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On the basis that it would take (thumb in the air) 200,000 USD to create a completely new product, and each new user is 'worth' around 5 USD per month - but that's not profit that's just income - you'd be wanting a take-up of somewhere between 5,000 and 50,000 premium accounts. Please note I don't speak for Evernote in this; entirely my own opinion. I have no idea what percentage of income goes to R&D. Covering the cost may not be the problem - what if they have other productive plans for the next 24 months? Even covering the cost may not be the only issue - aren't there a lot of forks in the Linux pie?

Why? See previous discussions here about tags vs folders...

Thankyou (I think I tried that, but I'll give it another shot!)

I've got an ongoing issue with upload stats aired in a previous thread and with a support ticket - briefly as with the examples above, my web and mobile upload stats show me (courtesy of a recent reset) as using 25MB of my limit, while my desktop shows 229MB. The support team suggested the classic - completely close Evernote, backup the database, uninstall the application and then re-install allowing the server database to sync to my new install. I'm (reasonably) sure that would work, but it's an hour or several that I don't have at the moment. I'll get around to it - but if this is happening, wouldn't it be convenient to have a menu option to reset the upload count / sync it with the server setting?

Actually I'd like to amend my previous suggestion - notes with the same name are relatively common; usually a default of some sort. The same name does not indicate the same content. In fact my main problem is notes with different headings but the same content - when I grab (or upload) the same image twice (or more) times with my somewhat variable wetware supplying different titles each time. A search for exactly the same note size might find quite a bit of duplicated content.

Would be convenient and helpful to have an Evernote "duplicate finder" that checks for note name and size, since I found that some of my notes are named identically because they're all about one event, but each has a different image / different contents. As JB found though, most of my duplicates were default headings - which it's useful, but hardly vital, to clean up. When duplicate notes matter is when you find your routine search turns up two notes that are titled differently but still have the same content. If/ when that happens I'll worry about it.

Exactly the same process I think - List View / Select links / Copy Note Links and then Paste into Excel 2007. All separate lines. Maybe if you dump the list in a word-processor first? Actually JB you may have hit on a trick I didn't think about - because these are all active links, the deletion process isn't as painful as I thought it would be. All you need do is delete all but one of the highlighted duplications (I seem to have x4 of one heading!) by clicking the respective links, then deleting the notes from their opened windows. It's not automatic, but it's not exactly a hard slog. Edit: Although you might want to check that the notes are actually identical and do something less destructive first - like maybe move them to another notebook? Evernote doesn't actually prevent you from having two identical filenames, and maybe you were just amazingly consistent in naming all the notes from one event!

Depends how many rows your spreadsheet has. As far as I can see it should work with up to 10,000 - 50,000 titles fairly easily, depending on your spreadsheet and the speed and memory of your machine. Excel 2007 forinstance goes up to 1M rows and will highlight duplicates for you via "Conditional Formatting". Spreadsheets are pretty good tools for identifying duplicates. The only practical problem I see is that once you have your list of duplicated entries you're back to purely manual checks to find and delete them. So I'd go with method 2 unless you're really stuck for space or overwhelmed with duplicates!

OK - how's this for lateral think: Either sort notes by title copy note titles into excel (or your spreadsheet of choice) as a list use a simple formula (if a1=a2, then "x") to generate marks against duplicates delete all other titles from list (sorting is iffy, because a1 no longer = a2 even if it did originally...) find those names in Evernote Kill! () Or: Don't sweat it Carry on with normal searches If you notice a duplicate kill it then

Darn. I knew that.. Depends on the OS of course. If you're in Windows it's easy - find the file in Windows Explorer, shift+right click; look for 'copy as a path' and paste the path into your Ctrl-K window with "file:///" - without the quotation marks.

Right click note Copy Note Link Highlight note text Ctrl-K (windows) to open link window Paste note link

I agree that visual mapping is a powerful addition to Evernote's current set of 'brain' tools - +1 for the suggestion, meantime Mind Mapping of various sorts and apps like Workflowy are your only other options to peterf's suggestion above...

