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Yay! They did this! 🎉 Maybe I spoke too soon? This is what I'm seeing on Mac Desktop v10.82.2 but I was forced to update my 10.60 something version on my Windows Desktop and now I have Windows Desktop v10.82.2 and am seeing it back on the toolbar there. So who knows... but I give up.

Yeah - especially with regards to the "This is unfortunate because this way the attachment and the note are not linked anymore" part. I think that Evernote could possibly open the attachment directly in the target application (but could be a huge technical lift and collaboration*), but it would be nigh technically impossible (as far as browser sandboxing goes) to allow the native app to make a change to the attachment and have that attachment automatically updated back to the web app. *Even opening the attachment directly in a native app could also be quite difficult. I've seen this happen in two cases that I can think of off the top of my head: Zoom meetings and MacOS App Store. But in both of those cases, the owner of the site was the same owner of the app. Seems like it would be technically difficult, but I don't know. I just haven't seen it that much.

Even if I was an avid fan of the AI Edit feature (which I'm not), I'm confident that I'd still think it's super annoying to have that little menu constantly popup like that. Why not just have a hot key for it? I know they might add a setting for it or change it somehow -- just like they added in a settings to disable the "Press / to insert an element" -- but it's almost like they are going to keep pushing different things to see how in-your-face they can make it without getting too much user pushback. It's getting kind of frustrating and exhausting.

Yeah - your #2 and #3 have been around for quite some time (but they were a different color before the UI Revamp) -- at least since 10.50.2. Referenced here: https://tamingthetrunk.substack.com/p/oh-my-new-features-galore-with-evernote (with credit to @Jon/t for the awesome blog.)

Ah - For tasks in a single note, can't you just select them all with the mouse (click and drag) and then press the delete key?.. As long as they are grouped altogether? Your usage of tasks is probably different from mine. I love the Tasks feature, but I'll typically only have a maximum of 2 or 3 tasks per note. If I have a bunch of todos in a singular note then I'm probably going to use checklists for that. Also, just to make sure we are talking about the same thing: ?

@ThomasCee One other one you might want to check out if you haven't already is UpNote. It's Evernote-like and runs on PC, MacOS, Linux, iOS, and Android. Sync is pretty good. No web client. It is missing some features that Evernote has, but it also has some features that Evernote doesn't have. Max attachment size is just 20 MB. Has a great Evernote ENEX importer. I've heard web clipper is OK, but probably not near as good as Evernote (but no personal experience). It's like a dollar or two a month for the Premium subscription (so you can try out all the features inexpensively), $30 lifetime. (Lots of discussion in these forums over if that is sustainable long term or not.) It's run by a couple of Indie developers based in Vietnam. (Data is stored in Google Firebase in the US, but still lots of debate on security and long-term viability.) You can set up a daily export to markdown -- super slick. Don't put any PII/sensitive documents in there -- which we shouldn't be putting into Evernote either. See https://medium.com/upnote and https://www.reddit.com/r/UpNote_App/top/?t=year While Evernote has been my daily driver for 10+ years (three of those years being v10), I've had UpNote for a couple of years and I like to dabble and tinker with it every once in a while. I think it's a pretty slick app.

On Desktop and Web -- deselect the 'Show completed' under the ellipses button: It's similar on mobile: Tasks -> ellipses -> View options -> Show completed tasks

I don't know about any public policy about feedback (does anybody really have a "Here is our Public Policy About User Feedback"?), but I think they do take feedback from users. The product lead, Federico, has been actively commenting at various times on this forum. His last post: And I'd be surprised if he (and they) didn't read a whole bunch more and just not comment. He's also really active on X and engages with users there: https://twitter.com/fedesimio (See also the official Evernote X account: https://twitter.com/evernote) With millions of users though, I wouldn't expect any personalized response anywhere.

So then if I have text selected and I press '/', you suggest to not replace the text with the '/' character just yet, but wait to see what the user will do with the slash commands first? If I press Esc to dismiss the commands then we replace the selected text with the '/' character, but if I type 'c' (because I'm going to type 'cod' to get the 'code block' command filtered, I'm not going to use the mouse to click on it) then... what happens with the 'c' character as far as showing in the note? Nothing because it's still in the menu of slash commands and we haven't determined yet if I'm going to do a command or not?

I'm not sure what Ernst meant by "No problem here with Evernote 10.81.4 on macOS" -- MacOS does the same thing: when I select text and press '/', the text is replaced with a '/' key and then the slash commands popup up. I think they *could* intercept the slash and only popup the slash commands when you have selected text, but how would they know you wanted to encapsulate the text with a code block and you actually did not want to replace the text with a slash? The way the slash command is handled in this case in Evernote is the same way that both (for example) UpNote and Obsidian handle the slash command.

Well, for those of us on Personal, perhaps the AI Edit will be a Professional feature only so it will go away. oh - yikes - I've seen a vision of the possible future and here it is: (Note - this was just a joke.)

Had me in the first half...

