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  1. Amazon != Android? The Android version is certainly regularly updated. The Amazon Fire OS is based on Android, but not recent versions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS). So that's likely why it's fallen off of Evernote's radar.
  2. Conversely, if you're going to use Evernote's application(s), web services and storage for free, you shouldn't be surprised that they want to turn you into a paying customer. Kinda works both ways... Note: I use a free version for work, and I don't find update reminders to be too onerous. Maybe there's a setting to tone things down, but I can't remember seeing one. Can you screencap the upgrade notice, maybe that will jog my memory...
  3. Relevant topic in the forums: Look for posts from Evernote employees @Rich Tener and @Scott T. in particular.
  4. In violent agreement, once again... Just explaining where some of the "clipper" stuff comes from, where elsewhere it's "capture screen"...
  5. True enough, but it's the desktop clipper at issue here, and which, most likely for for backwards compatibility reasons, uses registry shortcuts with names that include "clipper". Plus the right-click menu from the Evernote notification bar item is "Clip Screenshot". So yes, there's some inconsistency here, but it's the screen capture functionality that's referenced here. The web clipper extension certainly has its own large-ish set of shortcuts, but they're only operative in the browser where the the web clipper was activated, as far as I can tell.
  6. Your method for disabling may work, but this is nonsense. The Evernote clipper doesn't "hijack" any key combinations; as best I know, it uses the Windows function RegisterHotKey() to try to register a system-wide hotkey that triggers the requested functionality. This is a standard WIndows API, and not bad practice. Evidently there's no Windows functionality to be able to arbitrate among competing hotkeys, so this is a first-come, first-served proposition ("This function cannot associate a hot key with a window created by another thread.") : if you're the first to register, you "win", if not, your hotkey doesn't work (i.e., it's not hijacking ANYONE ELSE'S PREVIOUSLY REGISTERED HOTKEY). It's up to the user to choose which keystrokes trigger which actions when there are conflicts. In the case of Evernote's defaults, you can configure them easily enough, or disable them altogether by making them blank using Tools / Options / Shortcut Keys. Funny, I use Visual Studio every working day, though not with Resharper, and I have no conflicts. The clipper is really handy for grabbing screenshots of UI or other aspects of whatever I'm working on. And as noted, you have the power to change them, or disable them if you don't want to use them. Your choice as to whether to muck around with the registry every time you update, or just use the tools provided by Evernote...
  7. The old (original?) CTO used to have a pretty good presence here. It was welcome, though he didn't always have good news for feature requesters.
  8. You're right -- that's not explicitly addresses. I think there's be a lot of unhappy people with that decision, if they made it, Some might be mollified if they also offered encryption on notes and/or notebooks. My sense is that they wouldn't eliminate local notebooks, but that's not based on anything by my (fallible) intuition, so it's be good to get that clarified.
  9. Of course, there's this: Money quote: Nothing about any new technology, not that that matters much, at least to me, except as curiosity only.
  10. Do I have to say it? Seriously, though : @Ian Small thanks for contributing your peek into the Evernote mindset, goals and development process. The 12% web usage was a little surprising (would have guessed lower), and using web for rapid prototyping makes a lot of sense, though the age-old problem of rolling out new features to the native applications seems to still remain. In any case, as an Evernote fan, and also a developer, I always appreciate that kind of clear and informative information out here in the wild, wild forums. Carry on.
  11. Conversely, people expecting to see Delete (and trained to do so via previous Evernote experience) get confused. Me, for example. I seem to always need a mental second to remember it's "Move to Trash" now. And after how many years? Yeesh. Anyhow, it's a problem with no good single answer, and it's not that big a deal in the grand scheme of my world.
  12. OK, fair enough. I haven't seen speculation about Electron, but I know for a fact that Google CEF (Chromuim Embedded Framework, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Framework) is being used now. Actually, after a quick web search, here's an article on the relationship between Electron & CEF: https://electronjs.org/blog/electron-internals-building-chromium-as-a-library. Interesting, but probably doesn't shed much light on the Evernote situation.Note: I'm not any kind of expert on this stuff. Developer, yes, but in a different world altogether.
