Gazebo

Runs well on XR

I follow threads on here, having been an EN user since 2013, most of that time as premium. The last few months have been challenging with changes made not always effective, but the naysaying and doom-mongering is wearing. Despite changes and lags the data has been rock-solid. Every change is adding or backfilling features. The web version is immeasurably improved, the IOS version (on iPhone) is now as fast as before and better laid out. The Windows version has got better, though still not quite as good as Legacy. The thing we are seeing is incremental progress from a scorched earth rebuild. I have been frustrated by some of the changes, but overall kudos to EN, Ian Small and the developers for taking a brave step and implementing it. I fully expect more improvements to come based on evidence of updates in the last 12 months.

The Secret Weapon set up https://thesecretweapon.org/the-secret-weapon-manifesto/setting-up-the-secret-weapon/amp/ uses GTD and Evernote tags to create a system that I have used with minor tweaks since 2015. worth looking at.

I am getting slow loading issues - 23 seconds to open app. Caches cleared, tried reinstalling didn’t improve things.

I really DO like the home feature, but my frustration is the time it takes to open in Android now. I have circa 2500 notes, so not massive, and am running on a Samsung J6+ which isn't high end but is a decent enough mid market phone, and is company issue. From starting the app to being able to access notes is 23 seconds, then you need to open a note, which takes a further 11 seconds (just timed it on a random note) and thats over half a minute before anything can be achieved. The Samsung is my work phone. Compare and contrast with my personal Iphone XR. 4 seconds to open the app, 1 second to open the same note. Then also compare with Onenote - which is the preferred corporate tool Samsung: Opens app in 10 seconds, and opens a note in 1 second - so overall 20 seconds faster than EN on the same device Iphone: Opens app in 2 seconds, opens note when app open immediately - too fast to time. I want EN to be my main app, but this makes it very difficult to support.

This is something that has changed in recent years. When I had an iphone in 2016 the document capture was brilliant, I spent some time on Android, but came back to IOS in 2020 and have the same problem as described. Oddly it also now affects my work phone which is Android. Its always pot luck what the camera takes now!

I have exported all of my notes in html format. The continuing problems with V10, plus the issues I have had with using EN and making it work effectively have moved me to the opposition and my subscription expires in May. I may renew, as I have nearly ten years of notes and commitment invested, but I'm open to moving away.

I'd love to love the new EN. I have been an evangelist for it in the past, but its reliance on web syncing all of the time means it is not as stable as it should be. I am WFH today, so have good, fast internet. There have been no connection problems here today, but working in EN and suddenly a table I am working in disappeared and is replaced by an "Unable to Load" notification. I tried closing, re-opening etc and eventually I got most of it back, but the table is one that I need to update on site tomorrow on 4G and I'm very worried that it will do the same again. I have been with EN as a Premium user since August 2013, so a lot of my personal and work life is in EN. I have never had a problem with syncing or loss of data before. This is the second time since v10 that I have encountered this, and one of my main reasons to support EN was that it just worked. Now it doesn't quite so well. I want to be loyal, and not have to mess around moving stuff to other apps. Onenote looks nice, but seems to lack some of the speed that used to be the USP of EN. I have looked at Nimbus, and like the look, tasks features etc, but I am worried that my data will be somewhere in Siberia. I really hope that there are upgrades soon as my subscription expires in May and at present I'm not inclined to renew.

IMHO the Cloud is now a safer place for data resilience than your own hard drives. The business I work for now keeps all data in the cloud using Citrix for reasons of business continuity and risk management, but we are encouraged (but not forced) to use Onenote for our personal work records, this keeps the data within the domains paid for by the company. I still use Evernote for a lot of meeting notes and document scans as it is quicker to access than Onenote generally, but that is stuff that back in the day I would have written in a notebook and kept in my desk, so it has no real security risk attached to it.

I use one account for everything, as that seems to be point of the service - the external brain. If you set it up with a good password and 2FA I don’t see where the risk is?

Agreed. Also the ability to merge and create a "Table of Contents" note would be nice to re-appear. It used to be in the web version, going back to around 2015, as I remember, but I have to go back to Legacy to do it on desktop. I use EN on Chromebook a great deal so having the feature on the web version (which is more stable on a Chromebook than the Android for me) would be the best place.

I needed to buy a present for my wife. Connection made to a note from 2016 that confirmed a preference. The external brain strikes again.

I went to Onenote, but I'm back. I couldn't get reliable syncing, and the web clipper isn't as good. Getting emails into it from gmail wasn't 100% effective, though, as you'd expect, adding from Outlook was brilliant. Anyway, the upshot was, that although although EN lacks some features and has taken some mis-steps, I still prefer to stick with them, as from my personal perspective and for my workflows EN still offers a better package.

A problem with onenote is that notes created in the desktop version cannot be viewed or edited in the web version That might be historic - I’ve been using desktop, web and mobile for work projects for 12 months on Windows, Chrome, IOS and Android and it’s been fine. Downsides are slow to load when changing device, and I had some sync and notebook issues, but that was when I first had to use it. (Our corporate preference is ONeNote). It’s been solid for months.

Sorry, this wasn't pointed at you personally, and I understand the frustration. I hadn't been adversely affected by the updates until today. Today I have been using the desktop windows version and was trying to update an existing work template for a new project and found that EN couldn't keep up with my typing, I am a two finger typist. It was like being on a dial up connection to a forum in the early 90's. I had to cut and paste the template to a Word document to be able to work on it in the end. This never used to be the case. So maybe Onenote is the best alternative for what I do and is the answer for me. The EN sluggishness has only just started affecting me. Also ON has improved its syncing and resilience over the last 12 months. I still don't think ON is as good as the old EN, but then clearly neither is EN!