Kolmir

EverNote should thought this trough and publish two versions in the AppStore in parallel: Legacy EverNote Classic New EverNote Light (redesigned) And support both of them, until number 2 will reach decent maturity... It would be the most pleasant/effective for all the users. Don't you think @Nick L.?

You're welcome. I'm getting more and more used to OneNote (I will probably migrate most of my EvN notes there). A like and use Grammarly often too. I'm using those hints to streamline my work with both tools https://getcodeless.com/grammarly-review/grammarly-for-onenote/

1. OK, I respect your opinion - maybe we simply look on two (other) sides of the same coin? Nevertheless, my opinion is still that this is more a recklessness or ignorance than courage. Where is this new value? 2. Yep, I'm with 6.25 and considering to fork my current EvN notes into MS OneNote and Apple Notes 3. More explanation can be found there

Legacy version isn't officially supported anymore. We are paying currently only for access to our data and nothing more. Some would call it a blackmail... New v10 installer should offer side-by-side installation as a first choice. (Knowing the limitations of v10, etc.)

Seriously? DO they think that new platform is now stable, after a lot of bad feedback on forums? There are other ways to stabilize software by for example intense Quality Assurance and Acceptance Test Driven Development... Number of beta users of iOS isn't a limitation. There is a simple workaround. Company can publish in AppStore two apps simultaneously: "EverNote Classic" and "EverNote Light Renewed" or something similar. They are just cheap and unimaginative instead. No courageous enough to admit mistakes.

Or maybe it just means that Ian Small have great public speaking skills - casts a spell... but dirty truths are still hidden behind... 😉 Like all "great" politicians do. Promise millions, but deliver pennies...

Thank you for reporting this. Content is confusing. All about intentions. Nothing about being sorry about poor communication with (power) users and low quality standards. Nothing about honoring long-time advanced users. Nothing about the specific ways and means they want to use to get better. I can understand that it's hard to plan, but at least they should have some alternative strategies and coherent product vision plus high-level Product Road-map and Release Road-map. If they plan to rebuild all in 12 months, the preview/beta stages should take a way longer. Preview should take next 7 months and beta another 5... Keeping in the same time fully supported "legacy version". Unfortunately, it looks like living in a isolated "perfect world of the CEO bubble"... He speaks as a politician...

1. EverNote management disrespected us first by don't listening to feedback and providing unbaked versions. 2. They probably quietly and unofficially support migration of advanced users. It looks like EvN blesses users who are meek and don't complain: for they shall inherit the EvN v. 10. 😉

See this https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052560314

More can be added to the list Nevertheless, missing features aren't the only problem. Other probably more concerning things are: total lack of a proper communication about the road-map and very poor quality of apps. They provided a buggy version as GA which in reality should be only a preview version, not even a beta. It's like offering you new version of Netflix app, but this time without HD/UHD option, with 10x less movies/tv-series, but with a dark-mode... A version which resets movies during watching to the beginning every 15 minutes or freezes and not keep the list of recent episodes...

Yep, I don't have any problems with paying for a solid hard/smart work. However, currently I have a feeling, that I'm paying mostly for hideous incompetence and outrageous lack of reverence for (advanced) customers...

You can try for example alternatives like: https://nimbusweb.me https://standardnotes.org https://www.onenote.com/import-evernote-to-onenote Current approach of EvN may be simply a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_(project_management)

Could you please describe shortly which ways/tools you used to dump you EvN catalog into other apps? Currently, I'm only aware of an automatic import tool for OneNote. On Nimbus web site only manual export/import is described.

We are seeing currently on Evn side following things: no integrity, lack of proper management, and poor engineering standards. No communication. No proper Quality Assurance. Therefore, I afraid, that their 2-years foundation may be pretty weak and unstable. Building on that may be just as bad as building a house on swamps/quicksand... EvN may be simply a sinking ship. An example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_march_(project_management)

I'm currently testing OneNote (full v.) -> Editor and sync works better than fine on all my platforms, only maybe some small UX complaints on mobile. There are scan tools and Web-Clipper from MS. I can also protect selected content https://www.groovypost.com/howto/password-encrypt-microsoft-onenote-notebook-section/ Next week I plan to try migration https://www.onenote.com/import-evernote-to-onenote However, maybe we can do more, for example like all users of EvN will stop paying subscription at once or contact investors or maybe consider class action lawsuit? I'm not a lawyer, but maybe there is a proper way out? Or EvN just gone crazy... and we should abandon the ship ASAP? As long as we can migrate local notes...

Unhappy user can vote up this idea 😉

Probably poor/immature management at all levels. There is a great book, which explains why such things happen https://books.google.pl/books/about/Death_March.html?id=FdAZUX9H_gAC&redir_esc=y

1. Legacy version is currently outdated and provided without support. There will be no more fixes, etc. It's not a proper approach. 2. @DTLow do you like to pay your hard-earned money for poor functionality or lack of respect? Or EvN just pays you for positive PR? 😉

Hi, up to now we paid money for plus/premium/business subscription to get access to full functionality and mature version i.e. free from critical/major bugs. The current version has been stripped down from about 80% of advanced functionality - users' feedback about this has been ignored. Moreover, as seen on this and iOS forum there is a lot of critical bugs related to stability, sync., etc. Therefore, I suggest that all versions of Evernote apps/services should be free for all until they will reach some considerable level of maturity. Current paid users should get at least a partial refund.

Yep, exactly. I recently started to use MS One-Note and I'm pretty happy with it.

1. Management may think, that they are Steve Jobs, and they may know what's better for us. 🤣 However, in reality they are much, much closer to Steve Ballmer 😜 2. Now you pay twice - one for the subscription, second time as an "unofficial tester": with your time, efforts, and frustration about bugs, which should be found & fixed in the proper software development process (Quality Assurance, ATDD / TDD, etc.)...

My version has been recently updated to v. 6.17 - looks like Evernote team finally fixed our problem. Links are working properly for now.

Which version are you using? I remember, a had this problem with v. 6.13/14. Currently, in mine v. 6.16.1 (FF) EvN Web-editor shows creation date properly.

Hi, have you tried to use different browser to enjoy versions 6 and above? Versions 6.xx were for a long time only available for Chrome... Or have you signed for the Beta program? Or just check in Settings - maybe there is an option to use newer ones waiting for you..? Yep, I have already contacted Support for this. I agree - they are testing new ideas - it's a good thing, but if there is no more a Beta label/mark, such ideas should work properly.

Are you sure about the beta status? It looks like that any labels, which mentions "preview" or "beta" were removed from the interface with v. 6.14 (or even 6.13). I can't find any beta mark at the current moment. Moreover, I can't even find the Feedback button...