AlbertR

Yep - It's a bug for me... Space between text sections is OK (hasn't been enough in former versions) - but without {Shift-Enter} it's impossible to continue text on a next line (without additional space) within a text section.

Moreover I would like to get a possibility to show invisible text controlling characters like in other text editing programs

•    for section separators          {Enter}
•    to show a simple newline    {Shift-Enter}
•    stand for a tabulator            {Tab}
•    marks spaces                        {Space}

10 hours ago, EricLorenz said:

This is a BEAUTIFUL thing

Yep - see below how I'll use it...

10 hours ago, EricLorenz said:

they finally brought back a feature that was a big deal in Legacy

Oups - how did you achieve it in Legacy (where we had not anchored links...)?

Here's my use case:

• In longer lasting activity notes I start every new event (phone call, discussion, ...) with a short headline (always on top of the note)

• Before EN10 these headlines where simply bolded text - now I'll convert them to small headlines (H3), which enables me to collapse all text below. This would save some space and would act like a TOC:

• Since the real TOCs came up, I do not collapse the section but go to top of the note and insert a TOC with the /-command and change the numbered list to a bulleted one:

• This again saves (much) space on my screen and shows the complete story most often on one page. Clicking on a line moves me directly to the desired subsection...

But beside all joy with this new feature, I have some wishes for the future:

• TOC lines should use text decoration from headlines (bold, italic, underline, colour)
• URL format should be configurable (no underlining, no fix colour, ...)
• TOCs should be dynamic with automatic updates...
  • if headlines' text changes
  • if headlines are added
  • if headlines (with sections below) are moved
  • if headlines are deleted

I know that this can't be done with the current implementation because the /-command simply generates a "TOC" by inserting approriate anchored links to the current editing position. I wonder why EN used this poor methodology - seeing that other editing systems (incl. competitive apps) use special TOC-blocks with configurable properties:

• A TOC block is a placeholder that might be moved around the note (or even to other notes)
• Because it is known as a TOC, the system is able to change it's content on request (i.e. if headlines change)
• Within a single TOC block, it might be possible to attach special display properties this this block instead of using global TOC settins (font, list type, coloures, ...)

Too bad... (or @Federico Simionato - is there a chance to get it later?)

18 hours ago, agsteele said:

I believe that code blocks are getting some attention.

Your believe never failed 😉👍

20 hours ago, eric99 said:

Can you multiselect files and drag these to your desktop?

Not even by selecting one file 😞 - but it's a good idea 😉

For the moment, we don't know an URL to achieve this (but it's a good idea 😉)

You may use your eMail client to create new notes without starting EN itself:

• Take your EN import eMail address from account settings (Kontoinformationen... -> Kontoübersicht -> Notizen per E-Mail senden an)
• Use your eMail client to create an eMail to this address
  • Subject line becomes the title of the new note
  • Body will be text of new note
  • Send the eMail - some seconds later you'll find a new note in EN
• See Save emails into Evernote – Evernote Help & Learning for more information (i.e. adding tokes to define Reminder, Notebook and Tags)

2 hours ago, MvdH said:

How long does it normally/for you, my fellow users, take to start Evernote 10.85.4 with the Files functionality?

app. 1 second with 20625 files

3 hours ago, bmcl26 said:

I can find any File I need in a Note with a normal search.

Yep - but Files ist faster - and will be limited to attachments 😉.
Regarding deleted attachments: If they reside in Files even after Trash is cleaned: Might be either a caching problem or is simply a bug for the moment...

21 minutes ago, bmcl26 said:

Basically, this is as much used as a chocolate teapot.

??? If it will be implemented completely (see above), it will get a very usefull tool to search for things around and inside attached files. I'm often sure that something is inside an attachment.

If the Files search will be able to scan text in images and sound files - bingo! Until now there's no search keyword to find text only inside attached files...

9 hours ago, s2sailor said:

It says I can't preview it, ok, but then it wants me to download it.

Yep - preview works only for images and PDF. Other files (.XLSx, .DOCx and all others) throw only a message to open or download it 😞.

Search does not search within the files. 😞 If you are looking for a specific word within an Excel oder Word document, the normal search (within notes) will lead to the file - but not the search within Files 😤

But all-in-all the Feature itself is a very good idea

9 hours ago, FredJ said:

In legacy, I could pin specific tags to the desktop but I'm not sure how to do that now.

??? If you placed a tag (by Drag&Drop) on the desktop, EN-Legacy placed an ENEX-export. Don't know why because it would be a better choice to habe only something like an URL that causes EN to show what's requested in a search phrase embedded in the URL's address 😉. But this functionality (storing and re-executing search phrases) was and is given by defined Favorite in EN10...

