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Funny, I've been saying this to myself for years but I just can't seem to cut the cord for some reason. Lack of Markdown support is probably not even in my top five reasons. I just wish the bugs that have existed for over a decade would get fixed rather than being called a feature.

Here it is nearly six years after this post and it pains me to say that there still isn't a native way to use a keyboard shortcut to change the font quickly, let alone have there be native markdown support (aside from third party tools like Marxico). I have been a dedicated paying Evernote user for well over a decade and while I still use it for general note-taking I am growing weary of having to get used to the fact that the seemingly obvious features you'd expect in an omnibus notebook tool which users repeatedly ask for are simply getting ignored. The UI continues to be buggy due to what appears to be the way the Evernote editor uses unprintable characters to define formatting and how your prompt can get "ahead" or "behind" this formatting unpredictably. This becomes more painfully apparently when you edit a document with the Web, MacOS and iOS clients and find just how badly jumbled a bullet or numbered lists can become or how frustrating it is that you cannot change the arbitrary line spacing that might get permanently injected into you Evernote document formatting if are not careful and happen to cut and paste from a document that includes them. (The only way to strip this out is to revert the document to plain text and lose all of its formatting as using Simplify Formatting upon some selected text doesn't resolve these problems by and large.) In short, Evernote document formatting seems to be deliberately opaque for the sake of seeming "user friendly" at the expense of usability and predictable formatting behavior across Evernote editors resulting in some very frustrating problems and UI shortcomings, namely the one that is brought up in this post which... again... has not been addressed. The Evernote community is a helpful bunch who span the gamut of users from the highly technical to the highly artistic. The common ground they share is clearly their creativity (along with their need for a notebook solution!) Over the many years, Evernote users have taken it upon themselves to come up with marvelous Evernote extensions where Evernote fails to tread. While many of these extension are marvelous add-ons that clearly extend Evernote function beyond its initial scope (postach.io is a great example) the fact that Marxico has to exist at all speaks to a serious deficiency in Evernote's WYSIWYG editor. It also speaks volumes about the developers who use Evernote (people are constantly finding new and cool ways to extend Evernote) but I am not sure what it says about the developers of Evernote to have its core component (the editor itself) be utterly stagnant for half a decade or longer. While they have made some improvements to its organizational features such as improved tagging support as well as making their own phone-based document scanning tool, they seem to have been resting on their laurels as other tools like Ulysses are eating their lunch in the documentation space because of... you guessed it... the text editor. Granted, this is because "real" documentation tools support markdown and Evernote still does not, for me it has always simply been a usability problem with Evernote's WYSIWYG editor. I don't demand it have markdown, but please allow me the features so that I don't actually need it! Evernote is fine for personal scrapbooking and quickly snapping up scraps of data from all over the place and keeping it organized, but it is simply too glitchy and cumbersome for any sort of project that requires you to use text styles. Evernote is all about the cross platform-ability of the tool and all of the many ways you can get data in or out of it, but writing actual documents seems low on their list of priorities. You will rue the day you ever attempt to use it for anything remotely resembling desktop publishing as it is 180° from being the right tool for making reproducible documents. The very fact that you have to go through a tedious set of steps involving text selection and/or selecting items from menus (and submenus of menus!) just to toggle the use of the fixed-width font has pushed me to the point were in 2019 I have made the new year's resolution to get away from Evernote. TL;DR: I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. As much as it will be painful to switch, I need to break up with Evernote. After 5 years of reporting bugs and making feature requests along with hundreds of others, it would appear they just go unheard as there has been negligible progress towards making the editor more usable.

Nope, not as far as I can tell. Just today I cut and pasted some file names into file namer in TextMate and I couldn't figure out why the file name wouldn't appear to paste, but it was because it was throwing a carriage return in the name. Good thing "git status" caught the weirdness. This is pretty unacceptable as far as I am concerned, but the folks at Evernote clearly don't seem to care.

