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3 hours ago, jianfa.tsai said:

What do u reckon the number of times (touchpoints) "move note to notebook" & "close window" are pressed by the average Evernote premium user per day

Since you ask, my guess would be "not a lot". I typically move notes around to other notebooks in the main window, where I can drag/drop if I want, or select from the note's Notebook dropdown, and in particular, do bulk moves via multi-select. Move to new notebook, followed by an immediate close window? Vanishingly rare, in my case. And if that ever happened to me: change notebook, and the window closed, I would think that that was really, really surprising and I doubt that I'd be alone. So then there's be a need to add a new Option for this, and all of the usual stuff that goes along with it, not including the fact that the Windows client will likely be taken over the new one sometime, so how much work do you want to put into making UI changes when you're going to be using a new framework anyways? I'm just not seeing it.

But that's just a guess, as is your fanciful calculation. If Evernote is collecting telemetry data on usage (can't remember if they are or not) they they might no better.

Look, I appreciate suggestions, and Evernote does, of course, but as a software developer myself, my instinct tells me that it would be very small bang for low buck, and something to prioritize down.Frankly, I can say that I've seen this request before, and I've been following the Evernote forums -- particularly the Windows requests -- for a long time.

3 hours ago, jianfa.tsai said:

I wish you and your family safe from Coronavirus

I can certainly agree with that.  Take care, and don't let grouches like me stop you from making suggestions!

1 hour ago, gazumped said:

occasionally it's 30-300 seconds

OK, that's waaayyy too long. Proc Mon, maybe?

3 hours ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

That's what I'm sayin', $.01/second, isn't that you're going rate? 

Moving stuff around is free. I do upvotes for $1000, if anyone will pay me, that is...

6 hours ago, twentynine said:

I use Evernote 6.24.2.8919 (308919) Public (CE Build ce-62.6.10954) for Windows 10. Text display in my notes seems to be improperly scaled to the note window: lines of text run off the right/bottom edges (no matter how I adjust the window size), and when I click on text, the cursor appears below+right of where I clicked (see attached image). It's like the text is always rendered at ~110% of the actual window size. Very annoying! Any suggestions?

Is this a web clipping or a copy/paste of a web page? This sort of thing can happen when formatting from a web page and Evernote don't get along. It's annoying. If it's a web clipper thing, you might try to re-clip it as a simplified web page.

31 minutes ago, jianfa.tsai said:

would a normal human prefer getting 1. $1,000 with 100% ease or 2. $1,000 with 200% ease?

That''s a pretty silly comparison. It doesn't seem like a big user win to me. But if you want to send me $1000, I'll upvote it.

34 minutes ago, jianfa.tsai said:

what are the pros and cons?

What do *you* think the pros and cons are?

What window would be closed? Are you talking about when you have a note open in a separate window? If so, this would not gain mush, since closing a window is so easy.

30 minutes ago, techlectics said:

The problem is that Evernote does not have any real competition, at least not that I could find.

You're kidding, right? Evernote has tons of competitors. A web search on "alternatives to evernote" makes them pretty easy to find. Some of them do allow import of Evernote content (though I was less than impressed at what OneNote did to my notes when I tried it several years back),

1 hour ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Not sure what's to request.

The request is exactly as stated. You don't need to be an Android dev or guru to make requests, nor does a request need to be something that's used by a large percentage of the user base. It's just a request; guesses/ information relating to sort of stuff is of course fine for other users to add, but ultimately it's up to Evernote to process and prioritize. And it's up to @Salvor to decide whether they want their post to be turned into something that other users can support via post and/or vote..Which is why I asked.

Not being an Android developer myself, I can't speak from a position of knowledge, but my guess would be that operations on Evernote stuff (make boldface, cut/copy/paste, date insertion, etc.) would need to be somehow exposed so that a user could make the connection between keyboard events and that API. If those operations aren't exposed by Evernote, then it would be up to them to do so. So yes, if my guess is correct, then yes, Evernote might indeed need to do something to make this possible. Again, I'm not an Android developer, so I could be way off (in which case, I'd be happy to be educated).

