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I have never ever seen "You're using outdated software" red flash . I am using the latest v10.x and always update when there's a new version. It's not outdated. You must be confused with users using the legacy version. What's the relationship between 'outdated' software and changes in plans and feature? Outdated software does not indicate change in plans. Yes they are forcing users to upgrade if they don't notify clearly to users that what they used to be able to do won't work anymore. I am not talking about their business decision and why they did it. They know that without warning users about the change, some users will have to pay so they can add notes. They're not going to have enough time to do research for a new app, migrate and be able to add notes in the new app in a very short time. I paid for a month so that I can give myself time to research other alternatives and make a decision to move or stay. I am certainly not happy for not being able to add notes suddenly. I also didn't get emails about their plan to change their offerings. All I have been seeing is the discounts and 'last chance' which showed for a very long time causing its lack of effectiveness. My whole reply was about their lack of giving users enough notice. You can stop talking about why they changed their plans. We already know why and how good it is for them.

They have been posting in your face ads for discounts for months but they couldn't put similar notifications or warnings that free users will only be able to have 50 notes and one notebook!? Come on Evernote. They did this sweeping move to 'force' users to upgrade and get a sudden influx of revenue. I paid for one month and probably will move to another app during the month. I found one that's 1/3 of Evernote's price.

They can say whatever they like on their website. I am not using notes mobile apps. Mobile devs can't publish apps to app stores without posting privacy pages anyways. It's already a requiement from the beginning. It's not as if some do and don't and users pick apps that do.

And how do you verify and check for how they protect your data? They can say anything on their web site. It doesn't mean they actually do what they say.

I was trying it now and I think I like it. Best one so far. Easy to use and does what I want. I am able to import the .enex files. Although the process could have been simpler. You have to use their website to import the .enex file and convert it into their .zip file which is imported in the app. Not sure why they didn't make it a simple oneclick import in the app. Not an issue since I can import all the .enex files in one swoop and it created all the notebooks with the proper names. Thumbs up. I haven't installed it on another computer yet and test the syncing.

1 notebook with 50 notes will eliminate most of the free users. This spec is very limited. I think that's what the company wants. Either pay up or leave. I am surprised the original Evernote company didn't do something similar. 2 devices with unlimited? notebooks and notes serveds many users well including myself for many years until I became a paid member today.

First of all, I am a believer of software needing revenue. However I am cheap and would use free resouces if they are available. So before I pay for Evenote, I wanted to check out free or less expensive alternatives. I looked at a couple alternatives mentioned in the forums. Obsidian: I didn't find a way to import my Evernote notebooks. I created a note and didn't see a text formatting toolbar. I right clicked and didn't see options to format the text. I was turned off and already do not like it. Nimbus: After anwering a bunch of questions, it showed me pricing plans. The free one wasn't there even though it was in the pricing page. Looks like it's web based only. I didn't like it. My use case of Evernote is just having a bunch of notebooks with notes and some of the notes having images. Syncing between two desktop Windows machines. I use search. No mobile devices. I am not interested in tags, pdfs, OCR, scanning or any advanced feature. I am not liking the price of $130/year for the way I use Evernote. I believe there should be a less expensive plan for light users. The free plan is unusable for me. Are there any Evernote clones or similar? I just want a Windows desktop app on two machines. Easy to use. It must be able to import Evernote notebooks and notes or there's a third party converter between Evernote and the app. Notes' text can be formwatted and images can be pasted into them. I might check out OneNote. I don't have an Office 365 subscription. If I find nothing, I will pay for Evernote.

I wasn't aware I had a default notebook or such thing existed. I have been using it for many many years and maybe it's something I did very long time ago which I don't recall now. The import message could have been more descrptiive by saying something.. notes have been imported into your default Notebook, Misc. The notebooks I doubleclicked as testing were imported into Misc. Merge and import mean the same thing to me. Merge is importing into an existing notebook.

Elephant man, I can propose recommendations and auggestions. BTW I am a software engineer and I can see most software is broken one way or another. Why don't you once in your life time admit Evernote has some faults instead of defending it all the time. Doubleclicking an .enex file does tell you the destination. In my case, it was the Miss notebook. Someone said it's because it's my default notebook. I don't recall making it the default notebook. It should place it in a new notebook, just like the import from the file menu. Import should work the same way regardless of how the user launches it. Merging it in my default notebook is not what I wanted. That's why there should be a prompt because for some users it's not the desired effect and there's no way to undo it. The prompt slowed you down and your life became miserable? Then check the 'Do not show again' check box which is the proper UX/UI that should have been done. That's what I proposed. Evernote has issues and bugs. Stop shooting down ideas to make it better. It's stupid. I never understood why some people oppose a suggested feature that is helpful to users and which can be easily turned off. You don't even have to go looking for it to turn it off.

Why don't you try it for yourself before you jump to the keyboard and reply with an annoying attitude? Importing by double clicking doesn't work like importing from the file menu. From the file menu, it imports into a new notebook called (imported) notebookbname. So even the docs is not correct. The docs doesn't mention the parenthesis, When you doubleclick, it imports into a notebook called Misc. I already had a notebook called Misc, so the silly Evernote merged some notebooks into an existing notebook instead of creating a new one. That's clearly a bug. It should have notified me I already have a notebook called Misc. And why on earth there are two different outcomes for an import operations!? Your last thing about Vista is pointless and serves no purpose. BTW, my post wasn't a question. It's about the lack of a prompt when I doubleclicked. I didn't know it was going to import. It wasn't about how to import. You're annoying and seem to take pleasure in showing people that they are inept.