I've been using Evernote for a little while now - around 2 years seriously, and initially I was very uncomfortable because there were no folders and sub-folders in Evernote. It seemed impossible to adequately sort my information into categories and cases that could support a specific thesis. However as I got used to the tagging system I began to see many advantages in using tags, not folders - and as I develop my usage of Evernote I'm beginning to think that I have overtagged my notes anyway. The search syntax is so powerful (again, once you get used to it..) that filing and finding information doesn't really require any organisation on my part. I'm moving towards tagging notes only to show that they form part of an ongoing grouping that relates to a client, or an action. As example I'll look at dozens of notes related to banking regulation; I'll find them through searches for obvious keywords, and probably discard 70% of what I find as being repetitions, background or just irrelevant static. The ones I'm going to quote from though, in an article, letter or report will be tagged with the name of that action so that if (when) I get any ensuing grief, I can check back with the source material easily and without repeating the search and discard part of the exercise. Some of the really good notes now have several tags indicating that they've been in different forms of output at different times. I don't say this style of working couldn't work in a hierarchical filing model, but it is possible to do quite complex things 'only' with tags. Some visitors to the forum have insisted that post-it notes are essential if they are to use Evernote; others that a Mind Mapping layout is required. I don't suggest that Evernote disregard all such requests - the owners of the software have to make their own decision what development is physically and economically feasible within their own business plan. They'll likely be driven by sales take-up - when numbers of new customers start to dry up, they'll need to see what might restore their attraction; but currently with 20Million (ish) largely satisfied users, Evernote can afford to take the long view. They have a reasonably smooth, well-liked product and lots of detail work to iron out the rough edges between different clients, not to mention the new ones that come online in the next few years. The existing customer base will get unhappy if the product slows down, or adds unwieldy bloat to the menus, so EN have to keep massaging their infrastructure to keep pace with demand. For the forseeable future, Evernote will look pretty much like it does now - that's the "if it ain't broke" principle we all know and love - so if you really, REALLY require something else before you'll accept the product, it's not an unhelpful attitude to say "try elsewhere", it's just realistic. There are apps out there that add in the post-it feature; there are MindMapping and dozens of other specialist tools (I use several myself) to add functionality to Evernote. It's a mistake to think that Evernote should be the singe piece of software that anyone requires - extra features will always be available; it's what your laptop / smartphone / pad is there for! And of course if the next Better Mousetrap function is sadly lacking from Evernote, the Trunk and the Apps Markets, you always have the Evernote API from which you can develop your own...

AFAIK there's no way to choose which picture EN uses in snippet view where there's a choice of files. I don't think it regards RAW and as image file format though. You could try to force your 1st picture to the head of the queue by zipping all the others, so there's only one choice; or maybe use apply two-note policy - put your headline picture in one note and add a link to another note with the rest of the details. If you're sharing these notes it would speed up page loading - the 'index' note could just be a small(er) thumbnail version of the main picture with the full detail in a linked Note.

Evernote don't do disclosure (of the nature upcoming changes) and <inside joke alert> they don't do due dates either <kerching> but they do have lots of stuff in the pipeline, so "wait and see" is the only option. IMHO they are a wonderfully interactive software house (yes, I have a TT in progress) but they have said frequently that they won't reinvent any wheels - like word processors with sorting, formatting etc. If you want that functionality, it's already available externally. And if you get your sorting, what about outlining - and picture resizing - and word counts.. There's lots of none-external-brainiac-style things that users would like, and the one thing we all agree on is that everyone else is wrong about the most important feature to add next. Having said all of which: while its a pain to export text, sort it and re-import it, why not embed the saved file of your word-processor-of-choice in your note. Double-click the file to open it in the application and re-save to store your updated (and sorted) text. If you worry that the content of the file won't be indexed, just print off an occasional PDF draft and save that in the note too - or cut and paste the content as text, or just include some keywords, or tags so you can find it again easily. You're gonna have to use a work-around for a while, even if Evernote decided to introduce sorting in the next public update; it's just a question of finding the least hasslefull one for the moment.

Thanks again all - I'm sure it's not related but yesterday morning my laptop decided to have a BSOD day. Having gotten back online now after some running repairs I'm recovering from withdrawal symptoms. Got really smooth hands though (Thanks BnF )

Thanks for the posts guys (and BnF) - the support herd must have worked some magic because I came back to the machine after several hours* to find I gained a spare 40% capacity. Thank you Oh Great Green Technologically Talented Pachyderm Peeps. Of course I then ran it back up to 90% rather quickly, but there's only one day to go now. Howso'mever - my point wasn't (entirely) the personal angst, but the issue that Evernote does close you down rather finally once you get to the magic 1024 megabytes. Please Evernote, can we have a bit more warning and a bit more assistance for muppets like me when the usage limit kicks in? * I stomped off earlier in mild frustration to find Mrs Umped cleaning kitchen tiles. With better judgement temporarily derailed I offered to help. After the afore-mentioned hours, Mrs U is now deeply suspicious of my sudden interest in routine housework and I have washday-red hands. When I get done here I'm going to have to find some hand cream.