That may be so, but what should come as no shock to anyone, the problem is not fixed. As I said previously, it has been broken for over a decade. Don't expect it to take less than another decade for it to ever get fixed- if ever!

This problem has been going on got literally a decade yet the Evernote team has yet to do anything about it. It is utterly maddening that they still can't get simple formatting to work in notes- a problem they have never been able to resolve while the simplest text editors don't have an issue with it. I put up with it because of the rest of their features, but the makers should really be ashamed about this one. It's literally been around since the product was conceived. I cannot roll my eyes hard enough through the back of my head for this one!

Sorry, I caused confusion when I said "camera roll" and you inferred that I was talking about Evernote for IOS. I want to see Evernote for OSX getting one click access to the camera roll by way of the Photos datastore which would have those photos by way of iCloud photo sync. I would much rather write Evernote content using a keyboard than with a touch screen!

I'm sorry, but this is absolutely terrible and I hold both Apple and Evernote accountable for this terribleness. First of all, there should be a one step way for Evernote to be able to natively select photos from the camera roll and either link it or copy it into a note. The fact that you have to export the picture first, or have a copy of all of your photos ahead of time is utterly gross. I personally think Apple having turned "Photos" into a potentially enormous data object instead of just using the file system like, I dunno, like the rest of the planet Earth, was a gigantic middle finger to their user base. But if they are going to go that way, can they at least not be a bag of d__ks and just create the means for other apps to be able to access those photo objects through the standard file selection dialogue that's built into the system GUI so it's like accessing any other kind of file? Access to the individual photo objects should be seamless no matter how you do it. Besides, I loathe having to use "Photos" to browse for images to send as that app does literally nothing with those photos except offer deliberately incomplete sharing mechanisms (except for AirDrop and iCloud of course) that are so stripped of the core features that would normally be there for that media (like how the Facebook share completely lacks the means for tagging people, which is arguably one of the most important markups you can apply to a shared picture. Apple has failed so hard here you can only conclude that they did it on purpose to drive you to use a product that actually doesn't even exist anymore. iPhoto is no more, and they are high if they think I am going to shell out the gelt to buy Aperture just so I can white balance my photos. No Apple. Just, no. But the real crime is that Evernote could easily save the day by making it a one step process to browse the cursed monolithic Photos abortion with a simple image browser so you can elegantly select them AND put them into a tool that you can actually do useful things with. But no! Instead you get the "Everynote Sharing Plug-In" which is basically a hate crime: That's it. No notebook selector. No tagging. No nothing. You get to insert some text along with it that... SPOILER ALERT!... also becomes the title of the note. Seriously, this offensive degradation has been going on for years and nothing has been done about it. They made it so it doesn't crash as much, but I am pretty sure that is the only R&D "Photos" got since they murdered iPhoto - another crappy product that we pine for because Apple actually found a way to make the situation worse and for some reason which I can only assume because it blindly follows the everling mantra of "locking users in forever". Apple should not be getting away with this, and by that I mean someone NEEDS to create a proper photo management tool that syncs with the Apple photo monolith along with every other data pipeline that is in play, from Dropbox to Cyberduck (yes, it should sync- all changes must be bi-directional) AND it should provide as-good-as-native sharing plugins to all of the social media. The present situation is fecking intolerable! Please tell me I am not the only person who feels this way, and that Evernote needs to get off of their duff and take the law into their own hands so you can (and lets' say this all together) insert a photo into a note from your photo album in one step. I just want my Mac to have features that can compete with a Mac running Snow Leoppard. Also, as an aside, I tried to post in painstaking detail something similar on support.apple.com's forums trying to explain to someone who was condescendingly telling people who don't find their latest abomination a "helpful improvement" for managing your photo assets as progressive. My post was pulled along with the other once before it that question the logic of putting your photos in s sqlite database with no methods baked in to do anything with the efficiency that using a database allegedly buys you. Gosh, this really makes me mad, doesn't it.