stephen_bradley

I'm not a fan on the new Evernote and have mostly migrated out of it, but this is not the current state of the software in general. Something specific is going on, on your system. I'm running it - albeit less and less, but still - on 4 systems (2 Mac, 2 Windows) and it's stable. Several other people in the office are running it without serious problems as well.

Not trying to dissuade you, just wanted to let you know. If you liked it in every other way, the instability you're experiencing is probably fixable.

Edit: bizarre typos

Maybe this is one of those things that did not make it into this version, but just in case it isn't: Spotlight no longer turns up Evernote notes as results for me.

Evernote is turned on a search location.

Nice redesign, I think its a good overall advancement.

On 7/4/2019 at 10:56 AM, Jeremye said:

Have you look at Omnifocus? It's pretty much the Big Kahuna in terms of task managers, and it has relaxed some of its opinions of how things should work  in version 3. 

I did, and I liked it a lot. I did not stay with it because it is SO complex, and I have a tendency to get sucked into the small details of managing my tasks, rather than executing them.Things is much simpler, and it prevents me from being bogged down in all the possibilities. 

The next version of Apple Reminders might actually replace Things for me, if they make a couple of small tweaks. 

On 7/2/2019 at 5:52 PM, PinkElephant said:

 

So crying to leave EN NOW because they could go belly up one day is like committing suicide because of being afraid to be dead one day.

 

My concern about Evernote have nothing to do with it going "belly up". My concerns are that the software has, for me at least, become less stable over time. 

Issues that came up with the release of MacOS last year are *still not resolved* this year, as we approach *another* macOS release that will undoubtably bring more issues with Evernote. The iOS client lacks what I would consider to be some basic features (tried to add a column to a table, for example?) and the web client, which is actually pretty nice, is laggy and inconsistent on a latest model iPad Pro.

If one is not happy with what he gets, he should leave NOW for a better solution - it does not matter if EN is still around in a hundred of years, if it does not match my needs.

I keep using EN because it is STILL the most powerful overall application of its kind. DevonThink is terrible for the kind of notes I take, despite being pretty well rounded otherwise. OneNote has the worst sync client of any of them, Notion needs a lot of evolution (despite its design being undeniably powerful). That doesn't mean that I can't also be concerned/annoyed/whatever when the software does not seem to improve, despite continually costing money.

I'm not sure why there is so much defensiveness around the platform. It has problems, there isn't any treason in admitting that.

On 6/21/2019 at 9:30 AM, DTLow said:

Same for me, and most of my taks only require a due date and completion status/date
This is handled by the Evernote product

There have been a few projects/tasks that required heavy duty project management tools

>>I'm fickle and change apps a lot

I keep an eye on the alternates, but am not willing to spend the time or resources to "change apps a lot"

The only reason I stopped using Evernote for task management was that I got hooked on Things 3. Its (for me) much faster to enter and organize my tasks, and more importantly re-organize them (dragging them into new orders as things change) which happens quite a bit because I'm handling multiple very different roles at once. 

I'm still looking for my next evolution beyond Things though, because it has some limitations that annoy me.

On 6/21/2019 at 9:17 AM, PinkElephant said:

I do a lot of experiments before I decide, read comments etc. But when I have decided, I tend to stick with an app. I found it very time consuming to switch apps over time, and you drive yourself crazy if you try to handle one single / simple task by several apps at once.

I'm one of those geeks that really enjoys trying out new systems, methods, and software. Sometimes I have 3 different systems in play at one time. Right now I'm managing projects/notes/files using Evernote, Notion, and a simple directory structure with markdown files on OneNote. When I'm done with Notion, I'm going to move on to Devonthink since version 3 is available in beta. For to-dos, I'm using Microsoft To-Do, Things 3, and the new Apple Reminders (beta).

I just really like tinkering, and luckily the nature of my job allows for it. But I'm also genuinely worried about the future of Evernote; for me its gotten less stable + more buggy in the last year. Problems that started with the last release of macOS & iOS are still not fixed, as we rapidly approach the next release.

