Boot17

I'm on 10.86.2-mac-ddl and I'm not seeing the AI Edit popup button at the moment. No mention of it's removal in the release notes -- unless I missed it. Anybody else seeing similar?

(And who knows when it could be back... and in greater numbers. 🤣)

Hrm - and (if it wasn't a mistake) they'd have to allow decryption of encrypted content else we'd be locked out of part of our notes. Then would they not allow it to be edited or anything? Will be interesting to see.

And being on Personal, I had earlier wondered "Well, for those of us on Personal, perhaps the AI Edit will be a Professional feature only so it will go away." Hopefully we don't see in-app adverts to try and get us to upgrade to AI Edit like this: 

Edit: I'm on 10.86.2-mac-ddl and I'm not seeing the AI Edit popup button at the moment although I can still use AI Edit on Personal for now.

Can you not install a Desktop client somewhere? That would be the easiest way.

There are other 3rd party products (some free, some not) that can also export them. Here is a free one that I see mentioned quite often that several people on the forums use: https://pypi.org/project/evernote-backup/ -- but it's pretty technically involved. You have to install this on your local computer and run some commands and it will login to Evernote's servers using your user ID and password and it will download your Evernote data to your machine into ENEX format.

Maybe the 3 months refers to roughly the point in time where they finally got their feet under them having tackled a lot of the technical debt and feeling comfortable enough with the domain knowledge to start shaking things up a bit and pushing out a lot of new features. But, yeah, they were making some changes before 3 months ago. The initial AI Note Cleanup came out like almost 10 months ago or so?

I was starting to be on my way out due to the v10 UI Revamp from January/February. The 'Press "/" to insert an element', AI Edit Popup, Files Feature, Green to Blue internal links, increased line spacing and probably more (that I can't remember off the top of my head) just confirmed it for me.

I loved v10 and I was actually fine paying up to $200 a year because I got so much value out of Evernote up until a couple of months ago.

However, I need a stable Evernote to be productive. Probably 90% of my usage is for productivity work and 10% usage is for archive/file storage. I'm sure if those numbers were flipped it might be a different story for me. The constant churn, bugs, and beta and A/B testing on users gives me a feeling of loss of control and unproductiveness and some of the recent changes just aren't for me. I feel like I'm on shaky ground and I keep wondering what is going to change or break next? Maybe it works for their bottom line and they should do what is best for them, but I have to do what is best for me too.

Perhaps I'll be back if and when the dust ever settles.

Yeah - ignoring it is the key. It takes the same number of keystrokes to enter a date as it did before. Slightly annoying though.

They could tweak the slash command menu so that it doesn't appear if the '/' is preceded immediately by a number. This is the case in at least one other app that I currently use that supports slash commands. In that app, it seems more intuitive when the slash command appears and it can also be toggled off altogether.

I hope/suspect we'll see some minor tweaks for improvements in the coming weeks/months.

Pardon the US formatted date.  🤣  I generally type dates in YYYY-MM-DD format, but that's not a good example for the slash command menu. 😃 

3 hours ago, fsigworth said:

I am a professor and use Evernote as a lab notebook, where I am keeping track of the steps in my data processing using the university's computer clusters.  These computers use the Linux operating system, which has lots of use of '/' to mark directories. It is a disaster now when I want to put in something like

cp ~/big_data_file.mrc tmp/archive/20240415/

and the text gets automatically converted to a TO-DO ITEM! I haven't found a good way to recover from this.

And, by the way, I also use the Terminal app on my Mac and have to deal with the same syntax.

This situation is entirely unacceptable. PLEASE allow us to turn this 'feature' off!

I support the feature request to disable slash commands entirely, but is there no way for you to copy and paste a directory path? 

Not sure what terminal type you are using on Linux, but with Terminal on Mac, it's faster to copy and paste the directory path and less prone to typos and you'll also avoid the slash command menu while you are at it.

I share similar thoughts. This recent constant change of how my notes look and sometimes function (blue internal links anybody?, press '/' to insert an element?, AI Edit, AI Edit, AI Edit) along with A/B and beta testing on users and sometimes buggy releases has been somewhat of a turn off for me personally. 

You can't turn off auto updates and so installing a slightly older version will only be a temporary reprieve.

1 hour ago, enfan-01 said:

Don't get your panties in a knot, I'm not trying to belittle anyone.

2 hours ago, enfan-01 said:

Maybe it's easy to be satisfied with V10 when all you use it for is hoarding random notes on how to clean your underwear with vinegar.

👀

I'm not sure -- it's working for me from my mobile. I'd try a different device and/or internet connection to see if you can get through and troubleshoot it.

Very cool. I wondered if one reason Evernote didn't have this before is because they didn't want to encourage long notes because those were more prone to sync problems. Now with the very robust RTE, sync issues aren't as big of a problem (at least in my own usage and experience).