10 hours ago, FredJ said:

I would like to put 'certain ones' at the top even though not alphabetically in that order, and I don't want to rename them as they've been that way for many years

You may place the tags in Favorites and sort Favorites by your own. Even if you rename tags, the order within the Favorites will not change.

On 4/15/2024 at 5:38 PM, AlbertR said:

Coming from outside should always open a new window

added to 058 - Suggestions for TOC, anchored links and collapsed sections handling

21 hours ago, eric99 said:

The table of contents links don't work in the exported html ... and pdf

added to 058 - Suggestions for TOC, anchored links and collapsed sections handling

20 hours ago, Mike P said:

Also the TOC items are not dynamic,

... added to 058 - Suggestions for TOC, anchored links and collapsed sections handling

2 hours ago, Mike P said:

The main problem I have found with it so far is that it will not open sub-headings

... added to 058 - Suggestions for TOC, anchored links and collapsed sections handling

• Anchored link should display headline text automatically (including color)
  • If you create and paste an anchored link, it shows the title of the note
    • This might be OK if you paste link to an other note
  • But normal case will be to paste the link inside the current to allow a reader to jump around note sections
  • If an headline text changes, text of anchored links should change also (automatically)
  • Within notes an anchored link text should be displayed in the same color of the headline it points to
     
• If the destination of an achored link is collapsed, the section should be un-collapsed automatically
  • For the moment the user has no glue what's happening because the cursor is lost ☹ 

• If note is displayed in a separate window, clicking on an anchored link displays the note in EN's main window
  • Annoying - a user surely does not want to leave the current window 😤 

• Jumping to an anchored link from outside EN should open a new note window
  • This was possible in former EN versions and should be implemented in EN10 also to avoid disturbing the current EN display
     
• There are no keystrokes available to collapse and uncollapse sections
  • Writers would like to use their keyboard without mouse as long as possible
  • For the moment you can collapse and uncollapse sections only by clicking [>] and [v] icons with the mouse...
  • I'd like to get Alt-Right-Arrow and Alt-Left-Arrow to uncollapse and collapse a section below a headline or list item
    • Some would like to use Shift-Right-Arrow or Shift-Left-Arrow like Windows Explorer uses to open/close subfolder - but these keystrokes are used to select text within note editing windows. This behaviour should not be changed.
    • Ctrl-Right-Arrow and Ctrl-Left Arrow are also not a good choice because they're used to move the cursor to the next or previous word.
       
• /-Command to insert a TOC should create TOCs only from current position to end of the note
  • Often a document (note) starts with a headline like "Content" just at the beginning - followed by the table itself.
  • For the moment all inserted TOC start with "Content" as a first line - can be removed easily but might be  inhibited by EN itself😉
     
• Internal links should be displayed in green color
  • ... as it was the case until anytime within the last patches😉
  • Anchored links (as base of the TsOC) are used for navigation inside EN which should be clearly separated from links to outside
     
• Anchored links (and TsOC) should work in publicly shared note view, HTML and PDF exports also
  • If you click on an internal link within a share note (like https://tinyurl.com/missing-in-EN10), an EN account will be opened instead of simply jumping around inside the web page.
  • At least with HTML and PDF exports, the problem might be easy to solve: EN has to change internal link addresses to point relative to the document (do not use evernote:///... syntax in address)
  • In case of publicly shared note views, solution is the same - but conversion has to take place with every download of the page from server because the note view should show the actual state of a note...
     
• ... (will be extended as more ideas come up...)

17 minutes ago, Mike P said:

It's important to be able to easily go back to your TOC

Tried to add a line "<back to Content>" at end of each section to be able to jump back to the TOC...

• add a H1 "Content" to the top of the note
• copy anchor link to clipboard by clicking on icon right of the headline
• paste this link to new line at end of a section
  • unfortunately the title of the note is used as link text - should be "Content"
  • change link text to "<back to Content>"
• copy this line to each end of a section
• go <back to Content>
• insert TOC with /-command just after H1 "Content"
• delete first line of TOC (because it points needless to "Content" 😉)

Works great 👍:

5 hours ago, ElectricSuper said:

I need a report (preferably in csv format) which includes the fields: title, location (notebook), created date, updated date, author and tags.

That's not possible within EN and|or by reading its local data.
But you may use foreign tools like Make (formerly called "Integromat"). Most of them allow to specifiy EN search phrases to collect notes and process them according to rules you have to specify.

