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  1. I'm getting the following message when clicking the knowledgebase link on the Evernote support page I'm attempting to access the page on a Mac using the Firefox browser.
  2. I've tried this out and it works. Definitely makes entering location information easier, at least from the Mac. It would be nice to have this invokable as a button from within Evernote, without having to separately open Google Earth and run the script, but that's obviously beyond what can be done with a script. One comment: I suspect about 95% of Evernote users have no idea how to run an Applescript. Neither your website nor the Evernote page make any attempt to explain this, or, if they do, I couldn't find it. My guess is the vast majority of people reading this will have no idea how to get from the script on your webpage to something that they can actually use. I'd advise including a short tutorial laying out each necessary step.
  3. Justin, I'll play with the script and let you know what I think. The Google Earth applications you're suggesting sound interesting, but my main interest in location information is being able to access that information from my mobile device, which is an iPhone. I doubt there's any easy way to invoke Google Earth from the Evernote iPhone app (in fact I suspect it's currently impossible). That being the case, it's not clear to me how Google Earth could be integrated with Evernote for use on the iPhone. I suppose it would be possible to use the iPhone's web browser, rather than the Evernote app, but that seems like a lot of overhead and I'd really have to be convinced that it would work as quickly on the iPhone as the Evernote-Google maps integration. So, if you have some way for your suggested applications to work on the iPhone, I'd definitely be interested in hearing about it, and I could probably make some suggestions about features I'd like to see. If it only works on the desktop client or the web, however, it seems like it would be a lot less valuable.
  4. Somewhat difficult to answer without knowing what the scripts are going to do. I'm assuming you're going to make it possible to invoke a custom Google map that works the same way the map function works on the iPhone and will display icons representing notes that are geotagged within the map that's currently displayed. That functionality would be quite useful, since Evernote doesn't currently have it. Beyond that, the usefulness of any specific implementation of proximity searches will depend on what the script does. If you're going to allow a user to search for a geographic location, and then display those notes that are geotagged within the map that corresponds to that location, then a selectable search radius is probably more hassle than it's worth, since the Google maps interface makes zooming in and zooming out extremely easy. My inclination would be to select an intermediate view that covers a neighborhood (e.g., a mile by a mile) and let the user use the Google interface to adjust it from there. If you're thinking about providing some other functionality, you're going to have to describe it further. Incidentally, there are two functions that I would love to see in a Google maps-Evernote script. First, it would be quite useful to be able to easily translate between an address and the coordinates accepted by Google maps, and required by the Evernote interface. I can imagine a script that prompts the user for an address, passes that address to Google maps and displays the resulting map. If the address corresponds to a single unique location, the script could ask the user if this is the desired location, and, if so, create a note with the longitude and latitude coordinates passed back by Google as corresponding to that address. If the address does not correspond to a single location (i.e., address is ambiguous), the script could display the query screen used by Google to parse ambiguous requests, allow the user to choose among the options based on the Google maps interface, then display the result chosen and translate that to longitude/latitude coordinates as described above. Similarly, it would also be nice to allow a user to do the same thing based on clicking on a location in a Google map. Less complicated in that there's no need to worry about ambiguous locations, but probably more complicated (I think) in that it requires the script to interact a bit more with Google maps. Second, and more ambitious, it would be very cool to have a script that would create a geotagged note based on an address in a web site or document. The user could, for example, be prompted to highlight an address within the text, and the script could proceed as above. So, if the user were reading restaurant reviews, he or she could decide that a particular restaurant was worth trying, then invoke the script, which would call Evernote, import the review (probably using the clipper function), identify the address (either automatically or by having the user highlight it), then map the address as described above, and automatically create a note. This would, for example, allow the user to easily create a notebook of restaurants to try that could be pulled up and mapped on an iPhone when the user is in a particular neighborhood.
  5. Absolutely. I just finished telling someone in the general forum how to do this. It requires seven steps, none of which would be necessary if Evernote allowed location information to be entered using address as well as longitude/latitude. The Google maps API accepts either format.
  6. This is definitely possible on the iPhone, which uses google maps as its default mapping app. (I can't comment about other mobile clients, though I assume some similar functionality exists). Notes created on the iPhone are automatically geotagged, and from the notes list there is a button that allows you to display the notes on the map. They show up as colored ovals with numbers indicating how many notes each corresponds to (which depends on how far the map is zoomed in or zoomed out). The Evernote map view includes a button that allows you to center the map on your current position, so it's easy to pull up a map showing those restaurants that are geographically near to where you are. If you use Evernote for anything other than restaurants, you should probably create a notebook for restaurants, and then use the advanced search capability to look just at that notebook, since that way the map will only show those restaurants that are nearby, and won't show other geotagged notes. This works reasonably well and it's quite easy if you create each note at the restaurant corresponding to that note, since each note will then automatically be geotagged with the location of the restaurant. There are, however, a couple of problems, relating to problems with Evernote and/or the iPhone. I've developed work-arounds for those, though whether or not they're worthwhile will depend on how obsessive you are about this. First, the iPhone interface is generally not very good in terms of adding information to notes. I like to include the following in my restaurant notes: when I was there, with whom, what I ordered, and comments on the food, service, etc. I also like to put in a link to the restaurant's website and/or a review site, plus a picture of the restaurant, which may help me remember the place if I haven't been there for a while. Having this kind of information immediately available when you're in a particular location trying to figure out where to eat is quite useful. It is difficult and in some cases impossible to enter this type of information directly into a note on the iPhone. So I either create or edit the restaurant notes on my Mac, at most starting with a note consisting of a picture or some basic information entered from the iPhone. The second issue relates to the geotagging information associated