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  1. 2 hours ago, jefito said:

    Shouldn't a proper "business strategy forecast" also break down the percentage of people in the "rant and complain" plus "don't complain" vs those who don't care at all because they have adequate storage for all of their notes on their desktop devices? Besides that, at least the Windows client has been modified to address the storage issue with on-demand sync. BTW, I'm not saying that there's no valid case for notebook-based selective sync -- I'm familiar with this from my Android device; but what I'm guessing is that a lot of desktop client users just don't have this problem.

    You're quite right, it just depends over which time-frame we're talking about. there are two factors. (1) Disk Space, as you rightly pointed out, is not really and issue for most desktop devices, however, one does run into limiting factors when it comes to database *volume*  (2) - the more information a user acquires, the more slugging the device comes. Customers will (unfairly) expect the local search results to be at least as fast as a google search result. But a local desktop units could never match the power of google virtual server arrays. So there is a case for local indexing with file content on the backend makes sense. Also the market seems to be moving towards cheap / low end devices that are orientated more towards connectivity rather than raw power. (sadly so)

    Google has the advantage that PDF files "stream" quickly via the web, whilst Evernote downloads the whole file first ... so the option of using EN web version is not practical ... one can't even merge two files on the web version (although we could back in the day)

    I still love a good solid desktop machine (I'm old school) but the reality is that I need my information available wherever and whenever I am at a moment's notice. 

    The role of my desktop is increasingly is just to make sure I have a local copy of my EN Database (which I backup to an external drive, which I store in my safe).

    My job (like most people's these days) is based on the quality of information I can provide in my profession. It's our bread and butter as they say - so it's more serious than pictures of fluffy kittens and instagram photos of food. 

    I think this makes up a large part of the *paying* EN users, like you and me, I would gather


  2. Selective sync has been a major request for at least 5 years. Particularly by MacBook users with limited disk space.

    Like many other request, this has been ignored by Evernote ... so let me explain how this will play out.

    Step 1: After a lot of frustration, a premium customer is going to start putting their files onto Google drive and then linking it into an Evernote.

    Step 2: To conserve disk space on Google Drive, they will start converting these files to Google Doc files (which does not count against the 15 GB quota)

    Step 3: These users will begin to realise that they can just as easily search for files in Google Drive as they can with Evernote ... except for free

    Step 4: After doing this for a year, the client spends more and more time in Google Drive, using GDocs and Keep

    Step 5: By the time the client is due to pay their next premium subscription, they start wondering if they still need Evernote, if they're doing most of their stuff in Google Drive anyway.

    The ones that rant and complain on the forums ... they're not going anywhere ... they're emotionally invested in the product ... that's why they complain.

    It's the other 90% who *don't* complain ... these are the people who will simply add 2+2 and move on, because it makes sense.


    This is not a feature request, it's a business strategy forecast.


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  3. If you have MS Office installed, this will give to the best results.

    In Evernote, share the note as an email - send it to yourself, specifically to your MS Outlook Client.

    Then open this email (in Outlook) and save it as an MHT file.

    Open the MHT format file with MS Word.

    This way you'll keep font and images. However, the images will be too large in the word document, so you'll have to resize them.


    If you export to MHT directly from Evernote, the images do not always appear when opening with MS Word.



    Evernote >> email >> Outlook >> MHT >> Word

  4. Quote

    Taking anyone or any organization to task for some function failure tends to be a long and difficult road. 

    Very true words, indeed. 

    "It is the nature of immature men to want to fight and die for their cause, while it is the nature of mature men who wish proceed quietly for the theirs"



  5. @gazumped I'm laughing out loud as I type this, in response to 

    "none of us have any idea whether or not this feature used to available"

    I suspect you're having a bit of fun with me you rascal .. but I'll take the bait ...

     To be clear - I'm not crying over spilt milk here - I'm speaking about the future // Ours and Evernote specifically

    • When was the "public announcement" made to all the customers that this feature would no longer be available .. or were we left to find out for ourselves without prior warning?
    • Is this standard practice for Evernote, would a similar approach be taken in the future if other features no longer function? (Evernote Policy & Procedure)
    • When exactly did this function break .. which date/software version of android (unanswered question)
    • Why did it break (unanswered question)
    • What of the people who purchased OfficeSuite Pro expressly for this purpose and now cannot use it?
    • What is the future direction/intent to rectify this (if any) | CAPA - Corrective And Preventative Action


  6. @Job135 Yes, I fully agree - he did say that .. to you, when you asked (as I did), presumably after a lot of strife and fiddling with your device.

