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  1. Ian, I am very happy to hear that this shortcoming of EN will be dealt with. I have been monitoring this thread for literally years because a folder hierarchy is critical to my using it as a mainstream app. I am just not interested in the tag workarounds repeatedly proposed by the fanboys. As far a a use case, here is one of mine: I travel quite a bit. Root folder would be <travel> with multiple children <trip>. Each <trip> would have children like <accommodations>, <flight info>, <itineraries>, <expense receipts>, etc. Right now my use
  2. Well, "if it is what it is," then why in the world would they set up a forum to collect enhancement requests? Your selection of a quotation to back up your position is either ignorant or duplicitous. Either way I think it's quite funny. Then next sentence following the one you cherry-picked is: "Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw
  3. Please keep us posted on this. I looked at Nimbus and it seems attractive, but as we all know the best software in the world is the stuff we just bought and have not yet installed. Nimbus claims an Evernote import function, too. I'd be interested to hear from anyone that has tried it. I like the Evernote concept but the lack of a folder hierarchy has kept it out of my mainstream work. I just use it as a sort of trash can for random things that I might want to find some day. These elaborate workarounds for its architectural deficiency have no attraction to me, no matter how many times DTl
  4. @TonyMontanaSlot, it is important that you understand that @DTLow must approve your need or it does not exist. He is the self-appointed guardian of Truth and Light. His position is that if a use case can be met by workarounds using tags, no matter how complicated and baroque, then the problem is with the user and not with Evernote. I've been watching this thread for years, waiting for the announcement that Evernote has finally grasped the obvious. No luck so far.
  5. Having watched this thread for literally years, there is always the same scenario: Someone (like me) comes in asking for nested folders, a paradigm that has been common in computing for decades. Basically a no-brainer. Responses are of two types: (1) Explanations of why the user shouldn't want nested folders or doesn't need them. (2) Elaborate and somewhat opaque workarounds where the tagging system can be bent to serve the need. Maybe 6 months ago there was a post by an Evernote guy that implied that nested folders were in the works for at least the premium business version
  6. Yeah. Agreed. I don't know which is more impressive, his arrogance or the amount of free time he has available to spend on posting the same comments, over and over. and over. and over. Re "I am not interested in boohoo posts." Is that also a requirement , that your highness be interested in every post? Or that someone cares whether you are interested or not? ROFL.
  7. Maybe I missed reading the rule book. Are others required to prove to you that their viewpoints are valid? FWIW I am not seeing any proof here that your endlessly repeated tag workarounds to the folder problem are anything but that: workarounds. And clumsy ones at that.
  8. "There is a need for notebook hierarchy. We're working on it." Hallelujah! Thank you, Leo. I knew there was a reason I remained to subscribed to this apparently-fruitless thread all these years. "We're first starting with Spaces as the highest level container, and have intentions to add layers down - we recognize that hierarchy is important, especially for teams (it's almost impossible to find something someone else has added if you don't allow for some level of organization). We're also looking into how we can bring Spaces into non-business tiers. These changes aren't easy
  9. " A new element Spaces is currently being rolled out. " Quite funny, actually. Now they have a three-level limited on nested folders instead of just two. Maybe in a few months they will invent a four-level hierarchy, etc. Clearly they know this lack of folder hierarchy is a problem, but they persist in adding kludges instead of just biting the bullet and doing what they should have done in the first place. The underlying code must be a such a gawdawful mess that they don't dare touch it. I mostly use Evernote for random web clips. Anything that needs organization stays either in
  10. @SirPPingTon, what you are discovering is something that many of us have long since discovered: A request for nested folders here elicits two classes of responses. First, there are people who explain in great detail that tags are a workaround for the application's deficient design. Second, there are responses from fan-boys and Evernote employees to the effect that the application does not have nested folders and that Evernote has never shown the slightest inclination to fix the problem, so you can just forget about it. Neither class of responders has the slightest interest in the merits o
  11. ROFL. Excellent metaphor. I've been watching and occasionally contributing to this thread for quite a while and the paradigm is pretty standard. (1) Someone comes in asking for nested folders. (2) One or more EN zealots, DTLow always among them, come in to browbeat the poster for wanting this and to explain in excruciating detail how tags can be used as a workaround. (3) If the poster attempts to explain that folders have been a standard in computing for years and it is nearly brain-dead for a filing system to not support them, then the zealots attempt to drive him away. Re an earlie
  12. A couple of amusing things I notice about the zealots who unfailingly arrive to attack posts requesting conventional folders: 1) They say the same things over and over, in old posts and new ones. Believing that repetition is a debating technique? 2) Frequent ad hominem attacks. i.e., "They can't adjust ... " 2) Unfailing arrogance, assuming that they are qualified to speak for all users . i.e., "We don't need ... " I am too old to know everything, but it is a stage that most of us, but not all, outgrew in our 20s.
  13. I''ll agree with obstinate but I'm not so sure about zealot. Granted there is a suffocating lot of fan-boy zealots that attack anyone broaching the idea of hierarchical folders, but from many years in technology development my guess is that reliance on tags was an architectural decision made very early in the product's life that now underpins the whole contraption. In the beginning, people usually have an idea of where a product is going and that idea usually turns out to be wrong. So as user behavior veered away from the expectations of the developer, some of the initial architectural deci
  14. Quite a funny post, actually. You betray your lack of experience with databases. Well over 20 years ago there was Lotus Agenda, which was actually quite an interesting piece of software with tag-like features. It failed miserably in the marketplace. (Wikipedia: " New users confronted with so much flexibility were often overpowered by the steep learning curve required to use the program." Sound familiar?) "A recent advancement" ?? Hardly. Long prior to computers, there were card systems where the edges of the cards listed all possible tags (maybe 20 depending on the size of the card)
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