By trying out lots of different methodologies, I'm hoping to be prepared for a smooth transition if things are as bad as I currently expect them to be this fall.

On 6/14/2019 at 3:20 AM, PinkElephant said:

@RaeveMy combination is Evernote for the filing, and Things 3 for the follow up / task planning (Mac and iOS only).

When you create an external link from an EN note, you can share this directly into a Things note, where it will added to the „notes“-area of the task. The task can be handled completely normal, including repetitive reminders, start dates, deadlines, assignment to a project etc.

The original note is always just one click on the embedded link away. This is what it looks like after a link was shared into the Things INBOX (mmmh, planning to bake a cake  😇 )  

 

 

That's what I do too. Most of my tasks do not need complex notes or attachments, but when they do this is best way that I've found to do handle them. 

Best part is that this method is transferable to the task management app of your choice, which is important for me because I'm fickle and change apps a lot.

The web clipper is now completely broken in the Safari Preview. Apple seems to have blocked all extensions that do not originate either in an app (for example the ToDoist extension) or the App Store. If you go to the Evernote web clipper download page, there is no longer any option to install it. If it is already installed, Safari notifies you that it has been disabled, and it cannot be re-enabled.

This happened in the last Preview build (12.1 I believe), is still true in 12.2 (Release 83), and I expect it to go live in the next version of MacOS. I certainly hope Evernote is working on getting their clipper either integrated with the application, or on the App Store before then...

Don't know if you solved this, but I experimented with Bear and came to the same conclusion you did. I ended up on Notion as a replacement, btw.

Here's how I moved my notes from Bear to Evernote when I decided Bear wasn't ready for prime time. 

I selected the notes I needed to move, and exported them as HTML files. Opened EN, and dragged the HTML files into a folder in EN. Evernote won't let you import from the File > Import menu, except for .enex files, but if you drag the HTML file into a folder it will read it and import it. Everything came across for me.

If you have images/attachments in Bear, you have to remember to click the "Export Attachments" option when exporting the notes. That will create a folder for your attachments, Evernote will follow the links in HTML to import them.

2 hours ago, jackmcguire said:

For All with the same web clipper problem:  I just got this from a higher-level tech:

"It looks like you have the "Prevent cross-site tracking" option selected which will prevent the Clipper from functioning by design. To resolve this issue, please de-select the "Prevent cross-site tracking" option."

This definitely, unequivocally worked!, after many, many back-and-forth emails & web searchings.  Give it a try, and good luck!

That confuses me. 

Ive had the cross-site blocking option turned on for a long as it's been an option. It's on now.The clipper works perfectly for me and installs without an issue as long as I get it from Safari Extensions page. Glad it worked for you all the same.

3 hours ago, lometogo said:

I received a message that Safari no longer supports EN Clipper

It does. Perhaps just not in the way you were installing it. See the messages above yours.

Go to the Safari extensions website and install it from there: 

https://safari-extensions.apple.com/details/?id=com.evernote.safari.clipper-Q79WDW8YH9

Glad it worked out @steveb14. Interestingly, I am not having a problem with it in private windows either. Gotta be some additional setting or messed up .plist.

I'm not a fan of serif fonts either. I've got literally everything that can be set, set to sans-serif fonts (IBM Plex Sans is my current favorite for general-purpose screen usage).

I'm probably wrong, but I think it's been largely shown that serif fonts are easier to read (at least, in printed form) because the shapes are more distinct, and that's probably why it is the default for the "reader"-type view. But I'd be much happier being able to choose my own. I guess I'll submit that as a feature request. There really isn't a need for it to be hard-coded, the clipper should be able to access the application preferences and use the fonts we've chosen.

So, at least in my experience, the web clipper ignores the font selection in Evernote itself. The font choices in the application only affect what you type yourself.

If you clip a page as "Article" it uses the fonts from the web page. If I clip an article from CNN, the fonts are a sans-serif, 18pt font that Evernote calls "CNN".

But if you clip in "Simplified Article" mode, it uses a reader view, where the font changes to a Serif font, presumably because it was decided that was an easier font to read.