    What I mean is:

    • When was the "public announcement" made to all the customers that this feature would no longer be available .. or were we left to find out for ourselves without prior warning?
    • Is this standard practice for Evernote, would a similar approach be taken in the future if other features no longer function? (Evernote Policy & Procedure)
    • When exactly did this function break .. which date / software version of android (unanswered question)
    • Why did it break (unanswered question)
    • What of the people who purchased OfficeSuite Pro expressly for this purpose and now cannot use it?
    • What is the future direction / intent to rectify this (if any) | CAPA - Corrective And Preventative Action



  7. @Gazumped

    Firstly, I need to rest a bit, being somewhat exhausted in trying to convince the people at Evernote that there is actually a problem (When they know perfectly well that there is one, but are deliberately evasive / obtuse - either that or they have very short memories .. feature was put in place 4 years ago .. that's like yesterday on my time scale)

    Next Step: Raise Awareness, get collective voices to raise tickets and steadily push this up the priority tree.

    I'm doing this because I believe it is necessary for Evernote's long term survival.

    Seven years ago,despite a nagging voice in my head, I decided to back Evernote **for the long term** to form part of my Exocortex (which up until then was based on plain-text notes)

    All long term, paying customers are stake-holders, not customers, our fates are inter-twined with Evernote's.

    Evernote wants to increase their fees - that's fine with me, if it means they'll still be around for the next 25 years.

    If they're making fundamentally bad moves that will make them go the way of the doe-doe bird, then we, the stake-holders need to step in.

    Just because we "love" the system and use it daily does not mean we should take an apologist's stance with regard to the shortcomings.

    People are moving away from laptops, and moving towards tablets. If Evernote was going to "get into bed" with another company for document attachments, then it should've been Microsoft (provided the documents would be searchable from within Evernote) as then people could still have a seamless workflow for their daily work and keep Evernote as the central work-flow base. (This coupled with Evernote chat - makes sense in the work environment)







  8. So finally my original (Conspiracy theory 1) has been validated: Where I said:



    Is this perhaps why Evernote decided to make linking to Google Docs a new feature?

    This is not a suitable substitute as one cannot search these file contents from within Evernote





    My name is Matt and I will be assisting you with this saving issue you are experiencing after editing your documents. This is something that the team is currently looking into right now.

    In the meantime, the easiest workaround would be to upload the documents to Google Drive and to put them into your notes. Any change done with these documents will automatically be synced back to the Google servers.

    Please let me know if you have any further questions.

    Matt W.




    It *was* always possible to edit / annotate / update EXISTING MS Word / Excel / Power Point attachments in the ANDROID version of Evernote - particularly if you purchased (which I did) the Evernote ENDORSED Office Suite Pro app.


    Then Evernote made changes which BROKE / REMOVED this function

    Evernote is been found guilty of

    (1) Not being forthcoming with it's customers of this reduced functionality (For years I though it was *my phone* that was faulty and wasted countless hours trying to fix it)

    (2) led customers to purchase apps that no longer serve their intended function

    (3) Trying to slip-in Google Drive as an alternative solution, hoping everyone will forget that there was a better solution to begin with.

    Verdict: EVERNOTE, Guilty as charged.






  9. Returning to my Conspiracy Theory #1

    Statement extract from Tech Support

    Shane J. (Evernote Help and Learning)

    Apr 4, 10:14 PDT

    Hello Client,

    Here is what the head of our Android team said to me:

    "We never supported this for MS Office. A long time ago (before MS had apps on Android), we did an integration w/ a non-MS app that would tell our app when a document was modified and we would update it."

    He has advised me though that he will treat this as a feature request and I have already filed a report with them.



    Compare with Evernote Webpage below.



    They are deliberately avoiding to point.


    A critical feature of Evernote has stopped working. I've paid for Evernote and for OfficeSuite because I was promised the ability to edit attachments and it no longer works.





