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Interesting. Will re-test when new Wine available from Lucid repository.

Side note. Latest VirtualBox 4.0.2 frequently loses keyboard integration in VM, ie. no keyboard response in VM. I am seeing this at least once a day in XP VM. Problem also seen previously in VB3.2, but frequency seems to have increased. Workaround is to minimize and restore VM window in host. Problem has been reported to VirtualBox.org.

Reran tests using Wine 1.3.11. EN 4.2.1.3716 (Public) already installed. No obvious changes. Check for updates showed no new public releases. Downloaded latest pre-release. EN 4.2.2.3809. Previous recent pre-releases would not install properly. Not specifically a Wine problem as I saw the same sort of problems in Win XP as well. Ran 3809 installer. No problems. Checked "update to pre-release when available" to set up for future auto-update test. Re-ran previous problem tests. No obvious change. Biggest problem is still that EN4+Wine is much to slow for production use. Continue to recommend Virtual Box or Chrome for Linux.

Hmmm. I use native clippers for web pages. e.g. I have FF & Chrome installed in Linux and IE8 & Chrome in the Windows VM. Each browser instance has it's latest stable browser clipper installed. I usually clip to the web and then when required I sync the EN4 windows client. Works for me as most of my browsing is done from Chrome in Linux. I then use a Saved Search (Created since yesterday) in EN4 Win to clean up the clips. I just tested pasting from a Linux app to both VM & Wine EN4 and confirm that it results in paste as text. One workaround is open a new note in the EN web app in a Linux browser and paste to that area. That worked fine in my test with Chrome8 on Ubuntu.

PS: One big advantage of EN4+Wine is screen clipping from Linux directly to Evernote without using intermediate capture. Procedure as follows: -Start EN4 from Wine Menu, desktop icon, etc. -Right click EN4 elephant icon from Wine tray (top right in my Ubuntu Gnome install) -Select Clip Screenshot from context menu. Hot key does not seem to work and you may have to look around for the context menu. -Select clip region as in Windows and voila, clip from arbritary Linux screen region has been added to EN. Of course, the Wine EN has to be synced to propagate the clip to the web and other clients.

Just finished upgrading to Oracle Virtual Box 4.0 which has just hit the Ubuntu Lucid(10.04) contrib repository. This is a fantastic upgrade and recommended for anyone using a Linux host for a Windows guest VM. Some specific improvements I have noticed include: - Substantially reduced CPU load on host - USB devices which were not previously captured now work without a problem, eg. Sansa Clip 2G in MSC mode. Will be interesting to see if my previous iPod Touch upgrade problems have also been fixed. I got iOS 4.2 installed but it was a tad complicated. - Concurrent audio between VMs and host now works without a glitch - EN4 works as before, just faster. I also re-tested EN4 with recently upgraded Wine 1.3.10. Basically same as before, works with same problems as previously noted. Biggest issue continues to be slow response, which is even more obvious when compared to VirtualBox4 host. One more cosmetic problem. In List mode clicking the column headers works to resort the note list, but, the header does not update to show the selected sort order, i.e no up or down diamond appended to column title. Just installed Fedora Core on an old Dell notebook and plan to give Wine+EN4 a test there. Don't expect any substantial differences but worth a try.

Tried to use latest EN4 under Wine to actually accomplish some work. Gave up due to very sluggish response and other problems as noted below. Configuration: EN 4.1.0.3381 Wine 1.3.8 Ubuntu 10.04 Works: Auto update to 3381 worked without a problem. Login & Sync. Evernote WIN/WINE tray icon established. Right click drops down menu. Menu may be in unusual location. Menu items work, including screen clip, but hot keys may fail due to conflict with Ubuntu global hotkey settings. Fails: No list context menu in List Mode. Works in XP. Context menu available in Mixed and Thumbnail modes, however, menu very slow to present. EN crashes if Debug View started in Wine. Was trying to get accurate search timings from debug log. Copy and paste from Chrome 8 loses formatting and mangles UTF-8 characters, e.g. french e acute. Hotkeys. Too many conflicts, eg. Ctrl+Alt+T, and the hotkeys can not be modified in EN4 options. Cosmetic: Left panel items separated by horizontal lines under Wine. No lines in XP.

EN4 does not require any .NET components. As I noted before, it worked on my system with a clean install on Wine 1.3.7 without MSI2. My prior tests were just of the installers so I did not go past EN4 login. I decided to do a fuller test with the Wine 1.3.8 release.

Installed auto-update to Wine 1.3.8 and copied existing EN4.1 database(user.exb) to ~/.wine. Logged in under Wine and ran quick tests of UI. Comparison test of EN4.1 under Wine and Virtual Box XP SP3 showed a few cosmetic differences due to system fonts plus a definite perfomance degradation under Wine. In general searchs ran about 3-5 times slower under Wine than in the VB machine.