  13. I've seen every rewrite that you have, as you know. I am a bit skeptical, sure, but open to improvement, and fortunately, since the web client isn't my daily workhorse, it's been no big deal that it hasn't been up to snuff to date. There are situations where I would use it more if it were better. Search: Type first letter to run the search. Typing a 2nd letter will run search again. Typing a 3rd letter will run search again. Going to be an issue when I want to search for multiple terms - for example: created:20150101 -created:20150701 tag:receipt -tag:quicken-done That's not complicated unless maybe you're easily distracted by shiny (or flashing) objects, I'd guess. Google searches the whole web this way; it doesn't seem to be a major bone of contention. I find the experience of instantaneous feedback to be quite useful in many cases including Evernote (it works fine for me in the Windows, though obviously it doesn't for everyone) , particularly for ad hoc queries. For longer ones, I'd use a shortcut if it was one I used often or had trouble remembering, but I understand that that's not always possible. Again, as I've emphasized in every related post I've made in this topic, responsiveness is the key to making this useful.
  14. Not sure what would be more complicated about it: you type, get some partial results while you're typing, maybe find what you're looking for earlier than had you typed out the whole query, in which case you choose it and move on. Otherwise, you finish the query and get the results you asked for (or maybe you've typo-ed and need to start all over again). Providing they get results back quickly enough as you type (think Google search speed, which seems fine usually), then it shouldn't be any bother. If not, then it's probably a deal-breaker. Like you, the web application is not really a common use case, but it's the only option for some users, and potentially a better option for some scenarios (one's that I'd use), so improving it is certainly something I'd like to see.
  15. Citation for this? They're currently using CEF for the editor engine in current applications, as far as I know; certainly for the Windows product. Note that I have't seen the new Windows beta either (as opposed to the standard Windows native application's beta track versions), so I don't have any sense as to how that's working.
  16. Seriously, people, unbunch. The sky is not falling... ...yet...
  17. I don't get it. The web version obviously needs work; it's been underwhelming for some time. It's the only option for Chromebook and as far as I can tell, the most viable option for Linux users. Why would anyone be scared about improving it? Nobody from Evernote has actually said that that's what's happening. Me, I think it's a sensible option for a number of reasons (some listed above), but the caveat is that performance must be reasonable (also stated above). As things stand today, the native Windows application is the clear winner over the Android application (which I use on my phone) and web application, which I only use very occasionally, usually in the case where I'm at work and want to get to something from my personal account.
  18. What specifically "didn't work"? What specifically happened when you selected 'Check for updates'?
  19. I've been thinking along those lines as well -- less with respect to Notion (less well-established, still seems to be in the realm of ooh-shiny, and not as approachable as I'd hoped), but more along the lines of what Gmail does. In fact, I've felt for a long time that Gmail is the secret email inspiration/model for what Evernote does with notes; it's the closest analogue that I can come up with, anyways. It's fairly simple and flexible and organizes using a tag-like scheme. Gmail is everywhere because it's browser based, and yes, it has search-as-you-type filtering, a feature that I really like. By contrast, Evernote has gone down the native application path, with attendant fits and starts, and platform-to-platform inconsistencies. If Evernote could replicate much of what their platform specific applications do (I use Windows primarily) in a browser-based application that has reasonable performance, then I'd be more inclined to use that than I am now. Some downsides / challenges: Local notebooks don't really fit this model: Not a big issue for me, but maybe note/notebook encryption mitigates this for folks who depend on this. Don't know how this fits in on Mac with respect to AppleScript users Need to offer export to local files The offline scenario is obviously a problem that needs to be addressed Still need to deal with form-factor differences. Again, draft behind Gmail in approach. I'm sorta coming around to the conclusion that the web-based approach is the best direction for Evernote, in terms of reducing development costs and improving consistency. But only so long as performance and responsiveness can be maintained -- that's the crux.
