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BurgersNFries

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  1. I've read the posts. I've been here much longer than you have. And please don't misconstrue what I said. If you *really* read what I posted & don't jump to a knee jerk reaction, you'll see you're not comprehending what I said. This is not "debate" & I fail to see why you need to drag "history" into this. The fact that you disagree with Evernote's decision is fine. But it's *their* product & *their* decision. Again, if this is a deal breaker for you, you should find an app that better suits your needs. It's really that simple. Also, once again...
  2. The same could be said about users who seem to think because they want something, Evernote should give it to them. Or users who can't accept the fact that maybe, just maybe, Evernote has discussed said feature & either put a low priority on it (for whatever reasons - time/resources (translate: engineer hours), other/more pressing priorities, etc) or totally nixed the idea altogether. Evernote never really has been about storing sensitive data, although they do allow you to encrypt text in notes. There are a lot of other ways to store sensitive data, including encrypting it & putting the file in Evernote. There are true password managers that handle stuff like this brilliantly. The fact of the matter is, if this is a deal breaker for you, you need to find another app that better suits your needs. Good luck with your search.
  3. I'm well aware that there are many threads where this issue is being discussed (a good indicator of the demand for this functionality), and with all things being equal (and this thread popping to the top of my search, yes, I used search), I chose to post here. That rather negative statement sets off so many alarm bells with me. 1: So a lot of users have this desire? 2: All those users are wrong for wanting that functionality? 3: They are also wrong for trying to clarify their desire with practical examples? It's all a bit reminiscent to the "You're holding it wrong" iPhone debacle. If a significant volume of users have an expectation of functionality that is unmet, maybe it should be looked into until a resolution or compromise is found. (clearly we are not there yet) At the end of the day, an application should be able to meet the needs of its users and adapt to how users wish to use it. Not all users are the same in terms of needs, experience, preferred interaction patterns, etc. And through good UX you can meet the needs of a varied user base. With good UI design you can have several methods of accomplishing a specific goal without any negative impact on other functionality. Just because tags are powerful (which I completely agree with) does not mean other methods of organization (especially visual) should be abandoned or are irrelevant. The addition of nested stacks does not detract from the value of tags, it merely supplements it and provides a visual representation of an organizational structure than many people are familiar with and inclined to expect. One great thing about good UI design is you can have apples AND oranges if you plan properly and the additional functionality does not create conflicts, clutter, or paradox of choice. Please keep in mind that just because I am expressing desire for an additional feature does not mean I don't like the application. I love Evernote, and I understand your desire to rush in and defend it. But lets not slam users for respectfully wanting more or varied functionality. First, no one said you are wrong for wanting this desire or asking for it & I don't even know where you pulled that from. I'm simply saying many of us who devote (freely) our time to this board are not going to reinterate what we've already posted in other threads. It's simple common courtesy to search a board on a topic that may have already been discussed. No software app is going to please all their users. It's impossible. Again, if you want more info on this topic that has already been discussed at great length, please use the search function. If you elect to not do that, that's fine with me as well.
  4. Much discussion already exists on nested/folders/stacks/notebooks/sub notebooks/sub stacks/etc. Please use the search function, if you want more info. Everyone seems to think posting an example will "enlighten" Evernote. Believe me, they get it. However, they've chosen a different methodology. And in a nutshell, I find nested whatevers limiting. Using tags, descriptive titles & keywords is MUCH more flexible.
  5. You seem to think because you think Apple products and Windows OS are inferior that that's a fact. Well guess what? It's not a fact & simply your opinion. Each has their own pros & cons as does Linux. WRT Evernote, you can always use the web client.
  6. Indeed! The board is littered with posts from people who say feature ___ (fill in the blank) is 'basic' & should have been included in EN from the beginning. If there is a single app that makes & keeps all their users happy, I've not heard of it. So we users need to decide what app works best for us & sometimes that takes some adapting on our end or finding a different product. I have my own complaints about Evernote & have posted them on the board. But the bottom line is that Evernote suits my needs better than any other app I've used & I have some workarounds in place to help deal with the shortcomings. My dealings with the people behind the company have been favorable as well. They are a very smart bunch & contrary to what a lot of people seem to think (based upon some of the posts on the board), they really care about their users & their products. But when you have over 60 million users, as you said, there are going to be some users who are not totally satisfied.
  7. In addition to not publishing their roadmap or ETAs, they do not publish why they've chosen to incorporate certain features (or not) or why features are a low priority. (Nor do they need to.) Of course they listen. However, listening doesn't mean they will give it a high priority or even put it on their to do list.
  8. Or....you could have gone into your settings & canceled your subscription, so it would not renew...
  9. It may be a bit convoluted, but that's a sample of what needs to be considered when adding or expanding on features. Sure, *you* may only want the *option* to share a stack. But the next person may have the issues Scott described. Many things that may appear to be simple to a user have a lot of implications under the hood.
  10. Thanks. Precisely what was required to be proved. We are not welcome here.Please point out where anyone has said (the generic) you is unwelcome. And please stop reinterpreting what is posted to be something it is not. As far as "useless replies" go, as I've stated at least a couple of times in this very thread that it's fine to post your desire for a linux client. But all the other debates (including yours) accomplish nothing. (Now those *are* useless!). AND... If you actually read & comprehended what was said, you'd realize there's some merit to the statement that Evernote has gone on record for not making a Linux client. If you don't get that, I don't know how to be any more clear. It's certainly not the baseless statement that you claim it to be. As far as your statement "then, please, stop behave like "there is" goes... I have no clue what that means. And once again...since I'm sucked into a pointless debate. So feel free to carry on.