  10. Well @gazumped , you are quite right that I need to backup my statements with facts - and rightly so.

    I've raised a ticket and I'll share the response with the forum in case anyone else needs it.

    To be concise then:

    It was, in the past possible to edit attachments in android.

    This is not longer possible - there are two possible explanations

    • (1) The is a technical issue with *my* device(s)
    • (2) This function is no longer possible in Evernote for android.

    I think a frustration for me is that Evernote does not *explicitly* say :

    This function no longer works in Evernote ,,, sorry, you'll have to find another solution"


    This function most certainly does work, there must be a technical issue with your phone.

    This is the first step to fault finding, that I can't get past.



    • Evernote for Android now comes with the ability to edit Office documents.
    • Our favorite notemaking system, Evernote, now has the ability to edit Office documents within their Android version.
    • Yes – we very much prefer Evernote over Office Onenote. Evernote runs very well, syncs seamlessly and completely across all popular platforms and devices.
    • Evernote has teamed up with OfficeSuite to provide the ability to edit doc, docx, xls, xlsx, ppt, pptx and other Office documents (when attached to Evernote).
    • Assuming you already have Evernote for Android, install OfficeSuite Pro 7 Trial version.

    Source:  https://office-watch.com/2013/editing-office-documents-with-evernote/






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  11. Your situation, makes sense .. expected when editing .xls and saving .xlsx

    The situation I described above is editing like-for-like documents.

    Open .docx file .. edit it, save = "Resource not changed" message.

    same with excel sheets etc.

    This is a common problem for many, if not most users, answers are surprisingly scarces.


    Tickets raised vanish into unknown dimensions ... diversions and distraction s in place of direct answers ... most conspiratol ?

    There's something afoot I tell you.

    Skullduggery most foul.

    On a serious note, it used to work perfectly not so long ago, perhaps 2 years .. now it's gone (Like a Google Product)





  12. *** Edit Update ***



    To save time: This is what this thread will tell you

    - About 2 years ago, you could edit/update an existing attachment in Evernote Android Version. (Eg. Word / Excel/Powerpoint) .. providing you had installed an app to do eg. OfficeSuite)

    - You can't do this anymore, and Evernote didn't tell anyone about it.

    - Recently they've slipped in a "new feature" where you can "attach" Google Docs to your Note .... but this means that the contents of that note is not searchable in Evernote.

    So now we're stuck ... I would like to ask you to copy this thread https://discussion.evernote.com/topic/105216-attachments-cannot-be-edited/#comment-462213 

    and include it when you raise a ticket with Evernote Support Team, as this is the only way to move it up the priority tree,

    Why is this important: Because people are moving away from laptops, and towards tablets for their daily workflows ... we need to encourage Evernote to place full desktop functionality onto these devices for it's own long term survival.

    Thanks .. I hope this synopsis saved you some time (I hate reading long texts when I'm looking for straight answers, myself) Please raise the ticket ..if you don't know how click here Submit a BUG report via an EN Support Ticket 


    This topic has been raised before but no conclusion was reached and it was for much earlier versions of the software.


    It was always possible in the past, to be able to open an attachment file (say a word document) , edit it, and save it.

    Evernote Android would kindly ask if you would like to update the file.

    This is no longer the case. Evernote Android simply replies with "Resources not changed"... which is simply another way of saying "The files are read only permission"

    This is interesting, because the directory where these files are located (Android/com.evernote/tmp) .. or something like that .. has full read/write permissions.


    Also .. these files are not located on the phones SD card, but internal memory, so SAD card issues can be ruled out.


    Finally, I've tested this with several different application.

    I've opened the attachment with Android Word, WPS, Google Docs, and even Office Suite (which was "endorsed" by Evernote a few years ago as the better option for editing attachments)

    (Conspiracy theory 1)

    Is this perhaps why Evernote decided to make linking to Google Docs a new feature?

    This is not a suitable substitute as one cannot search these file contents from within Evernote


    (Conspiracy theory 2)

    Curiously, OneNote users also have this problem. Is there perhaps an agenda to herd us sheeple to put all our documents onto cloud servers such a Drive/OneDrive/DropBox)?



  13. Hi Gock.

    I found another use for Marxico, and perhaps you could earn some well deserved revenue for all your hard work.