Ironically I just ran into this problem and found a couple of nasty traps. My online usage and my desktop usage don't match. I've been lazily going by my mobile usage figure because it's in front of my nose, and not looking at the desktop number because I have to click an icon to open the window. The icon was getting greener, which is to be expected because I've only got 2 days left to the end of this cycle; but my mobile says "used 34%" and I didn't look further. Unfortunately the mobile (and the web) and the desktop usage level is different by 540MB(!!) and according to the desktop I just exceeded my monthly usage. Things have locked down - I can't add any more notes, except into my new "overflow" notebook otherwise I get an error which says "this action can't be completed" while creating a note. This error REALLY means what it says on the can, because the new note I created got lost as I switched to the new notebook. The account went "over the top" while I was uploading several files, and I noticed a fleeting warning that I'd got to 95% of my usage, but the final 50MB went by rather fast and the uploads hit the limit before I could do any more. I did what I could to rescue the error - emptied trash on desktop and web, synced again and restarted, but no joy. There's a ticket # 16051-67009 + error log in the queue somewhere guys.. It is only two days to my next allocation, and it's Friday, and I know I can buy some more space if I need it.. but that was an interruption to my orderly day I did not need! I do think we need to make things a bit clearer at the top end of the usage bar - specifically: Make the usage bar on the Windows desktop version bigger Once the account hits the limit, automatically send any new notes to an "overflow" notebook Make the usage warning pop up at 75% and at each subsequent 10% to 100 Check the desktop usage numbers against the server, and if there's a serious discrepancy throw a warning error! Check the usage available against the import folder contents and throw an error if there's not enough capacity to complete the process. Wonder what I can do for the next 2 days?

I've tried (in my dumb ignorant days, many hours ago) to upload more than the maximum for one note, and just got an error message on sync. At the time EN wasn't very explicit about the reason for the failure, which nearly led to me taking a router apart looking for a comms issue; but hopefully this will have changed. Either way I suspect you'll just get an error and be unable to close the note. Alternatively of course you could make use of that nice little facility to upgrade your limit for a month and then close the note, which should get round your immediate problem (and quite a few subsequent ones) while you work out when the next cycle starts.

Webbrain includes that horrible word "publish" - many of the maps I want to produce will be stuff I want to be confidential to just me and Evernote.

Not really an Evernote issue, but just to add another mind map comment - I Troll around here for useful tips, and frequently follow links that seem to lead to irrelevant happy chance finds.. there was a link in something I read recently to a piece by Dan Gold about his use of Evernote + SugarSync, and DG's piece linked to a page of his useful links, which led me to a video about mind mapping. Now I know the audience here will yawn, because we've done mindmapping to death already: but bear with me - this is SciPlore Mindmapping a beta product tweaked by some guys in white coats for writing higher ed and science papers. This little honey will list all the PDFs in a hard drive folder when pointed at the folder, and will also show bookmarks and meta data from the files in a mindmap, as well as allowing editing. I have quite a few PDFs on my laptop that I haven't gotten around to moving or shrinking yet, and it seems to me that this software will do very nicely to index what I do have and save its output to Evernote so I can kind of search-by-proxy all my files whether Evernoted or not. If you're interested in mind mapping I recommend a view.

There's a mental picture I'd pay to forget. Seriously folks - Mind Mapping is a valuable way of taking another view of your data. It's not the only way, because one problem of big mind maps is - you start to forget where things are, and you spend more time finding and navigating to them over a large layout than you would in simply typing new points in as with Evernote. To-do lists are another way of looking at the same information. Evernote is allegedly moving towards some sort of GTD (ish) implementation, so why not mind maps? It's a big, graphics-driven area however. We may yet be saved from the Sprouts if it takes longer than 3 years.