As far as I know, this behavior is hard-coded and cannot be set by preference.

For what it's worth, which is probably very little, the clipper works for me on 10.14.0 and now 10.14.1 (currently build 18B67a) without issue, on two iMacs and a new MBP. It works on both Safari 12.0.1 (14606.2.104.1.1) and Technology Preview Release 67 (Safari 12.1)

I only mention that to suggest that the problem is more likely to be some local configuration issue or messed up preference file rather than an overall broken extension.

It might be worthwhile to create a new account on your Mac and see if the clipper will work from there. That would narrow the problem down to a configuration issue, probably in Safari. Or you could just completely reset Safari on your live profile, but that might be extreme.

14 hours ago, Vladislav Krakhalev said:

Why you love this app? It wastes time, because you need every time do cut-paste action. Idea is good, as some functions, but cut-paste .. 

Love is a strong word. I like the app because it lets me do two things that were harder to do before:

1. Write in markdown and get it into Evernote

2. Highlight code. A LOT of my notes are code. 

Previously I've used both Marxico and the EverMonkey extension for VS Code to handle my markdown/code highlighting needs, and they both work superbly for me. My issue with them though, is that they "lock" the note so it cannot be edited in Evernote any more, which is sometimes really inconvenient. This app lets me get my highlighting and/or markdown into Evernote without having to leave Evernote, and without making the note non-editable.

Bonus: pre-defined text styles which I've always wanted Evernote to do. Its the only thing OneNote does that I like better than Evernote. I suppose it's a redundant feature if I'm using Markdown, but I'm not always using Markdown.

The mechanism is not awesome, but it works. If you have a better solution for accomplishing the same things, I'd be interested in exploring it.

This is pretty good.

I've been using it for about 30 minutes. It covers my most common complaints about the editor (aside from the editor just being buggy); The absence of set styles, and code highlighting. Stays out of way, looks good, works as advertised. 

I have a single complaint or request so far: the fonts you allow me to choose in the styles, none of them are the fonts I actually use. Evernote lets me choose any font on my system, and I'm using the IBM Plex family. But EverTool only gives me a handful of default fonts. 

If a future version could just hook into the Mac font system, same as Evernote does, to display all the fonts available, that would be cool.

Otherwise, great job!

For the last 60 days I've been using every note platform available to me (MacOS/iOS), mostly because I've had it in my head that it's time to abandon EN for a variety of reasons. I've spent a lot of time with OneNote because it's what we use at work so I'm already fully comfortable in it.

I find OneNote's almost literal translation of the notebook concept to be overly complex, and generally a poor use of screen real estate. Syncing is (for me) slower than Evernote and most noticeable in iOS. Searching is worse than Evernote. EN supports more complex searching and tagging and - the big one for me -  OneNote for the Mac does not integrate with Spotligh. So I have to open OneNote to search my notes, where with EN I can use Spotlight and get everything on my computer that matches my search, including the stuff in EN.

It's worth keeping in mind that OneNote storage is limited. If you are using it totally free, e.g. no Office 365 subscription, you are limited by the amount of free space you have OneDrive. You get 5GB for free (right?), but if you've got other things stored on there, you might have considerably less space available for OneNote files. It's not both free & unlimited.  Evernote is limiting you to 60MB of upload per month, but not capping your total storage, which could be better or worse than what MS is offering, depending on your needs. 60MB is a lot of notes, if you aren't regularly including files.

Leanote (http://leanote.org) is rocking exactly the concept that would work for Evernote.

I've been using it on and off during it's development, and it's quite capable with none of the often strange and awful formatting issues Evernote continues to have to this day. Edit and store in markdown, display in rendered HTML. 

I bet they could be bought for a pretty reasonable sum...

For sure, the actual text editor is the worst part of Evernote.

Its gotten to the point where if I need something to be formatted accurately and it's a little complex, I do it in markdown using something like Quiver 3 or Code, then copy/paste the preview text into EV.

Please guys, stop reinventing this particular wheel. Go markdown and free up development time for more interesting things.