Wine 1.3.7 fixed the installer problems without MSI2. As before: - installed on Ubuntu 10.04 from wine PPA repository. - tested up to but not past Evernote login. Install 4.0.2.3126 and auto-upgrade to 3164. owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$ wine Evernote_4.0.2.3126.exe fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented. fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" (nil) 0x33f150 (nil) 0x33f154 0x33f148 - stub fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" 0x155b20 0x33f150 0x140600 0x33f154 0x33f148 - stub fixme:sxs:cache_QueryAssemblyInfo 0x192730, 0x00000001, L"Microsoft.VC90.CRT, version=9.0.30729.4148, publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b, processorArchitecture=x86", 0x33fa00 fixme:sxs:cache_QueryAssemblyInfo 0x192730, 0x00000001, L"policy.9.0.Microsoft.VC90.CRT, version=9.0.30729.4148, publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b, processorArchitecture=x86", 0x33fa00 err:msi:ACTION_CallDllFunction Custom action (L"C:\\users\\owyn\\Temp\\msi32de.tmp":L"ExitEvernoteApplications") caused a page fault: c0000005 fixme:msi:msi_unimplemented_action_stub MsiUnpublishAssemblies -> 2 ignored L"MsiAssembly" table values fixme:msi:ITERATE_CreateShortcuts poorly handled shortcut format, advertised shortcut owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$ fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter 4a 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c03f 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04e 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c050 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04f 00000001 err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} could be created for context 0x1 fixme:exec:SHELL_execute flags ignored: 0x00004100 fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented. fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" (nil) 0x33f150 (nil) 0x33f154 0x33f148 - stub fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" 0x13b500 0x33f150 0x155bc8 0x33f154 0x33f148 - stub fixme:sxs:cache_QueryAssemblyInfo 0x183018, 0x00000001, L"Microsoft.VC90.CRT, version=9.0.30729.4148, publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b, processorArchitecture=x86", 0x33f9b0 fixme:sxs:cache_QueryAssemblyInfo 0x183018, 0x00000001, L"policy.9.0.Microsoft.VC90.CRT, version=9.0.30729.4148, publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b, processorArchitecture=x86", 0x33f9b0 err:msi:ACTION_CallDllFunction Custom action (L"C:\\users\\owyn\\Temp\\msi3ca6.tmp":L"ExitEvernoteApplications") caused a page fault: c0000005 fixme:msi:msi_unimplemented_action_stub MsiUnpublishAssemblies -> 2 ignored L"MsiAssembly" table values fixme:msi:ITERATE_CreateShortcuts poorly handled shortcut format, advertised shortcut fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter 4a 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c03f 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04e 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c050 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04f 00000001 err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} could be created for context 0x1 fixme:richedit:ME_HandleMessage EM_SETMARGINS: stub Install stand-alone 3274 (which includes remove of 3164). owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$ wine Evernote_4.1.0.3274.exe fixme:exec:SHELL_execute flags ignored: 0x00000100 fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented. fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" (nil) 0x33e900 (nil) 0x33e904 0x33e8f8 - stub fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" 0x13b420 0x33e900 0x155ae8 0x33e904 0x33e8f8 - stub fixme:sxs:cache_QueryAssemblyInfo 0x1928f0, 0x00000001, L"Microsoft.VC90.CRT, version=9.0.30729.4148, publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b, processorArchitecture=x86", 0x33f1b0 fixme:sxs:cache_QueryAssemblyInfo 0x1928f0, 0x00000001, L"policy.9.0.Microsoft.VC90.CRT, version=9.0.30729.4148, publicKeyToken=1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b, processorArchitecture=x86", 0x33f1b0 fixme:msi:ControlEvent_SpawnWaitDialog Doing Nothing err:msi:ACTION_CallDllFunction Custom action (L"C:\\users\\owyn\\Temp\\msi7b28.tmp":L"ExitEvernoteApplications") caused a page fault: c0000005 fixme:msi:msi_unimplemented_action_stub MsiUnpublishAssemblies -> 2 ignored L"MsiAssembly" table values fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented. fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" (nil) 0x33f150 (nil) 0x33f154 0x33f148 - stub fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" 0x15b140 0x33f150 0x15b788 0x33f154 0x33f148 - stub fixme:msi:ControlEvent_SpawnWaitDialog Doing Nothing err:msi:ACTION_CallDllFunction Custom action (L"C:\\users\\owyn\\Temp\\msia338.tmp":L"ExitEvernoteApplications") caused a page fault: c0000005 fixme:msi:ITERATE_CreateShortcuts poorly handled shortcut format, advertised shortcut owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$ fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter 4a 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c03f 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04e 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c050 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04f 00000001 err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} could be created for context 0x1 fixme:richedit:ME_HandleMessage EM_SETMARGINS: stub owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$

1.3.6 plus msi2 did not fix the remove software problem. As this was the only usage of Wine on this system I am going to remove everything, including ~/.wine and do a clean retest when the 1.3.7 package is available.