1 hour ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

But what the hey, it's your nickel. 

It takes about 5 seconds to do this. It's really just an organizational thing in many cases, though in this case, it's a courtesy to the original poster.

31 minutes ago, gazumped said:

adding a new note slams Evernote to the top of my disk usage chart at (when I just tried it) up 10MB/s traffic as against its normal 0.0-0.1. 

But for how long? If it's a temporary spike, then not a big problem, I'd think...

Remember, opening a new note, if I recall @dcon's notes,, means spinning up one of more of the Evernote subprocesses, which might be a factor. You could dig into things somewhat more deeply than Task Manager using SysInternal's ProcMon tool.

I'd be happy to move this to the Android request forum, so that other users can vote it up. I'd add a vote, too!

That would be more of an Android thing. Maybe try a web search on "android keyboard shortcuts" etc.?

6 hours ago, concek52 said:

My up line director uses Evernote to share templates with us.  I am not able to save this template to Evernote using the button "Save to Evernote".  How can this be fixed?

Just have your boss share a notebook with you that has any note templates they want you to use. Duplicate as needed.

I find the Evernote note template stuff less useful than just duplicating notes.

5 hours ago, Evernoterist said:

PLEASE PROVIDE AT LEAST ONE SOLUTION TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY REQUESTED 

Um, sure. But first, please make this request in a separate location than in someone else's specific request, 'cause it seems like you're breaking your own suggestion, y'know?

I'd suggest here, for starters: https://discussion.evernote.com/forum/53-evernote-general-discussions/

5 hours ago, kennix said:

Is there a way to stop "copy" from being appended to the end of the title of every Duplicated note?

Not any way that I know of. I suppose that you could export your template note to disk, and import it back in; in that case, you don't get the "copy" appended, but it winds up in a new notebook. Or you might be able to import it back in more cleanly using the ENScript importnotes command and a .BAT file or something

c:\bin>"c:\Program Files (x86)\Evernote\Evernote\ENScript.exe" importnotes /?

Usage: ENScript importNotes [options]

Options:

  /s {file|url} - source .enex file or url. If omitted, stdin is used to gather source specification.
  /n notebook - notebook to create the note in. If does not exist, lazy create. If omitted, use default notebook.
  /b notebook - business notebook to create the note in. If does not exist, lazy create.
  /u username - user name if not the same as database file name.
  /p password - user password to confirm Evernote service access.
  /d database - database file name if user name is not specified.

If both database file name and user name are not specified, last login name is used and
if there is none, USERNAME environment variable value is used as a user name.


M:\Global Mapper Trunk>

All of these entail some sort of work, though...

My test case:

• Create a dummy tag "xyzzy"
• Apply the tag to one of my test notes (that I use for texting Evernote glitches, etc.) that live in a notebook named "Test"
• Go to All Notes, and do a search for notes with that tag: tag:xyzzy
• The note is seen in the note list
• Right click on the note in the note list, select "Move to Trash"
• The note disappears from the note list.

Appears to work. Works the same with Assisted Search enabled or disabled.

mod: duplicate question merged

7 hours ago, jianfa.tsai said:

In Evernote Windows, when user selects multiple notes via note list, why aren't those app functions top first level menu greyed out? The second level sub-menu is greyed out but the first level menu isn't. If the subcommands don't work, then everything to the first level menu should be greyed out e.g. "Format" and others. Please test all. 

You already got an answer to this: 

Remember?

Regarding your topic title: "Why use notebooks instead of tags to quickly organise notes"?

It's a matter of taste, and some practicality. If you want to share a collection of notes to another account, you must use notebooks rather than tags. If you want to ensure that a collection of notes is always cached on a mobile device, then you mush use notebooks rather than tags. If you want to keep collections of notes locally on your computer on a desktop device, and never sync to the Evernote servers  then you must use notebooks, not tags. Otherwise, use notebooks and tags as you with. One good thing about tags is that they can be used across notebooks.

8 hours ago, jianfa.tsai said:

create a new note in your "unsorted" notebook titled "- RAW". add note "RAW" as an android widget shortcut to your phone. Instead of creating multiple new notes, just open the widget shortcut raw note and append all your notes to that single note 

Is there a better and quicker way to organise your notes?