    I use the Marxico on my Android device (I made a shortcut to my home screen) because it's the only way to be able to correctly format text on the phone.

    • This is the only way I can cut-paste test from different sources and keep font consistent
    • This is the only way I can create tables
    • This is the only way I can create decent highlights
    • This is the only way I can enter formulas

    Marxico has given a lot of power to the Mobile Evernote user (even if it was not perhaps the intended use)

    Personally I think Evernote should partner with you to create a mobile app interface, or use Marxico as a layer and then build on top of it for folks who can't grasp MarkDown formatting.


    Marxico has solves every formatting problem on the Android device ... that's gotta be worth something.



  14. eBooks (in my opinion) are in a mess at this point in time.

    The average eBook reader will have some books in the Kindle Cloud, some in the Google Play Book Store and others on their hard drive (perhaps backed up, perhaps not!)

    Then to add to the complexity, some would use laptops/phones/kobos/kindles/other to read their books.

    In a word - FRAGMENTATION -

    Using Evernote, I've managed to gain control of my eBooks in a centralized, controlled manner.


    Go to each cloud service, download the ebooks

    Remove DRM from said books (Google for how-to)

    Convert said book to several popular formats via free open source app Calibre ebook management program


    Put all formats into a single note.

    Calibre also include a .jpg file showing the cover of the book. which I always include as this ensure I can see the book easily in snippet view.

    All eBooks placed in a notebook called My_Purchased_eBooks

    As I read ebooks on my phone /tablet  via MoonReader, I have access to all my ebooks at anytime.

    I also have offline copies via the Desktop version of Evernote

    I no longer have to worry about backing up my downloaded eBooks. 

    Ebooks tend to be small in size, so it really is no burden on EverNote and even free-users don't have to worry about using up their monthly quota for this.







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  15. Just wanted to share a trick that works for me.

    I have an evening check list and a morning check list. They change in subtle ways from month to month as required.

    I wanted this to remind me every weekday at specific times.

    EverNote alarms do not allow for this functionality, so I did the following.

    I created the notes as required, and then shared the link to a Google Keep note.

    Google Keep allows for repeating reminders and also integrates with Google Calendar, Google Inbox and Google Now.

    The logical question might be, why not just write the notes directly into Google Keep.

    The short answer is "centralisation" .. if such a word exists.

    Google Keep starts to unravel as a system when more than 50 notes appear in the system (IMO) .. no NoteBooks.

    But as a reminder system it excels.

    Use the strength of each system, synergistically.


    Hope it works for you ;)




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  16. For what it's worth - I've made some template note to suite my needs - perhaps yours as well

    - A mono-space template that will work on android and the PC (presume Mac as well)

    - A mono-space template with the so-called 80's Hacker theme (Black page with luminous green font)

    An then a series of "Post-It" note templates. Each template has a similar background colour and uses the Comic font for a more "human" feel.


    Template Hackers 80's.enex

    Post-It Notes Pink.enex

    Post-It Notes Blue.enex

    Post-It Notes Yellow.enex

    Post-It Notes Orange.enex

    Post-It Notes Lime.enex

    Monospace Courier.enex

  17. Reviving this thread to cross link to a Topic I posted about life logging and Evernote





    I've found a method for android users to record their entire day at 30 second intervals and then store this as a +/- 15 Mb video file.

    In terms of storage, it's about the same as 356 mp3 audio files per year. 


    I did this without Memento, but I do need a desktop to merge the snapshots into a video file.

    I was using a linux script to do this, but I also used windows at other times.


    I'm writing a tutorial on how to achieve this.


    Downside, it that I had to make a lanyard type holder to wear the phone around my neck, which made me feel a bit awkward, but then they started selling these phone lanyards in the shops, so it became a little less weird.

  18. I am very interested in life logging. Looking forward to see your posts! 


    I looked at your tutorials - you have said many things that I want to say already.

    And in a more detailed and better way!


    I used google translate to convert them to English. I was very impressed with your work and your novel. :)

  19. Good points raised there.

    In fact I agonized over this exact thing for almost a year before I decided to go with Evernote.

    I'm now at 13K notes.


    I've made a decision that eventually, I will use Evernote daily via the cloud exclusively, but keep one desktop running with the sole purpose of keeping an "offline backup" of my notes.