  11. Then, please, stop behave like "there is". Yes, and that is why everybody here should stop making useless replies restating Evernote plans they know nothing about.And please stop making innocent and typical phrase like "have no plans for it" to sound like "never ever will release it even if the world ends as a result." Everybody here can understand this much. We are not small kids, you know.WRT your last statement, honestly...from your reply, it's really hard to tell, so thanks for the info.
  12. First, I'm sure there is no one who is "almost happy there is not a linux official version". Second, yes, company plans can & do change. But as has been pointed out above, EN rarely addresses future plans. Therefore, the fact that they are on record for planning on NOT doing a linux client speaks volumes. Sure they may change their mind someday. But users should not plan for that day. And other users would be wrong to encourage users to hope for that day. But feel free to add your +1's if that makes you feel better. Third, no one is disputing the importance (or lack thereof) of linux in today's computing world.
  13. Oh please. No one has said you shouldn't ask for a feature. But you seem to think b/c a feature has been asked for & not implemented that you are being ignored, which is simply not true. I've pretty much said all there is to say on this topic. You can learn from it or not.
  14. While this is, of course, true, it would be unwise for any software company to ignore [by which I mean set a request very low on the priority list] a vocal community of users. While there may be technological roadblocks to this feature that we are unaware of, a note from a Dev telling us this, and assuring us that they are working to meet our requests would go a long ways towards satisfying us. For example (and this is not vindictive, just a statement of fact), I currently tell my foodie friends not to use Evernote to digitize their cookbook collections, because I did so and it bothers me every day to see incorrectly-chosen thumbnails for all of my recipes. The only thing standing between me and moving my notes away from Evernote is time and motivation, but if this feature isn't implemented, I eventually will do so. I doubt I'm alone. We all have to make choices based upon what works for us. There is no way any company (Evernote included) can satisfy all their users, no matter how vocal they (the users) are. Certainly those requesting nested notebooks are at least as vocal as the "choosing my own thumbnail" camp & probably even for a longer period of time. And yet, Evernote has no nested notebooks nor any indication that particular feature is in the pipeline. Again, it's not that they are "ignoring" their users. Choices & priorities must be made. This feature is something that is a high priority to you & some others. I could not care less. Someone else will have yet another feature/fix that is the highest priority for them. Such is life. The rule of thumb that has been posted here many times is to deal with Evernote as it works now, rather than anticipating any future features. If it does not work for you now & you cannot or will not adjust your workflow to make it so, then another app is probably better suited to you. BTW, if I were one of your foodie friends, I would resent you telling me to not use EN Food simply b/c you're not happy with it. Especially since your decision is based on the thumbnail (per your post). I'm certainly capable of making my own decisions & knowing what works best for me. So unless your friends are not capable of making their own decisions, you may simply want to express your dissatisfaction with Evernote to them & let them decide for themselves, rather than telling them not to use it.
  15. I'm sure the feature request has not been ignored. It may be that it's very low on the priority list or that they have decided to not implement it. Simply because a feature is requested does not mean Evernote (or any other software company) will implement it. This about sums up their response to our user requests. My reply was to marcelo's specific question that you emphasized - can I somehow force Evernote to use a specific image as a thumbnail?. As to whether or not the feature request will ever be implemented, there is no way for any of us to know, since Evernote does not publish their roadmap.
  16. No one is saying you shouldn't ask for it or show support. But it's a waste of time & totally unproductive to go any further & try to gauge why they made the decision, pontificate why they should make a linux client, state that it would be "easy" to do, etc, etc, etc.
  17. "Stupid" is your opinion, to which you are entitled. I have no idea why my comment in an insult but again because yes, this has been hashed, rehashed, re-rehashed & deja vu all over again. But that's your opinion, so you're welcome to it. There's really nothing new to see in this thread. It's evolved to the point where all everyone is doing is speculation about why EN isn't making a Linux client & debating the validity of each others' arguments & your post is no different. So...once again... It's a business decision & like any decision, there are going to be people who disagree or even think it's "stupid". But that's life.
  18. I believe this is the first time I've seen the phrase "trick or treater" used in the same sentence with "healthier snacks". I'm guessing the number of TOT'rs you get next year will be signifcantly lower. (Word gets around!)
  19. I don't know how you convert what I posted to the company not wanting any suggestions for improvement. But it's not just you. It seems that's the default reply when the answer is not something the person wanted to hear. The reality is that EN does welcome suggestions for improvement. But just because it's something you think may be an improvement does not mean EN would agree. Or maybe they agree but either assign it a low priority or nix the idea (for whatever reason.) Hopefully that would make sense to you.
  20. As has been stated on the board many times, although Evernote provides simple to do lists, it is not striving to be yet another task/to do list manager. There are many good ones out there. It sounds like you would be better served by using one of those for your grocery list.
  21. This has been hashed, rehashed & re-rehashed. It's a business decision & it's odd that that is perceived as "giving the full finger". It's not b/c EN hates linux and/or linux users. Anyone who dislikes the existing options (IE web client, Nixnote) can use the EN API to build their own linux client, if they'd like.
  22. EN does not discuss their roadmap or ETAsThere is no indication EN has any plans to add sub notebooksStacks, notebooks, tags, keywords & descriptive titles are very effective at organizing & retrieving notes. This has been discussed at great length on the board already. Please search the board on sub notebooks/sub folders/nested notebooks/etc. for more info, should you need/want it.
  23. This has been discussed already a lot on the board. Please search the board for more info. In a nutshell, EN uses notebooks, stacks (groups of notebooks), tags, descriptive titles & "keywords" to organize your notes. This is a much more flexible method than nested notebooks, IMO & IME, especially the more notes you have.
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