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  1. I'm gone. I have used and paid for EN for maybe ten years mostly as a file drawer with minimal organization due to the lack of hierarchical folders. At the same time I've been monitoring the years-long thread of users begging for this basic feature. No longer. This appears to be a classic "harvesting" of a brand. Bending Spoons probably got a pretty good price buying EN's user base. So now they are substantially raising prices knowing that switching costs (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/switchingcosts.asp) for some users are high enough that they will be somewhat sticky. Along with the price increase comes a bunch of BS about their wonderful plans for the brand plus a reduction of investment in the brand to near zero. Then they simply ride the dying horse, probably collecting unearned revenue for years. So, for example, the probability of seeing nested folders has gone from almost zero to almost exactly zero. See you all at https://nimbusweb.me/ . The import process is somewhat tedious and clumsy, but it works. I have a few hundred notes imported already.
  2. I think it's game-over for EN. The code is apparently such a poorly documented mess that for years they have been terrified of touching it with a major improvement like folders. The company has now been sold to an Italian company called "Bending Spoons." There has been the usual chest-thumping but my guess is that it was a desperation sale and Bending Spoons will simply harvest the EN revenue for as long as it is attractive. Then RIP Evernote. There will never be an EN folder system.
  3. I use EN minimally, waiting without hope for nested folders. My guess is that to implement such a feature they would have to rip up and re-do some old code that no one understands and management is afraid to touch. This is not a unique problem here. Many applications were originally written based on expectations that did not materialize and the original code is not well-suited to the market they have found.
  4. The Dunning Kruger effect, synopsized: Those who know the least about a subject are the most certain of their opinions. To an extent, @PinkElephant is probably right. The underlying code is old and Evernote has probably evolved away from it's original design features. It's always a little scary to contemplate major changes to old code. But that said, EN is going to have to bite the bullet some day and slide an SQL database under the UI. When? How? No way of knowing.
  5. So you're not very good with nested folders, hence EN should not offer the option? I have literally hundreds of tools, some of which I use very seldom (Posidrv ***** drivers and Whitworth wrenches, for example.) That does not mean that I think they should not be sold. I am just not that arrogant.
  6. And users are somehow obligated to convince you? You are the Grand Poobah? Perhaps you are simply not smart enough to understand. That would be my conjecture.
  7. Oh, wise one, please enlighten us about these simple facts. Possibly you can save the world from its abysmal ignorance. Also, please tell us how you manage to remain so humble given your obvious superiority to mere users.
  8. It must be quite a burden to be smarter than everyone else. But being so smart, it is a little surprising that you didn't notice that @Bluamasyu didn't actually ask for opinions on whether he needs hierarchical folders or not. But that is the way it goes here. Newbie says he needs hierarchical folders, one or two fanboys* jump in to tell him he does not, then one of them offers an ugly workaround that he believes solves the problem. Then the fanboys lay in wait until the next person requests the feature. Silly, really, that I have been subscribed to this thread for years. Childlike faith, I guess, that EN product architects will finally recognize the marketing value of offering a product that is not as crippled as this one is. *Second fanboy, the irrepressible DTLow jumped in as I was typing. ROFL.
  9. @denysoft, Evernote has been refusing to implement this feature for over a decade. Apparently they sell enough software into their niche that they don't care about attracting a wider user base. We are wasting out time even asking, as the response from EN zealots is always the same: a workaround using tags. I continue to subscribe to this thread just in case lightning strikes, but without hierarchical folders EN will continue, for me, to be just a handy place for web clips.
  10. No need to worry about him. I think he the basic three or four of his posts on speed dial. (1) Although I don't know anything about your situation, I am sure that you do not need nested folders. (2) Here is an ugly and clumsy workaround for the lack of nested folders. (3) .... and so on.
  11. Pictures I don't want. "Widgets" I don't want. And if I want to un-***** my screen I have to pay for the privilege? That is a creatively obnoxious way to drive users away. Including me and my $/year. For now, I am going for an older version: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314-Install-an-older-version-of-Evernote Longer term, if this egregious marketing gouge is not fixed, I am history.
  12. EN: How do I regress to an "update" that works?
  13. Were you reminded of that attitude when you looked in the mirror? It's really tedious monitoring this thread (for years) to see the fan-boys explain over and over why those of us who need folders actually don't, then present baroque workarounds. Keep your tags and eschew folders. Fine with me. There's no reason to ditch tags but these is ample reason to add folders. It's been discussed before but my guess is that the oft-patched EN legacy code never anticipated how EN would be used but that the company is afraid to march into that swamp and try to make major changes. The owners of EN are not stupid; they probably wish that the had folders for marketing reasons alone and regret the constraints keeping them from doing it. So, I use EN primarily as a repository for web clips and maintain a weak hope that it will be made more useful to me someday.
  14. This new release is really a train wreck. In addition to the egregious "update" pop-up: every time my Microsoft Surface wakes up, Evernote muscles its way in and takes the full screen. This regardless of whether it was running at the time or not. Even simple stuff, like the right click no longer brings up options for a notebook, is broken. There is a concept in software development called "regression testing." I guess the developers are having so much fun writing new code that they are leaving this to users. Where/how do I regress to a version that actually works?
  15. Well I have the problem but have not found a way to turn it off either. I have disabled Evernote from the startup file. No joy. It does not seem to have anything running as a service, so how does it even wake up? Another annoying problem is that when my Microsoft Surface 6 Win10 wakes, there is Evernote occupying the full screen. Every time! ?!!!?! %##&#^# Ver 10.5.7 build 2171
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