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  1. There's a preview version of Joplin that has OCR. 😃 Optical Character Recognition (OCR) | Joplin (joplinapp.org) https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/ocr-in-joplin-how-to/16531/8 Just sharing, I don't know the extent of the functionality or ability to handle files like PDF's, so still might not work for everyone's needs.
  2. Zero problem downloading on Windows 11 using HTTP or HTTPS. 😕 Instead of pointing someone to File Hippo where they're getting who knows what, it's still available from Evernote. If someone needs it for whatever reason (which is none of my business or concern), there it is. 😀
  3. You don't even have to do that. It's still available, directly from Evernote's CDN. EDIT: made the link HTTPS for easier access https://cdn1.evernote.com/win6/public/Evernote_6.25.2.9198.exe There's even a link to it right on this forum: If there's a later version than 6.25.2.9198 just edit the above URL to contain the version number you need.
  4. Not all notes are just 'notes'. My notes are knowledge and reference acquired over the past 16 years of using Evernote in my profession. I reference things constantly that I may have saved from years ago that have absolutely saved me in given situations. Websites and online references come and go, my notes do not. Colleagues will ask me questions and I'm able to get them the correct answer quickly saving them and our client's valuable time. Your use case is not the same as everyone else's. Simple as that.
  5. Maybe I'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but I've never seen a company make so many acquisitions in such a short period of time of so many and different apps that had any level of focus and ability to handle/manage them, let alone scale them all at once. These are serious red flags to me. Time to find an alternative to Robo Killer I guess too before that subscription goes up 2x in a year.
  6. Dave, thank you (I think) for the reasonable response. I'm attempting to reply to you respectfully, so if you misinterpret something, that's not the intent. I'm rarely, if ever, the 'it costs too much' guy. Quite frankly, I'm more known for paying for anything and everything in regard to professional tools which in my case aren't always covered by the company I work for with Evernote being one of them. I personally pay approx. $125/m in various productivity related services that I both find and derive value from. I find the year over year increase of Evernote egregious when looked at in the broader context of the products development and issues over the years. I can't recall if it was you or someone else who said so, but it's a money grab and shake down of customers after an acquisition, plain and simple. Bending Spoons can't get $340M in venture capital and not show investors returns for very long, so this is part of the plan, I get it, but I chose not to be a part of it either. It's clear you don't feel the same way and we can agree to disagree, everyone gets to have their own opinion. I never said, 'no one with any brains would use it' or anything remotely close to that; that's how you chose to interpret the statement. For many years, I thought Evernote was an absolutely brilliant, best in class application. While I didn't do so on this forum, I sang its praises loudly and couldn't imagine it not being an integral part of my professional life. If there's 'drama' surrounding my departure, it's knowing that along with the draining and frustrating process of leaving (which doesn't have to be). I'll wind up spending (likely) a dozen hours or more on it over the next few weeks which has a very real cost to it both in dollars and lost personal opportunities. I think its predatory behavior for Evernote or anyone else to use proprietary data formats that make it more difficult for unsuspecting customers to leave who generally don't find that out until it's too late. That's specifically why I said, "Whatever you go with, make sure it supports robust export system with more standards-based options..." because the average user isn't thinking about this and should be educated on it as a potentially deciding factor on the product/service they might want to use. I'm willing to admit I see this from a different perspective, because I run into it constantly with IT services and SaaS companies who make it difficult for their customers to leave. It's a common and known industry strategy whether people chose to acknowledge it or not. For the record, you don't have to 'learn markdown'. While you can (if you wanted to) it's not necessary in most apps and handled for you. For the context in which I'm referring to markdown, it's simply a data format that's standards based, meaning anyone who wants to use it can, so many modern applications support it. For an application like Obsidian (which stores all notes in markdown format), the data is right there, you can quite literally just copy the files to another directory, open them in another markdown-based note app and they'll open exactly