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How do so many people 'quit' Evernote so easily
Gazebo replied to SDR2024's topic in Evernote General Discussions
I have just cancelled my subscription after 12 years as a paying user and wanted to explain why. I was a massive evangelist for EN back in the day, and used it constantly for everything, on Windows, Iphone IOS, Android and Web. It was super-efficient, fast syncing and search was phenomenal for years. I used it for home, health, finances, work meetings, planning and document storage. Then around 2019 (I think) it started getting less reliable. I'd take notes on the road and they sometimes disappeared or were incomplete. The Android performance dropped off a cliff and I had to use other ways of making notes as it just couldn't handle normal use. I stayed with EN, but have gradually moved away to Onenote day to day, which for my usage has been more reliable in the field. I don't like it nearly as much as "old EN" but the search function is better, and everything is saved. I will acknowledge that EN today is far better than even two years ago, but I had already naturally moved to the dark side to remain productive. The final straw was actually the pricing which nearly doubled to renew this year. With reduced use of the app and the new cost being more than I pay for Microsoft365 I couldn't justify the increase and don't get the value from it. What really rankled me was that when I said I was cancelling I was immediately offered a 40% discount. WHY? If that's the price you can work at why are you asking for significantly more? I know other subscription services do this, but if the renewal had been at the lower price, I might have just let the smaller increase go and re-subscribed. Instead, I feel like I would have been ripped off if I had taken the renewal, which leaves a bad taste and led me to follow through on cancellation. This seems bad business practice. It feels like a sad day for me. I genuinely thought back in the days of "old EN" that I would never leave. -
Need alternative - will not pay anymore for this *****
Gazebo replied to MikeTurd's topic in Evernote General Discussions
@bmcl26 @agsteele Thanks for your responses. Although my tablet is only a couple of years old, it was very much a budget purchase as I was working on construction sites and didn't want to put lots of money into something that was likely to be damaged. I had a look at the A70 spec and although it is older, it has significantly better storage and I'm guessing the processor is better as it seems like a premium device. Looks like I need to upgrade. -
Need alternative - will not pay anymore for this *****
Gazebo replied to MikeTurd's topic in Evernote General Discussions
@mackid1993 @SeanAKY @bmcl26 I'm using a Samsung Tab A7 at home, and on decent wifi. I know it's not the most spiffy of devices but it is very usable with Onenote and awful with EN. For example, needed to save a picture of something in the house and make some notes about sizes, paint colours etc. EN is my default storage for this, as it has about 10 years of info. I literally couldn't get the photo to insert in around 15 minutes of trying. Went to Onenote and did it in seconds. What should I try to improve performance (apart from upgrade the tablet 🤣)? Is it me? I changed jobs last month but previously had a Samsung A52 work mobile, about a year old, and couldn't sensibly use EN on that either, so assumed it was an Android compatibility issue. My new company won't allow EN to be installed on their Android phones, and I am locked into Onedrive/ Onenote with them. My personal Iphone works really well with EN. My position is, I really like the workflow in EN, I have a lot of stuff in there and was a massive evangelist for them for years. I'd like to use it more. Working out how I improve Android performance would be a big thing for me. -
Need alternative - will not pay anymore for this *****
Gazebo replied to MikeTurd's topic in Evernote General Discussions
@PinkElephant Whilst I agree in principle regarding software at work, if you are making notes on paper in a meeting the company doesn't have access of control of that, so my use case for Evernote used to be that I would take handwritten notes, scan them to EN and just have them available for my own reference to avoid carrying lots of notebooks around with me. Since EN and Android haven't worked well for some time I have pretty much reverted to using work Onedrive/ Onenote to do the same thing, but it's nowhere near as efficient as EN used to be back in the day. @MikeTurd If you can change your workflow Onenote is not bad, and for me provides much better access and reliability than EN (particularly if you need to use Android). My experience is that on IOS EN works pretty much like it used to six or seven years ago now, but set aside an afternoon if you are trying to use it on an Android device. -
I am so sick of trying to make excuses for Evernote. I decided to get back to using Evernote as my main app, after thinking that the recent updates have made significant improvements. I was wrong. Yesterday: Needed to access some notes at work. I can only use web version at work. After 15 mins still hadn't opened. It is not blocked by our servers. It just doesn't work. I did access the note I wanted on my iPhone and then had to email it to myself to be able to use it . Very inefficient. Today: I was at a meeting and decided to take notes on my android work phone. The app opened ok (though significantly slower than it opened 10 years ago) but notes corrupted as I wrote them (couldn't complete sentences, words added themselves to previous bullets for no reason) and I ended up moving to OneNote which was faultless. Even more inefficient. What is Evernote for any longer? I'm not interested in raising tickets - this used to be a fast and usable product and it has become unable to do its core function, surrounded by lots of non-core nonsense. I've continued to pay every year hoping it would get back to where it was, but it will never be as good as it was, and I have lost faith. I never thought Onenote would be preferable to Evernote. I used to be such an evangelist for Evernote, then I became an apologist, now I can no longer recommend it, and feel hoodwinked for having relied on it so much.