Interested to hear your results, I'm on the 1.3.6 branch. Just finishing switch to devel. Latest package in PPA is still 1.3.6 but I expect that should change soon. Holding off on 1.3.7 test until package released. I just added one week follow-up to my calendar. Planning to test "winetricks msi2" with 1.3.6 to see if that fixes the remove software problem. This is of interest but not a high priority to me. EN4's lower footprint and better performance works very well in the VB machine and I use Chrome + Web on my other systems. I am down to 3 applications that do not have either direct or equivalent Linux apps (Evernote, Media Monkey and iTunes) and they are all installed in the VB machine on this system plus a few other Windows environment apps (CCleaner, Process Explorer, etc.). I also tested Nevernote a while back but decided to stick with the Evernote "native" UI. I got root-kitted on my only remaining Windows system a while back and decided to go this route instead of re-installing Vista or upgrading to Win7.

Got 3164 standalone exe and confirmed your reported problems. Specifically. - Can not update from standalone when previous version of EN installed. - Can not use "wine control" etc to remove installed EN application. Will retest with latest devel (Wine 1.3.7). Noticed comment in release note "Better support for installers with assemblies.".

OK. I re-read the initial report and re-tested using check for updates in 3151 under Wine to update to 3162. The Temp\Evernote.msi was downloaded but the install did not complete. Expect that getting a copy of the 3162 installer exe will avoid the problem.

Could not reproduce MSI problem. Distro: Ubuntu 10.04 fully updated. Wine: 1.2.1 (Latest stable from Wine repository) Installer: Evernote_4.0.2.3151.exe Note: First install of Evernote under Wine. My VB XP SP3 machine is working fine. Ran test up to but not past Evernote login. Console log follows: owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$ wine Evernote_4.0.2.3151.exe fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" (nil) 0x33f160 (nil) 0x33f164 0x33f158 - stub fixme:advapi:LookupAccountNameW (null) L"owyn" 0x143c20 0x33f160 0x143b68 0x33f164 0x33f158 - stub err:msi:ACTION_CallDllFunction Custom action (L"C:\\users\\owyn\\Temp\\msi362a.tmp":L"ExitEvernoteApplications") caused a page fault: c0000005 fixme:msi:msi_unimplemented_action_stub MsiUnpublishAssemblies -> 2 ignored L"MsiAssembly" table values fixme:msi:ITERATE_CreateShortcuts poorly handled shortcut format, advertised shortcut fixme:mscoree:LoadLibraryShim (0x683a9dec L"fusion.dll", (nil), (nil), 0x33f938): semi-stub owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$ fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter 4a 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c042 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c045 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c050 00000001 fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c04f 00000001 err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {6bf52a52-394a-11d3-b153-00c04f79faa6} could be created for context 0x1 owyn@owyn-ub1004:/media/Data/Data/Applications/Win XP SP3/Installed/Evernote$

One additional note. I was having a lot of problems with errors in EN Web in FF3.6 under various distros. Switched my default browser to Chrome 6 on my primary Ubuntu 10.04(fully updated) system and have seen only one instance of an error since switching. I still have FF3.6 available due to 1 extension (DownThemAll) which has no equivalent in Chrome. I use the EN Win under VB installs to do my typically weekly maintenance and cleanup of my EN database (e.g. untagged notes) and for some regular screen clipping from IE8. The web interface is certainly usable for clipping pages and selections, but, just does not meet the bill for more complicated db maintenance.

Installed EN4 Win in parallel with EN3.5 in Virtual Box XP SP3 machine. Imported 3.5 database to 4.0. See my signature for exact versions in use. Database has about 3100 notes. Ran quick tests of browsing, search, note editing, sync and clipping(from screen and IE8). Speed seems equivalent to 3.5 without any formal testing. Certainly fast enough to be usable. Noticed some problems with imported Saved Search but that may be UI changes and SOE(Stupid Operator Error). I need to read through this forum to catch up on EN4 UI and functions before I try EN4 under Wine. My guess is that I will see the slowdown reported by other users. Need experience with EN4 UI before I will recognize EN4+Wine UI artifacts.

I have been avoiding EN 4 Win as I have enough other alligators biting me a the moment. However, my primary system is UB10.04 with a Virtual Box(Non-Free) seamless VM for XP SP3 with EN 3.5(plus a couple of other Win only apps that are not clean under Wine). Other than re-mapping the PrintScreen function to Win+P (to avoid Ubuntu global hotkey) it has been working like a charm. Close to native Win speed as I have all EN files in the virtual disk and EN3.5 seldom maxs the single core that the VM is allowed. Just added a todo to install latest Wine and EN4 to see how it feels. I am planning to hold off on upgrading the XP VM to EN4 until it is a bit more stable. Hmmm. I could also clone the XP SP3 virtual machine to test EN4 and see if there are any obvious differences. Later.