Yay! They did this! 🎉 But now... I select just one more character... This constant popup on text selection is even more annoying IMO. 🤦

I've had mixed results with speed over the years. v10 has never been as quick as Legacy, but at times it has been good enough for me. Just now though, I clicked on an internal link and nothing happens, wait 5 seconds and it dumps me to the "Home" page. I click the back button and it takes me to the internal link I clicked on in the first place. That whole process took 7 or 8 seconds. Sometimes if I click again on the link before it dumps me to "Home" it will load all the notes and take me to a random note and then I can click the back button and it will take me to the right now and I can save a couple of seconds. This is on 10.82.2 of Mac Desktop direct download. I bring up the 'Switch To' command and 'switch' to filter by a different tag -- nope it keeps me at the same filtered tag. So I repeat the 'Switch To' command and this second time it works. I click on a note in that filtered-by-tag list and it loads that note ok, then I click on an internal link and instead of taking me to that note, it dumps me in the notebook and takes me to the fist note in the list. Perhaps it's my use of 'Switch To' and tags that is different at the moment here from many of you. I don't use notebooks as I organize by tag instead and I generally use the 'Switch To' command to find things vs the regular search in the side bar.

It may be surprising to know that not everyone uses Evernote the way that you do. For example, some people use web clipping and/or email-to-note quite heavily. Do you? I don't. So what may be a good alternative for me won't need to do web clipping or email-to-note and if I suggested one of those two you, you might scoff if you relied heavily on them. For a forum search on alternatives: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adiscussion.evernote.com+alternatives Also check out: https://noteapps.info/apps/compare It's worth exploring. In the end, you may realize that Evernote v10 is the best all things considered for your personal use cases and preferences... or not. Also this: "now I cant access anything...", sounds like an issue with your particular setup that needs to get worked out and/or start another thread just for that and give details. Perhaps someone can offer help.

@Excited Evernote User You could give this a try as a temporary workaround until they fix the issue:

I wonder if you kind of answered your own question/statement in that first sentence with that second sentence -- you've paid for a product for over 12 years even though open source products have existed that whole time. (Edit - oh perhaps you haven't been a subscriber that whole time -- but for a good chunk of it anyway?) Note that Obsidian itself is not an open source product and Obsidian developers are (basically) paid staff, so... Obsidian is fantastic, but requires a lot more technical know-how and maintenance than Evernote -- plus there are things that are just not as good as Evernote -- saying this as a fan of both. Many people do and will prefer Evernote (just not you anymore). I also get the impression that the Evernote staff is a lot leaner ("and meaner"?) than before, plus with their price increases and limiting of free plans -- I'd guess (SWAG) that they are making hand-over-fist compared to before.

I agree with your overall comment and hope to see improvements there as well but I dunno about this one part. There was a big learning curve for the new team to handle and a lot of legacy debt for them to tackle and they were working through all of that and now seem to be getting their feet under them and are doing a lot of things fast now. Just off the top of my head in the last couple of months: UI revamp, collapsible headers and lists, big AI Edit improvements, slash commands, (finally) allowing for center and right alignment of an image, Outlook calendar integration, mobile home change/testing. I'm probably missing some. So again - yes - hopefully we see some improvements there for the things you touched on.

Hrmm - interesting. I wonder when that changed. They used to put a version number on the downloaded executable too and now it's just "Evernote-latest". It seems that the exact version number is at least a little bit less meaningful than it used to be due to more server-side switches for feature-enablement and some A/B testing. Semi-related it made me think about this again: People often say "I'm on the latest version" when sometimes they are really not. They just think they are because when they click "Check For Updates" it says they are up-to-date or maybe they got a recent update. Tested "Check For Updates" just now (from a direct download install) and got this: Edit: whereas we know that's not the latest version... there have been several releases since then.

IMO Evernote is really awesome software. I love it. I loved Legacy and I've gotten used to and love v10. Many things are better in v10 than in Legacy. I wish we could take the best of Legacy that we don't have in v10, but such is not the case. ...but I also have to agree with this quoted comment. In my own experience, Evernote is probably the buggiest software I think I've ever used -- especially the last 16 months or so has been at least a little bit of a bumpy ride for me personally. They are fixing a lot of technical debt and doing a lot of rewrite which could cause that (plus not having as many years of experience -- SME -- as the previous team) -- that's bound to cause a few bugs. However, they are also doing A/B testing on users of a productivity app which I think is counter-productive to productivity IMO. (And perhaps its always been pretty buggy at various times -- see the infamous https://jasonkincaid.net/evernote-the-bug-ridden-elephant/) Plus, I also use Evernote just as much or more than most software so I'm more prone to notice bugs I'm sure.

I don't think the slash commands are meant to be scrolled, they are meant to be filtered. You do a slash command when you know what you want to insert. So if you want a code block, you type '/cod' and then hit enter.

For me too. It took me many months to adapt to v10 at first and there are still things I miss about Legacy (for me it's multiple tabs (only on Mac), changing the modify date, speed), but overall v10 is a better product and I wouldn't go back to Legacy if it would mean missing out on all the things in v10 that I really like.

There is a css variable called "--task-height". It is set at 40 pixels high. It looks like this (also as shown above) If it were changed to be 26 pixels then you get a more compact look: (So I think as far as changes go, this one would be fairly easy to change if they were so inclined.) Some people like the space, some people want it more compact, and some people want it somewhere in between. I think the new UI revamp direction is to space things out. On web, you can override things like that --task-height property fairly easy with tools like Tampermonkey if you are so inclined. On Desktop it's more difficult (AFAIK) and on mobile (especially iOS) nigh impossible. There have been a few requests in the forum for Bending Spoons to give us some control over the look and feel (including spacing) of different elements. I've never heard any mention that they'll ever do that.

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