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Oh I'm long past caring about preserving legacy TBH. I've all my enex files exported and ready to move on. Just curious as to what will happen. I expect it to go "poof", but in what format I'm not sure. Not long to go now.

A forced logout would be understandable if not controversial!

What will happen though? For legacy users, there'll be no more syncing (as there hasn't been for weeks now) granted. However, will the legacy app simply stop working? Will the editor lock up, or some other blocking of functionality? Or are users "on their own" from that date, still in possession of their (permanently offline) notes? It's that that's not clear to me. If anyone knows please chime in.

Live preview mode in Obsidian is the best of both words - your note appears in lovely read mode everywhere except the block you're actually editing, which appears in the (slightly less appealing) markdown mode.

Obsidian can do OCR, via two plug-ins (Omnisearch and Text Extractor). These let you extract the text to the note or clipboard, which EN has never let you do. Obsidian doesn't handle searching pdf content, AFAIAA, though.

Well initially it starts with asking what platform you're using. In terms of the number of options, I think there are more options similar to Evernote on Mac OS similar apps than on Windows (Mac OS has DevonThink, Bear). I am a Windows user, so my choices are not the same. Nimbus, Notesnook, OneNote are options (although I have ruled all three out)...

As @HeBoIz said, Yarle is more sophisticated than the main Obsidian plugin, which uses Yarle but with defaults that cannot be changed. It's why I'm playing around with Yarle itself; I like its options. I've found that images are not embedded into Obsidian's imported notes on my machine, because by default Yarle uses the Evernote note's title for the new markdown file's filename, and some of my Evernote notes have very long titles. Meaning very long filenames. This means that the images (in a similarly-long resources subfolder) have a path length that's too long for my OS (Windows) and the images can't display! Over 255 total characters will give this problem. (On Windows 10 at least.) I actually remembered this all being far too much hassle when I first looked at Obsidian and Yarle two years ago, and my Evernote notebook stack is massive. Back then I stuck with Evernote legacy. Since then, Obsidian has matured a lot (in many ways far surpassing Evernote's functionality) and this week's dipping my toe into the v10 waters resembled playing footsie with a piranha fish. So I'm going to make this exodus, via Yarle, work.

This is the thing @upnix - I have no real way of determining which notes are bust. Just random spot checks across the 40000+ show that many are. So it's a case of revert to 6, play with exporting options, and probably quit. A real shame.

I hadn't realised that there's no sync button in 10 (not that I could see); maybe the "instasync" is causing issues with my network connection. Anyway, I left it alone for hours. Still many notes broken, yet some notes are perfect (attachments and images intact). I might well have to revert to 6 (thank goodness for backups), but when 6 officially stops syncing, and that might just be weeks away now, I need to think quickly!

Yeah, tempted to contact support on this one. Never used them before (never had to). Big fan of Evernote here, but this has severely dented my confidence. Obviously I could revert to v6, but I'm trying to accept v10 now (despite that non-resizable and immovable search bar though - gah). Web notes have these elements preserved thankfully, and I have an (unsynchronized) v6 database on a different (offline, Windows) machine. This v10 device with the damaged notes is Windows, version is indeed 10.5.8. My Android device shows undamaged notes also. Will upgrade to 10.59 as soon as I can, before contacting support. Thanks for the suggestion and response @gazumped.

With all of the hullabaloo on this forum about the imminent "cancellation" of v6 (and my getting those incessant daily reminders to upgrade - way to go Evernote devs - upgrade through frustration), I finally jumped from v6 to v10 on Windows. All done very carefully - synced v6 up to the cloud, logged off all other clients, installed v10, let it resync while leaving well alone. For hours. Came back and found all sorts of damaged notes - images and attachments missing from within. Good lord. I'm going to try to find what went wrong here, and I have backups, but I'm not going to spend too long; my time will be better spent planning my exit. The v10 interface seems a little better from when I first used it, and I'm sure I could tolerate the differences in time, but I can't trust a service if stuff gets damaged. Maybe it's time to focus on markdown, after all. 16 years, 40,000 notes.