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Major Mobile Bug
Gazebo replied to grahamprothero's topic in Evernote for Android Issues (Versions 10.0 and above)
I think this is a far better Home Screen than the previous one. Easy to add notes and easy to go to previous Notes or search. Looks very similar on my Iphone and my work Android phone and opens reasonably fast. Look and feel ties in with the web version (haven't tried it on Windows yet), so no complaints from me. -
Just had my price increase notification - subscription has nearly doubled, which is a bit of a shocker HOWEVER looking back over the 11 years I have been a subscriber the price has barely changed over that period. They say that on average inflation doubles costs every 10 years, so on that basis this adjustment (though unwelcome) might actually be a correct level reset based on what the price when I started was. Evernote has been pretty ropey in recent years, but is getting better, and as a repository, storage and retrieval system is something that I rely on, though I use it less and less for notetaking these days. Features that I need are all back from previous versions, only the speed needs to improve. I know the old " its only the price of two coffees a month" argument isn't a great one, but that's what the cost is at local prices here. I guess you need to choose what subscriptions are worth your two coffees and I've decided that Evernote is worth it for my use case. Respect to anyone who disagrees, but thought I should submit a positive against the overwhelming amount of bad press on here over recent months.
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@PinkElephant Completely agree that what EN are doing is chalk and cheese to Filmic, and I have no problem with paying for something that I use all of the time, particularly considering the amount of data and security required to maintain EN.. EN was my lead app of choice since 2013 when I first started paying for it, but in recent years had to move to Onenote for work (EN blocked on servers) and phone apps became really cumbersome for personal stuff so it fell out of favour somewhat.. As I said, pleasantly surprised by latest updates and hoping for a resurgence!
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I bought the Filmic App a few years ago (significantly more expensive than competitors, but seemed to have more features). About 12 months later (I presume when BS got involved) it moves to subscription which is three times the price I paid for a one time purchase. As an occasional video maker it's hard to make a case for a monthly sub, when you probably use it twice a year. I use Filmic Legacy (no updates, a bit like EN Legacy), but am now trying out Cinema P3, which is on a one off purchase basis. I dislike subs generally, but used EN enough in the past that it was worth the cost. Have used it less and less over the past five years, and really only pay still because I have 3358 notes. Increasingly I am using Onenote, which has got better, while EN got worse. On a positive note have accessed EN today on my laptop for the first time in about three months and was pleasantly surprised. Two or three updates, and seemed much faster on both Windows and i-phone. Hopefully it will get back to how good it was in 2014/5 when I relied on it for everything!
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EN 10.58.3-win running out of storage space
Gazebo replied to janndk's topic in Evernote General Discussions
This is mad. EN used to be usable on lower spec computers AND be much faster on all devices. It's becoming less Green Elephant, more White Elephant. I no longer use it for notes on the move, and have moved overto Onenote as its stable on phones and tablets, and am gradually reaching a point where I think I may drop EN altogether. Sad, as if it was as it was in 2015 it would still be my preferred notes app. -
Indent Question?
Gazebo replied to Brett Burger's topic in Evernote for Windows Issues (Versions 6.25.1 and under)
EN doesn't handle long form text very well, so my approach is to use an external app (Google Docs/Word) as the creation and editing tool and use EN as the document store. Also I find it's too frustrating trying to cut or extract text from EN to other apps due to the need to re-format each end. @Chanticrow My advice (as you are using Chromebook as one of your devices) would be to use Googledocs for drafting etc. Its as stable as EN, has all the formatting and can be used offline, I tend to just keep specific drafts or final versions in EN that might needed for reference. -
Correct, the Android version sucks, but I use web version on my Chromebook and it’s virtually indistinguishable from the app on a Windows machine, to me, in everyday use. For me, the web version is one of the best versions of the new layout.