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@s2sailor Hm, you're right, it's missing there too. You can still do it with ctrl+cmd+k (or via the Format>Styles menu), but it's not in the formatting bar.

I'm guessing it's the non-beta web client (which is using the older editor since the new one broke a while back). Edit: looks like it must be the Mac client, actually

@Allison Jaynes You can get those extra formatting options back in the beta either web client, which you can opt into from the settings page. (the beta is missing a few features itself at the moment, but those should get in eventually). You could also try the checkbox lists (and then check completed items instead of doing strikethrough on bulleted/numbered lists).

@Mel Matsuoka I believe this is controlled by the OS, you can disable it in System Preferences > Keyboard > Text > uncheck "Use smart quotes and dashes"

1 hour ago, DeAnne Holliday said:

Where is the Notebook page?  I am having the same issue.

You can get to it by clicking the notebook icon in the sidebar (the one highlighted in DTLow's image).

@ReBo @qofmiwok They rolled back server-side changes, I'm not aware of any clients getting rolled back.

Just now, Sebastos said:

Please evernote team, can we have a release date ??

You can opt into the beta for it now from the account page.

@billmozer@gmail.com Here's the version TK0047 was recommending:

@laird I don't think there's another way to nicely access the edit/remove controls for links (although the link button at the top is... okay I guess), but here's a Tampermonkey script to hide them:

// ==UserScript==
// @name         Evernote Link Hover Controls Disabler
// @namespace    https://www.evernote.com/
// @version      0.1
// @description  Disable hover-over link controls
// @author       rezecib
// @match        http*://www.evernote.com/*
// @grant        GM_addStyle
// ==/UserScript==

(function() {
    'use strict';

    GM_addStyle(`
        #gwt-debug-FloatingLinkBar-root {
            visibility: hidden !important;
        }
    `);
})();

I feel your pain on this. I don't work on anything client-side, but for what it's worth I gave it an upvote.

For now, cmd+A, cmd+shift+K (or corresponding ctrl commands for Windows edit: ctrl+A, ctrl+R) should strip out all links pretty fast. I know it's not the same, though, especially if there are a couple of links you do want.

Also looks like on Mac client selecting some text and doing cmd+shift+K actually removes all links from the document rather than just the links touching the selection. Bug report time...

@fornix @cynthiayeung Hmm, I would've expected code blocks to be in the app store version. There's an option in the app's preferences for it-- in the app, Evernote > Preferences... > Software Update > Enable code block (at the bottom). Maybe they're saving config in different places and it happened to be disabled in the app store version's config? Edit: Software Update tab doesn't exist in App Store version, which I guess makes sense. I submitted a bug ticket for this and it seems to have caught some attention, yay.

@sgtsunshine I would love to be able to tell you otherwise, but I haven't heard anything since, I think the plan is still to "fix" it by releasing the new web client as soon as it's ready. It's possible that third-party wrappers of the web client like Tusk may still be able to support it (if they are using an older version of a browser embedded), so that's something to look into if you want it back sooner.

So exact phrase searches do work in general (this is part of our integration test suite; but if you do find a case not covered by the explanation below, definitely let me know). However, the case described in the original post has a bit of a wrinkle to it: "stop words".

TL;DR: common words don't get indexed, so you can't search for them

Long explanation:

The way searching works is that when a document is created or updated, it's added to several "inverted indices". Each index maps terms to documents and their position within the document. So there will be an inverted index for "object" and one for "oriented", and a search for "object oriented" will first check these indices, and then remove any documents where "object" and "oriented" aren't in adjacent positions in that order.

However, some terms are really really common, like "the" and "in". If you were to make an inverted index for them, it would contain basically every document-- with 200 million users with lots of notes each, that's a LOT of documents. The standard approach to handling this is to just not index these terms; this is called "stop word filtering". This means that these terms can't be found by the search, even in an exact phrase match; it can't do the first step of finding the documents that contain the stop word. It can, however, do mostly-exact matching on phrases with stop words in the middle, like "money in the bank"; in this case it will still ignore "in the", but it knows that it's looking for an offset of 3 rather than 1 or 2 between "money" and "bank". So it would match "money in the bank" and "money hello world bank", etc.

It would be possible to filter the list of results after they have been returned, in the client, because they actually have access to the note content. So if you want this feature (I can definitely see the use of it), make a feature request for "Filter search results by exact phrase matches in the text, including stop words".

Edit: Ah, meant to include our current stop word list:

"a", "an", "and", "are", "as", "at", "be", "but", "by",
"for", "if", "in", "into", "is", "it",
"no", "not", "of", "on", "or", "such",
"that", "the", "their", "then", "there", "these",
"they", "this", "to", "was", "will", "with"

@nuke It's not just code blocks that broke, but the whole editor. It's running off of an old version of the editor until the new web client. Apparently fixing the editor without the new web client wasn't easy, but I can only speculate as to why.