    That enex file (currently 6 GB in size) is backed up to an external portable hard drive which I keep in my safe.

    I perform these backups on Sundays.


    It might seem excessive, but it is part of my ritual. (I also backup other things outside of Evenote, such as videos of loved ones.

    I keep dual copies of everything in the cloud and as offline data.

    At the end of the day, it is *my* responsibility to ensure my data is backed up.


    I believe that, as you say, eventually when you hit the 50K number, the database will become sluggish - as a limitation of the end user's hardware.

    By searching via the web interface, the hard work of crunching through those files is done by the Evernote servers, rather than my poor old desktop. :)


    This is my chosen approach, I don't know if it's the best method, but I've spent a lot of time thinking about this, and seem like the best of both worlds.

  20. Draft Version 0.2 Updated 2014-10-21 


    I'd like to start this forum for all hard core life loggers, that have chosen Evernote as their platform.

    Over the years I've found ways to automatically or semi-automatically record:

    • Phone calls
    • Location (instant and full travel path)
    • Conversations
    • Handwritten notes
    • Web Search History
    • Music Listened to
    • Continuous 30 second interval pictures condensed into a 10 MB video file (per day)

    any many other thing - which I will share in detail on this forum and invite others to share their methods as well.


    But first, I'd like to point out a few things:


    It has never been as easy as it is today to action life logging.

    Life logging has been around for a very, very long time.


    Apologies: This post is limited to Windows Desktop and Android Mobile devices, as this is what I use, but please contribute any information about Mac / iPhone alternatives.



    First stop: Writenote app for Evernote

    [screenshots] [App details]


    Life logging should be something automatic and integrated into your daily life.

    If you get to a stage where you are recording your day without being aware of it, because it is an automatic habit, I would say you are in the right place.

    This is why I like Writenote (I purchased the app, got the Pro version) - it allows you to record events on-the-fly and is very configurable.


    It creates one note per day.


    You can add as many entries as you like in a single day, each entry is timed stamped.


    It can automatically add a Google Maps link to you location (if you want)

    It can automatically resize any pictures you add to EverNote, while leaving the original photo unchanged

    It will write the dates and times in the format you prefer.


    In my case, the format is




    with time stamps as





    Because of the location storing function, I no longer use foursquare (or similar) apps for life logging purposes (although I still use them for other things) 

    I prefer to leave GPS permanently set to "on" because I don't want to have to fiddle with GPS settings each time I make a journal entry.

    For me the goal is to make small quick "twitter-like" entries throughout the day, and each entry shouldn't take more than 10 seconds to perform.


    I also prefer to have a phone on my belt so that I can "quick draw" my phone (like a cowboy quick drawing his gun)

    I don't want to scratch through my bag or jacket pocket to jot something down.

    There is a certain "flow" that is aimed for, that makes the process instantaneous and effortless - but it requires some planning.


    BTW, Apparently Leonardo Da Vinci would keep two small book strapped to his belt to make quick notes when ideas struck him.

    If it's good enough for LDV, it's good enough for me.  :)





    Next Stop: Recording phone calls.


    Install RecordMyCall <= Click link to app install


    Configure it to upload recorded conversations to Google Drive or DropBox.


    Use IFTTT to automatically forward a link to Evernote each time a new file appears.




    Install DropBox or Google Drive onto your desktop.

    Then use Evernote [import Folders] to automatically upload the directory where the recorded phone calls appear.


    ToDo: Add screen shots and detailed explanation how to do these things.


    RecordMyCall gives you a lot of options, such as


    * How to rename the files | I prefer the format ccyy-mm-dd Incoming phone number - persons name

    *Choose format of recording amr/mp4/mp3 | I prefer amr, because it has the smallest file size, but mp4 is a good alternative too.

    A typical phone call is about 50 - 300 kbs in amr format.


    Recording entire travel path


    For this I installed Google My Tracks <=Click Link for app

    I start this each morning and stop it each night before I go sleep.

    My Tracks allows you to automatically upload each track to Google Drive.


    You can manually export this file and then share it to Evernote.


    I prefer to have this happen automatically, so I do this.


    On my Windows Desktop, I have Google Drive Installed.

    I've configured Evernote's folder import to upload any new track files.