as they were. There's no "import" and "export". It's portable, transparent and therefore end user friendly -- not trying to lock you into an ecosystem or platform. I've tried Obsidian previously, but it's not right for me and the data sync (an absolute requirement of mine) at the time wasn't reliable, but maybe that's been addressed. And before someone tries to call me out, yes, I realize that Notion isn't storing data in purely markdown language. I don't know what they're using in the backend, nor do I care, as long as I can get the data that's important to me out in a known and widely accepted format. Their 'export' will have some amount of translation likely involved. I'm going into it fully knowing that but looking at the larger picture of what Notion is offering for my current needs. Everything is a trade-off and I'm not calling Notion some perfect unicorn solution. They all have problems, and I very well might go running from Notion in a year or two as well, but I've already done some amount of due diligence in what's involved and what tools are available. That's (genuinely) great! I'm sure it works fantastically for many others as well who'll have no issue in paying $129/yr or whatever it goes to in the future. It worked amazingly for me until it didn't. The product has had (in my opinion) a clear and steady decline for the past several years. Even with that, if there was a modest price increase, which is completely justifiable and understandable (if for no other reason infrastructure costs which can't just be absorbed), I'd have stayed on bandwagon. It's the fact that there is no other offering, no other tier in-between, or no optional add-ons for the AI features, rather just 'take it or leave it'. That was final blow for me on top of the slew of product issues, particularly over the last 1-2 years. Go back and read my original rant in another thread. I never specifically called out you or anyone else saying you should or shouldn't use Evernote. I said (and was called narcissistic for it) what I felt about the current situation, what I wanted out of the product and "it's time to go" which was and entirely a reference to myself. I was clearly venting and letting my displeasure be known, because while they might not post or reply, I would be shocked if no EN or BS employees read this forum. If they don't, that's an even bigger red flag about the company and their ignorance towards their users. Yes, emails were sent to ' feedback@evernote.com' and 'federico@evernote.com' but not for a millisecond do I think they'll get a response or have any impact whatsoever. The only language understood here will be dollars and/or euros. Users such as yourself chose to respond which is fine. It's a user forum and generally expected, but it wasn't directed at you personally or anyone else. Many love to point out, "we can't do anything about it" as if I don't understand the concept of forum (hello, been using these since 1984) -- so, quite simply, don't reply. Some people (not necessarily you) very obviously take great offense to any negativity or criticism levelled at the product or company as a personal affront. That's not my problem. If anyone wants to "leave it at that" -- awesome. Don't reply or continue to reply to my posts. My remaining time here is limited, and I'll go away soon enough. 😃
  7. This is such a waste of time speaking to a brick wall and likely my last. I know this is complicated for you, but I said, "For me, I'm going to Notion because it's the best overall package for my needs." Get it? I didn't say, "Notion is the best alternative solution for all current Evernote users". Notion is in fact much more complicated than Evernote and I'll use it for much more than just 'notes'. It integrates with other business apps like Click-Up and Sunsama that I also use on a daily basis bringing more value overall, for me, than just Evernote. It's up to each user to determine what's right for them. That said, getting data out of Notion (in the context of notes) while not perfect, isn't as fraught and challenging in comparison to Evernote. Specifically for notes (e.g. 'Pages' in Notion speak): Markdown and CSV are near universal that can be imported into many other 'note' apps worth looking at. Here's 15 of them: Unique 15 Best Markdown Note-Taking App (2022) - The Desk of A Lawyer (deskoflawyer.com) Let's contrast that to Evernote where to get any reasonable level of export it's... ENEX. Their own proprietary and insufferable format. Fortunately, enough people have been burned by Evernote that several have written somewhat sufficient conversion tools that are freely available. Going to/from any of these apps at best difficult, but some make it easier than others. Is the process easy? NOPE. Is it a perfect conversion? NOPE. Is the entire process lengthy and frustrating each having challenges? YEP. Frankly, most people won't be able to figure it out. Therein lies an Evernote strategy, get users established and make the process of leaving painful enough using a proprietary data format that they won't do it.