I don't know, it's up to you. If you want to collect quick thoughts in a special note, then that's fine. It's not really much to do with organizing your notes, though...

8 hours ago, mstfacoskun said:

After this, I tried but I could not find (Tutorial was about generally interface, not about stacks..) how can I create stacks in a stack to add notes.

I add a screenshot to understand, how people creating stack inside of stacks. Maybe the topic would be spoken again...

Youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSz9uavfLpI

This screen showing after : 13:22 - https://youtu.be/kSz9uavfLpI?t=802

At this time, in Evernote:

• You cannot add a stack under another stack.
• You cannot add a notebook under another notebook.
• You cannot add a stack under notebook.
• You cannot add a note to a stack
• You can only add a notebook under a stack, and a note to a notebook

I don't know what you're trying to show us in the video, but at 13:22, the screen is showing a note under a notebook, which is the only place that a note can currently live in Evernote at this time.

To back up Moe's Cal's post, some references:

Evernote's advanced search syntax: https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/208313828-How-to-use-Evernote-s-advanced-search-syntax

A bit more technical: Evernote search grammar: https://dev.evernote.com/doc/articles/search_grammar.php

Basically, any search that begins with any: is an OR search. All other searches are AND searches. No mixing. You can get some measure of AND/OR behavior by using wildcards, for a contrived example, tag:data* language could be used to match notes that have either of the tags "database" OR "data structure"  AND the literal term "language", but that's not generally useful.

21 hours ago, barley123 said:

why does evernote have notebooks (given that it has tags)??

notebooks look like a one-tier folder system to me, and a folder system should be unnecessary with tags.

Notebooks are containers: every note belongs to exactly one notebook. Notebooks partition your notes into discrete collections. Stacks can be used to organize notebooks. You can use a notebook or a stack as a search context, or all notes.

Tags are labels: a note can have 0 or more tags, and a tag can be applied to any number of notes.

In Evernote, notebooks can be used for organizational purposes, but you must use notebooks to share collections of notes, designate a collection of notes as available offline on mobile applications, or designate collections of notes as local (i.e., unsynced) on desktop platforms.

Yes, stacks+notebooks present a simple two tier hierarchy. Tags allow you to express connections between notes across notebooks.

2 hours ago, Ric_ds said:

I don't know, anyway I'll cope with it. However, albeit great, EN sometimes makes me feel like I don't have freedom to choose over some features (like this one about "secondary" sorting) and have to cope with it. I don't know if there's a reason for this limitation, if not I think there's room for improvement in this direction.

Evernote has never had user-controllable secondary sort. Heck, it's not all that long ago (ok, a few years) that they even added a saveable primary sort, and even that was only part of the Windows product: it was always a global setting before. If there is some sort of consistent secondary sort going on, it may be just accidental.

Of course there's room for improvement, in many areas, but my guess is that it'll be awhile before we see much of that, at least until the new framework is in place.

Edit: I eventually tried out that sort-by-tag thing: I found cases where the tag sets were identical, but the ordering of created date was seemingly random, and ditto for updated date. Secondary sorting in Evernote is chimeric.

Apparently there is no shortcut for Merge in the Windows application. There's none shown on the Note / Merge main menu item, as there are for other operations that do have shortcuts (e.g. Note / "Move Notes      Alt+Shift+M").

There is no way to do this in Evernote at this time.

3 hours ago, markeh said:

Fix the problems first, then the paint job.

In general, sure, and clever metaphor, but sometimes the engine mechanic is busy when the bodywork person isn't. Not saying that's what happened, but in the real world, not all developers are equal.

I see this working fine with the Evernote Beta version (Evernote Web v5.30.0) in the latest (or very recent) Chrome on Win 10. The PDF shows in a large window, and if I click on the PDF header, the window outlines in blue, and I get a little popup widget with a download button and a "..." menu that has "Download", "View as Attachment", and "Full Preview" as menu items. Clicking "Download" opens the PDF in a separate windows, and from there I can print, download and peruse the document.