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Harry Slaughter

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  1. Evernote is way late to the 'task manager' app space. There are much better tools (like Remember the Milk). Some people don't use Evernote for tasks. That's really not what it is for. It would be nice to get that feature out of the way/hidden for these folks.
  2. The 'freemium' model works well for a ton of companies. I think it is the best model to attract users. I started with Evernote free. I quickly saw the value in upgrading and did so. I am much more likely to try an app that allows me to test drive it for free. I associate the pay-up-front model with expensive proprietary software that is always closed-source and secretive. Bending Spoons would be making a mistake if they shut down or cripple the free version of Evernote.
  3. I believe they moved the 'export notebook' from the file menu to the notebook context menu. So I didn't find it. The feature is definitely still there. Features have been removed or made worse. One small example that most wouldn't notice is the ability to quickly change the 'created' timestamp on a note. Previously, I could quickly update the value to match the date on an old document I may have scanned so I can filter documents chronologically. In v10, changing that value is just awkward. It can be done, but it's more clicks and slower to accomplish. It's possible that some of the features I think have been removed may exist somewhere else in the UI now, sure. I thought the 'sync folder' feature was removed, but it was simply buried in a different location. Evernote for me is now much slower to startup and use. That's subjective, yes. Search is slower. Navigating notes and notebooks is slower. Improvements? Sure. Sync now seems to be 'behind the scenes'. I no longer need to sync after exporting web content to Evernote via clipper. The clips are in Evernote within a few seconds. I like. The editor is improving. The old editor was so icky. Formatting was painful. The new editor seems to be markdown based or something, which is great. Overall, it's no longer for me. My main concern is that Evernote will continue to degrade and I'll have 20 years of information that I can't access. Maybe this is unlikely. But seeing what Bending Spoons is up to, I just want to get my notes out and move on to a non-proprietary solution. Evernote has been a crucial tool for me for 20 years. I'm happy for that.
  4. I ended up trying out Web Catalog. It creates a simplified local web version of hundreds of web apps. It removes all the noise of the browser and makes web apps faster and feel somewhat native. Of the attempts I've seen to 'localize' web apps, this is the best I've seen. This will do until I can get completely away from the dying Evernote.. And while some apps aren't available on Linux, they are usually bloated proprietary apps that I can live without or have open-source counterparts. And there are tens of thousands of applications available on Linux that aren't available on Windows or, to a lesser extent, Apple whatever OS. Bending Spoons missed an opportunity when they bought Evernote. They abandoned most of what Evernote was and replaced it with something that is slower and buggier, removes features, and they are increasing pricing (I do thank them for temporarily grandfathering in Premium accounts though). They've added a few improvements and 'modernized' the look of the app. But I just don't think they're going replace users like me who are leaving the platform with enough new users willing to pay the high prices in a space that now has dozens of cheap to free alternatives.
  5. I have tried to run Evernote in Wine. Prior to Evernote v10 I tried installing various Evernote versions using Wine for Linux. I love Wine, and Evernote did fire up, but it was more of a hideous beast than a usable app.
  6. By 'bootleg' I simply meant an archived version of the old Evernote client for Linux. Evernote erased it from the net, but it still worked until they blocked it a couple days ago. Chrome being blocked was my fault. I am a web developer and I had configured some spoofed client headers and forgot to turn them off. The web app is definitely accessible on Linux browsers. For those of you who don't mind your notes being locked into Evernote, and only use Windows and Mac, and never used any of the cool features that Evernote has removed, can continue to enjoy Evernote. I'm just disheartened that Evernote killed the Linux client (I'm sure the company that bought Evernote [bending spoons]) consists of Mac fanboys with no Linux expertise. So they have to abandon it. But don't buy into their marketing campaign about a newer, better, faster Evernote. Some things are slightly improved in v10. But overall, it's slower, buggier, and has had features removed. I'm sorry if I got worked up. But digital note taking has been part of my workflow since I got my first computer. I chose to move all my work into Evernote 20 years ago. So I'm not happy with the direction "Bending Spoons" is taking the software. If you visit their site, it becomes apparent they are all about flashy marketing, not tech. All sizzle, no steak. Moving on...
  7. Improving the web experience by blocking Linux users right after you disable a working Linux desktop version? LOL I apologize to everyone I've recommended Evernote to in the last 20 years. UPDATE The failure of the web client was my fault. I tweaked client headers and forgot to revert.