I've created a small example
to search for notes in a notebook "EN-1-Issues" that carry a tag called ">8-waiting". The list is sorted descending by CreationDate and formatted to a HTML-table with each row representing a note and showing its Creation-, Updated-, ReminderDate, Title (as a clickable link) and the list of currently assigned tags. At the this is eMailed to me... Here's the result:
Unfortunately, tools like this are often restricted in some areas (#API-Calls/time, #returnedNotes, specific field values...) because of EN limitations. In case of Make, you cannot read the Author-property of a note or set a ReminderDone date 😞. If you'll find an other tool that covers your specific needs, please let us know about.

4 minutes ago, SpacecoastWalt said:

I could not get this to single space

Seems you have splitted the lines by a <RETURN> which makes every line a seperate section of text.
If you type <SHIFT><RETURN> at the end of a line, the section is not broken so that the lines will be shown with lesser space.

This is by intend in many text formatting programs - but should be configurable (which is not so far in EN ...) 😉

19 minutes ago, agsteele said:

Some refinement to come I anticipate.

• Coming from outside should always open a new window
• Text editing cursor should be placed in front of the anchored headline
  • and/or note window should be scrolled to place the anchored headline at the top edge
• Pasting a link to an anchor should display the headline text as URL text (not the note title)
  • for the moment it is very hard to create a local TOC on top of a note because all links carry the same stupid note title 😉
• Finally (so far): anchored links should be "life" at the end
  • ... and display a headline text even if that is changed - like we like from Title-styled internal links to notes.

2 hours ago, Mike P said:

Both the title and preview styles are dynamically linked to the target note. You change the name of the link by changing the title of the target note. I think this is the intended behaviour and should not be changed.

Oups - my fail - You're right 🙂

2 hours ago, Mike P said:

I would prefer all links to behave the same and faithfully represent the name of the target document.

Yep - that the reason for me to use Title-style most often for the moment.

If Text-links would behave in this way (to show the name of the target - and in future the name of the title within the note), I would go back to Text-links because they're inline with my text and do not need that ugly gray box on a new line...

1 hour ago, Mike P said:

The shortcut to open in a new window is shift + double click. To make it consistent with the behaviour of a text link I think it should be ctrl + double click.

THX - or simply Ctrl-Click in all cases 🙏

29 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

Here's an example of the link: evernote:///view/########/<note-GUID>#<anchor-GUID>/<notebook-GUID>

Great 👍- didn't see the #-sign so far - but indeed even my EN10.84.3 creates it!

32 minutes ago, Dave-in-Decatur said:

It is not yet functional from outside Evernote

Huh - it works here: I copied such an address to an Excel cell, made it a real hyperlink, clicked on it and was transferred to EN-note-headline, from which I copied the link 👏

• OK: With EN10 it is possible to display internal links as Text, Title or Preview
  • <I preferre Titles in the meanwhile ;-)>
• OK: When displayed as Text, it's possible to
  • Modify link address (i.e. after Right-Mouse-Click)
  • Open link in a new window (i.e. by Ctrl-Click)
• Fail: When displayed as Title or Preview you cannot do this
  • Neither after clicking on "..."
  • nor with Right-Mouse-Click on the link...

• Offer complete and same functionality in all cases
• Note (updated): To change the text of a Title- or Preview-link you have to change the title of the note they're pointing to
  • this is OK and by intend of these automaticalls updated links

• To change a link address
  • change it to Text mode
    • ... which is a poor workaround because it needs to change the note text
• To open a link in a new window
  • Open link in main window, then click on "..." in upper right corner to re-open it in a new window
    • ... which is a really bad workaround because it replaces the current note in the current note window

• Ticket #3871813

So they should not call it "AI" 😞. EN's "AI" seems to be only a marketing buzzword.

36 minutes ago, Jon/t said:

Anything sent to the Ai model is not used to train it.

Intelligence is based on training. How should it get better if not by learning about my habits?

I know it's very hard to implement a learning strategy that's valid only for the user who's asking for. Such a machine should take public knowledge and merge it with my strategy to tag, name and fill notes. This is what I expect to be done before answering to me. 

14 minutes ago, PinkElephant said:

Which won’t help much if there is no new information - it will be closed again. Just a waste of time, for yourself and support.

OK, ticketing system has been improved (better formatting possibilites, overview, ...).

• But it would be fine to get an information (by eMail) with a short reason if it is closed.

And "tickets can be reopened" is not true - you've only a chance to open a new (follow-up ) ticket. This makes it hard to track down longer discussions (I've topic that has been solved after 12 months with 4 ticket numbers... 😉

9 hours ago, gazumped said:

Federico says "soon".  That now seems to mean sometime in the nest few weeks...

Yep - he's credible in this area. But my "do we can assume that all this will be implemented soon?" was meant as "... all this ..." (complete URL with #anchor to title to paste in foreign apps...) 😉