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  1. Easy, kids -- pretty open-ended topic here. No reason not to talk about things in Evernote that bug you vs other applications (though hopefully you've reported those elsewhere in a more appropriate place)
  2. https://lifehacker.com/the-best-note-taking-apps-1837842880 Discuss.
  3. The rule is that you can add tags to a note in a notebook shared to you, but you may only add tags that have already been used in that shared notebook. For the rationale, see Note that @engberg was the CTO of Evernote at that time.
  4. And millennials, and you don't know the half of it. My town of just under 70,000 people has at least 5 roasteries that I can name off the top of my head in the city limits, and 20 or more craft breweries and I'm not even much of a drinker. And then the restaurants -- I could go on. Anyways, the coffee I get is roasted about 30 miles away, but I can get it at my local grocery store, and I wouldn't buy it is it wasn't good.
  5. Good catch: they behave like folders in a file system in that (normally) a fle belongs to exactly one folder. Maybe "folders in a filing cabinet would be better". I'll edit. Sure, and we all know that, but the point of that particular post was to describe the properties of Evernote notes, notebooks, stacks, and tags actually work and interact, not how to use them. It's the starting point, and crucial to understanding what you can and cannot do with them. Fact is, the emulation is actually rather poor because tag names are unique to an account, and cannot be repeated in the hierarchy. The latter fact (tag uniqueness) is essential to understanding the limitations of using tags as a file folder emulation.
  6. Before @dcon comes back and corrects my explanation, the basic thing is this: the two versions of CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework, versions 1and 3) essentially comprise a web browser that you embed in your application,. Evernote uses (or used) it to render your note content (and not, I think, all of the various UI.around your note: toolbars, buttons, tag display, etc.), and implement editing facilities so that you can modify your note. So problem #1 is how to hook it into your application, which in Evernote's case is actually several applications, one for each platform/code base they support: you need to link it in to your application so that you can use its interfaces. Those interfaces tell it things like where it should be displayed on the screen, what HTML to feed it, what JavaScript to use (like any web browser, it renders HTML and can run JavaScript). Also note: since Evernote notes are coded into ENML (which is close to HTML, but contains elements that are specific to Everntoe), you need a way to translate perfectly back and forth from ENML and HTML. You get the note content (ENML) from the server/database, translate it the HTML and shove it down to the embedded browser. Make edits (more on that below) and when it's time to sync/save, your haul the HTML out of the browser and translate it back to ENML. So there's a fair bit of coding just to hook in the browser framework (different on each platform), and do HTML/ENML translations (probably different in each application if they use different languages; not sure about details there). Problem #2 is coding the interactions between the browser framework and your note. That is, when you click on a button in the UI, it does something to your note (turns it bold, changes color/font, inserts a horizontal line, indents, adds bullet listing, inserts some text, etc., etc.) That's a list of possible interactions in your note that's handled, as best I can tell, by Javascript, and that bit comprises the Common Editor (CE). Theoretically, that should be portable to Evernote's other platforms in toto. But it still needs to be written, debugged, and tested and there are lots and lots of possible scenarios. So, grossly simplified (because I don't know details here) overview: The application embeds the browser framework (e.g., CEF3) and communicates with it, the CEFs runs on a web page (HTML) that represents your note, and transformation o(edits) on your note are performed by the JavaScript code. At least some of the problems faced over time are described here:
  7. Oh, thanks. It's sort of a standard mantra I've been using for awhile to isolate the main Evernote organizational components; it's always seemed to me that it's a good starting point for how you can then start talking about various organization schemes in Evernote, particularly when you add in the Evernote search capabilities. This is the sort of stuff I look for when I look at Evernote competitors (or any new software, really), but never seem to find (e.g. OneNote, Notion, at least the last time I looked at them).
  8. And hey - don't go jumpin' to no conclusions here stranger; there's some competition for that position - along with the consumption (out of school hours) of other recreational beverages with a higher specific gravity... Heh, I meant aside from me. I just buy mine locally (and locally roasted), rather than mail order...
  9. Sorry, you are quite correct, and your eyesight and math are both fine as far as I can tell. Sorry to have missed your post (and my miscounting of lines); must have been having a bad brain day.
  10. There's also the Windows Emoji keyboard: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/02/05/windows-10-tip-get-started-emoji-keyboard-shortcut/. Shortcut: Win+. (Windows key plus the period). Not sure when this was added, but it's working for me. Beyond that, you could also use a 3rd party tool like AutoHotKey or Phrase express to define keystrokes that insert special symbols into an Evernote note.
  11. OneNote does not match up structurally with Evernote. Notebooks contain only notes, and tags may be applied only to notes. There are no "sections" of a notebook (i.e. notebook subdivisions) that tags could apply to, nor are there "pages" in Evernote: You could use tags to emulate "sections" of notebooks, but there's no inherent functionality for Evernote to treat those sections as special; they'd just be identifiable by a notebook/tag pair, just like other standard search filters.
  12. This has been requested before. The OCR that Evernote uses suggests candidate text items for image areas that it identifies as text. In particular, that means that Evernote may make more than one guess at a single image area. So while the text recognition seems to generally follow a left-to-right/top-to-bottom order, there's not necessarily a coherent stream of text in the OCR that would match up 1-1 with words in an image. This would be useful, I understand, but don't know how feasible it is with Evernote's current OCR technology.