Does v10 have that "dev menu" like legacy? IIRC there was an "optimise database" option, but as @gazumped said that won't compact it.

Which version? Can an Evernote database be compacted?

Out of interest, how has it been eviscerated? Genuine question, as I haven't yet made the leap to v10.

Assumed it would be based on Electron. Thanks for your reply @WilliamL - I'll start looking at Craft again.

@WilliamL - I have been interested in Craft for ages, but until recently it was Mac only. Now it seems there is a Windows version, so I'm interested again. Also it looks like OCR is on its way, so I'm even more interested. Can I ask - have you any experience whether Craft can handle thousands of notes (as I have)?

Every single damn day. Agreed.

Gosh I'm exactly the same, @TheGrudge. This past 18 months, I've been making a concerted effort to shift off Evernote (v10 initially disappointed; v6.x is a ticking clock), and after many (many) hours of looking at alternatives, Obsidian won (Amplenote came very close - I'm PC, so Devon, Craft etc. were out.) I started to use Obsidian, but damnit, Evernote is easier. Quicker. Guess I'm a librarian, too. And I'm thinking I'll take those limited Evernote font choices (v10) over dual pane mark-up Obsidian shenanigans. I want to get into Obsidian, but I just want to make notes, apply simple formatting, and move on. It seems, despite my sticking with v6.x, that Evernote is still the faster workflow. And despite the concerns over the past year, I'm struggling to switch wholesale to Obsidian. Yarle notwithstanding. So I totally get where you're coming from. Right now I'm still - surprisingly still - on Evernote. I've not moved on. And I'm still not yet sure I'll be renewing my Obsidian annual sync sub.

I renewed my legacy premium plan (the discounted one) in May @cfibanez via my recurring PayPal payment. My upgrade offer, which popped up in the Android app, took me through to an immediate subscription within the Play store - meaning I'd be charged the discounted fee (was it $45 ? Can't remember) immediately, followed by the full price $55 in 1 year. So, as I think has been reported elsewhere: - You're billed immediately (irrespective of how much time you've left to run out of your current subscription) - The offer is 1 year - full price thereafter - You might need to cancel your original method of payment (mine's a recurring PayPal payment as I said above) if you inadvertently subscribe via the app store.. I'm sure Evernote wouldn't charge you twice but then again.... For now, then, I'm hanging (clinging) on to legacy premium. But I hope these bloody popups bugger off.

This is great to read, @gazumped, as I am a big "note merger" and it was one of the immediate turn-offs when I trialled v10 last year. If it's in the web interface, might that mean it'll appear in Electron v10 desktop also?

Gosh - still this bad then. Thanks for saving me the time to dip my toes back in those waters. No thanks!! I am the same as you then - 6.25 until either they sort this mess out (growing less and less likely by the month, now), or force us to alternative products, which I still haven't found. 6.25 is still the champ, but I have high hopes for Amplenote, if they just opened up the storage options a bit more.

Closest for me, @Reuven, is Nimbus (although I didn't care for their responses to some technical questions I had for them so I have not jumped) and Amplenote. I'm a Windows user, not Mac, but if you're Mac, there are more, closer, options (Bear, Devon, Craft). I'm after OCR, tagging and unlimited storage (of any filetype). Currently Evernote still only offers all that. (Legacy; I can't use v10 either on Windows or Android, so I'm looking to leave.) Upnote looks interesting. Notesnook looks promising, but (at the developer's own admission), they're not there yet. What's important, as @PinkElephant says, is there are a lot more apps springing up since that megathread over on Reddit. So it really is a case of watch this space, although Evernote have the advantage of maturity (even if they don't know much about software deployment).

As am I - for how long will we have this legacy version though? Their new pricing plans indicate some momentum and they likely don't need us stragglers staying on 6.2x.... Still nothing (yet) to match v 6.25, but for me, the latest Android app is utterly unusable so I am looking to get off Evernote altogether now.

Yes - I use any symbol I tend not to type much, such as hash.

I have a workaround for large notes - I prefix each section title with a hash symbol (pound symbol for American friends) and simply search for that symbol to jump back and forth to each section. Certainly not the same as in-note anchors, but (just) better than nothing.