  20. I have no idea what you're talking about. The video describes an improved design for search on the the web application("Join Ian and Mariano, a senior designer at Evernote, as they discuss how they’re working to make search in web more interactive, more meaningful, and more useful."). Given the state of the current web application, that would be an obvious improvement, provided they can make it perform well. Whether it's what will appear on all platforms eventually -- as their stated aim is to equalize user experience across all Evernote platforms -- then I'll wait to see how it stacks up against the current Windows application, which I use a lot. It would almost certainly be an improvement in the Android application, which I use somewhat less frequently.
  21. Old New Thing!! Raymond Chen is awesome. I pretty much read him every day, even when what he's writing about doesn't apply to what I do.
  22. The rotate tools -- if they're the ones found in the right-click menu -- are part of Evernote, so they'd be the same for everyone. Size increases on in-built tools might result from losing existing compression when expanding for rotation, and then not decompressing before saving it back (or decompressing at a lower rate). Would need a lot more details about before/after image statistics to get a handle on what's happening under the hood...
  23. Well, they explicitly talk about the web application in the video, comparing the new dynamic search to the old static search. If it results in a better search experience on the web, well, yes. But if it's a template for the applications on all platforms, I'll be in wait-and-see mode...
  24. Oh, I remember that well. Folks thought they were being promised to-dos (which I didn't really need), but got reminders, and were flummoxed by it all. Shoehorned, maybe, but I actually appreciate how they did it, since reminders are just notes with a reminder date (plus a couple of other related fields). I think it's fine that they display in a separate, independently sortable sublist (at least in the Windows application). Turns that reminders work really well for me. I can't comment on the quality of their internal software design, because I'm on the outside (my experience leads me to believe that good design is nice to have, but often difficult to achieve in practice), but one of the difficulties is that there is not just one code base, but several, in different languages, for the different platforms. In any case, hopefully this is just an oversight -- and easily fixed -- rather than a design flaw. Being able to refine a search is important, particularly on mobile devices.
  25. Fair enough. I never knew that that was a thing in the Windows product; it's not really part of my use case. Removal may indeed have been inadvertent (so a bug, yes: contravention of design/spec, or unintended behavior) or intentional if it was somehow problematic (which would then be a design decision, not a bug, even if it removed prior functionality) or not directly supported in the new editor framework (not a bug either, though maybe a feature awaiting eventual implementation, so a prioritization issue). Hard to know for sure unless an Evernote staffer were to comment. No question that it's inconvenient to folks who've use this type of facility, though. Indeed; however one of the MS applications I use a lot is Visual Studio, has drag/drop editing as an option (turned off in my case: it's generally too slow for my purposes; I do much better with keyboard). The MS application NotePad doesn't have it at all. WordPad does, though, so that's something, but Microsoft doesn't make standards for other applications, or when they do, they can't/don't generally enforce them. Not saying that de facto standards aren't useful, but as before, there are any number of examples of applications that don't support this one in exactly the same way. That being said, the drag/drop editing behavior is consistent with Explorer file system drag/drop behavior (drag = move, Ctrl+drag = copy), so that does strengthen that particular metaphor. I first started using Evernote in earnest in 2008, and have ever since. I think that's a pretty good length of time. I've seen most of the iterations, from the misbegotten timeline version, through the fraught C# conversion, and on into the present. Over that time, I've seen bugs and useful features alike come and go in Evernote, but yes, bugs still exist to this day, as do features that never should have been. In my book, bugs and feature requests are much the same stuff anyhow: potential development work that needs to be recognized, understood, prioritized and possibly implemented. Moving this to the Windows feature request forum allows other users to upvote the bugfix/feature request, possibly giving Evernote some food for at least prioritization purposes, if not awareness of the regression itself. Anyhow, tomato, tomahto, ice cream, gelato: I do hope for your sake and that of other drag&dropppers that it's brought back, whatever it is (I upvoted it). Cheers.
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