One peculiarity feature of MSWord is that if you open a document file, then close it again, Word doesn't let go of the file. I get the same error - the fix is to close Word temporarily to force it to clear out whatever webbed bunker it's keeping the file in. Carry out your operation, reopen Word. Robert is then your elderly male relative. As to seeing the document contents, that doesn't happen except for picture files and PDFs. If you need to see inside the file, or some part of it, cut and paste the relevant sections into the note as well as attaching the file, or print the file to PDF and attach both the PDF version and the Word file to the note. Edit: Darn! just pipped to the post there...

I'm sure I said this before somewhere (not that it'll stop me repeating it here..) but my first venture into information management was via Lotus Agenda - software so smart that it would set up its own categories to help you find stuff. I swear the phrase "artificial intelligence" came up, - and this was 30 years ago! The idea was that if (for example) you were in the real estate business and entered all your various property descriptions into Agenda as pure text, a buyer could come along and ask for all the properties with a sea view, 2-car garage and trees, and if there were properties in there that matched all three requirements, out would come the list. Agenda was intended to help your computer takle the place of "all those bits of paper" that were lying around on everyone's desk - want to remember something? Put it into Agenda until you need it. Trouble was, Agenda was a black box system. You didn't see your raw data once entered, and while I might suspect that some important information had been corrupted or lost, there was no way to check except by looking at search results. Evernote has that defect licked - I can see all my notes in my various notebooks, and if necessary I can comb through the notes from a specific date looking at each one to find something I know is in there. There's no zoom control however. I can look at my notes directly, or go via searches and tags and notebooks; and it seems lots of people use detailed titles for notes, so they can scan down a search listing to find the note they require. But that's all word and language-based. It is possible to prompt memories, innovative thought and insight by stepping back from this level of detail and looking at a "broader picture" - I always use the example of Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes. It's an engaging little sci-fi story about what happens when two test subjects - a mouse, then a man - undergo intelligence enhancing procedures. They get much smarter, then they don't. And somewhere in that story there's a description of the four cycles of an internal combustion engine as "suck, squeeze, pop, phooey". Reading that book in school was the first time I saw that popular contraction of the cycles, and it's stuck with me since. Knowing that phrase gives me "induction, compression, ignition, exhaust" and writing those eight words down links me to camshafts, spark plugs, pistons and pretty much everything that makes the magic happen. Given a following wind and a large whiteboard I can cover a lot of space with the resulting spider diagram (or "mind map" as we call it in the trade..) and I can do that again, and again. (I'll resist repeating that a few more times.) Evernote isn't set up to create that sort of spatial relationship between bits of information, or give that sort of overview which can be applied to lots of work and personal issues. I do wish it could be, but as I said above I think the best we can hope for short(ish) term is to interest Evernote and some MindMap providers into playing more constructively together. In that context it's good that Evernote doesn't MindMap, and MindMaps aren't infinitely expandable databases. But both are definitely operating in contiguous spaces.

Evernote has indicated previously that it doesn't want to reinvent any wheels and seems happy to leave word-processing, webpage authoring, graphics processing and lots of other stuff to the people who've already built up a substantial body of expertise (and active users) in their chosen fields. I would imagine a mind-map style interface for Evernote would not only require a considerable amount of catching up with the market on their part, but it would also mean a pretty drastic rethink of their database and infrastructure which is in daily use by millions of - in many cases fee-paying - customers. If there's a backup back-burner to the back burner I'd guess this might be on it, but this is really not an issue you'd want to hold your breath on. It seems far more likely that either 1) a third-party developer will use the Evernote API to host the node information but display it via their own front-end; and/ or 2) Evernote will (eventually) be able to display the contents of a mindmap file if it is embedded in a note. Even so there are a number of file formats in use from MindManager to FreeMind. It is possible to output most mindmap files as a graphics file so you can attach a completed mind map to a note, but it would be useful to be able to dump a work in progress out there which could be easily resumed and saved without having to export the file first. If you're heavily into mind mapping, you'll use file-linking where a node in one map is actually the link to another map - don't think this will be possible outside of the mind mapping software itself, so serious mappers will probably always want to use bespoke software rather than see how far Evernote can copy the facilities they need. I use MindJet and Mind on Track both of whom do lots of other things besides make pretty pictures. There's that whole diary and Due Date thing for starters... Sorry to be negative, but I'm very happy with what Evernote does well now, and I'd hate to have that standard slip just to include some features that already exist in other commercial software.