  8. This is just one of things so many people don't seem to understand or appreciate. They think it's a simple math problem where X people leave, Y people stay and that's it which is (IMO) entirely short sighted. For every person complaining here and likely leaving, they'll essentially torpedo Evernote in every discussion they can from here on out. I've introduced Evernote to countless people (likely hundreds) over the past 16 years and actively have 4 direct colleagues using it. All of us have been discussing, are equally frustrated, leaving and will actively go out of our way dissuade anyone from using the product in the future. Being in the IT industry we're seen as thought leaders who average users come to for advice and guidance. Every time I go into a new business we're consulting with (which is near weekly) the "what do you use" conversation for apps is one of the first things that comes up. They'll get recommendations along with the "absolutely stay away from..." list which Evernote is now a part of. No app is 'perfect' -- I think we can all accept that. For me, I'm going to Notion because it's the best overall package for my needs. Whatever you go with, make sure it supports robust export system with more standards-based options like 'markdown' and not a proprietary format like Evernote.
  9. Have already begun the process. Notion, here I come -- should have done this years ago. The irony is that I'm willing to pay more for it! This is incredibly naive. As a business, one of the most valuable things you can have from your customers is feedback, positive and more importantly negative, especially from those that have been with you for sixteen years. The absolute last thing you want is for people to leave your services with no explanation at all. Just because you personally don't like seeing it doesn't mean it isn't valuable and in fact you should welcome the criticism instead of seeing it as annoyance. Nobody likes seeing their work critiqued, but often it's warranted and what's needed to improve and succeed. Hopefully you'll get your wish though, and people leave in droves so the forum can be a happy, quiet place where everyone just heaps praise on the product. I can't be alone, and time will tell what Bending Spoons does or doesn't do with the product. Good luck and be careful what you wish for! I've tried to delete my forum account, but that feature isn't working either (shocking). Can you 'report' that too?
  10. The crew of Evernote apologists and sycophants on this forum is what I'll miss the least.
  11. I'd really like to know what the management team of this company is smoking. "Hey Guys! We bought Evernote which has been losing subscribers for years! We have a GREAT idea!! Let's more than double the base price only offering a handful of features absolutely nobody was asking for!!! IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING!" Doubling the price in a single year is insanity without offering a tier in-between. It's like Bending Spoons wants to see how quickly they can drive this thing into the ground. I don't want AI gimmicks and features nobody is asking for. Give me a rock solid product and team that actually listens to their everyday user base and implements simple features that would greatly improve quality of life. I'll pay another $20/yr for that happily and gladly! As a PAYING Evernote user since 2008 with 321 notebooks and ~5K notes, I'm out. The only thing preventing me from doing so is time and complexity. I've watched Evernote devolve into a continually worse product over the years with management teams who ignore the vast majority of their daily users. It's time to go.
  12. Are folks still expecting this to change? It should be very clear by now... Evernote doesn't care about what their paying users (you know -- the ones that actually use the app daily) really want. Instead, they want to focus things that will make it more friendly for your Nana to store her recipes in. Just look at the abomination (at least is was the last time I looked) that is the beta of what the 'new' app is supposed to be. I've given up asking about improvements, because suggestions go without even being acknowledged. If you really want to change the icon it can be done if you're willing to put a little effort in and learn a couple of tools. The problem then becomes you have to repeat the process every time the app is updated as your changes will revert back. I did it for a while, then gave up, because it became a hassle I didn't feel like dealing with. Which is what Evernote wants you to do... just give up and succumb to whatever they want you to use. After almost 10 years of paying for "Premium" and almost 4K notes (probably a lightweight compared to some) this will likely be my last year. Apparently, I won't be the only one with users leaving in droves along with much of Evernote's executive team. This will be another silicon valley fairy tale of how to spectacularly drive a company into the ground by not listening to your core audience. Kudos!
  13. All - Please up vote if you think the icon should be changed or in some way a selectable option. Thank you for your input and ideas. It's driving me nuts!
  14. Hi, I'm usually very accepting of when applications update UI / UX. Things change and I get that not everyone will like it, however I'm hoping compromises and options can be made. I personally have issue with the redesigned tray icon. IMO, it's no longer easily identifiable given that most of the Windows native icons in the task bar are monochromatic as well. I'm constantly clicking on the icon throughout the day and now it just blends in with everything else making it much more difficult (for me anyway) to use. May we have different options for this icon? A green variant again? Maybe one with a green outline? Just something to provide additional options with more contrast that better stand out. Regards -
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