When you open a file in Word, all it does it opens it. No state has changed. No harm done. Opening an .enex file and it says ok imported, it's a jarring UX. Where did it go? Did it merge with an existing notebook? Did it sync with it? Did it overwrite something? Did it add something? Did it...? Did it..? Can I undo the import? Did it sync already with the other devices? Too many uncomfortable questions. Surely you can't compare this experience with opening a file in Word. There's no comparison. In Word, just close the file if you accidently opened it. What's the objection to a confirmation dialog? There can be a 'Do not show again' checkbox and if you don't want to see it again, simply check the box. A good UX is one that makes everyone happy. I don't like surprises and importing an .enex file without me knowing exactly what is happening is not a good experience. If there's a manual or documentation that explains what happens during an import, Well OK. How many people will read the docs just before double clicking an .enex file? Either no one or very very few people.

Yes there should be an 'Are you sure?" prompt before importing' Any operation in any app that can have an adverse effect MUST always verify with the user first.

I know if a file extension is an associated with an app, doubleclicking opens the app. I already mentioned this fact. The normal operation is it OPENS the app and READS the file. Not some operation that might appear destructive like an import. I didn't know .enex extension was already associated with Everynote. I imported an enex called 'Medical' which is an export of a notebook called 'Medical'. I don't see another notebook with Medical in the name. I am saying the proper thing to do is add a confirmation before doing an import. You can discuss this instead of telling me how I can open a file.

I exported my notebooks using a tool to .enex files. I doubleclicked on an .enex thinking Windows was going to ask me which app to use. I wanted to see what's inside the file so I was going to use a text editor. What happened is that EverNote imported the file without asking me first. WTH! This operation seems to be too dangerous without prompting the user for confirmation first. I understand that .enex files are associated with Evernote. However if that .enex was an old one, I am not sure what state the notebook would have been in after the import and I might have lost some notes if the import synchronizes with the file. I won't be happy.

I am saying the same action became a lot slower. Something used to work fast and not anymore. I have no idea what 'when you will not work with the client' means. When I export I am working in the client. Evernnote can't do anything else while it's exporting a notebook. Yes I can wait. I can switch to do something else. I am just making an observation. I can still export.

I noticed that exporting a notebook to enex format has become a lot slower. A notebook with 150 notes used to take like 5 seconds. Now it takes about 30 seconds and I can see the percentage progress increasing 1% at a time. It wasn't like this before. I have a very fast machine.

Renaming a notebook requires you to type it all. So if you have a long notebook name and you just want to do a tiny update to the name, you have to type it all! It seems to me whoever designed that UI has little knowledge of basic UI/UX. They never renamed a folder or a file using File explorer and noticed the original name is in the textbox!? It's not a big deal. Just mentioning an annoyance.

I do have a lot more notes than 121. But I will never be able to beat your 20,235 posts. I have never seen someone who had more posts than that in all my years in hundreds of forums.

Don't use 'We' and instead just talk about yourself. You don't represent the EN community. I can mention a bug or what I think is an Issue or something I don't llike about EN or state any opinion I want as long as it pertains to EN. This is not your personal forums to tell people what they can post or not post. There are no rules that state no bugs can be reported. You even said it's not a bug. While it's preferable to contact support. Did it occur to you maybe I am trying to see if it's an actual bug? It seems with your 20,000+ posts count, you camp in these forums all the time and just argue with everyone. I don't think you know when to quit. So STFU.

What's your point? I don't care if I am the only EN user who has a notebook with only 1 note.

So other users are aware of the issue. Because I want to and I like writing posts. Maybe someone here knows why it happens and tells us the logic behind it. Maybe support reads the forums. I don't know for sure. Pick one of the above.

Read my comment to another fellow about opening a ticket with supoort. I already know I can contact support. It's not worth it. Different people use tools in different ways. So stop suggesting that by not using tags, I am crippled. The way I use EN works just fine with me. EN didn't even have tags in the early versions. Your analog is dumb. I drive an automatic any way! If this discussion is useless then stop replying.

Just because you use tags to organize notes, organizing by notebooks is secondary. The early versions of EN didn't support tags. It was organzing by notebooks ever since EN came to life. That's the structure you see in EN. By notebooks. I never use tags. I place notes in notebooks and if I need to find a note I use search. I know what keywords I know for sure are in a note. I can't say the same thing for tags. That's why searching by keywords is much reliable than tags. I can even search by partial words if I am not sure enough.

It's a bug if the behavior is not consistant and the same. Sometimes the filename is the notebook name and sometimes it's the title of the note. In both cases, the notebook had one note. It's not a pain. Since I know about this issue, I just copy the notebook name into the clipboard and paste into the fiel dialog. Not worth my time to open a ticket for EN.

Well.. when you create a new notebook, you start with one note and then you add more notes in the future. Who says it has to have many notes from the beginning. Just like folders on a computer. Some folders have just one file. Some physical folders start with one document and so on. A notebook is a notebook whether it has one note in it or a million. The export should not care how many notes are in there. Plus a note can have a title that has no indication which notebook it came from. I can have a note titled 'July expenses'. If the export exports it with that name, I have no idea if it came from the Expenses notebook or from the Taxes notebook. I hope this makes it clear for you.