    Note: Each track files is only a few kilo-bits in size (Essentially it's just a text files with a rows of GPS coordinates)

    Google Earth should be installed on you computer, that will launch when you click the file from inside Evernote.


    You can also install Google Earth on your android phone, but for some reason, the kml file will not launch Google Earth on the android phone, it will have to be downloaded to a temporary location first.




    Looking at one file recorded on New Years day 2 years ago, reminded me that I visited some friends on that day, that I stopped off at a DVD store and went to the beach, I then entered that into my journal rretrospectively and called up those same friends because I hadn't spoken to them in a while.
    The permanent track file is a useful backup for when you've forgotten to make a record journal record and you want to track your steps, or if you've lost/forgotten something and want to track your movements.
    Recording Your entire days in a 30 second interval photo video
    Coming soon ... 


















  21. I've been grappling with this same problem, but I think and answer is emerging.


    This is what I would suggest.


    On the laptop, connect to Evernote via WebOnly on Chrome.

    You can use chrome in stand-alone application mode, so that Evernote appears just like an app.


    I would not have suggested this last year, but the new web interface combined with the web clipper which has Skitch Markups included, makes it a 99% replacement for the desktop version.


    Keep a synced copy on another desktop computer with a big hard drive, if offline copies are important.


    I think that eventually, this problem is going to hit every single serious EN user in time.

    We're all going to stare at that 30 GB exb file (which will probably be *very* slow) and think, "This Elephant is just to big for my device".


    I'm at a cross-road myself, and I have to decide where I'm going to put my data, in EN or G Drive. Both are searchable.

    I also have conceded that cloud storage that is highly searchable from anywhere is my only option in order to have an effective exocortex.

    (2nd brain)


    The only remaining consideration is - of course -


    The data charges connecting to the cloud.







  22. I had a nice little blog called http://walker.postach.io/, then suddenly a few months ago, I got this


    404: Not Found

    Sorry mate, but that content you're looking for has apparently sprouted legs and trotted off.


    I did send off a few emails to Postash.io, but got no reponse, the then I tought "Hey, wait a minute .... all my blog posts are still in Evernote, so I'll just recreate the blog site, by updating each note by adding  a single dot to each page .... and then sync EN"


    Nothing ... just the "Welcome to Postach.io" page.


    I really wanted to like this site. I was a big fan of the whole concept, but it just isn't working - at least for me.



    Worst part is that all my twitter links and facebook links to my blog will now follow through to the 404 error message.


    I was hoping to use Postash.io and my one stop shop to send to twitter, facebook, and blog from one point.




  23. I was so impressed with the new Evernote 5 for windows that I wrote this on my Blog.

    The core message is in colour


    I'm not going to babble on too much about Evernote, those that use it, swear by it.
    When I read about the "new Evernote flat interface" I just smiled and thought "Here we go - everyone is jumping onto the 'flat design interface' and Evernote is no exception"

    I downloaded it any way because I was hooked by the new feature which automatically brings up related document as you type (in fact it's happening right now while I type this.)
    It will also bring up related documents during search.

    Simple enough, but this addition can too easily be underestimated.
    This function is a massive leap forward because the biggest change is not in the software, but in your brain.

    For the first time, software is now beginning to work like the human brain (by association) and the constant stream of associated / related snippets of information that present themselves to you as you work is going to turbo charge your own association ... and memory links. This is going to jog your memory, create cross connection, enhance creativity, and enhance intuition.
    When you start to see connections between things that you didn't realize before - that's an effective IQ boost.

    It's difficult to explain intuition and gestalt moments in words, but in a few months, I'm sure people will be talking about it.

    But I digress ..

    So I installed it under wine on my 6 year old  Lubuntu desktop and when it loaded, at first there were no files.
    I thought that it was a linux-wine compatibility issue, but then I saw that Evernote was re-indexing my database for optimal performance - nice.

    And then I saw the interface - and after a bad week, this just made me feel so much better.

    Clean, nay more than clean, Zen-like - this interface is the very essence of sublime and understated elegance.
    Just pure simple off white and dark grey text with minimal dark grey icons.

    This, by coincidence is the exact them I use when setting up vim or any text editor to be used for long typing session.

    Well done Evernote, this is more than just a cosmetic change.

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