  8. UPDATE The failure of the web client was my fault. I tweaked client headers and forgot to revert. I thought I'd take another look at the web version since the Linux client no longer works. I have the latest version of Chrome (Version 121.0.6167.184 (Official Build) (64-bit)), and when I load the web client, I see: Note the suggestion to download the non-existent Linux version. Laughable how bad Evernote has become.
  9. I've been using a bootleg copy of Evernote 10 for Linux which I backed up since Evernote took it offline. Today Evernote started blocking network traffic from this version. I can't even open it up. If you've been using Evernote since the beginning, you probably realize that the software we loved and depended on is dead. With Evernote 10, they ruined the interface with a much less function and more cartoonish UI. They removed almost all of the settings options. They removed a lot of features. It is buggy and crashes. I get ghost popup JavaScript errors that reveal they are from Evernote. It's much slower than the previous version. And these are all observations made using the Windows version. Evernote as we old timers know it is dead. It's gone. It's no more. What I've learned from my time using Evernote is that I will never again trust my notes to proprietary software that holds my data hostage. My new system will store all notes in plain text, markdown format on my local filesystem. If you use a top-drawer markdown editor (like Typora), you get an editing experience far superior to anything Evernote has ever offered. I will organize notes in folders. I will manage syncing with Dropbox or similar. I will need to figure out a solution for tags and reminders. But most of the features I will be missing have already been removed or ruined in Evernote. Most importantly, my new system will be usable on all platforms and will not lock me into any expensive proprietary solution. Hours of research into alternatives have left me thinking that Joplin is the best alternative. It does have the ability to import Evernote notebooks, but I believe Evernote has just recently removed the ability to export entire notebooks. Joplin stores notes in markdown format, but unfortunately, it stores them all in one directory with randomized file names. But there are alternatives. Bye, bye Evernote
  10. Just one of so many features they removed. Another one they removed was the ability to sync to a local directory. So you could automatically import a folder full of other docs you might be working with. And the slowness is unbearable.
  11. You can export one note at a time. If you have been using Evernote for over 20 years, as I have, you will have thousands of notes. I have about 5000 notes. You're going to export these by hand, one at a time? LOL. I believe there was a way recently to export an entire notebook, but I can no longer find that option in Evernote. Did they remove it? Probably. They want you locked into Evernote as they increase the price and decrease the features and value in the product. When Evernote10 came out, I knew I would need to move off of it. 10 is just pathetic. It's slow as heck, has a cartoonish interface and is missing many of the features it used to have. There are some alternatives out there. The most promising one I've seen is Joplin https://joplinapp.org/. I tested it, and it successfully imports entire notebooks from Evernote (if you can figure out how to export them these days). It has shortcomings. It stores the nodes in individual markdown files, which is great. But it does not store them in a way that is useable by other software, which is bad. And it may not have the reliable syncing ability that Evernote always has had (and still seems to).
  12. So frustrating. I finally relented recently due to the nag popups and upgraded to v10. I avoided it as long as possible. They removed so many features it is sickening. I used to import notes in bulk and then edit the creation time of each note for sorting/filtering. Can't do that anymore. Why???
  13. After Evernote10 came out, I started looking at alternatives too. The best alternative I found at the time was also Joplin. But it does not have built in sync. You'd have to do that yourself using Dropbox or similar. It's a lot nicer and simpler in many ways, and it is not a victim to the marketing department like Evernote (dumbing it down and making it more expensive). It's also cross platform (read Linux). I like that Joplin stores everything in markdown, which makes it much easier to work with externally. But it stores all notes in one directory with random names, so the notes are much less useful externally. It was also the only app able to import 15 years worth of Evernote data. Once I discovered a seemingly supported port of Evernote10 for Linux (https://itsfoss.com/install-evernote-ubuntu/), I kinda stopped pursuing the issue.
  14. This is the moment many of us have been dreading, the eventual death of v6 and the indifference from Evernote for their long term users who want to see v10 bring back many of the features from v6 that were removed.
  15. This thread is old, but still so relevant. Evernote abandoned users like me who've paying for and using it since its early days. They'll be taking the Google approach to legacy support for 9. In other words, in a year or so they will drop support entirely and probably block access for version 9 and below. I for one will be stuck with an app that is no longer supported, and upgrade path that is no good due to all the missing features, and 10 years worth of Evernote data locked into some odd XML format with no way out. I suffered with Evernote shortcomings (like the horrific editor) for years thinking they would get around to fixing them. Instead, I got the finger. I just hope by the time they kill v9, there is a way to migrate my old data into a better platform.
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