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That's also basically how I use Tabs and Favorites. In EN Legacy, I used shortcuts to have access to both frequently accessed notes and current working notes.

No, I'm on Win 10. I didn't mention note tabs (and favorites) which I also like and use extensively, because in EN Legacy the shortcuts performs basically the same function. But Outline and Note Overview add a lot of value that EN Legacy doesn't have.

And speaking of plugins, the two most useful ones for me are Note Overview, which is a more powerful and useful way of doing EN saved searches, and Outline, which is a sidebar with TOC items as links to help you quickly see and navigate a long note. I think the only productive EN Legacy feature that I miss is the ability to share/collaborate on notes. Even though I didn't use it much, it was very useful when I did. So EN Legacy = a fantastic product even for basic subscribers. Joplin = EN Legacy in most ways + it's being improved almost daily. And again, I say that as primarily a note taker.

As primarily a note taker (not archiving all sorts of media, email or attachments), Joplin FTW. I was a happy Evernote Legacy user, but wanted to try something else just in case. After trying Notion, OneNote, Nimbus, Google Keep, Simplenote, I'm very satisfied with Joplin. Close enough to EN Legacy functionality (including web clipper) that it looks and feels quite familiar, plus a host of cool things not found in EN Legacy continually being developed through plugins. And the feature that made me leave EN Legacy: I can install it on all three of my main devices: PC, phone and Kindle Fire. The personable and immediately responsive developers and community are also a big plus.

I've used EN merely for note taking, not for archiving all kinds of attachments and media files. And after trying Notion, Nimbus, Simplenote, OneNote, and Google Keep, I'm quite happy with the switch to Joplin. Importing all my EN notes worked great, and it lets me work just as efficienty as EN Legacy did, and the deal-sealer for me was that I'm able to add my third device (Kindle Fire) without paying. So far, search works just as well and quickly for my needs. I've had to learn a bit about markdown, but actually I enjoyed that part of the transition experience. And the plugins are great.

You can tell by the number of posts that I'm new and not very active here. I only signed up because I was dumbfounded by EN10 and wanted to see what others' experience was and what they were going to do. The other thing to know about me is that I'm a light user of EN. That is, I use it only to take notes and write down my thoughts, not to archive media/email/etc. But EN is still very important because my notes/thoughts are valuable to me, and it's a tool that worked very well--until the bad surprise that was EN10. Through this forum's help, I was able to download EN Legacy and I've been using it just fine. However, as I got to hear about EN alternatives, I tried a few out, mostly out of curiosity. Notion was just too different. Google Keep was too limited. OneNote didn't handle Bangla font well, and also felt too different. For user-experience, Nimbus was quite similar to EN, but opening and syncing was slow, especially on my Kindle Fire, and the free plan couldn't handle the number of notes I'd want to import from EN. Finally, I tried Joplin and I've found an app that I think will work as a replacement for EN Legacy. I've had to learn a bit about using markdown and add some plugins, but overall it's been quite a smooth transition to Joplin. The import for all ~1200 notes in 5 notebooks worked perfectly. In the rich text editor view, my EN notes have the exact same formatting. It perfectly kept all my tags. It even has a web clipper that works on Opera (though this isn't that important for me). And it helps that the layout of the panes is quite similar to EN Legacy. It has all the essential features I need, without any annoyances (e.g. spellcheck that can't be turned off). Joplin checks these important boxes for me: 1) handle typing and viewing Bangla and Korean fonts well, 2) quick access to shortcuts/favorites (which Joplin lets me arrange as tabs through a plugin), 3) equally fast and accurate search, 4) problem-free and fast syncing (though I needed to do a bit of set-up on Dropbox), 5) lots of useful keyboard shortcuts, 6) easy tagging, 7) dark theme, 8] fast to open/no lag during usage, and 9) it's free. I do lose a few features, but I can easily live without them: 1) choice of fonts, 2) one-click highlighting and strikethrough, 3) sharing a note, 4) presentation mode, 5) lack of Trash bin for deleted notes. I'm sure there might be some other features missing, but it just means that I don't notice them because I never used them in EN. So if the experience/features are quite similar--and in fact, I don't think I gain any new features in Joplin (other than dark theme)--why switch at all? Why not just stay with EN Legacy? The main reason is that I can have Joplin working on the 3 devices I own: laptop, phone, and Kindle Fire. Before, I'd used Simplenote, and lately Nimbus, as a way to transfer some key notes back and forth between the Fire and my laptop. But as you can imagine, copying/pasting text and syncing between two different apps was rather cumbersome. But Joplin now allows me to keep all my notes in sync on all 3 devices for free. Also, as far as I can tell, the open source nature of Joplin means that there are lots of people actively requesting/producing new features and plugins, whereas the development on EN Legacy is no more. Again, Joplin won't be the solution for other types of users. But for note takers and text-info archivers (and cheapskates) like me, I think it's a perfectly viable alternative to EN Legacy. BTW, I'm not trying to take users away from EN or dump on EN or anything like that. I just wanted to share my experience with a bunch of EN alternatives. EN Legacy is a wonderful program, evidenced by the fact that only one of many alternatives came anywhere close to replacing it.

