future. I'm searching several times a day across my notes space for things I figured out how to do years ago and promptly put aside, and using those as a jumping-off point for solving new problems. This in turn lets me add those new notes' links into the old notes, keeping the wheels turning. I'm relieved at least to see that Apple continues to recognize the need for truly local notes management of this complexity and remains committed to supporting it in their limited way. Long live Evernote Legacy, or at least as long as possible.

Meant to mark both PinkElephant's and CalS's replies as winners, but realized after clicking I could just choose one ;-). I do need an easy-to-edit format. I'm forever resurrecting and adding to my evernotes and linking across them, because so much of my work involves tinkering with novel kinds of research data organization. bmcl, your solution does sound right for a good many use cases, but rather awkward and limited for my own.

Ah, I see what you mean, Pink Elephant -- MacOS's own Notes app. I'm on an employer-configured Mac, and I hadn't realized it could both import .enex notebooks and save them local-only. Sounds like my personal notes are going there, and my work notes onto the university-secured OneDrive/Sharepoint system. Jim

Right you are, CalS -- beyond personal needs I'm looking at web-accessible server-side storage no matter what. The difference for me is institutional -- if something went wrong they'd be at least partially blame-able and responsible for the fix. Otherwise they might just say "Ever-what?" Our IT's simply going to trust MS more, since it's their tech and they've locked the whole campus into the borg with enterprise-level service. They've even pushed us off anything google. We're talking student privacy laws, research anonymity, federal project sponsors, etc. -- with much pre-upload protection as we can, but dataset's always in flux. Like in the old days, 'nobody ever got fired for buying IBM' :-(. Jim

Thanks CalS (and again to PinkElephant) for fast and informative replies. Those sound like good leads. More than likely I'll just bite the bullet and switch over to OneNote. My university employer pushed everyone over to OneDrive-Sharepoint a few months back, so I won't feel quite so out on a limb going their way. It remains to be seen whether onenote itself is seamless on mac -- I've had bad experiences already with sharepoint that way. Jim

Thanks again PinkElephant. I am on a mac. What would you suggest for self-hosted? Jim

Thanks Pink Elephant, but no. I've read that /security link dozens of times over the course of months at least. Not gonna cut it for the needs I mentioned, particularly work-related. Again, how can this possibly be a fringe use-case? Best, Jim