@AndyDent Not sure-- my JS experience is at the Greasemonkey script level, I'm not really familiar with frameworks available for it (well, I hear about them sometimes, but...). The Common Editor isn't really responsible for sync, though (it's responsible for UI to manipulate ENML), so that would vary more substantially by client.

The old web editor (which was rolled back to for Chrome and is still in Firefox at the moment) is TinyMCE based. Everything else should be using the common editor, which I don't think is based on TinyMCE. But like dconnet, I don't work on that part of the code. A cursory look suggests Electron.

@CalS The Boolean part comes from that pwever wants to join the results of that reminder-based query with the results of tag:ongoing

@Jose Gonzalez Unfortunately no, my understanding is that the focus is on getting the new web client (in which code blocks work) ready for personal accounts. I don't think there's any release time set for that.

9 minutes ago, pwever said:

I guess time parameters are specified-time-or-after

Exactly. reminderTime:year-10 parses to reminderTime:[1206795420 TO *], where 1206795420 is the timestamp for 10 years ago.

As for the general request, it is something I would like to do, but there are no plans to do it right now. 

The main obstacle to getting things like this in is supporting local search, which is implemented independently by each of the clients, so making changes there has a lot of friction. Server-side search we can change pretty easily, but when it comes to changing the grammar itself in substantial ways, it becomes rather dangerous because it will be inconsistent with the local search.

@Javamom2 Which client are you using? On the mac client you can use [command 0] to reset the zoom, or [command +/-] to adjust it. I'd guess there's something analogous in each of the other clients.

Hmm, well it's definitely working in Safari.

Edit: Ah, I see. We had only been able to update it to the version that had code blocks in WebKit-based browsers (Chrome, Safari). Chrome has broken it, so only Safari remains. And the native clients, of course. So Firefox never actually had code blocks.

@JeremyToler @CalS A recent change in Chrome broke part of what supported that, so we had to revert to an earlier version. All other clients (including the new web client that's currently business-only) should still have it, and it should work in Safari.

@jefito That's kind of what I said at the end of this-- that is, that the features ignore each other. But yes you can't make stacks in spaces, but a notebook in a stack can also be in a space.

@Duane That's part of it for sure :). There's a bit more to Spaces, though: pinning, notes at the space level, a cross-notebook list of recent changes.

@DTLow You can't assign a note to a Space exactly, but you can move it into one (that is, a space functions like a notebook that can also contain non-space notebooks; so moving a note into a space moves it out of its previous notebook).

Aside from the web client (and to a lesser degree the mobile clients), Evernote clients are "thick". So they download, maintain, and sync a local copy of all the data; this data also lives in Evernote's Google Cloud servers. The easiest way to get it out of Evernote is to export the notebooks from the client; note that you can do this even without an internet connection, so it should still work if our servers explode.

I'm not on top of where they're stored normally (the best way is just to google it, but it varies by client, because Mac/Windows have different ideas about where such things should be stored), but the way they're stored is not really great for retrieving without the help of the client.

That would be cool. Meanwhile the best workaround I can think of is to export the notebook, write a script to find and replace the reminder dates (the export should be a single XML file), and then reimport.

@JMichaelTX Not exactly a video, but there's a help page that goes over them here. There's also a webinar tomorrow (edit: and another webinar a bit later)

36 minutes ago, jefito said:

Perhaps a tool or command to import a stack into a space would help some users to transition.

That sounds reasonable to me. Doubt it will be there with Business launch, but it makes a lot of sense for when Spaces come to Personal.

36 minutes ago, jefito said:

Will the sections be configurable?

They aren't right now. Don't know if it's planned, but I personally would want it.

36 minutes ago, jefito said:

I envision a space as a container of references to notebooks

That's how we want it to be. It's not there yet.

36 minutes ago, jefito said:

Will there be a section that has sortable lists of notes, as in the normal desktop?

Right now the sections are:

What's New     |     Pinned Notes

---------------------------------

List of contained Notebooks/notes

The list shows (title, updated time, updated user, sharing status). All notebooks show before all notes. Notebooks can be expanded to show the list of notes inside of them.

The list is not sortable in the Mac client right now. I believe sorting by the fields that it currently shows is planned, but it seems that notebooks always show on top no matter how you sort.

I hope it gets some improvement, but I don't know more about what's planned in that area. As it is right now it works when a Space is small, but could become cumbersome if it gets large -- I personally would like parity with the existing note list views and sorting capabilities.

14 minutes ago, CalS said:

Could be spaces provide a way to have a notebook exist in two stack like groupings, each not containing the same notebooks.  Sounds like one could have a stack containing all synced notebooks and then have spaces made up of notebooks to be shared with different folks.

Hmm, looks like this is how it works, yeah. But we want to have spaces alone provide this capability, by allowing a notebook to be in multiple spaces. Currently, though, notebooks only go in one, and you can kind of get a separate organization going with stacks, because the two features ignore each other.