Agreed. It doesn't make sense to give a feature like spellcheck that can't be turned off. I can't see myself upgrading to v10 or ever purchasing a Premium plan unless this is fixed.

I'd pay about $3/month ($36/year) if they got rid of the free plan. But not for v10 the way it is now. I have no idea if EN can survive if they could get a whole lot more people on the free plan to subscribe at $36/year, but that might be one option. Even if it were a slightly feature-poor plan (without the most data intensive features such as uploading scans, PDFs, emails), I'd pay $36/year if it were the only way to continue using EN the way I want. The current $7.99 then can be for the really heavy/power users.

You're right to point out the distinction. But that makes it all the more critical for EN to find a product line and pricing scheme that will allow them to convert people like me to be paid users. My guess is that there are many like me who are not fans of subscription services, who like to pay once and own the product, and also many like me for whom $7.99/month is too high. So it's up to EN to make me an offer I can't resist, rather than for me to contribute $7.99/month to a company just so that they can continue to exist--especially if they're using that money to develop "upgrades" like v10. I'm sure if I had been paying for EN and had v10 thrust upon me, I'd be even more frustrated.

I don't think of EN as a charity, so no, I'm not going to contribute. If paying were the only way to be able to do what I currently do, then of course I would pay. But since free Legacy fits my needs perfectly, why would I pay? Similarly, I don't expect EN to accommodate anyone's, especially a non-paid user's needs. EN will do what it thinks is best for the company and its bottom line, as they should. And if what they decide is in line with my needs, then I will pay or upgrade or whatever. But no company should rely on people paying for something they don't need.

I'm not a power user, or a paid user. I only have just over 1200 notes, all of it generated by typing since I don't do any importing of emails, receipts, documents or media of any kind, and I only need to sync 2 devices. I don't know if I'm a heavy/light user, but I do use it every single day. It's one of the 2-3 apps on my WIndows laptop that is always open and I add to existing notes or create new ones multiple times each day. It's not quite a second brain for me, but it is critically important for me to in being productive and efficient. All that to say that V10 has been the worst software "upgrade" I've ever experienced. It almost feels like a different product. It just doesn't feel familiar or natural at all, and I can't seem to be as effective/productive because of all the annoyances. What kind of a program has no Preferences? Why can't I add words to the dictionary or at least tell it to ignore what it thinks are misspellings? Why can't I change fonts? In fact, it's the only one that made me go looking for a user forum to see if my experience was unique. Again, since I'm not a power/paid user, I'm happily back to using the Legacy app again. Maybe in a year (or two?), EN will have added enough of the old features that I can feel comfortable and productive again. The only new feature I appreciate is Dark mode, so if EN ever feels close to the legacy version but with Dark mode, I might try upgrading again. So I just wanted to say that even a non-power (and relatively light?) user like me feels the pain of this terrible V10. In my 30+ years of computer use, it is truly a uniquely bad upgrade.

I agree. It's the first time I've ever rolled back to a previous version of software--and I'm not even a power user compared to many people. The only thing I miss from v10 is the dark theme.