with a particular note. If a note is created anywhere other than at the restaurant (e.g., on your computer at home), it won't have correct location information for the restaurant. In addition, even for notes created at the restaurant, the geotagging is often off, sometimes by a block or more. I believe this results from a combination of imperfect GPS on the iPhone (at least in some places), plus the way Evernote stores the IPhone GPS information (generally involving truncation of the actual GPS information). In either case, the geographic information is often inaccurate or completely unusable. Unfortunately, Evernote doesn't provide any particularly easy way to add or edit location information. Instead, the only way I know of to do it is as follows (these steps work on a Mac; I assume they would also work on a Windows-based PC but cannot be certain): (1) pull google maps up on the computer browser, and enter the address of the restaurant; (2) press the google maps link button (upper right of the window); (3) click "customize and preview embedded map"; (4) scroll down to box 3 of the custom map popup window, titled "copy and paste this HTML to embed in your web site"; (5) find the longitude and latitude, which will be preceded by "ll=", e.g.: ll=36.224942,-121.759142; (6) copy the first number into the Evernote latitude box, which can be accessed by clicking on "click to set location," if no location has been set, or the pencil button next to the location if a location has been set; (7) copy the second number (including the minus, but without the comma) into the Evernote longitude box. That should get you an accurate location on the Mac Evernote client, and it should show up fairly accurately on the iPhone. (As stated above, I assume this would work on Windows PCs plus the iPhone but have no idea about other mobile devices). This is, of course, a ridiculous number of steps to get accurate geotagging information, but it's the only way I can figure out to get the correct google maps longitude and latitude corresponding to an address. The process would be much, much easier if Evernote would allow location information to be entered using an address, but for now they don't. Conversely, you can live with the sometimes inaccurate GPS information from the iPhone, but that only works if you create the original note at the restaurant itself. Now for the third issue: because of a bug in the Evernote iPhone client, some geographic locations don't display on the map. So you have to actually look at the map on the iPhone to see if your new note even shows up. If it doesn't, you have to edit the latitude and longitude information. Usually it's enough to either add a digit to the end (e.g., add a "1") or increment or decrement the least significant digit of one or the other. Neither of these changes the location in any material way, but these changes often cause the note to suddenly appear on the iPhone map. Why, I don't know; as I say it's a bug. Which I've reported, and it hasn't been fixed, but that's another story.
  7. I believe I've figured this out. If a note is displayed in the search window (the middle window), and if it has a date of "today" or "yesterday," and if the client is left on overnight, the "today" and "yesterday" labels remain unchanged, even though the date has changed. In that condition, any notes that are added show the correct numeric date instead of "today." The date labels update to the correct labels when the client is closed and reopened. Sync'ing doesn't have any effect, nor does merely minimizing the program (I suspect my earlier post was wrong on this point). This was quite irritating for a while, since I added a bunch of notes over a week long period without closing Evernote, so the date labels were almost all wrong in that middle window. Now that I know what's going on, I'll just close the program from time to time.
  8. For what it's worth, after I closed Evernote completely and reopened, a couple of the notes that had previously indicated "today" showed up with their correct dates, but a couple of others still say "today." And, oddly enough, a note that previously showed the date Aug. 6, 2010 changed to "today." Both are correct, of course, but it seems somewhat strange. And, five minutes later, when I checked Evernote again, everything is now displaying correctly. The notes that previously said "today" all now have the correct date. I don't believe I did anything at all, other than minimizing Evernote and then pulling it up again. There's definitely something flaky in the code that displays the "today" label in the middle window. If this recurs, I'll let you know.
  9. I probably didn't explain myself well. On the Mac client, my Evernote client shows three windows. The left window contains a list of attributes that can be searched (e.g., notebooks, date, etc). The middle window shows a group of notes corresponding to the search performed (e.g., all notes in the particular notebook that is highlighted in the left window. The right window shows a single note selected from the middle window. The behavior I'm describing occurs in the middle window, and only in that window. Each note shown in that window includes three elements: a small picture of the note, then below that the title of the note, then below that the date of the note. The notes are ordered based on whatever is checked from a pull down list on the top of the window, but as far as I can tell they always include the picture, the name and the date. My problem is with the date in the middle window. For some notes, this date is correct (e.g., "August 2, 2010.") For other notes, however, this date reads "Today," even though both the original and the last updated fields in the note itself show an earlier date. Moreover, as I mentioned in my original post, a note I created today shows the date as "August 6, 2010," which is correct, but other notes created on earlier days show "today," which is incorrect for those notes, though it would be a correct description of the note created today.
  10. I'm getting confusing displays in the search window. The date that is displayed under the note title indicates "today" for a number of notes that were created several days ago. The date created and date updated fields for the notes are correct (and not today), and the notes are listed in correct date order. Moreover, a date-restricted search works correctly, i.e., if I search for notes created before yesterday the correct notes are shown, and in the correct date order, though the search window display identifes them as having been created "today." The incorrect date display is happening for some, but not all of my notes, and I can't immediately figure out any difference in the notes that may be causing this behavior. Even stranger, a note I created today is correctly displaying as "August 6," which is today's date. Notes created days ago, however, are displaying as "today." So a note actually created today displays with the numeric date, but notes created several days earlier display with "today." More odd behavior: if I check the "date updated" indicator (thereby automatically unchecking "date created") one of the notes changed from the correct date (August 2) to "today." The date created and date updated field for this note both correctly showed Aug. 2. And, after I edited the date updated field for this note to a different date, and then edited it back to August 2, it now correctly displays August 2 when I select "date updated" for the display. This trick doesn't seem to work, however, for other notes. Incidentally, the date displays correctly for these notes on the iPhone. Since everything else about dates appears to correctly use the date fields from the notes themselves, I suspect there's a bug in the way the Mac client assigns the "today" label in the search window.
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