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you can't turn it off, but if you right click on the link and choose "open in new tab" or "open in new window" (or Ctrl-click) it goes directly to that page.

Notion has apps for win and mac. frankly, i tried the apps and saw no reason to use them instead of the browser version since the data is still not local. otherwise, Notion is fine for me (i migrated from EN after the price increase).

Notion has no offline mode, so the OS doesn't really matter.

i moved to Notion and canceled the renewal so i got put on the free plan and started receiving one year offers at 60% of the price (too late).

@fuchsfr RE your chart, are you sure Notion can't save searches?

It looks like EN has started copying Notion features (the smart slash e.g.) so perhaps links to sections of a note are also on the table.

That's key. Each of us uses a subset of EN features and cares mainly about those. Sometimes a new feature comes in and we adopt or ignore it. For me, for example, the features I use to price ratio has become too low to continue with EN.

Don't make up stuff. In Notion when you type http:// you can pause all you want after the first slash, it won't pop the menu.

I now see that Notion is smart enough not to pop up the menu when you type http:// or https:// if EN wants to emulate this, they should make it ease to use (and offer disabling it for those who want their EN note taking to continue undisturbed as they are used to)

haven't tried it in EN, but in Notion if you hit esc the menu disappears and you keep just the slash.

I migrated to Notion not long ago. The / was pretty disconcerting in the beginning, but by now I got used to it and put it to good use.

That's true, tho probably not for everyone. For me all the core features that I need are in the free version of Notion and so far I didn't even find the much maligned Notion search to be so bad. The biggest downside is the absence of offline capabilities, but for me this is only a redundancy issue, I haven't been using local EN for the last year or so anyway.

Notion webclipper sucks But Save to Notion saves the day.

for Notion see here

Yet another lame aspect of the Notion global search: can't search by tags (I don't consider this BS about creating a global tags database a "solution", more like pushing backend development work onto the user).

So a week after I downgraded my EN to the free plan, I got an offer to renew at 60% off. Several weeks before I started looking for EN alternatives I had emailed their customer support expressing my dissatisfaction with the price increase and intention to discontinue the paid plan. I never heard back, but had they replied with this offer I probably would have taken them up on it. Now it's too late, I've already committed to Notion.

As of today I am on the free plan in Evernote, my 4000+ notes and several dozen notebooks are now in Notion.

i've recently imported a few dozen stacks and notebooks from EN into Notion. it took a while, because if you try to import too much the Notion importer doesn't finish the job. but in the end i was able to import all me 4000+ notes and everything looks good (some of the bullets in bullet lists appear as checkboxes after the import; i like it in recipes and to do lists :-----) for the rest i change it if i ever get to that note again)

nice. and with Tailored Notion i also got the text and font to look like i want it.

thank you @ferol for improving and updating the EN vs Notion comparison list in your first post. your "winner by color" is interesting (of course, my choices would be different). one thing i want to mention: you can change the font size in Notion, but in a limited way (Small, Medium, Large) however, you cannot change the font itself. i see this as a problem, since the default font color is not black but a dark gray which makes text look washed out compared to EN.

thanks for the demonstration, restoring from Notion backup seems like a solution for the desperate indeed.

why desperate? i tried the export-import for a couple pages so far. it imports back fine, but loses certain things, like toggle lists (the content is preserved, but it's a bulleted list, not a toggle any more). i have exported all my notion workspace and will test the import soon.

I haven't had any issues with offline EN on Android. To my mind, the lack of offline capabilities is a significant strike against Notion, especially on the desktop where EN is solid. Granted, sync is a difficult nut to crack, but in the current international climate the threat of major internet disruptions has grown to a level that makes me nervous having all my notes online with only manual ability to back them up.

thanks @ferol for updating the spreadsheet. last night i tried UpNote. very nice, light and good looking, just notes. reminded me of the EN of old. imports EN well, but not at the stack level like Notion. cheap. in the end tho, if a company doesn't have dragging notebooks into notebooks and a web-based client as priorities, i can't go with them.

it is not tragic it is what it is. in the end i want to move away from EN to something where i can stay as long as i stayed on EN (24 years).