Magnus Lidbom

Unfortunately, opening in another window is actually even worse for my workflow. Say I need to click 4 links to get from the note I'm in to get to the one I want to get to and this takes less than a second per link if the links open in the same window. With your workaround, for each click a new window would open somewhere on my screen and get focus. I would have to hunt for the position of the next link in that window, thus opening yet another window etc. The end result is that I now have to spend perhaps 30 seconds hunting down the 3 lost windows among all my open windows and close them so that I can continue working in the last window. This is a huge hassle. Then after a while I often want to go back to where I was and keep working. In the old application that is as easy as Alt+Back 4 times. Takes 1 second. In the new its a huge pain to try to get back to the first note. I might have to do a manual search, something which also is far slower and more cumbersome in v10 than in the legacy client. I do this type of navigation constantly since my notes are essentially a large website with a hierarchical navigation menu. This is not a minor inconvenience for me. Edit: Nice, thank you

No. It is an intermittent problem for me and I have not spent any significant amount of time using the latest version. What exactly triggers it is unclear but once it started happening it kept happening all the time and restarting evernote did not help. It would be great if it has been fixed. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. However, as long as all internal links open in the main window no matter which window I clicked the link in, leaving that window open but lost in the background somewhere, I will stay with the legacy client. My notes are essentially a large and heavily interlinked website with navigation menus etc. It is an absolutely fabulous way of organizing large amounts of notes and navigating efficiently between them. But it is a huge pain to use it when I cannot follow links within the window I am in! Before someone tells me to contact support: I spent more than a week over a ton of emails talking to a support person about this when v10 first came out and 90% of my time was spent slowly realizing that they were a total total Evernote novice and I had to explain to them step by step what internal links were and how they worked in v10 vs legacy. Eventually they frankly admitted to being a novice and knowing very little about the application. That's first line support for you. Once that was accomplished the rest essentially went like this: Support: "Yes internal links behave as you say they do in v10". Me: "That is the problem! That's what I keep trying to explain. It shouldn't! Please change it to a sane behavior or at least provide a workaround or configuration setting to make it behave sanely!" And then there was radio silence. Talk about an exercise in frustration. This is, sadly, entirely consistent with my life-long experience of support. Getting past first line so that a bug or serious usability problem is brought to the attention of the actual development team? That happens once in a blue moon. Once or twice I have told them, in desperation but absolutely truthfully, that I am a software architect that has been building complicated software for more two decades and been in charge of the architectural aspects of projects for a decade. This has not helped in the slightest. First line support have their flowcharts for how to handle requests and I figure that "forward to development team" is for all intents and purposes not something that they do. I'm not in the slightest eager to have another go. Go figure

Agreed. No need to discuss using AI as a strategy to deal with offensive comments here. My apologies. On the other hand, I do feel that letting the commenter know how their comments sound and thus how they are apt to make others feel was entirely appropriate though. I don't believe in gritting your teeth and bearing it when people are being disrespectful and hurtful.

@akrde This is the first time I've used an AI in this way, but you know I think we are onto something If I post my own reactions to someone being offensive I tend to feel terrible all through the process. I find it extremely hard to be reasonably objective and not to become offensive myself and participate in starting a flame war. On the other hand, just bouncing back what an impartial AI has to say about the tone of the comment leaves me feeling relieved. I'm almost having fun here instead of having to really work at preventing myself from descending into hurt-and-anxiety driven aggression. I figure I'll be doing this more in the future if the occasion presents itself!

@PinkElephant I was wondering if I was overly sensitive or whether your comment was truly offensive, so I asked asked bing AI chat in more creative mode: how would you characterize the tone of this quote? Rather than give my own subjective opinion, here's what an impartial AI had to say: Right. That about sums it up.

I don't know what I was thinking posting here. It's just these daily freaking reminders to "upgrade" that were driving me nuts enough to think that there would be any point to posting on this forum. I don't know what I was thinking. Bye guys. All the best.