Nice to see them implementing this.

@Swizz Here is what happens when I try and create a new account using my existing account credentials:

It won't let me create a new account.

Try it again with your most recent email address and I suspect you'll see the same error message.

So even though you are 100% sure, I'd suggest you look through old emails from Evernote and try and figure out under what email the previous account might have been created.

11 hours ago, Farbauti said:

But also in v10 some "<" and ">" inside code blocks are now replaced by little arrows.

Yeah - one of the take-aways for me in this thread is that those arrow ligatures are also being done in the code block -- and I don't think they should be done there either. (similar to how "---" shouldn't (and doesn't) translate to a divider in a code block.) Hopefully it's just an oversight with a new feature implementation.

I've seen reported that BS has plans to add syntax highlighting for specific languages in the code blocks so hopefully (/perhaps?) they are planning to do some major work to it and will address it then (if they know about it)

4 hours ago, BLK Dragon said:

Oh common, BS has broken 'code block'

FWIW, BS didn't break code blocks as far as adding bold/italic/color. It has been this way since the inception of v10 -- well before BS got involved. I'm not aware of anything BS has done to make it worse per-se except for the arrow ligatures.

4 hours ago, AlbertR said:

So what’s „later“?

"Later" is like when you run into an old acquaintance and you each say we should hang out "sometime" and catch up. In these cases "later" and "sometime" mean the same thing... "never". 😃 

2 hours ago, kguske said:

(edit: looks like only the top level can be collapsed, but that's still a huge benefit)

I might not be understanding exactly what you meant by that, but if I'm understanding correctly, then I'm not sure that's accurate:

When collapsed, Header 2A will hide it's content and any sub-headers under it until it reaches an equal or greater header or a divider:

I agree with you OP. Also a recent related thread: 

I'll bet we start to see a lot more complaints about this come in and hopefully they'll change their minds and reverse this decision once they realize how many people loved and depended on internal links being easily discernible from external links. This was especially huge for links to other Evernote notes that you didn't want to be internal because you were sharing a few documents with outside people.

This loss of difference in color is not just a cosmetic change, it's actually a huge feature deprecation.

@david_woznyorg By "mess around with exporting to a browser" did you mean tapping this button in the top right-hand corner?

Just wanted to make sure that you knew tapping that button would open that URL in Safari (your preferred default). It is, unfortunately, still a two step process (tap that button, then tap 'Done'), but it's less steps than clicking the 'Share' button.

oof - yeah

I like the green color for internal links so much that I copied that green style for internal links in the new tool I am migrating too. I can't say this purple blue change is really going to impact me so much since I'm using Evernote less and less these days.

This is kind of another example of a disruption nail for me. (Other nails include the constant AI Edit popup, the increased padding everywhere, the UI redesign in general, the constant tweaking/disruption and feeling of a loss of control.)

2 hours ago, s2sailor said:

I have tried other apps and know for a fact that I can leave.

Yeah - I've been pretty impressed with Evernote's ENEX export and other tools support for it. It has made it easier transition to something else for me. (Looks like it's going to stick... I was just kind of toying with it at first.) The easy part is copying content over, the harder part is the mindset change and workflow adjustments.

Also -- no escaping for me. 😃  Even though I am (95% sure I am) migrating away, I still think Evernote v10 is pretty great software, but I think I've found something that will suit my style and needs a little better.

Weird. Cmd-Z opens the find dialog for me too if the note editor doesn't have the focus. If the note editor has the focus (and the cursor is blinking), then Cmd-Z behaves as normal. (MacOS Evernote v10.84.3).

But then I restarted Evernote just now and can't get Cmd-Z to open the find dialog again.

Ah - k. If quotes were used, sometimes iPadOS/iOS devices are set to use "smart quotes" which messes up the search in general (and I thought it would mess up the intitle search as well).

FWIW, I tried a few different intitle searches between my iPhone (10.83.0)  and Desktop Mac (10.84.3) just now and got the same number of notes found on each device.

@justacat Are you enclosing the search terms in quotes following "intitle" -- or is it just a one word search term you are looking for?

Good eye. I took a little screenshot before manually updating on my Mac and these are the results:

Still there for me too and I'm never going to connect a Calendar.

Well, this profile pic update is the best I can do. 😎

Old me for reference:

On 3/28/2024 at 10:14 AM, Boot17 said:

On 9/20/2023 at 7:17 PM, Boot17 said:

Yeah - hoping they move the prominence of it towards the end of the tool bar once it's out of beta or at least give us an option to hide the button altogether.

Yay! They did this! 🎉

Maybe I spoke too soon? This is what I'm seeing on Mac Desktop v10.82.2

but I was forced to update my 10.60 something version on my Windows Desktop and now I have Windows Desktop v10.82.2 and am seeing it back on the toolbar there.

So who knows... but I give up.