  13. No way that I know of. You'd need to figure out a way to split up the bookmark HTML export into separate notebooks/notes on your own. Personally, I think that this would be a pretty crazy usage of Evernote, notwithstanding the fact that Evernote's flat notebook organizational scheme can't model the bookmark hierarchy anyways.
  14. I prefer to spend time organizing my notes, not my tags. My tag vocabulary is pretty stable by now anyways, but I do still add new tags on occasion. Even so, some of my tags resist a pure hierarchy anyways, because they can be used in different contexts: there's no single place to put them. In practice, I keep my Windows left panel tag tree closed almost all the time; I just plain don't use them for note navigation. BTW, this also has the benefit of making he lack of tag hierarchy on other platforms irrelevant to me. All the above being said, consistency in presentation would be a good thing for folks who do use them for navigation. Guess we know who the coffee hound is around here...
  15. Note that nestable tags are not required for tag-centric organization. It helps if you want to do mouse clicking up and down a tree of organizing elements (folder, tags, whatever), sure, but not everyone needs-- or wants -- to do that. Some of us just type in the tags they want to search for...
  16. As usual, I appreciate your clarifications. So the editor is really the JavaScript program used to manipulate the HTML (that's analogous to the Evernote ENML) inside the editor, which the framework then displays. And 'CE' here refers to the Evernote Common Editor? Sounds like getting a new CEF update spread joy across your dev staff...
  17. A little late to this, as I spent my Labor Day weekend in a remote coastal area of my state with dodgy Internet connections (but with great food). Here's my semi-standard explanation for beginners, largely sans techie jargon like ":metadata" (though I can go there if asked), or metaphysical conceptualization about Evernote constructs. It's more or less a starting point for understanding and discussing Evernote concepts and how they fit together. I leave out search for further discussion, although search is necessarily closely related to the Evernote structural elements. This purely a how-they-work summary, not a how-should/can--they-be-used overview Herewith: Evernote is a software for note taking and note collection. with the ability to access your note collection across multiple computer devices. An Evernote note can contain text, tables, links, images and other files. Notes have other properties like title, author, URL, creation date, modified date and so on. All notes belong to exactly one notebook. In that respect, Evernote notebooks behave like physical notebooks, or shoeboxes, or folders in a file system file folders in a filing cabinet. Notebooks are not nestable: they cannot contain other notebooks; only notes. Notebooks have names that are unique to a user's account. Notes may be moved freely among a user's notebooks. An Evernote notebook may belong to either 0 or 1 stacks Stacks are notebook containers only, and may not contain other stacks or notes. Stacks have names that are unique to a user's account. A stack contains one or more notebooks; if the last notebook in a stack is removed, then the stack is also removed. A notebooks can be removed from its stack, or added to a stack, or moved to a different stack. A tag is a label that you can apply to an Evernote note, but not to notebooks or stacks. You can apply the same tag to multiple notes, and a note can have 0 or more tags applied to it. Tags are just a piece of text with no intrinsic meaning, though it's really helpful if a user chooses good tag names for themselves (or for others, if notes are shared with other people). Tags behave like physical labels you might put on an object, or keywords in a research paper, or even like adjectives to a noun; they generally are used to describe the note they're applied to in some way, but again, there are no intrinsic rules as to the meanings of tag names. Tag names are unique to a user's account. By default, tags are listed in a single flat list, but they can be organized in a hierarchical fashion. There is no intrinsic meaning in Evernote as to the meaning of a tag hierarchy; the user can create a hierarchy that suits their own needs. Tags can be freely added to or removed from notes.
  18. Hmm, dunno. Maybe check your ClearType setting? This is what I'm seeing, different typefaces in different sizes: :ppls fine to me...
  19. Serious, at least in part. There was CEF 1, CEF 3 (the current one, I think, at least in Windows), and now the new one, whatever that is. Evernote isn't building the common part, at least the core; those are frameworks for building specialized applications (info on CEF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Framework). Not my ball of wax, but there's almost certainly common code that Evernote has to write to implement common editing behaviors in the common core, and then there are disparate code bases for each of the platforms (Windows, Mac, web, Android, iOS) for UI/UX, because those are native applications that embed the common editor part (again, Evernote has to build those containing applications). @dcon knows more about this, and much more intimately... maybe they'll even show you the scars...
  20. Note history includes previous searches, which I find very useful. It usually seems to go back to the previous note in that search as well. Usually back through a search is close enough for me, though.
  21. Tags are wholly user definable, and they appear (or can, if you want) in the list view column set.
  22. Or if you use reminders, you can use the filter -reminderdonetime:* that excludes notes that were reminders and have been marked as done. For more, see: https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php Note that "reminderdonetime" (or "Reminder Done Time" as it's shown in list views) is already a note field.
  23. At work, my Todo notebook has a fair number of items, but only a few of them have reminders )the specific search being: I click on my Todo notebook). Those are the ones I want to see up top no matter how the notes in that notebook are ordered (snippet view, which I use, only has room for 8 or so items visible with the reminders list closed, fewer if it's open). Once I'm done with a reminder note, I mark it as done, and move it somewhere else, typically my Journal notebook.
  24. You are incorrect. The standard Evernote for Windows is a .exe, and you can get its installer from the evernote.com main page. Look for "Download app" at the bottom of the page.Clicking that link, at least on Windows, downloads the installer. This is not a store app.
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