There are plenty of threads about the problem on the forums. Here's the first one that pops up when searching: https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/134120-evernote-freezes-for-1-min-when-it-is-put-in-the-background/#comment-607987 Sorry, but I'm not about to start spending tons of time trying to diagnose a bug that has been around for years in an application that I do not want to use.

@agsteele Did you read my comment!? If so, please tell me, how does constant long freezes during which I can get nothing done and I am forced to just sit there steaming in my own frustration become "OK again"? I cannot even do work in another application because it is when I switch back to Evernote that it freezes. If i switch away again I'm just resetting the wait time and I'm condemned to wait again from the start as soon as I switch back to evernote. This is not something for me to get used to, it is a severe bug that must be fixed but for some unfathomable reason evernote is simply ignoring. I just don't understand why anyone would suggest I just get used to something like that. Please! These are not minor feature differences I'm talking about. I'm talking about a bug that makes the software damn near unusable and a horrifyingly bad UI design brainfart that simply should never have been implemented. For crying out loud, implying that I should just get used to it or leave is the exact opposite of helpful! Why in the world would you even post something like that?

@Federico Simionato If you remove the ability to use the legacy version I will cancel my license and migrate to another platform. The new version is unusable in practice for me. Here are two of the issues that are completely unacceptable to me. It frequently freezes for a long time when switching between evernote and another app. I spend as much time waiting for freezes to resolve as using evernote when I need to switch between applications frequently. It drives me up the walls. This is a well known problem, reported again and again by many different users, that you just seem to either be unable to fix, or to not care about. Come on evernote! it still has horrible usability for internal links. Whenever I click an internal link the window I am in is hidden, the main window is displayed, and the main window is changed to show the target of that link. Seriously, who thought this up? If chrome or firefox did something this absurd people would be leaving them in droves for the competition. This is beyond bad UI design. I rely HEAVILY on internal links. If they do not open in the same window by default, as all sane software implements it, I refuse to use the application. Come on evernote! So again. If you force me to use the disaster that is the new application without fixing these issue, I'm gone!

Thank you for that tip. I will do so. But why in the blazes have a forum with a sub-forum called feedback/feature requests if they don't monitor it? It is grossly misleading. It plainly advertises that this is the place to give this type of feedback. It is very very strange to me.

I responded to this at that other comment. In short my argument is that opening a new window for every single link click is likewise a usability disaster. Just a different one. Try following a 10 link navigation path and then following it back through the ctrl+click method and you should see very clearly why.

It might be obvious from my initial post, but I'm not using the new app, and never will unless this is fixed. It is unusable to me in it's current state. I'm staying with the "legacy" actually functional app.

My notebooks are all heavily interlinked. Every note contains many links to other notes. This is essential to how I organize my information. If link support does not work well I am forced to migrate to another app. Two fixes are desperately needed to make links usable in version 10. When clicking an internal link in a note opened in its own window, open the link target in that window, not in the main window. Opening it in the main window is insanity. It has nothing to do with the current context in which I'm working. It destroys the context I chose and want in the main window. It leaves the current window open but hidden in the background having to be manually found and closed later. It makes navigating back to the note I was in impossible Essentially it turns Evernote from a functional multi window app into a broken, unintuitive, inconvenient mess for heavy users of internal links like me. Clicking a link should navigate to the link target, not show some editing information. Requiring two clicks and mouse movements to navigate a link is absurdly inconvenient for such an extremely common user task. You read and navigate far far more often than you edit. It's obvious that you should optimize convenience for the common case, not the edge case of wanting to edit a link. At the very least provide an option to navigate rather than edit as the default action when clicking a link. I cannot believe that neither of these UI design disasters have been fixed 3 months later in spite of complaints. Please Evernote. Please don't force me to go through a painful migration to another service through UI design decisions so bad that the app becomes so inconvenient and quirky as to be virtually unusable.

It took me all of 5 minutes to give up completely on the new version. Links have become a horribly inconvenient mess for crying out loud. How can you release a new version where using links is a mess!? Links! It's unbelievable. I'm staying with the old version. If Evernote tries to force me to use something as horrifyingly bad as this "new" app I will go looking for another service to use. This is completely unacceptable.